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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2008.12.15 14:28:00 -
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if each station in a system had as many exit ports pointed at each star gate and you were able to sellect the stargate access you wanna undock from this will drasticly reduce the amout of collisions and it auto aligns you to get the hell out of way.
this also makes undocking blind out of a station a bit safer for you can practicly insta warp or give a better chance of survival blindly undocking.
but if this was done you would have to reduce the amount of time a ship has invunerable to locking so there is a tiny chance to catch slower ships frigs already hard to cach so whats the diferance
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Blood Titan
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Posted - 2008.12.15 14:32:00 -
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This might also help against the high sec suicide ganking ships. Not to mention most ships in a scifi universe have multiple docking points, should stations have the same. That and it would be a much more logical design. These stations are massive there should be a better design.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2008.12.15 15:44:00 -
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i agree good buddie even tho its a bias oppinion hehe
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Blood Titan
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Posted - 2008.12.15 15:48:00 -
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I wouldnt call it bias, people have had similar complaints that could be solved by this.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.16 11:13:00 -
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SWEET lets do this!!!
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Total Disaster
Caldari
Frontier Industry
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Posted - 2008.12.16 12:19:00 -
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and miners get an exit port for each asteroid belt too?
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.16 12:24:00 -
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i do not tollerate ignorant comments like that so go choke on a mans apendage and die
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.16 13:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Emporors Champian
i do not tollerate ignorant comments like that so go choke on a mans apendage and die
I'd be very very careful who you call ignorant with spelling like yours.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.16 13:51:00 -
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your going to critique correct spelling? lol
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.16 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Emporors Champian
your going to critique correct spelling? lol
Yes I am, also your use of the apostrophe (or lack thereof) is lamentable.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.16 13:59:00 -
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so your not talking about my spelling your talking about my composure of my syntax
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.16 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Emporors Champian
so your not talking about my spelling your talking about my composure of my syntax
And your grammar and spelling. There is no such word as "charictor". Also it would be "the composition of my syntax".
Rapidly getting derailed here. 
Back on topic, this is quite a good idea and it would severely nerf station camping which is or isn't a good thing depending on your point of view. I reckon in really busy hub systems then yes but otherwise no.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.16 14:39:00 -
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yes i can see empire stations being more grand in scale makeing them accomodate high trafic and thus require an ease of deployment to reduce trafic.
maybe having this in 0.0 would be to much of a change to toss everyones camp training out the window hehe.
i for it in empire only and im for it everywhere if thats what most people like.
i think station camping is rude and harmfull to players moral.
i seen players quit eve and i seen player retire 0.0 life because how much time they have to spend in station to avoid losses
stations are safe havens but when you step 1 toe outside station and campers waiting to blow that toe off hehe.
but if it is set only in empire where all them freghters and larger ships can move about with little bindage.
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.16 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Emporors Champian
i think station camping is rude and harmfull to players moral.
i seen players quit eve and i seen player retire 0.0 life because how much time they have to spend in station to avoid losses
Missing the point here I think, station camping is a legitimate tactic, don't undock if you don't want to fight. Siege warfare has been going on for centuries. If you're regularly docked in a regularly camped station then you're an idiot as chances are you'll be camped in for the majority of your game time.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:00:00 -
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your right but if i can kill you and sit outside your station for 8 hours what you going to do? now what if i do this dayly
this is hard fore low skill point players yes i understand every argument but i personaly rather have 40k players in eve that just cant stop being newbs over having 20k players that just mesh well and kick booty all day. this keeps the dev teams paid enough to give us our ideas we beg for here and new patches and fixes.
more players wether good or bad means more money means more growth means more fun
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Phext
Gallente
Klondike War Industry
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: Phext on 16/12/2008 15:06:44
Nice idea.
Originally by: Total Disaster
and miners get an exit port for each asteroid belt too?
Having an undock bay for each stargate pointing in the direction of the stargate is more than enough :p. Additionaly give players the ability to choose what to do when undocking:
[right-click undock menu]
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|-[undock & warp to]
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|-[undock & align to]
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|-- [random undock]
You can select your bookmarks to jump to your favorite belt.
Why on earth should a station owner build a dedicated undock bay for a non-static belt ;)? Thus the belts are static in the moment, they won't be in the future.
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:07:00 -
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If I was in the situation described above I would either:
1) Get my friends to help me clear the camp
2) Clone jump out of the station
3) Move medical clone to another station and undock in pod
While doing this I would wonder what I was doing in this station/0.0 in the first place since I was clearly ill equipped to be there.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:13:00 -
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if you want it for miners as well i have been enlightened as to why it would be helpfull and yes i agree it is perdy sweet that you can undock already pre alligned tobook marks but.....
if you are the artist redesigning the stations with more dock bays how do they accomodate all players book marks they cant so they will have to only paint in dock bays aiming at stargates and your angle of departure will have to vary to accomodate your bookmarks
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:24:00 -
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if your corperation say you must stay there to help defend but you nor your entire corp has the power or gear to repell our overwhelming power to camp you all day...,
i will tell you now you will have negitive thoughts before you lose a ship hehe so give the people a small window of opertunity to get free of station then he is dead meat to what ever camp you have set up.
but im just standing up for the small guy.
i personaly being part of bob have mo worries of such actions but my other account is in a small alliance being constantly pressured to remain docked because goons tcf and red alliance so happen to notice we were there and now they looking for easy kills.
3 titan alliances vs a small alliance and we cant move cuz we have nearly a years time invested there and lots of equipment and a little hope to get a kill or 2 provided we are not camped all day. we lost lots of players to npc corps and we lost a couple cuz they cant stand the sight of the inner side of stations anymore.
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Phext
Gallente
Klondike War Industry
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Emporors Champian
if you are the artist redesigning the stations with more dock bays how do they accomodate all players book marks they cant so they will have to only paint in dock bays aiming at stargates and your angle of departure will have to vary to accomodate your bookmarks
Selecting "bookmark" as the target for undock & jump would result in undocking, aligning and jumping to your final destination using the undock bay "closest" to it.
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Dhejay Centrix on 16/12/2008 15:30:55
Edited by: Dhejay Centrix on 16/12/2008 15:30:28
(@ Emporors Champian)
You just lost any shred of credibility you may have had with the part of that last post mentioning bob.
Aside from that if your small alliance is camped in constantly and can't do anything because of too many enemies in system then can I suggest that your alliance sucks and you should go somewhere else where you aren't out of your depth?
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:37:00 -
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i would agree with you but we have been running angel pirate faction missions and if we move we loseour dignity and we lose our way to earn a little isk and loyalty with angels
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:41:00 -
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because you are asking for game mechanics to be altered to stop you from losing eve.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:45:00 -
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yet again im suggesting this change for empire trafic issues but also in memory to the 8 members my corp lost last month to low morale because we dont stand a fighting chance unless the giants are sleeping
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ScienceOfficer Aracelli
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Posted - 2008.12.18 02:51:00 -
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bothe reduce the trafic ideas are good i like to see 1 or both
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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 18:13:00 -
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I think what would be simpler, and more asthetically pleasing, is that when a ship undocks, it automatically receives an Orbit command on the station, with a range comensurate with ship size. Larger ships orbiting further out. This would make for nice concentric rings of merry-go-round sips outside Jita IV-4, and drastically help to reduce the undock-lane clutter. It would also be quite easy to implement.
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Calis' Banker
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Posted - 2008.12.19 11:39:00 -
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f- that orbit idea then you will break your no target invulneability timmer instantly and before your screen opens in space you will already be in armor or structure hehe
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Solacc
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Posted - 2008.12.20 12:03:00 -
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i have read this post and the alternate post and if both were implemented it would help my freigher break free from trafic jams because its my job to be in high trafic areas.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2008.12.21 14:51:00 -
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this idea seems to be having a positive turn out. hope to hear more positive ans cunstructive criticium for good feedback can make a good working addition everyone.... lol not everyone but a majority will love hehe
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Farseer Zellrenech
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Posted - 2008.12.23 12:21:00 -
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lol i fly small ships and alwayse ramming people haha so im all for it. maybe less bumping and more play!
like both trafic ideas
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.24 12:57:00 -
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i will bump this because i like this idea as i like my alternate idea haha
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ScienceOfficer Eillane
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Posted - 2008.12.25 12:01:00 -
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is good
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.26 15:03:00 -
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not much else said on your post or mine but i bump both anyway
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Iron Soldiers
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Posted - 2008.12.27 13:37:00 -
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sweet idea
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Ineeda Bejay
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Posted - 2008.12.29 00:32:00 -
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some 0.0 stations seem a bit small so placing docking exits in many places on them may be hard but seem like theres less star gates in 0.0 as well
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Xinala Breez
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Posted - 2008.12.31 12:11:00 -
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this would have to be a good fix for the post i made.
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Giribaldi
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Posted - 2009.01.02 16:55:00 -
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i am down for this idea.
good going a very good plan
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Farseer Zellrenech
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Posted - 2009.01.05 10:20:00 -
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i have commented on a simmular post that is equaly as good
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.01.06 09:21:00 -
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need more people outside my corp to give input here hehe
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ScienceOfficer Aracelli
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Posted - 2009.01.07 04:08:00 -
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i see like 7 new post that this idea would fix if they would only read this post and explain how this could fix thier problems that make them post here
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.01.07 04:24:00 -
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Having a conversation with your 7 alts doesn't make your idea any more or less valid.
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Max Queso
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Posted - 2009.01.07 06:01:00 -
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Confirming I am the character receiving the quintazillions of isk needed to finance the destruction/rebuilding/re-deploying all of Eve's stations.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.08 01:47:00 -
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well the stations are kinda small anyway, wouldnt an attion to the stations make it easier
besides when i see my capital ships sitting next to a station you cant help but to think where the hell it this big sucker stored in that lil station that looks not much bigger than my ship.
i think a scale bump on stations be better.
if they bump up the scale of everything i think it give better emersion. but logicly so that it is not pointless
make station appear 10x larger, titans and mommy 5x larger carriers and other basic caps x2 larger, bs 1.3x larger bc 1.2x larger crusiers 1.1x larger and destroyers 1.05x larger
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente
The Antikythera Mechanism
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Posted - 2009.01.08 03:00:00 -
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the stations are all very small, and it is doubtful that anyone docks there anyway.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.08 04:33:00 -
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you say (the stations are all very small, and it is doubtful that anyone docks there anyway.)
whats this? |
SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.01.09 12:55:00 -
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hehe
Quote:
if they bump up the scale of everything i think it give better emersion. but logicly so that it is not pointless
make station appear 10x larger, titans and mommy 5x larger carriers and other basic caps x2 larger, bs 1.3x larger bc 1.2x larger crusiers 1.1x larger and destroyers 1.05x larger
maybe increase the size of plannets as well?
say by 20?
i guess you hust have to allow the close ups of plannes get closser just beter magnifiers |
Farseer Zellrenech
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:39:00 -
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FREEDOM!!! to move about congested areas, can i get a hellz yeah?
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.13 09:55:00 -
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freedom to tease your campers and possibly lewer them into a trap...
foolis noobs think they can still camp a station with a small fleet |
Grigo
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.01.13 10:19:00 -
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this will mean a total remake of station textures...also code for the undoking selection..that sometimes can be verry verry anoing
so i would say no...nice but not needet |
Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.13 10:50:00 -
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shoot dont say not needed if you like the idea...
put them candy poping devs to work for your money.
heck in fan fest they tell you they want you to have the eve the players want.
do i need a 100k dollar car... no but if i could get one i would.
all im saying is the deves got tour dreams, dont let them slip away to an excuse of not needed.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.15 10:44:00 -
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get my drift now.
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Solacc
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Posted - 2009.01.25 13:57:00 -
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i think it would be nice to pick your direction to undock.
i think the gates are great idea but to undock align to anything would possibly be to much but im for it.
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Calis Kreios
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Posted - 2009.01.26 10:22:00 -
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great idea but i seen an idea where any combat that enters or exits a 15 km range of a station would flag the agressor ar enemy to station only and the stations guns will fire but not call concord unless you comit a global offence.
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Calis Kreios
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Posted - 2009.01.27 11:57:00 -
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i think gates might be exempt from this but be neat if it was included
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H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.01.27 12:30:00 -
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No offence - but if you look for a way to escape station camps, just work for it and make a warpout spot with your interceptor.
If you don't have enough time to undock and align to some gate or belt, you should not play Eve...
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Giribaldi
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Posted - 2009.01.30 13:12:00 -
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oooh another original statement about quit eve!
hey smart guy i make you quit eve, how you like that idea?
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.02.09 11:52:00 -
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chill giri you are so agressive on all post, ease up some! |
SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.02.12 13:28:00 -
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wow this post moved 5 pages in 1 day?
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.02.14 13:47:00 -
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seems as tho the post move faster lately in 1 day this move 4 pages hehe
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.02.15 11:48:00 -
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lol spawn stfu with talk about pages...
how do i get my corp under my name?
i see other with thier corp name and i want mine :(
anyone know how i can do this?
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