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Angel Lightbringer
Caldari
Dark Evolution Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.18 17:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Phantom Slave
Generally there's a Revision number printed on the motherboard. The Rev is generally the BIOS revision, so you can check online to see if there's any new revision's online.
Hmm, revisions are usually PCB board versions, with added/removed connectors etc.. My pick was about BIOS version, which can be flashed if the version is too low, giving added memory size/CPU support etc...
I can't deny that some board makers do print the BIOS version in the board itself, although I never saw it, but it's really pointless as the version changes many times in it's lifetime even before leaving factory.
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Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 18:38:00 -
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Hmm, well every motherboard I've ever purchased has had the BIOS revision printed on the board. It's not pointless, as it lets you know exactly what BIOS revision you have even if you can't get your system to boot.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.18 19:03:00 -
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Why are we talking about BIOs? The computer hasn't even powered on yet. Can't even think about getting to the BIOs screen if there is no power.
For the record though, this motherboard and processor came as a bundle package from newegg and included the official driver CD. If anything, i'd be sure that the BIOs would be supported... unless newegg scams people, which they would have serious problems comming from me if they did. And so far, newegg has not scammed me.
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Angel Lightbringer
Caldari
Dark Evolution Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.18 19:07:00 -
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@ Phantom: Hmm.. might too long since I laid my hands on brand new stuff.. I am a relique of the past 
Might have a shock when I ditch my 1900+ for a Phenom, or Montreal.. damn!  
Good luck to Izen anyway, that's what truely matters here.
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Angel Lightbringer
Caldari
Dark Evolution Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.18 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Izen Cracker
Why are we talking about BIOs? The computer hasn't even powered on yet. Can't even think about getting to the BIOs screen if there is no power.
Izen, the BIOS has to support the hardware before you get to see the name on the monitor. For some critical pieces, it could refuse to power up while beeping. it was asked before if the speaker was pluged in and if you have any POS beeps when powering (you WILL have some if you have no memory nor CPU).
As previously mentioned in the thread, which I sadly didn't notice before because I would not even have replied as it was previously covered given the fact that it should at least power up, even slower, to let you use it if it's just a matter of speed, it might not be a BIOS revision problem at all.
Originally by: Izen Cracker
For the record though, this motherboard and processor came as a bundle package from newegg and included the official driver CD. If anything, i'd be sure that the BIOs would be supported... unless newegg scams people, which they would have serious problems comming from me if they did. And so far, newegg has not scammed me.
As for packaging, because the guys at newegg made a bundle doesn't rule out the fact that a couple of mobo could have an older BIOS revision and the didn't notice it.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.19 00:52:00 -
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*several hours later*
Got good news:
The PSU came in mail and pc turned on and stuff. Here's probably where I messed up:
"makeshift patches to try and prevent the mobo from touching the back case."
When I reopened the PC I wanted to be sure everything was gonna turn on this time so I did a further mobo inspection. I learned that the tape was not doing what I wanted it to and the mobo was see-sawiing on an erected part of the case back. Fail. So when I finally looked in a conspicuous looking box that I overlooked in the case package, I found standoffs to mount the mobo on...
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but there's BAD NEWS!!!
First, after 15 minutes of dealing with chassis intrusion failure, I tried to load up windows so I could run the driver CD. I got blue screened so I decided to run safe mode.
Next, Windows booted up, but the USB mouse and keyboard were disabled for some reason after windows started! Fail. I had to get one of those older keyboards with the purple input.
Then, I managed to get inside the OS and try to boot up the disk, but then the disk claimed it could not load any of it's functions.
Last, I tried to boot safe mode with network support , but then windows tells me I have to activate windows before I can log in... fail.
So, i had to place the main HD and display card back in this old setup to try and research what went wrong.
does anyone know what went wrong? Could it be that I have to uninstall THESE mobo drivers first somehow?
Thx for your support so far. Once I learn how this process goes I can do it again in the future with no problem.
Then its back to EVE (hopefully)
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Atomos Darksun
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.19 00:58:00 -
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Please don't tell me you just plugged your hard drive with all the wrong drivers from one computer into another...
Boot from disc and install windows. Always.
Originally by: Amoxin
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CONVERT TO LINKIFICATION!
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.12.19 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 19/12/2008 01:29:46
Are you telling us... you were so worried about short-circuiting the mobo that you used some macgyver tape mod to prevent that while at the same time forgetting to install the spacer screw thingies?
edit: and its BIOS not BIOs 
edit2: and yes, it's probably easiest and safest to backup the data you want to keep, be it on dvd or on a second partition of the hd youre using or whatever, actually.
then format the system partition and install windows over that.
Should be fastest, too. It's definetly less fuss.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.19 01:26:00 -
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install windows? Hold on.... you're kidding right? I thought it was possible to swap the board without installing windows again.
Yes, I did plug my HDD in, but it was only to install the drivers for the mobo, I couldn't do them on this mobo, because hell knows what would happen if I did.
I'm trying to install the mobo drivers to the HDD. Somehow my friend managed to do it without reinstalling windows.
(the other problem is that the great dell did not supply me with a windows CD)
And bear in mind this is my first time building a pc, we all have to learn somehow, so take it easy on me here. The good news is that I didn't break anything, and IMO that's probably the most important outcome of this day yet.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.12.19 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 19/12/2008 01:29:17
Originally by: Izen Cracker
And bear in mind this is my first time building a pc, we all have to learn somehow, so take it easy on me here.
Hey, no one is getting mean or anything, we're just checking.
But yeah, as we said, reinstall windows.
It can be possible to do it without... but it can be a real PITA. And I figure it can be impossible, too.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.19 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Izen Cracker on 19/12/2008 01:30:02
Funny isn't it? They just didn't come to mind till I found the box they were stored in. I'd say if there was some way to put a twist on it, you could submit this to the fail blog.
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Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.19 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Phantom Slave on 19/12/2008 01:33:08
Edited by: Phantom Slave on 19/12/2008 01:32:41
Don't feel bad Izen, I've done it before, just glad you finally followed my advice!
You can NEVER use a hard drive from a different computer without formatting and reinstalling your OS. What you need to do now is take out the HD and backup all your important data if you can. Then boot to your Windows CD/DVD and install. Format your drive, then reinstall. It HAS to happen or else you're going to be using the completely wrong configuration for your system and have issues like you're having now.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.12.19 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Phantom Slave
You can NEVER use a hard drive from a different computer without formatting and reinstalling your OS.
Hey, it worked for me, before. It didnt work well or reliable, but good enough to get on the desktop and do some basic stuffz. I wouldnt do it again, if I could avoid it, tho ..
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Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.19 01:33:00 -
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Call DELL and tell them you need a copy of your Windows XP license. $15 or so for it, ask them if they can ship it quick as your system is mission critical (it's not lying! EVE is very very important!).
I edited my previous post but you're just too quick for me Izen! So here it is.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.19 01:35:00 -
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Might even be better just to take my other HDD and make a new partition... but I left the windows CD at the dorm...
We have windows disks here, but the version my serial key comes from is xp media center edition so it looks like i'm stuck.
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