This is closer to the current lore assumption than the 1 ISK = a lifetime's pay thing. An old comparison I always heard was that the cost of a shuttlecraft is roughly enough to keep a family of four fed, clothed, housed, etc for a whole year. That might not be the current thinking on the topic, but considering that a shuttle is the size of a small airplane, it's not out of the question.

1. Crew Pay, which we can set and could have a mdofier attached to it based on on little or much we do pay.

2. Fuel cost (yes it is a new money sink), this would add some more realism.

3. Expanded docking services and fees based on those services.

Keep in mind the kind of computer tech new eden has. Wouldn't you be able to automate most clerical/drudgery roles?

I ran some numbers and i would peg my personal fleet at a strength (equating ships based on role and cost and not name) at approximately that of France or Italy giving me some 35000ish employes. At 200 ISK per person per year, this amounts to a piddly 7 million in wages per year. For the record I own 2 capitals, ~25 significant sub capitals and ~20 insignificant sub-capitals (over/under 50 mil in hull cost).

Likely will need to add about 50% of non-ship crew to your staff too. Think of the people who sit at dock and take care of your business there for you. Everything from longshoreman to accountants.

Ships have crews, even capsuleer ships. The capsule allows for the replacement of bridge and command crews and, to a lesser extent, allows for the reduction of some other "redundant" crew members.

As for why empires "train" capsuleers for free, remember two things:
1) Only one school for each empire is a military academy; the other two schools are typical universities that are large and prestigious enough to offer pod pilot programs. Someone, somewhere is paying for it and it's probably not the governments of the empires themselves.
2) Players are only a portion of the capsuleers in the backstory. At least some number of capsuleers do continue to work for the empires directly.

I've always assumed that barges and industrials are comparable to other ships of the same (bracket/class) size, mostly cruisers iirc, as they were not a seperate entry in that table. Crew requirements would depend on fittings, I can imagine that strip miners and salvage modules require more crew than cargo extenders and armor plates.

I imagine freighters are like carriers, but because they lack modules, they probably fly around with what would be a skeleton crew for carriers (700-1500, or 350-700 for capsuleer versions).

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines

I know this is CCP posting on crew size. but part of me wonders if its a bit small. I don't doubt the minimum ship complement size, but the maximum. Considering that a aircraft carrier in modern times about 300-400 meters long has a standard complement of 4000 people. The Idea that a carrier at least 10 times larger can only support about 3 times as many people seems not to quite add up. Particularly since on the Carrier description (the Amarr archon at least) it does note its purpose as 'troop transport.' 18,000 people at most just seems a little low...

But consider this a nerds nitpicking and not really meaningful at all.

thanks for the link, I did not know about it.
Here is some semi educated speculation from a former USN sailor. The crew explanation for Minimum compliment seems to be correct depending on the automation or needs of the ship.
Keep in mind that the USS Enterprise (just Retired) had an active crew of about 1800, fighter wings and crew made up the rest of the compliment taking the crew on board to over 3000. In real world to EVE comparison would put that class of carrier as a super carrier much like the Nyx.
another comparison CGN 41 USS Arkansas had and active crew compliment of around 350 but we could run the ship with about 80. Real life to EVE comparison would be a Ferox or Cyclone

For example, once an impact has hit the structure, they would be the ones to fight the fire and keep it from spreading.

Or the ones that would load and unload equipment when you go near an enemy debries and take what you can. Etc.

As for their salaries and such, probably they earn such a little wage that it could be thought of as being part of the amount of money you spend when you buy the ship. And POS are stations, so they do have crews as well, even if they are player owned. So you just take part of the population living in them and take them into your newly assembled ship.

[quote=Silas Vitalia]There were plenty of spaceships left functioning after the original Eve gate collapse, but the entirety of the fledgling settlements were completely cut off from supplies back in our part of the galaxy.

Isn't it already the purpose of damage controls and hull/armor hp skills ?

This makes sense, but what about tractor beams simply ? :)

I thought that those skills was more for things like: shut all doors for fire to die down, reroute oxygen and so on.


Some of devs said that items from wrecks are delivered by drones, but we don't see them because our camera drones don't show them to us, same with escape pods for crew.

And crones about crews:
about how disposable crew peeps are clicky
about capsuleer industrial ship crew clicky