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Raisa Mole
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.16 02:47:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:lordloco wrote:I am really looking forward to play the game, but when I played it on fanfest the graphic was really bad. But I was also told that the version we played was 3 month old and it would look much better allready I have read about all reviews of the game after fanfest and they are most positiv, but I stumbled on this yesterday and its the first really bad review of Dust 514 even when the writers had been invited by CCP http://www.gamer.no/artikler/108205/sniktitt-dust-514What they say is that the graphic is very bad, and the enviroment looks very cold and steril. and that the game remind them of 2 other games " Battlefield 2142 og MAG" I also asked about the graphic on the round table and was told that it would become much better, but one of the Devs said " it will have good graphic , but dont forget its a Free To Play game" oops that is a very bad thing to say, it can be as free to play as it will, if you release a game in 2012-13 without good - great graphic you will not get anyone to play it It can be as good gameplay as any game, bombbardments , ships , cars, tanks, outfits, remember we do all have HD on every screen , we are used to have good picture and graphic. There is no way in the world around it But I am really looking forward to play it and all my friends , but I have already told them that the good graphic will be released when it goes public and the beta is for adjusting gameplay. But we will not have the roumors that its a good game good gameplay but the graphic is bad, many will not bother to download it I would rather pay for it and get good graphic. :) :) Last quote from the rewiev in gamer.no : " I am not looking forward to this game " I became sad when I read it and hope we dont get many reviews like that  keep up the good work CCP My 2 cent. It's not the graphics that make a game great. It's the gameplay. Take Amnesia: Dark Descent as an example. It doesn't have stellar graphics, but the gameplay and the storyline is riveting and to the point. It draws you in so much, that you don't care about the graphics. You only care about staying alive. People still play that game for the thrill of being scared. Then there are the Mario games. Graphics are childish, but adults still play it. There are plenty of others, but you should get my point. Graphics mean nothing if the gameplay is pathetic.
This. I could not care less about the graphics when I'm considering games, graphics are dead last on the list of considerations. I want compelling gameplay first, second, and third. And DUST looks like it's going to give me that, with a system somewhat reminiscent of Command and Conquer : Renegade. I LOVED that game, it's one of the only FPSes that have really pulled me in. Played CoD, yawn, eye candy and nothing else in my book, and most of the other top FPSes nowadays are similarly snooze inducing for me. Give me fresh gameplay and the game can look like it's 15 years old for all I care. |
Joran Dravius
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.16 03:05:00 -
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lordloco wrote:I am really looking forward to play the game, but when I played it on fanfest the graphic was really bad.
Playstation 3 is 6 year old hardware that wasn't exactly a high end gaming rig even when it was new. What did you expect? |
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.16 04:16:00 -
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Joran Dravius wrote:
Playstation 3 is 6 year old hardware that wasn't exactly a high end gaming rig even when it was new. What did you expect?
But But Sony said that the play station 3 was a supa computa and it needed export controls and it was uber powaful and that iran was going to build nuclear missiles with it and that it was going to usher in a new age in gaming with realism thats unlike anything we have never seen before and that it was able to process all these graphics and polygons on a supa cell engine that trumped every thing on the market and and it was just you know uber affen geil, man, i mean really thats what we expected . |
knobber Jobbler
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Posted - 2012.04.16 11:53:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:It lost me as there is no destructible environment. It just doesn't look to be in the same league as BF3. Which is only half true because only certain structures can be destroyed and because you can only bring down specific structures in the BF universe, I find your argument flawed.
Look at it this way, in BF3, you can destroy most of the smaller structures and visibly hack away at almost all of them and certainly destroy most of the cover which isn't landscape or core walls in maps. In most cases, I shoot a building with a tank, the building breaks or at least its -1 wall. Granted its not everything but it allot of stuff is destroyable.
In Dust, you cannot do those things.
At least try and be a little objective even if you're a fanboi. |
Equto
EXURO VITA
GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
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Posted - 2012.04.16 12:52:00 -
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Sri Nova wrote:Joran Dravius wrote:
Playstation 3 is 6 year old hardware that wasn't exactly a high end gaming rig even when it was new. What did you expect?
But But Sony said that the play station 3 was a supa computa and it needed export controls and it was uber powaful and that iran was going to build nuclear missiles with it and that it was going to usher in a new age in gaming with realism thats unlike anything we have never seen before and that it was able to process all these graphics and polygons on a supa cell engine that trumped every thing on the market and and it was just you know uber affen geil, man, i mean really thats what we expected .
Just so you know, that cell processor is super powerful and can render both graphics and crack encryptions faster than most other types of processors. However the biggest problem with it is that it takes a different type of programing from almost every other type of processor and as such its difficult to both learn and use effectively. If people could learn the processor to use it potential then it might even dwarf current computer however I have no way of knowing this. |
J Kunjeh
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Posted - 2012.04.16 12:59:00 -
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As Eve itself proves, graphics matter a ton to many gamers, myself included. Let's just hope they get Dust514 right, as they did with Eve (yes, I know the PS3 can't render as amazingly as a high end PC, but it can still put out some pretty amazing stuff if the programmers and artists do their jobs right).
"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)"
(The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.16 13:06:00 -
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I don't believe that it's a bad review of Dust. If you bothered to read it.
the last part of the review - translated to english wrote:I look forward not to the Dust 514, but I can not wait to see how it ends up. As a relatively empty sandbox with room for 48 war-loving maniacs, there is still a bit uninspired and blasst to be super interesting as the shooter, but I expect the next beta rounds shows the social magic of EVE leaking effectively over.
If so, it will be very special. Very special eh? I don't see a problem with that.
I'll wait for it to be released before I say the graphics are bad. |
chachie Stetille
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.16 13:20:00 -
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My 2 penc is Graphics is why I came back to Eve. SWTOR was a mass let down and a waste of $ wow is too bad the Graphics is a big part of why I play any game
Just saying
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.16 14:21:00 -
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chachie Stetille wrote:My 2 penc is Graphics is why I came back to Eve. SWTOR was a mass let down and a waste of $ wow is too bad the Graphics is a big part of why I play any game
Just saying
Although I cannot deny that graphics is very important, its Achilles heel is still the gameplay. How often have you run into games where the graphics were awesome, at least at the time of their release, but the gameplay was not complimenting it or was not working with it?
There was this video game critic that my brother showed me on YouTube that took the time to make a critique on video games and gameplay using MegaMan as an example of great gameplay and Dr Jackal and Mr. Hyde as an example of terrible gameplay. Mind you, the graphics that existed at the time were considered some of the best when they were first released. He also made a critique on the use of "grinding" to progress through the games and how it has affected the overall gameplay of later titles. I forgot the guy's name, but I will get you the link whenever I can.
Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.04.16 15:06:00 -
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Eye candy is very important to me, I'll go ahead and admit it. Not more so than good game play, but important none-the-less.
However, we still have a ways to go before release. I'll reserve my opinion until then.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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Mars Theran
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.16 16:15:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:chachie Stetille wrote:My 2 penc is Graphics is why I came back to Eve. SWTOR was a mass let down and a waste of $ wow is too bad the Graphics is a big part of why I play any game
Just saying
Although I cannot deny that graphics is very important, its Achilles heel is still the gameplay. How often have you run into games where the graphics were awesome, at least at the time of their release, but the gameplay was not complimenting it or was not working with it? There was this video game critic that my brother showed me on YouTube that took the time to make a critique on video games and gameplay using MegaMan as an example of great gameplay and Dr Jackal and Mr. Hyde as an example of terrible gameplay. Mind you, the graphics that existed at the time were considered some of the best when they were first released. He also made a critique on the use of "grinding" to progress through the games and how it has affected the overall gameplay of later titles. I forgot the guy's name, but I will get you the link whenever I can. EDIT: Found the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FpigqfcvlM
If he's using Megaman as an example of great gameplay, I don't think we can expect much there. 
Turn WiS into wIN! ..make all the characters Nude. |
Welsige
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.16 17:33:00 -
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To me the best selling point of Dust514 is consequence.
Your actions will matter. Your actions will have repercusions. Your actions will influence the way the galaxy is shaped.
Its not like your run of the mill fps experience like BF, COD, etc, wich are allways the same maps and a dull ladder or some other empty statistic - these games are totally shallow and have no appeal to me. I got MW3 and didnt bother to play more than a few matches of it online before giving it out to a friend.
EVE is real. And I hope DUST will be real too.
At least there is where i am putting my money at.
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lordloco
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:26:00 -
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To me the best selling point of Dust514 is consequence
Your actions will matter. Your actions will have repercusions. Your actions will influence the way the galaxy is shaped
Its not like your run of the mill fps experience like BF, COD, etc, wich are allways the same maps and a dull ladder or some other empty statistic - these games are totally shallow and have no appeal to me. I got MW3 and didnt bother to play more than a few matches of it online before giving it out to a friend
EVE is real. And I hope DUST will be real too
At least there is where i am putting my money at
As I said in my post, I played it on fanfest and its going to be a blast to play, and from what I could see the tactics and weapon at hand its going to blow people away. And every planet is going to be different even the same types will be different.
And I have played both BF and COD and totally agree with you there....running killing, get killed start over again, and one get used to the maps after a wile. This is going to be totally different in Dust 514 I think
But never the less, people will not settle for less graphic then in these games, no matter F2P , but imagine that graphic and great gameplay, it could be the largest game in the end of this year, and I do think CCP will make it, but when the beta starts, there will be a lot of gameplay videos and if there goes 3 mounths with beta graphic, I just hope it will not get to long until they run out the good graphic. |
Kievan Arakyd
MarSec Industries
STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2012.04.16 19:45:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:It lost me as there is no destructible environment. It just doesn't look to be in the same league as BF3.
Destructible as in walls that can take 5 tank shells? |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae
ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2012.04.16 19:48:00 -
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The thing to remember about FPS games, is that people don't play them exclusively for graphics. In terms of arena, some look awesome, but others are meh but people want the fights. CCP nails the combat down first, nobody would notice as much if environments feel sterile. Well, some will, but it all comes down to the actual gameplay. |
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