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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.26 15:06:00 -
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.26 20:35:00 -
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De-railing this thread even further for the sake of humanity.
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Tarron Sarek
Gallente
Biotronics Inc.
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.12.26 22:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Silva Riley
Total dominance of the old with practically no real chance for any new characters to get close to the top and compete with those that came before them. Some claim it is possible, but that is not really the case.
Wrong
/end discussion
Newbs get ganked because they don't have a clue.
This has nothing to do with SP. They would get ganked even with 5m or 10m SP.
And old players simply have more choices. The amount of SP for a decently fit BC or BS has stayed and will stay the same, and it's not that much tbh.
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Kleeborp'T'Retard
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Posted - 2008.12.26 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tarron Sarek
Newbs get ganked because they don't have a clue.
oh?
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.27 11:07:00 -
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i agree that newbs get ganked cuz thier newbs but hell its nice to have newbs in corp for they make awesome bait lol
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Ethic Fail
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Posted - 2008.12.27 13:09:00 -
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oh
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.29 01:53:00 -
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Isabella Montague
Gallente
RUDE Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.29 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme
level 1 you can get bonuses if your docked up in same station
What's the point of that?
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2008.12.29 13:26:00 -
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What's the point of that?
if you lose your ship, you lose your implant bonus for your link mod is no longer in your posession but if you dock up in station with implnt clone then you can recieve the bonuses to your learning this also works if you wanna play outside you learning slows down if your docked your learning increases. but this only makes sence if you understand the post.
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.29 16:51:00 -
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Arrrgh no someone please lock this thread it's not going anywhere but it won't go away because someone keeps bumping it for no reason.
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Xinala Breez
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Posted - 2008.12.31 12:02:00 -
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interesting
there is some thought in this
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.31 12:05:00 -
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#360 bump
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.31 12:06:00 -
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.03 06:34:00 -
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.03 06:36:00 -
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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2009.01.03 07:39:00 -
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spam much?
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.05 10:24:00 -
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.05 10:25:00 -
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.01.06 09:18:00 -
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wow champ you really have a poor attitude on forums and would like to not have it on my threads
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ScienceOfficer Aracelli
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Posted - 2009.01.07 04:12:00 -
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a post i dont really support but if it was added im sure many players would be happy as many would think its unfair so where is the true ballance with implants?
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Astria Tiphareth
Caldari
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowDraqon
Hmm, I don't like this idea. The point with implants is a little extra edge in combat. As with mostly everything in this game, it's risk vs. reward. In the case of implants, the risk of loosing a crapload of ISK vs. gaining a little extra edge.
Except that learning implants don't give any edge in combat. Therein really lies the problem. I think most people would cope with expensive implants that are lost in combat when giving some benefit in combat; it's no different to rigging your ship really - you pay your money, you take your chances.
With learning implants, it's a whole lot more contentious. Some that PvP a lot get annoyed that those that don't PvP get learning benefits that they can't risk. Others view learning implants as a complete mistake. I can see why the issue comes up again and again about learning implants specifically, and why we never hear about, say, slave implants.
All that said, I don't think the OP's solution works. Learning implants could be redone as an ISK sink equivalent to learning skills and you'd get only positive results. Those not wishing to PvP with implants would PvP more due to no 24 hour jumpclone timer, people would spend more on real combat implants, to me it's win-win. Then again, I'm happy with the situation as it stands, but I can see the benefits.
Originally by: ShadowDraqon
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You know what the root of the problem is? You only see the ppl that are whining.
Example:
If you have 100.000 players, and 1000 of them go: "ohnoes it r so unfair i want this and that suks and rabble rabble..." on the forums, then what you see are 1000 ppl whining, instead of seeing 1% of the players whining.
Those ppl that have no complaints, well, they don't complain; they don't bother. So in the end you might end up with 1000 ppl whining vs. 200 ppl saying "it's fine!". That comes out as a majority complaining when in fact it's a laughably small minority. 
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With respect, that's actually not true, though I take your point through the rant. The vast silent majority just accept things as they are, whether they agree with them or not, just as they do in real life. To argue that the majority think things are fine because they don't complain in a given medium is just as bad as claiming that the majority support 'idea X'. In truth, the majority are apathetic, content to play the game the way it is, ***** about particular things that bug them, and never do anything about it.
I've lost count of the number of times I've been on Vent or TS, and heard something like the following 'darn problem X really bugs me' 'yeah it's a pain isn't it' 'wish those idiots at CCP would fix it' 'mhmm hope so' and that's it. No 'oh I'll go post on that cesspit of a forum', no 'I should complain and write an email to CCP'. Apathy, plain and simple. That's in addition to those that post once on the forum, drown in trolls and insults, and say 'never again'. So much for the EVE so-called community.
Originally by: Dhejay Centrix
anyone sitting in an npc corporation because they don't want to lose their implants shouldn't be playing eve.
I don't recall seeing anything anywhere that said that you get to decide what's right and wrong in a way to play EVE. If it's within the rules, it's a way to play. Deal with it. I equally found it amusing that you automatically equated anyone playing as a carebear as an idiot. Grow up and learn that not everyone plays the same way you do, and that that doesn't make them or you any more or less 'right' or 'wrong'.
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