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Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.02 03:05:00 - [31] Bumptybump, they still haven't read it. !!!revo lla ti puah zld FFUTSRU tuaw op I
Slave 775 Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.02 04:17:00 - [32] You get my support on this one. Centuries ago, the Bible warned of dangers posed by evil men described as ômaster[s] at evil ideasö and ôscheming to do bad.ö (Proverbs 24:8) PRIVATEERS Officialy nerfed by CCP 05/07
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.01.02 16:02:00 - [33] Originally by: Iwant Urstuff Bumptybump, they still haven't read it. Can't take a hint? =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com ===============
Drik Drevani	Posted - 2009.01.03 05:26:00 - [34] Oppose. Current limit is plenty.
Telor Ashrin	Posted - 2009.01.04 03:58:00 - [35] Originally by: Dave Tehsulei The whole war dec system needs reworking Why is there a limit at all? We already are punished enough with the stupid war fee system, pvp is supposed to be an integral part of the game and yet if you want to start a war you are limited by your wallet balance and the 3 war mechanic. War voting is out dated and cumbersome get rid of it, starting wars should be completely separate to corporate votes. Doesn't 0.0 take care of this? Of course, I may be wrong since I am new.
Haakelen Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.04 04:29:00 - [36] Originally by: Telor Ashrin Originally by: Dave Tehsulei The whole war dec system needs reworking Why is there a limit at all? We already are punished enough with the stupid war fee system, pvp is supposed to be an integral part of the game and yet if you want to start a war you are limited by your wallet balance and the 3 war mechanic. War voting is out dated and cumbersome get rid of it, starting wars should be completely separate to corporate votes. Doesn't 0.0 take care of this? Of course, I may be wrong since I am new. PvP happens everywhere in Eve.
thesonarnet Gallente 0ccam's Razor UNLeashed Legion	Posted - 2009.01.04 10:30:00 - [37] against it Why? because war deccing Carebears is super carebearish! We have more Regions in this game where you can fight everyone even without a war dec and a sec hit than we have empire regions. So don't be such carebears and move your butts to the real action.
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.04 16:56:00 - [38] Edited by: Iwant Urstuff on 04/01/2009 16:56:39 Originally by: thesonarnet against it Why? because war deccing Carebears is super carebearish! We have more Regions in this game where you can fight everyone even without a war dec and a sec hit than we have empire regions. So don't be such carebears and move your butts to the real action. Noobz r not our targetz of choice. There are other targetz in Hi Sec than noobz. Anyways thanks for the bump!!!! !!!revo lla ti puah zld FFUTSRU tuaw op I
irion felpamy Minmatar HellJumpers Corp United For 0rder	Posted - 2009.01.04 18:03:00 - [39] If you are at war with 3 corps and have spare capacity you should be decing more worthwile targets not more targets.
Gimme Urmods	Posted - 2009.01.04 18:21:00 - [40] SUPPORTED

Iwant Urmods	Posted - 2009.01.04 18:24:00 - [41] Would like to see this doubled
No Beard The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre	Posted - 2009.01.04 19:27:00 - [42]
Yarrmageddon Gallente Aeon Of Strife R.U.R.	Posted - 2009.01.04 20:26:00 - [43] supported
Murlas Ysarn	Posted - 2009.01.06 11:17:00 - [44] Not supported. If you just want to PvP move to low-sec or 0.0, that is why it is there.
Suitonia interimo	Posted - 2009.01.06 12:27:00 - [45] The current limit isn't too bad I think, although it would be great if they raised it to 5 or something like that.
Jaina Proudmoar Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.06 21:01:00 - [46] We really need no limit to war dec number and the fees removed.
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.10 20:15:00 - [47] To those of you Dogz of War who continue to support this topic many thankz!!! Please take the time to add a thumbz up to your post, this makes it eazier for the CSM to evaluate support. Again thankz to all thoze who have viewed this topic, thoze who have posted in support, and thoze who have voiced the oppozition view (I don't agree with those oppozing but it'z great to see pilotz taking this issue seriously). !!!revo lla ti puah zld FFUTSRU tuaw op I
jokerb Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.01.12 07:17:00 - [48] 12 at least.. 3 pfft lame...
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.12 13:25:00 - [49] Well I guess the CSM wants to lower the War Dec Limit to ONE or prolly none. Only the negative 10 gank squadz will get pvp in hi sec. Sim Eve from 0.5-1.0 sec. Leastways that is what LaVista Vista told me, he said how about one war dec. I didn't even get to say anything other than Greetingz and I opened a topic in Assembly Hall and thiz guy who ran about how talk to me in game vote for me and all that said he would vote no, I mean how do you present your position if the representativez of the community won't even listen to you. Well at least I know he read this. Guess I will go lower my sec rating and start blowing up noobz like all the other frustrated pvpers. !!!revo lla ti puah zld FFUTSRU tuaw op I
LaVista Vista	Posted - 2009.01.12 13:46:00 - [50] Originally by: Iwant Urstuff Well I guess the CSM wants to lower the War Dec Limit to ONE or prolly none. Only the negative 10 gank squadz will get pvp in hi sec. Sim Eve from 0.5-1.0 sec. Leastways that is what LaVista Vista told me, he said how about one war dec. I didn't even get to say anything other than Greetingz and I opened a topic in Assembly Hall and thiz guy who ran about how talk to me in game vote for me and all that said he would vote no, I mean how do you present your position if the representativez of the community won't even listen to you. Well at least I know he read this. Guess I will go lower my sec rating and start blowing up noobz like all the other frustrated pvpers. Talk about totally taking what I said too literally. You convoed me. I'm heading out for Iceland tomorrow for a whole week. So as I told you, I was rather busy. Having to catch up for 7 days worth of everyday doing in just 2 days is hard. Having to go to Iceland isn't holiday at all, which people seem to think. I did say that if anybody raised this, I would vote no. I argued that the current system is a pay-to-grief system and it should be TOTALLY overhauled before any change is made to said limit. I suggested dropping the limit to 1 in order to prove that 3 is a sweet-spot. I can see why one would want to increase the limit. But it's a selfish reason in my eyes. Sure, having more targets to shoot at is nice and all. But it doesn't serve any more than that, giving more targets to high-sec griefers.

Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.12 13:56:00 - [51] I got to say I started a topic and you said you would vote no. Your my elected representative. I didn't even get to say one word about my position and you proposed cutting the limit by 1/3. Your supposed to listen to us and take our views to CCP. The system is clunky and it really suckz. I'm wondering why I even voted in that election. The Negative 10 gank squadz don't even give any warning just BANG your in a pod then Bang your in a clone. Our corp triez to practice PRIVATEERING going after high value targetz who should defend their assetz. !!!revo lla ti puah zld FFUTSRU tuaw op I
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.12 14:00:00 - [52] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Iwant Urstuff Well I guess the CSM wants to lower the War Dec Limit to ONE or prolly none. Only the negative 10 gank squadz will get pvp in hi sec. Sim Eve from 0.5-1.0 sec. Leastways that is what LaVista Vista told me, he said how about one war dec. I didn't even get to say anything other than Greetingz and I opened a topic in Assembly Hall and thiz guy who ran about how talk to me in game vote for me and all that said he would vote no, I mean how do you present your position if the representativez of the community won't even listen to you. Well at least I know he read this. Guess I will go lower my sec rating and start blowing up noobz like all the other frustrated pvpers. Talk about totally taking what I said too literally. You convoed me. I'm heading out for Iceland tomorrow for a whole week. So as I told you, I was rather busy. Having to catch up for 7 days worth of everyday doing in just 2 days is hard. Having to go to Iceland isn't holiday at all, which people seem to think. I did say that if anybody raised this, I would vote no. I argued that the current system is a pay-to-grief system and it should be TOTALLY overhauled before any change is made to said limit. I suggested dropping the limit to 1 in order to prove that 3 is a sweet-spot. I can see why one would want to increase the limit. But it's a selfish reason in my eyes. Sure, having more targets to shoot at is nice and all. But it doesn't serve any more than that, giving more targets to high-sec griefers. Can I take ur stuffz while ur gone?
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.01.12 14:06:00 - [53] Support: The limit of 3 is overly restrictive - corporations and alliances should be able to declare war as they see fit as long as they can pay the escalating cost. A new limit of 6 would probably be a fair compromise.
low26 Project Nemesis	Posted - 2009.01.12 14:32:00 - [54] It SHOULD all be risk vs reward I could agree with CCP making a few totally safe systems but you pay a price for that safety. For example, only veldspar rocks the size of pea's spawn there, fly nothing bigger than a cruiser there, and get no better than level 2 missions but, you will be totally safe. Then carebears will have a totally safe place if they truly wish that and they can go there if they don't want to participate in a pvp in a pvp based game but the rewards are much smaller. All this crap "go to low sec" "go to 0.0" Been there done that I don't like blob warfare and POS'S. And who the heck are you to tell me how to play the game when I use a legal game mechanics to play, quit being lazy and learn game mechanics. Quit trying to have reward with no risk. We need to avoid this game becoming another mindless money grind MMORPG like so many others
LaVista Vista	Posted - 2009.01.12 15:14:00 - [55] Originally by: Jade Constantine Support: The limit of 3 is overly restrictive - corporations and alliances should be able to declare war as they see fit as long as they can pay the escalating cost. A new limit of 6 would probably be a fair compromise. Alliances can have as many war-decs as they want as far as I'm aware. The point being that there needs to be a certain barrier to entry for grand-scale war-dec. If you are so serious about war-deccing, then you create an alliance. It's 1 billion, that's a small fee to pay for griefing with no limits. Sure, it does get slightly more expensive. However I think that's entirely fair. This whole thing only affects small corporations who targets a large amount of other corps. It doesn't affect anybody else. Thus, you can deduce that the mechanic is working entirely as intended.
Esmenet	Posted - 2009.01.12 15:28:00 - [56]
SencneS Amarr Rebellion Against big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2009.01.12 16:45:00 - [57] Edited by: SencneS on 12/01/2009 16:48:02 I'll never support this for one reason. You're using Wardec as a griefing tool rather then what it's function is designed to be. War Declaration should be used for when one or two corporations have forced you into a situation where War is the only option. Not as a "Yeah, we're a solid PVP Corp so we'll war dec weak corporations for the soul perpous of grabbing their stuff and making their game experience miserable." While I support Pirate like activity. Low-sec hunting, can flipping, ninja salvage, hell even suicide ganking is OK but I think it's punishment is not as much as it should be. I do not support out right griefing.. No one should be able to dictate to anyone else how they should play the game. If a player wants to sit in a belt mining, or run missions, or transport courrier contracts, they can. However, no one else should be able force another game style on to anyone. If War Declaration had actual arbitration it would be much better but that will never happen. So the only way to prevent PVP Corps from forcing their game style onto others is by limitations.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.01.12 18:43:00 - [58] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 12/01/2009 18:43:30 mispost.
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.01.12 22:00:00 - [59] I'm supporting this. I know I have far more than just 3 enemies I'd like to go to war with as a corp. Particularly for FW, where vigilantes are all over the place...
Iwant Urstuff Amarr Iwant Urstuff Corp	Posted - 2009.01.14 11:54:00 - [60] Typical of the big boyz wanting to have all the funz, alliancez can war dec all they wantz but the little guyz get hamstung. LaVista support is growing.



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