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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.12.17 06:33:00 -
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 Originally by: ShadowDraqon
uhm... obvious troll is obvious?
Yes.
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.12.17 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Nnamuachs
Well correct me if i'm wrong at any point here.. 
You were pretty much wrong from there on.
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.12.17 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: NeoTheo
sensor backup arays, and eccm BOTH work, and i dont even fly a friggin falcon.
There's also a gang warfare link that provides a nice bonus to sensor strength.
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.12.17 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Xtreem
Just a few days ago i got into some small group action the 2 gangs were
our gang 4 x bs
theirs - eagle, demios, sabre, raven, thorax, harbinger, vexor , oynx , falcon, falcon, few intercepters.
now we are fine with being outnumbered but we had faith in our dps, the problem was 3 or at some points all 4 of our bs were jammed, by 2 ships that were 150km away, im fine with them being able to jam as long as they can only do so at a closer range! they just need a much harsher fall off or somthing, when one of our bs went down, the 3 of us left were permajammed, although we done well, and won the fight overall they held the gate as eing perma jammed we had to stop and leave, being that we could not target anything lol, they do need to be, re adjusted
I highlighted the fail part.
So their balanced gang, 2x your numbers, butchered your 4 BS with no support at all. Surprise... 
Do you think you'd have done any better if they'd had a couple of Curses instead? (hint: No, you'd have died even faster)
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.12.17 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: HankMurphy
if eccm worked , we would be spared all these ****in threads
For ECCM to work it must be fitted, then activated.
For some reason these ECM nullo trolls can never seem to produce the killmails of their 12 quad-ECCM'd BS which were permajammed by a single falcon from 249Km.
And I do mean never. In over a year of asking in these stupid whine threads, I have always asked for this basic proof and the people who complain about ECCM have always failed to provide it.
And since ECCM should provide pretty damb good protection from jamming, if it's not working, why haven't you bug-reported it?
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.12.17 11:32:00 -
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Face facts - EW is in the game, and you're going to have to deal with it. Remove ECM, and people will simply switch to tracking disruptors. A pair of Curses would easily be able to put a TD on each of your ships, and they'd be nuking the secondary's cap and chewing on the primary with 10 bonused Hammerhead IIs as well while you sat there, able to lock for all the good it would do your oversized guns with 60% less tracking than before, trying to hit anything and failing horribly. In fact if they'd had those Curses instead, I reckon you'd have taken more losses.
Your small one-trick DPS gang will always be outclassed by a larger, balanced gang whether it has falcons or not.
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.12.17 11:34:00 -
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Face facts - EW is in the game, and you're going to have to deal with it. Remove ECM, and people will simply switch to tracking disruptors. A pair of Curses would easily be able to put a TD on each of your ships, and they'd be nuking the secondary's cap and chewing on the primary with 10 bonused Hammerhead IIs as well while you sat there, able to lock for all the good it would do your oversized guns with 60% less tracking than before, trying to hit anything and failing horribly. In fact if they'd had those Curses instead, I reckon you'd have taken more losses.
Your small one-trick DPS gang will always be outclassed by a larger, balanced gang whether it has falcons or not.
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.12.17 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tais
Edited by: Tais on 17/12/2008 12:21:47
Originally by: TimMc
Honestly, ECM is a very frustrating form of electronic warfare because you cannot do much in battle. But what would you replace it with?
For a start remove falcons ECM Optimal range and give him Missile damage bonus. As all Force recons have.
And an extra missile point, and better speed, and a drone bay, like the other Force recons have.
Oh and a nifty secondary EW bonus too. Don't forget that. You know, those extremely powerful abilities that give the other Recons a reason to engage at closer range.
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