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Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.17 02:54:00 - [1] BIG BS BPC AUCTION Assorted 10 Pack 2 * Apocalypse 1-run ME5 BPCs 2 * Dominix 1-run ME5 BPCs 2 * Megathron 1-run ME5 BPCs 2 * Scorpion 1-run ME5 BPCs 2 * Typhoon 1-run ME5 BPCs You are bidding on the entire package of 10 BPc's, not individual ones. There will be no change to the composition of BPCs offered. If you dont like the mix of BPCs, don't bid. Reserve : 25M ISK (you have to bid more than this) Minimum Bid Increase : 1M ISK (you have to bid 1m more than the last bid) Auction Finish Time : Monday (19 July) 23:59 EVT Sniper Bid Rule : Auction is extended if anyone bids within 1 hour of the last bidder Only forum bids will be accepted (no anonymous bidders via EVE-mail) Edited bids will not be accepted. Delete and re-post if necessary. Happy bidding, and good luck. BIG in EVE www.BIG-EVE.com \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 431632 \|
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.17 02:54:00 - [2] BIG BS BPC AUCTION Assorted 10 Pack 2 * Apocalypse 1-run ME5 BPCs 2 * Dominix 1-run ME5 BPCs 2 * Megathron 1-run ME5 BPCs 2 * Scorpion 1-run ME5 BPCs 2 * Typhoon 1-run ME5 BPCs You are bidding on the entire package of 10 BPc's, not individual ones. There will be no change to the composition of BPCs offered. If you dont like the mix of BPCs, don't bid. Reserve : 25M ISK (you have to bid more than this) Minimum Bid Increase : 1M ISK (you have to bid 1m more than the last bid) Auction Finish Time : Monday (19 July) 23:59 EVT Sniper Bid Rule : Auction is extended if anyone bids within 1 hour of the last bidder Only forum bids will be accepted (no anonymous bidders via EVE-mail) Edited bids will not be accepted. Delete and re-post if necessary. Happy bidding, and good luck. BIG in EVE www.BIG-EVE.com \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 431632 \|
Rutoo	Posted - 2004.07.17 03:34:00 - [3] I'll start the bidding off 25million isk _______________________________________________ you mess with the best you'll die like the rest
Rutoo	Posted - 2004.07.17 03:34:00 - [4] I'll start the bidding off 25million isk _______________________________________________ you mess with the best you'll die like the rest
Riddari	Posted - 2004.07.17 03:55:00 - [5] ME 5 not touching that with a big stick ¼©¼ a history
Riddari	Posted - 2004.07.17 03:55:00 - [6] ME 5 not touching that with a big stick ¼©¼ a history
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.17 16:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Riddari ME 5 not touching that with a big stick Actually the difference between ME5 and ME10 is about 750k on Tier 2 Battleships, less on Tier 1. Which is about 1% of your cost price. So the amount of time to research the BPO the extra 5 levels isn't really worth the investment. Nor is paying more for higher levels. The difference between ME10 and ME15 is quite negligible. We use them, and don't need BIG sticks either... \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 863365 \|
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.17 16:00:00 - [8] Originally by: Riddari ME 5 not touching that with a big stick Actually the difference between ME5 and ME10 is about 750k on Tier 2 Battleships, less on Tier 1. Which is about 1% of your cost price. So the amount of time to research the BPO the extra 5 levels isn't really worth the investment. Nor is paying more for higher levels. The difference between ME10 and ME15 is quite negligible. We use them, and don't need BIG sticks either... \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 863365 \|
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.07.17 20:11:00 - [9] I've heard people ingame complain that they don't accept anything less then ME 20. It was obvious all they knew about "ME" was that higher is better and nothing about its asymptotic character. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.07.17 20:11:00 - [10] I've heard people ingame complain that they don't accept anything less then ME 20. It was obvious all they knew about "ME" was that higher is better and nothing about its asymptotic character. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Vaar	Posted - 2004.07.17 20:20:00 - [11] Ray, As someone who may consider bidding could you point me to somewhere where I can find out the exact difference in minerals between a ME5 and ME15 BS BPC, or pick one of your Tier2 BS and show me those stats.
Vaar	Posted - 2004.07.17 20:20:00 - [12] Ray, As someone who may consider bidding could you point me to somewhere where I can find out the exact difference in minerals between a ME5 and ME15 BS BPC, or pick one of your Tier2 BS and show me those stats.
Wonderfull	Posted - 2004.07.17 20:27:00 - [13] Edited by: Wonderfull on 17/07/2004 20:30:32 If you take your BS BPO from ME 5 to ME 10, and saves 750k on each ship i would say its worth it. Taking BPO from ME 5 to ME 10 is around 16 days, probobly a bit longer. in that time you can make 26 BPC ( 15 houres to make a copy ), selling for tier 2 a 4.5 mill each. so thats 117 mill. Taking you save 750K on each BS you build, you have to sell 156 BS to make home the research time. I would say thats worth it, if you plan on being in the BS building for more then a few months. I know the research time for taking the BS BPO to ME 10 might be a littel short, but still i consider it worth it if you take it to ME 10, but taking it over ME 10 just aint worth it considering the amount on BS you have to build to break even with the research time. And then you have to remember you can sell the ME 10 for a bit more then the ME 5.
Wonderfull	Posted - 2004.07.17 20:27:00 - [14] Edited by: Wonderfull on 17/07/2004 20:30:32 If you take your BS BPO from ME 5 to ME 10, and saves 750k on each ship i would say its worth it. Taking BPO from ME 5 to ME 10 is around 16 days, probobly a bit longer. in that time you can make 26 BPC ( 15 houres to make a copy ), selling for tier 2 a 4.5 mill each. so thats 117 mill. Taking you save 750K on each BS you build, you have to sell 156 BS to make home the research time. I would say thats worth it, if you plan on being in the BS building for more then a few months. I know the research time for taking the BS BPO to ME 10 might be a littel short, but still i consider it worth it if you take it to ME 10, but taking it over ME 10 just aint worth it considering the amount on BS you have to build to break even with the research time. And then you have to remember you can sell the ME 10 for a bit more then the ME 5.
Mari Y'Tuk	Posted - 2004.07.17 21:41:00 - [15] Researching a BPO is worth it, paying so much more for higher ME bpcs isn't. for Example, Apoc made with PE5 with the following mineral prices: Trit: 2 Pyer: 6 Mexa: 11 Isog: 71 Nocx: 340 Zydr: 4300 Mega: 6500 ME5 Total Cost: 100,135,562 ME10 Total Cost: 99,386,106 Exact saving from 5 to 10 : 742,616 ME15 Total Cost: 99,112,014 Exact saving from 5 to 15 : 1,027,594 Exact saving from 10 to 15 : 284,978 ME20 Total Cost : 98,963,938 Exact saving from 5 to 20 : 1,171,290 Exact saving from 15 to 20 : 143,696 Check out my sheet My Production Spreadsheet, Most T1 Bp data, Located here.
Mari Y'Tuk	Posted - 2004.07.17 21:41:00 - [16] Researching a BPO is worth it, paying so much more for higher ME bpcs isn't. for Example, Apoc made with PE5 with the following mineral prices: Trit: 2 Pyer: 6 Mexa: 11 Isog: 71 Nocx: 340 Zydr: 4300 Mega: 6500 ME5 Total Cost: 100,135,562 ME10 Total Cost: 99,386,106 Exact saving from 5 to 10 : 742,616 ME15 Total Cost: 99,112,014 Exact saving from 5 to 15 : 1,027,594 Exact saving from 10 to 15 : 284,978 ME20 Total Cost : 98,963,938 Exact saving from 5 to 20 : 1,171,290 Exact saving from 15 to 20 : 143,696 Check out my sheet My Production Spreadsheet, Most T1 Bp data, Located here.
BloodSpoon	Posted - 2004.07.18 00:10:00 - [17] so is the top bid still 25 mill? "ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus"
BloodSpoon	Posted - 2004.07.18 00:10:00 - [18] so is the top bid still 25 mill? "ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus"
Fubar	Posted - 2004.07.18 01:51:00 - [19] 26 million isk
Fubar	Posted - 2004.07.18 01:51:00 - [20] 26 million isk
Soljah	Posted - 2004.07.18 06:58:00 - [21] 27mill =================================== Heaven An Hell Torpedoes 2004.08.01 05:25:56 Combat Your Heaven An Hell Torpedoes Perfectly strikes Sanshas Beast Lord Wrecking 1731.8 damage. The Hunt Can Soon Become The Hunted.
Soljah	Posted - 2004.07.18 06:58:00 - [22] 27mill =================================== Heaven An Hell Torpedoes 2004.08.01 05:25:56 Combat Your Heaven An Hell Torpedoes Perfectly strikes Sanshas Beast Lord Wrecking 1731.8 damage. The Hunt Can Soon Become The Hunted.
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.18 14:54:00 - [23] Edited by: Ray McCormack on 18/07/2004 15:01:57 Originally by: Primer Xenius I've heard people ingame complain that they don't accept anything less then ME 20. It was obvious all they knew about "ME" was that higher is better and nothing about its asymptotic character. This can best be described as a line graph, arcing to a point but never actually meeting it. The more steps on the graph, the less closer it gets to that point. That is to say, the more levels in Mineral Efficiency research, the less of an impact they have on the wastage. Originally by: Vaar As someone who may consider bidding could you point me to somewhere where I can find out the exact difference in minerals between a ME5 and ME15 BS BPC, or pick one of your Tier2 BS and show me those stats. Thanks to Mari Y'Tuk for providing the answers. As you can see the difference between ME5 and ME15 for a Tier 2 battleship is just over a million, or 1% of the sale price. And Mari's Spreadsheet is one of the best resources out there. Get it, use it. Originally by: BloodSpoon so is the top bid still 25 mill? Soljah has it at 27m. Auction finishes just before midnight tomorrow. Edit - This table may help you a lot more for comparisons. It lists the savings between each ME from 1 - 20. \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 526545 \|
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.18 14:54:00 - [24] Edited by: Ray McCormack on 18/07/2004 15:01:57 Originally by: Primer Xenius I've heard people ingame complain that they don't accept anything less then ME 20. It was obvious all they knew about "ME" was that higher is better and nothing about its asymptotic character. This can best be described as a line graph, arcing to a point but never actually meeting it. The more steps on the graph, the less closer it gets to that point. That is to say, the more levels in Mineral Efficiency research, the less of an impact they have on the wastage. Originally by: Vaar As someone who may consider bidding could you point me to somewhere where I can find out the exact difference in minerals between a ME5 and ME15 BS BPC, or pick one of your Tier2 BS and show me those stats. Thanks to Mari Y'Tuk for providing the answers. As you can see the difference between ME5 and ME15 for a Tier 2 battleship is just over a million, or 1% of the sale price. And Mari's Spreadsheet is one of the best resources out there. Get it, use it. Originally by: BloodSpoon so is the top bid still 25 mill? Soljah has it at 27m. Auction finishes just before midnight tomorrow. Edit - This table may help you a lot more for comparisons. It lists the savings between each ME from 1 - 20. \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 526545 \|
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.19 09:24:00 - [25] Auction finishes tonight. \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 317036 \|
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.19 09:24:00 - [26] Auction finishes tonight. \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 317036 \|
Fubar	Posted - 2004.07.19 17:31:00 - [27] 28m
Fubar	Posted - 2004.07.19 17:31:00 - [28] 28m
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.19 23:47:00 - [29] Auction finishes in a few minutes unless sniper rule applies... \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 762981 \|
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.19 23:47:00 - [30] Auction finishes in a few minutes unless sniper rule applies... \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 762981 \|
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.20 00:06:00 - [31] Auction won by Fubar for 28m. Congratulations, I'll contact you in-game to arrange things. Next auction starts this Friday, to finish the same time next Monday. Keep an eye out for it. \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 231393 \|
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.07.20 00:06:00 - [32] Auction won by Fubar for 28m. Congratulations, I'll contact you in-game to arrange things. Next auction starts this Friday, to finish the same time next Monday. Keep an eye out for it. \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 231393 \|
JaiMaster	Posted - 2004.07.20 07:10:00 - [33] The reason behind BIG's reluctance to research these BPCs further is of course they are BIG's share of the BPCs generated by the "BIG deal" open BPO partnership. To take the bps away from copy and into research would likely require consent from all those who "own" (and therefor would lose their BPC per week during research) the BPO. Besides, ~2m and ~3.5m arnt bad prices to pay for t1 and t2 BPCs respectively :) Especially given the boom in apocs recently. JaiMaster happy previous BIG BPC auction customer ------- Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end... Your end.
JaiMaster	Posted - 2004.07.20 07:10:00 - [34] The reason behind BIG's reluctance to research these BPCs further is of course they are BIG's share of the BPCs generated by the "BIG deal" open BPO partnership. To take the bps away from copy and into research would likely require consent from all those who "own" (and therefor would lose their BPC per week during research) the BPO. Besides, ~2m and ~3.5m arnt bad prices to pay for t1 and t2 BPCs respectively :) Especially given the boom in apocs recently. JaiMaster happy previous BIG BPC auction customer ------- Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end... Your end.

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