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Ecky X
Shadow Company
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Posted - 2008.12.14 11:36:00 -
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Short story:
Earlier I warped to a belt in lowsec in my Stabber, and a flashy Deimos nearly landed on me about 5 seconds later. 5 minutes later he is without drones, deep in armor, when a Myrmidon arrives to help him. I start manually flying and pop more drones - run out of barrage, switch over to EMP. Deimos and Myrmi are practically helpless against my Stabber. 2nd Deimos arrives to help, launches drones. I'm low on shield, and completely out of ammo, so I pull my drone and warp out about 30 seconds later.
Discuss.
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Predator989
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Posted - 2008.12.14 11:40:00 -
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Deimos was probably plated and a nubcake in this case, but tbh if you can keep speed/range you can win any fight.(for the most part)
Its not about the ship you fly its how you fly the damn thing
P.S.
Lucky for you he wasnt a good pilot....even if you go 2km/s i know of a few pilots who would've sent ya packing in no time in a deimos.
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BiggestT
Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.12.14 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Predator989 Deimos was probably plated and a nubcake in this case, but tbh if you can keep speed/range you can win any fight.(for the most part)
Excactly, its how an interceptor can actually kill a turet bs (if hes got no drones/neuts and only an armour buffer tank i.e. rare). EVE history
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Ecky X
Shadow Company
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Posted - 2008.12.14 11:47:00 -
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First Deimos was active tanked with an afterburner, was easy to kite him. Myrmidon had MWD and a nice (read - expensive) web, so I just had to keep a bit more distance from him. Second Deimos was very fast, 2.2km/s, made kiting complicated.
Stabber does a lot more than 2km/s - more like 3.5 before overheating.
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Captin Corsair
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Posted - 2008.12.14 11:57:00 -
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going fast = winning?
This is news.
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Ecky X
Shadow Company
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Posted - 2008.12.14 11:59:00 -
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Going fast = winning against... who?
Caldari = missile spam, Stabber has to run. Amarr load longer range crystals or tracking disrupt.
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Furb Killer
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.12.14 12:29:00 -
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Yeah because obviously every amarr ships uses tracking disrupters.
Myrm shouldnt lose from stabber, but unless stabber fails a myrm also wont be able to kill a stabber. Normal diemost is plated, and will just slowly die. Only thing he can do is flying somewhere with overheated mwd to get out of warp disruptor range/inside web range.
But whatever is wrong with gallente, this isnt one of them. Only 'fix' for this would be to let blaster ships fly as fast as a stabber or give blasters 20km range. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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BiggestT
Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.12.14 13:00:00 -
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I see what u did there..
I can do it too!
Gallente is overpowered!!11 heres a km as proof!!1 /end sarcasm
http://kb.eve-rust.com/index.php?a=kill_detail&kll_id=45008 EVE history
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Vengarioth Skullshanks
Minmatar Bikini Girls with Machine Guns
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Posted - 2008.12.14 13:29:00 -
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Just a sidenote;
It's fun how people start fitting AB's instead of MWD's on every ship because forums say that's the new **** to do.
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Stefan F
Enrave Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.12.14 13:52:00 -
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Have good experiences with them tho'
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.12.14 13:57:00 -
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People failing at internet spaceships doesn't mean anything for a balance discussion. -- 249km locking? |
Ecky X
Shadow Company
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Posted - 2008.12.14 14:23:00 -
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I don't see how any Deimos fit could beat a Stabber. Granted, there has to be a rock-paper-scissors, but half of the Gallente lineup is suicide to fly.
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S'car
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Posted - 2008.12.14 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ecky X I don't see how any Deimos fit could beat a Stabber. Granted, there has to be a rock-paper-scissors, but half of the Gallente lineup is suicide to fly.
the deimos is worth 20 times the stabber it will pwn yo.
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Ignatious Mei
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Posted - 2008.12.14 15:47:00 -
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Right now I am almost totally gallente specced except for the falcon. I have about 12 mil SP. The way that I see it the only 2 note worthy non cap ships that gallente have are the gank Brutix and the Domi. Before all the changes in the last few months I would have included the Ishtar and mega in that list as well. I don't think we have the best ship in any class.
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.12.14 16:05:00 -
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Maybe amarr/matar needs a nerf.
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Myrkala
Minmatar Aurora Acclivitous
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Posted - 2008.12.14 16:36:00 -
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Maybe forum whining needs to be nerfed.
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Katarlia Simov
Minmatar Cowboys From Hell
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Posted - 2008.12.14 17:40:00 -
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Congrats OP, you are apparently 'quite good' at flying a stabber.
The guys you fought SUCK. Thats not the same as gallente needing a boost. The deimos is awful and there are many many threads on the subject, but never mind. The gallente have a massive amount of really good ships, its just combining stupid pilots with bad ships is a recipe for fail :)
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.12.14 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ecky X First Deimos was active tanked with an afterburner, was easy to kite him.
Ugh, I hope you killed him. Active tank is okay (depending on how many slots he uses for it) but AB on a blaster boat is asking... well, asking for a stabber to kill him.
Quote: Second Deimos was very fast, 2.2km/s, made kiting complicated.
Interestingly enough, this is the speed of an 800mm plated Deimos with an overloaded MWD. __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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The Vixen
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Posted - 2008.12.14 19:37:00 -
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Dear Santa,
Please let this useless thread die. Don't feed the OP's bordom.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.14 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ecky X Short story:
Earlier I warped to a belt in lowsec in my Stabber, and a flashy Deimos nearly landed on me about 5 seconds later. 5 minutes later he is without drones, deep in armor, when a Myrmidon arrives to help him. I start manually flying and pop more drones - run out of barrage, switch over to EMP. Deimos and Myrmi are practically helpless against my Stabber. 2nd Deimos arrives to help, launches drones. I'm low on shield, and completely out of ammo, so I pull my drone and warp out about 30 seconds later.
Discuss.
As a huge thorax flying individual I can tell you this.
The thorax is great at taking on anything besides nano, but it is useless against nano... And seeing as how the deimos is much the same as the thorax(besides some stuff)it is indeed weak against nano aswell.
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Poba
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.12.14 21:24:00 -
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what a excelent example of why drones should be non-targetable
fix f**king drones
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PsychoBones
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2008.12.14 21:59:00 -
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Maybe you're all ******ed?
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arbalesttom
Rulers Of Mankind
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Posted - 2008.12.14 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Poba what a excelent example of why drones should be non-targetable
fix f**king drones
This.
And i approve at least half of the gallente line ships currently is 99% suicidal to fly, because it will die to almost every ship in almost every situation. The web and speednerf royally screwed over blasters in every way possible.
Fix us please. ***Sig***
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.12.14 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Katarlia Simov Congrats OP, you are apparently 'quite good' at flying a stabber.
The guys you fought SUCK. Thats not the same as gallente needing a boost. The deimos is awful and there are many many threads on the subject, but never mind. The gallente have a massive amount of really good ships, its just combining stupid pilots with bad ships is a recipe for fail :)
On the plus side, if you fit it with neutrons and 3 damage mods, it outdamages the 425mm autos on the stabber at every range. And has a bigger dronebay too. (Also, it's not like you can fit 425s, 2x HAM IIs and a MWD on a stabber without a fitting mod anyway) -- 249km locking? |
Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.15 00:01:00 -
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We can still train anything. Not a single race needs a boost. Only ships and modules do.
Of course i would like to see some benefits from race. WIth this i don't mean anything too BIG, but just a small thing. Minor thing. One that helps, but doesn't mean you would change your race. Stop whining. |
goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.15 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom
Originally by: Poba what a excelent example of why drones should be non-targetable
fix f**king drones
This.
And i approve at least half of the gallente line ships currently is 99% suicidal to fly, because it will die to almost every ship in almost every situation. The web and speednerf royally screwed over blasters in every way possible.
Fix us please.
I'd agree aslong as they can always be killed(ie smartbombs).
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Taak Coram
Gallente Outdated Host Productions
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Posted - 2008.12.15 02:43:00 -
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Interesting...
Remember when Gallente was The Race To Be, if you flew Amarr you were laughed at, we were graced by people like Johnny JoJo, and calls for "NERF GALLENTE" could be heard echoing through the empty shells that once held souls loitering in General Discussion?
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luxty
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Posted - 2008.12.15 03:06:00 -
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If we had a Gallente Johnny JoJo CCP would have to fix blaster boats.
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Bager Gray
Gallente The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.15 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: luxty If we had a Gallente Johnny JoJo CCP would have to fix blaster boats.
Never speak of him again!!!
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Xori Ruscuv
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.12.15 06:09:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 15/12/2008 06:12:34 Well, yeah. Pop drones, and a blaster ship is helpless. If you can stay out of nos range, even more helpless.
Blaster ships do need something to help. The only thing they CAN do is run back to the gate. They are not going to catch you unless you royally **** up and come within (overheated) web range. If they're really lucky they won't lag when you come in (overheated) web range. Even then, the web nerf makes it a lot easier to get away.
Blaster ships suck ass without friends around to make the target hold the f*k still.
As for the drones though... shouldn't he have been carrying Warrior IIs? Old days: The M in Mwd is for Mmandatory. These days: The W in Warrior II is for Wtf are you doing without Warrior IIs?
A Vaga could have weathered the Warrior IIs long enough to kill them... but a stabber? I don't know, I haven't flown one. Did he have Warrior IIs? Were you able to kill his Warrior IIs that easily?
Oh btw, hi Ecky X o/ o/ I'm back in game. Hope all has gone well for you :)
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