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Nydia Carver
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:18:00 -
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PLEX price already over 515 million in Jita and rising.  |
Skye Aurorae
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:21:00 -
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It was even up at 547mill, I sold a few and repurchased at 522 when it dropped.
Skye Aurora is a 7 year old Girl Who Wants to be on the CSM!
Unfortunately, the Lawyers say you have to be 21, so..
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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:23:00 -
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I would really love it if CCP STOPPED using PLEX for stuff other than gametime. Ffs.... |
Aina Sasaki
Red Core
Paradigm Shift Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:29:00 -
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Dirk Decibel wrote:I would really love it if CCP STOPPED using PLEX for stuff other than gametime. Ffs....
Me too. I just want my damned game time! x_x
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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:42:00 -
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Of course in this case it's 'just' about half a day of Jita trading volume since the offer is limited to 100 cards. Quite a bad conversion rate too though. If you buy your plex for 15 bucks that leaves you with 300 bucks a card. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
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Posted - 2012.04.11 19:10:00 -
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Dirk Decibel wrote:Quite a bad conversion rate too though. If you buy your plex for 15 bucks that leaves you with 300 bucks a card.
It wouldn't be a particularly smart idea to buy PLEX with RL money in order to get a graphics card, but that's not what CCP intends for you to do.
This offer appeals to people like me, who think of 20 PLEX / 10b isk as the product of a day's gameplay.
If they don't sell out in the first 5 minutes, I'll have a new graphics card for my 2nd PC and another for my 'missus to upgrade hers. |
Lecherito
Swag Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.04.11 20:29:00 -
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You're really bragging about stealing other people's wealth?
Tosser.
-L |
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.11 20:39:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Dirk Decibel wrote:Quite a bad conversion rate too though. If you buy your plex for 15 bucks that leaves you with 300 bucks a card. It wouldn't be a particularly smart idea to buy PLEX with RL money in order to get a graphics card, but that's not what CCP intends for you to do. This offer appeals to people like me, who think of 20 PLEX / 10b isk as the product of a day's gameplay. If they don't sell out in the first 5 minutes, I'll have a new graphics card for my 2nd PC and another for my 'missus to upgrade hers.
All that doesn't make it a good conversion rate.
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axxeessee
Trade and Supplies Co.
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Posted - 2012.04.11 21:40:00 -
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Dirk Decibel wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Dirk Decibel wrote:Quite a bad conversion rate too though. If you buy your plex for 15 bucks that leaves you with 300 bucks a card. It wouldn't be a particularly smart idea to buy PLEX with RL money in order to get a graphics card, but that's not what CCP intends for you to do. This offer appeals to people like me, who think of 20 PLEX / 10b isk as the product of a day's gameplay. If they don't sell out in the first 5 minutes, I'll have a new graphics card for my 2nd PC and another for my 'missus to upgrade hers. All that doesn't make it a good conversion rate.
So at how much do you sell your isk for real life $$ ? Oh right, there is no such rate because its illegal.
So yes, its a very good rate, just not a good one if youre dumb enough to buy PLEXes with $ and then buy the gfx card, but thats not what its supposed to be. |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
In Vitro.
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Posted - 2012.04.11 21:51:00 -
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I'm looking forward to the rage threads from people that miscalculated the time. Either because they suck at counting or forget that the UK isn't on GMT. Should be fun.
And yes. This is not about how much you'd have to spend to get your card it's about those people with more isk than they can be bothered with being able to trade it about for a free card. More power to CCPs elbow.
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Ms ElectricFeel
Electric Trading Co.
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 01:51:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Dirk Decibel wrote:Quite a bad conversion rate too though. If you buy your plex for 15 bucks that leaves you with 300 bucks a card. It wouldn't be a particularly smart idea to buy PLEX with RL money in order to get a graphics card, but that's not what CCP intends for you to do. This offer appeals to people like me, who think of 20 PLEX / 10b isk as the product of a day's gameplay. If they don't sell out in the first 5 minutes, I'll have a new graphics card for my 2nd PC and another for my 'missus to upgrade hers.
lol this loser is still lurking on md? |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
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Posted - 2012.04.12 05:40:00 -
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Lecherito wrote:You're really bragging about stealing other people's wealth?
Tosser.
-L
No. But if misinterpreting my post makes you call me names then it's all good.
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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.12 07:58:00 -
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axxeessee wrote:Dirk Decibel wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Dirk Decibel wrote:Quite a bad conversion rate too though. If you buy your plex for 15 bucks that leaves you with 300 bucks a card. It wouldn't be a particularly smart idea to buy PLEX with RL money in order to get a graphics card, but that's not what CCP intends for you to do. This offer appeals to people like me, who think of 20 PLEX / 10b isk as the product of a day's gameplay. If they don't sell out in the first 5 minutes, I'll have a new graphics card for my 2nd PC and another for my 'missus to upgrade hers. All that doesn't make it a good conversion rate. So at how much do you sell your isk for real life $$ ? Oh right, there is no such rate because its illegal. So yes, its a very good rate, just not a good one if youre dumb enough to buy PLEXes with $ and then buy the gfx card, but thats not what its supposed to be.
What you all seem to be forgetting is that EVERY single PLEX in game is created through RL money. So CCP DID get those 300+ bucks for every card they sell.
So yes, it's a horrible conversion rate and way too expensive. Just because some ppl are so rich they won't even notice 10 bill missing doesn't make it a good price.... |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
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Posted - 2012.04.12 08:27:00 -
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Dirk Decibel wrote:What you all seem to be forgetting is that EVERY single PLEX in game is created through RL money. So CCP DID get those 300+ bucks for every card they sell.
Actually they got the "300+ bucks" for selling the PLEX, not the card.
Who knows what the value of a PLEX is to CCP? They could value it as the cost of providing a month of subscription or something else. The cost of posting the graphics card to a customer could be more or less than the cost of providing a month of subscription. Who knows if they paid NVIDIA for the cards or not, or if that payment was in money, services or good will.
If I exchange 20 PLEX for a graphics card, I am not paying "300+ bucks" of my money for it. I am paying 20 PLEX which someone else paid "300+ bucks" for. I could use those 20 PLEX to sub my accounts for a long time or I could do something else with them. Given the amount of isk I have relative to the amount of RL money I have, it would be foolish for me to spend RL money on an EVE subscription. Equally, it would be foolish for me to spend RL money on a new graphics card when CCP are offering me one for 10b isk.
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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2012.04.12 09:29:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Dirk Decibel wrote:What you all seem to be forgetting is that EVERY single PLEX in game is created through RL money. So CCP DID get those 300+ bucks for every card they sell. Actually they got the "300+ bucks" for selling the PLEX, not the card. Who knows what the value of a PLEX is to CCP? They could value it as the cost of providing a month of subscription or something else. The cost of posting the graphics card to a customer could be more or less than the cost of providing a month of subscription. Who knows if they paid NVIDIA for the cards or not, or if that payment was in money, services or good will. If I exchange 20 PLEX for a graphics card, I am not paying "300+ bucks" of my money for it. I am paying 20 PLEX which someone else paid "300+ bucks" for. I could use those 20 PLEX to sub my accounts for a long time or I could do something else with them. Given the amount of isk I have relative to the amount of RL money I have, it would be foolish for me to spend RL money on an EVE subscription. Equally, it would be foolish for me to spend RL money on a new graphics card when CCP are offering me one for 10b isk.
Once again: all that doesn't change anything to the fact that CCP got 300+ bucks for the PLEX used to buy the vidcard, and they don't have to provide anything for the PLEX used in that transaction, cept for said vidcard. A last generation vidcard even.
You can dice and slice that any way you want, it's a crappy deal. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
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Posted - 2012.04.12 09:40:00 -
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Dirk Decibel wrote:You can dice and slice that any way you want, it's a crappy deal.
For who? |
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.12 09:42:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Dirk Decibel wrote:You can dice and slice that any way you want, it's a crappy deal. For who?
For everyone not able to throw away 10+ billion isk or the equivalent of that in RL money they would be saving on EVE subs by using that isk for gametime. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:08:00 -
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Dirk Decibel wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Dirk Decibel wrote:You can dice and slice that any way you want, it's a crappy deal. For who? For everyone not able to throw away 10+ billion isk or the equivalent of that in RL money they would be saving on EVE subs by using that isk for gametime.
So for some people it isn't a "crappy deal" and that was my original point.
Just the same as in real life where for some people spending a million pounds on a car is ridiculous extravagance but for others it's a minor luxury that can be purchased at a whim.
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Llyandrian
Livestock Science Exchange
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:13:00 -
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Dirk Decibel wrote:Of course in this case it's 'just' about half a day of Jita trading volume since the offer is limited to 100 cards. Quite a bad conversion rate too though. If you buy your plex for 15 bucks that leaves you with 300 bucks a card.
That is a naive view, you're comparing apples and oranges.
PLEX are a speculative instrument, more like bonds, the trade hub volume includes a lot of flipping. This takes 2000 PLEX out of the market, the interesting question is how many players will exploit that rise with new PLEX.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
543
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:15:00 -
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Guys you don't really get it (only BB comes close).
This is the first time you can RMT in EvE with CCP's OK.
You can turn PLEX in a real good that you can resell at will.
The possibilities of this "bad deal" are endless.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
58
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:21:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Guys you don't really get it (only BB comes close).
This is the first time you can RMT in EvE with CCP's OK.
You can turn PLEX in a real good that you can resell at will.
The possibilities of this "bad deal" are endless.
This is the first step towards mainstream professional EVE playing. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
543
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:25:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Guys you don't really get it (only BB comes close).
This is the first time you can RMT in EvE with CCP's OK.
You can turn PLEX in a real good that you can resell at will.
The possibilities of this "bad deal" are endless. This is the first step towards mainstream professional EVE playing.
Exactly. 2 dreams came true for me:
1) Being able to play in RL markets in the same way I do in EvE.
2) Soon(tm) being able to sell in RL markets my stuff I make in EvE.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
58
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:33:00 -
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CCP already had me as a guaranteed subscriber until either the EVE servers or my brain gets switched off. But if they follow this route then I'll be "playing" a whole lot more and "working" a whole lot less. |
Itis Zhellin
Galactic Freight and Industrial Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:45:00 -
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Im new to the game, but I saw evefest and the moment when nvidia announced this offer. So I fail to understand how come players who are in the game for a long time did not knew about the offer and only now everybody is rushing to buy plex. You guys had plenty of time to gather the 20 plex, why the rush now?
Anyway, the price for those cards is ridiculous. 20 plex is about 400 euros while you can buy the same card for about 150-200 euros in real life. These are the most expensive nvidia cards ever sold on a market. But I respect the clever marketing, well done. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
543
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:51:00 -
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Itis Zhellin wrote:Im new to the game, but I saw evefest and the moment when nvidia announced this offer. So I fail to understand how come players who are in the game for a long time did not knew about the offer and only now everybody is rushing to buy plex. You guys had plenty of time to gather the 20 plex, why the rush now?
Anyway, the price for those cards is ridiculous. 20 plex is about 400 euros while you can buy the same card for about 150-200 euros in real life. These are the most expensive nvidia cards ever sold on a market. But I respect the clever marketing, well done.
1) Even knowing about it in advance does not help since CCP decides when to enable the offer.
2) They are doing exactly like any RMT sweatshop do. They sell the RMT money for FAR worse value than the equivalent in PLEX (because of different reasons though: the sweatshops discount because of the end user risk of being banned, CCP to not short circuit their own offers).
BUT, and here is the BUT.
To date there was NO WAY for a legit player to export ISK into money.
Plenty of players who don't know what to do with their billions or trillions, they'd be more than glad to be "fooled" with those atrocious offers so they can convert their equivalent $10k in ISK into REAL $5k.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
58
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:22:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Plenty of players who don't know what to do with their billions or trillions, they'd be more than glad to be "fooled" with those atrocious offers so they can convert their equivalent $10k in ISK into REAL $5k.
Exactly.
It's the same as when Wired claimed that T4U earned me -ú42,000. There is no way I could have converted the isk into -ú42,000. Even if I had chosen to break the EULA, which is an option that I wouldn't even consider, I would not have got -ú42,000.
Now I have twice as much isk as I had back then, but I still can't exchange it for -ú84,000. If CCP offered me -ú20,000 for it today, I'd take that offer without a second thought. The question is, how low a price would I accept? |
Itis Zhellin
Galactic Freight and Industrial Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 12:00:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Itis Zhellin wrote:Im new to the game, but I saw evefest and the moment when nvidia announced this offer. So I fail to understand how come players who are in the game for a long time did not knew about the offer and only now everybody is rushing to buy plex. You guys had plenty of time to gather the 20 plex, why the rush now?
Anyway, the price for those cards is ridiculous. 20 plex is about 400 euros while you can buy the same card for about 150-200 euros in real life. These are the most expensive nvidia cards ever sold on a market. But I respect the clever marketing, well done. 1) Even knowing about it in advance does not help since CCP decides when to enable the offer. ...
So? You buy the 20 plex and wait till the offer goes live.
I though EVE market is more clever than any other random mmo market where you can create panic and make people to buy crap way to easy. But I suppose the human nature stay the same even in virtual space.
I agree that this was a good deal for those who already have tons of isk and nothing on to spend it. And also a clever marketing deal for nvidia and ccp. Now everybody talk about how come EVE players can buy stuff with pixels. I love this game. |
Aurel Svenson
Cyclone Solutions
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Posted - 2012.04.12 12:13:00 -
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10 billion ISK for a video card... Unless you're phenomenally good at EVE or phenomenally bad at real life (or in a particularly poor third world country), this does not lead to playing EVE for money. |
cluster 1
GTE Limited
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 12:15:00 -
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1. Sell nerfed useless SC and toon
2. Get new GFX cards
3. Cancell subscription
4.Profit |
enterprisePSI
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Posted - 2012.04.12 13:23:00 -
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1 plex = 19.95 euro , 20 plex = 399 euro, for a 199 euro card . Nope :)
The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one.
-«enterprise-psi |
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