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Vechtor
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2012.04.14 11:03:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote: The reputation I vaguely referred to is one of being untrustworthy or generally undesirable to deal with. From what I gather, you're almost persona non grata
Katrina, when we deal with people's reputations, we always have to take them on their full measure. It doesn't really matter the ammount of kills each one has for I-RED and of course you have them more than me as you are flying with them still... What matter is what people do even if it is minimal, compared to what they can do inside their own limits... I've spent countless hours in the past working for all those organizations, many times relying only on my own efforts without any replacement from none on my losses.
But I know about what "reputation" you are refering to and I decided I will bring some things public on a different thread not because I expect anyone to read, but because I want to make a public record about for myself.
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Jeane DuPont
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2012.04.14 11:05:00 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:Allow me to make this crystal clear to you, since it has become obvious to everyone here that you're thicker than the plating of an Abaddon:
If you or someone else in DUPO anchors the tower, the only people with actual, tangible control are in DUPO.
Now this is weird, because I already replied that we woudn't necessarely be in charge of anchoring anything in this venture. Seems you are speaking things without reading anymore... |

Jeane DuPont
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2012.04.14 11:13:00 -
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Sakaane Eionell wrote: The fact remains: ILF has a starbase in Intaki. We are perfectly capable of accepting third party contracts to manufacture ships at said starbase if we so choose. There is no need for us to take on the burden of a second starbase for that purpose.
Fair enough Ms. Eionell.
I appreciate your time reading my proposition and thinking about it.
Fact remains that your starbase in Intaki is not the one I envisioned because it is not public nor serves public needs. I tried to offer you an idea to actually make a public shipyards with our combined efforts, merging our strengths and sharing the enterprise risks towards something that could be great in terms of services and Intaki development, at the same time allowing revenues to be made with it.
Even by judging DUPO woudn't be trustworthy to share the risks of this venture, fact remains that this was a good idea and you can take it into account shall you ever decide try it by your own means or with different allies of yours, being I-RED or whomever. I really don't care if we would be indeed involved in this or not as I wrote in the very first post of this thread:
Quote: What I'm offering is the sharing of risks on something truly great to the Intaki community, something that would bring attention from anyone in New Eden. Suffice to say that if IPI takes it into consideration without DuPont Enterprises help as I'm offering, or taking other parties help, the same goal would be achieved. In my understanding, a more legitimate one than simply using Agoze CAS station in terms of Intaki Prosperity initiatives.
No one will deny, although, that this would be the first real Intaki shipyards, not the current starbase you have.
My regards,
Jeane DuPont
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Robotics Darkmatter Initiative
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Posted - 2012.04.14 12:51:00 -
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Jeane DuPont wrote:Morwen Lagann wrote:Allow me to make this crystal clear to you, since it has become obvious to everyone here that you're thicker than the plating of an Abaddon:
If you or someone else in DUPO anchors the tower, the only people with actual, tangible control are in DUPO. Now this is weird, because I already replied that we woudn't necessarely be in charge of anchoring anything in this venture. Seems you are speaking things without reading anymore...
Jeane DuPont wrote:DuPont would take the responsibility to assemble, keep and refuel half the costs of a station
Jeane DuPont wrote:DuPont would take the responsibility to assemble, keep
Jeane DuPont wrote:assemble, keep
Precisely how does one achieve that goal without owning the damn thing? Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

Zius Darah
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2012.04.14 13:25:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Jeane DuPont wrote:assemble, keep Precisely how does one achieve that goal without owning the damn thing?
Jeane DuPont wrote:I was generaly speaking. I am well aware of the restriction CONCORD laws imposes on the who can own and use what regarding starbases. Generaly speaking, a joint venture such as this would imply in one of the parts being in fact anchoring every structure and using it. Generaly speaking, the way DUPO could be helping with that would be like buying part of the given POS, haulling arrays to Intaki if necessary, assisting your pilots on what is possible to initiate operations and so on... By keeping it, generaly speaking, DUPO would be responsible to buying half of its fuel, haulling fuel to Intaki if needed etc. The way I wrote at this IGS was a general proposition, for starters, and wasn't my intention to go deep into the details of how this would be implemented, which I believe would not be in the scope of this thread.
Gallente schools need to teach their students how to read better. They seem to be severely lacking cognitive alphabetization. You just have to read what the woman said. Or maybe make your own proposition on how this could work instead keeping the approach of void questions.
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Robotics Darkmatter Initiative
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Posted - 2012.04.14 13:36:00 -
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Zius Darah wrote:Gallente schools need to teach their students how to read better. They seem to be severely lacking cognitive alphabetization. You just have to read what the woman said. Or maybe make your own proposition on how this could work instead keeping the approach of void questions.
Jeane DuPont wrote: Generaly speaking, the way DUPO could be helping with that would be like buying part of the given POS, haulling arrays to Intaki if necessary, assisting your pilots on what is possible to initiate operations and so on
"Could" there is the keyword.
The keywords in the original proposition are "Assemble" and "Keep"
That original proposition is where people are putting their critisism. It seems your school was very poor at teaching you how to read things in their proper context. It leads to you shooting your foot in your mouth like this.
Questions serve purpose, because they're pointing out the things your corporation obviously failed to think about before putting this motion forward. It's not my position to resolve your problems for you.
Edit: Addenum, if you're going try and negotiate a deal with a Federation based entity, it might not be the smartest idea to insult their education system. Just saying. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

Caellach Marellus
Aideron Robotics Darkmatter Initiative
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Posted - 2012.04.14 13:38:00 -
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Doublepost. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

Zius Darah
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2012.04.14 14:06:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:
"Could" there is the keyword.
The keywords in the original proposition are "Assemble" and "Keep"
Questions serve purpose, because they're pointing out the things your corporation obviously failed to think about before putting this motion forward. It's not my position to resolve your problems for you.
Edit: Addenum, if you're going try and negotiate a deal with a Federation based entity, it might not be the smartest idea to insult their education system. Just saying.
I see what you see as faillure as means to overcome difficulties implementing good ideas by bringing more people to discussion, which in the end would be mostly aligned with IGS goals. Questions serve purpose when they lead to better understanding of things, which wasn't your case. Thats why I called them "void".
As for the edit, I thought DUPO was offering help to a Secessionist group of people, not Federation itself. |

Caellach Marellus
Aideron Robotics Darkmatter Initiative
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Posted - 2012.04.14 14:07:00 -
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Zius Darah wrote:As for the edit, I thought DUPO was offering help to a Sessionist group of people, not Federation itself.
They're still an entity within Federal space. Still grew up in the Federation and went through it's system, even if they don't want to be a part of it in the future.
Quote:Questiones server purpose when they lead to better understanding of things, which wasn't your case. Thats why I called them "void".
Sometimes the best way to help is to ask the questions they haven't thought of, then when they answer it they realise their glaring oversights. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

Zius Darah
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2012.04.14 14:09:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote: They're still an entity within Federal space. Still grew up in the Federation and went through it's system, even if they don't want to be a part of it in the future.
Ok you just got me confused: when I said about cognitive alphabetization deficiencies, I was referring to you, not ILF. Are you ILF? |

Caellach Marellus
Aideron Robotics Darkmatter Initiative
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Posted - 2012.04.14 14:11:00 -
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Zius Darah wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote: They're still an entity within Federal space. Still grew up in the Federation and went through it's system, even if they don't want to be a part of it in the future.
Ok you just got me confused: when I said about cognitive alphabetization deficiencies, I was referring to you, not ILF. Are you ILF?
You said Gallente, a term used for both a race of people and an entire political empire.
If you're going to whitewash an entire system you should check who else you encompass within it. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.04.14 17:17:00 -
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This thread just keeps getting better and better with every DuPont member that joins. |

Vechtor
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:16:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:This thread just keeps getting better and better with every DuPont member that joins.
Nah, you killed this thread with ignorance already, several posts ago. |

Zius Darah
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:37:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:This thread just keeps getting better and better with every DuPont member that joins.
In fact I disagree with Vechtor.
This thread was quite elucidating, because it showed given system's leaderships may not be ready for good ideas such as Jeane's.
It was also very elucidating in a number of other issues but I just don't have time nor think it's worth sharing with you. |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:40:00 -
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Entirely too much bickering. I'm withdrawing my offer. Easiest 1 billion you've ever lost.
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Jeane DuPont
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2012.04.14 20:18:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Entirely too much bickering. I'm withdrawing my offer. Easiest 1 billion you've ever lost.
Nothing that a single "Instrumental Core Reservoir" can't handle Ms. Vitalia. 
Still was an interesting thing having that perspective from you. You are trully an interesting person. Thanks again.
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Valdezi
Intaki Security and Intelligence Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.04.14 22:36:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Entirely too much bickering. I'm withdrawing my offer. Easiest 1 billion you've ever lost.
Trust me, my sweet, you didn't want to do business with these people, anyway. |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
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Posted - 2012.04.15 00:46:00 -
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Valdezi wrote:Silas Vitalia wrote:Entirely too much bickering. I'm withdrawing my offer. Easiest 1 billion you've ever lost. Trust me, my sweet, you didn't want to do business with these people, anyway.
You call that a haircut, Valdezi?
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Valdezi
Intaki Security and Intelligence Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.04.15 07:29:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:
You call that a haircut, Valdezi?
It was shorter and more pointy, but time did what it always does and restored it to a more civilised length. |

Jon Engel
Machete Carbide
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Posted - 2012.04.21 03:36:00 -
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God damn Vechtor...
Wardec or STFU |

Vechtor
DuPont Enterprises Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2012.04.22 00:22:00 -
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Jon Engel wrote:God damn Vechtor...
Wardec or STFU Miss you, my friend. Hope everything goes well with you. 
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