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Euriti Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.12.17 19:08:00 - [91] I dont know what's dumbest. OP This thread The drake fit
Faekurias Black Legion Command Black Legion.	Posted - 2008.12.17 19:12:00 - [92] Okay, Idea for a drake fit. Mag stabs in lows, Civ Gatling Guns in highs, with tractor beams, Sensorboosters /Targeting speed script in all mids. -> Victory ------------------ Recruiting..
Cal Darinne Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.12.17 19:17:00 - [93] drake doesn't have turret slots. fail. ___________________ I am that I am, Caldari. ___________________
Omarvelous Caldari Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.12.17 19:22:00 - [94] Edited by: Omarvelous on 17/12/2008 19:25:24 HAHAHAHHA Man I've missed some Tiller posts. Enjoyable smack. Anyways - on to your drake. 1st - arbalests are way too expensive to be worth it - spend 2 weeks and get t2 heavies and save yourself 60 mil on that setup. 2nd. If the Hauler is a Mammoth, or a Bestower - they have 4 low slots - so they've still get away. Iteron Mark V has 5 slots... That said, if you MUST have 3-points (even a Badger II with 3 warp stabs will get away) - drop 1 large shield extender for either a 4th point (to catch badger II's) or a sensor Booster II with scan res script. Ships are more agile now - so you want quicker locks. You must be lucky to have a spot in low sec that haulers travel through frequently without a scout. In my neck of the woods, I don't even bother sitting on the gate because a hauler's noob ship alt will spot me and the hauler won't come through. I'm either aligned to warp in (in which case perma tanking sentries isn't that useful) - or I fit a cloak and fit 3 sensor boosters. If I were you - I'd give up on the tank completely and focus on killing fast. Just have a warp in spot 3000 m from the gate - when your alt spots a target, warp in. 3x Ballistic control II Damage Control II 4x Warp Disruptor IIs 2x Sensor Booster II 7x Heavy missile II 2x Anti-EM Anti-Thermal - Cheaper than your ship - by 40 million in rigs and 60 million in missile launchers. So mine is 100mil cheaper. - 4 points. - Locks 2x as fast. - Does 2-3 times more damage - faster hauler pop. You'll tank sentries long enough to kill and grab your loot (I'd make a 180km warp off point - BM the wreck - warp to spot - warp to wreck - minimize time you're under sentry fire). If the tank is too weak for your liking drop the 4th point for a large shield extender. Don't forget to overheat your missiles. If you lose the drake - who the hell cares, it'll cost you maybe 10-15 million to lose. pffft. Get an Onyx as fast as possible. Does this job sooooooo much more effectively - you'll get a tank, more mobility, and faster locks. Solo gate camping is tough because your targets aren't playing solo much (scouts - using travel fits with i-stabs).
Faekurias Black Legion Command Black Legion.	Posted - 2008.12.17 19:30:00 - [95] Originally by: Cal Darinne drake doesn't have turret slots. fail. Isn't drake the ship that comes from khanid? ------------------ Recruiting..
Commander Thrawn Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.17 19:31:00 - [96] omg this tread reeks of carebear sweat. anywyas. tiller how do you lock haulers on that thing? no sensor boosters.
Tai Paktu Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.12.17 19:40:00 - [97] See, there's a lot of flaming of Tiller in this thread. But you have to admit, that this is probably the most poasted in thread C&P has had for awhile. It's already 4 pages after only a couple hours. Love him or hate him, he posts a lot. And when you're bored and on the forums, that's what counts. c/d?
Cmndr Griff Opinicus Operations Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.12.17 19:43:00 - [98] Just makes me laugh every time he resurfaces he gets flamed to hell, must be doing something right. Where do ideas like these come from? Monkeys in hats?
Faekurias Black Legion Command Black Legion.	Posted - 2008.12.17 19:44:00 - [99] Originally by: Tai Paktu See, there's a lot of flaming of Tiller in this thread. But you have to admit, that this is probably the most poasted in thread C&P has had for awhile. It's already 4 pages after only a couple hours. Love him or hate him, he posts a lot. And when you're bored and on the forums, that's what counts. c/d? CCCCC Also I prefer the Minamatar Khanid inventions with lazors. ------------------ Recruiting..
Skywalker Minmatar Darkness and Chaos	Posted - 2008.12.17 19:44:00 - [100] This Tiller dude clearly knows how to hug those bears i must say. Everything he touch turns into a WTFOMG hauler pawning machine.
Pat McCrotch	Posted - 2008.12.17 20:21:00 - [101] Edited by: Pat McCrotch on 17/12/2008 20:21:33 2007 called. It wants it's fit back.
Commander Thrawn Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.17 20:48:00 - [102] Originally by: Pat McCrotch Edited by: Pat McCrotch on 17/12/2008 20:21:33 2007 called. It wants it's fit back. And you are?
tiller Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2008.12.17 20:50:00 - [103] Originally by: Commander Thrawn omg this tread reeks of carebear sweat. anywyas. tiller how do you lock haulers on that thing? no sensor boosters. it has plenty of scan res for 95% of haulers..
tiller Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2008.12.17 20:54:00 - [104] Originally by: Omarvelous Edited by: Omarvelous on 17/12/2008 19:25:24 HAHAHAHHA Man I've missed some Tiller posts. Enjoyable smack. Anyways - on to your drake. 1st - arbalests are way too expensive to be worth it - spend 2 weeks and get t2 heavies and save yourself 60 mil on that setup. 2nd. If the Hauler is a Mammoth, or a Bestower - they have 4 low slots - so they've still get away. Iteron Mark V has 5 slots... That said, if you MUST have 3-points (even a Badger II with 3 warp stabs will get away) - drop 1 large shield extender for either a 4th point (to catch badger II's) or a sensor Booster II with scan res script. Ships are more agile now - so you want quicker locks. You must be lucky to have a spot in low sec that haulers travel through frequently without a scout. In my neck of the woods, I don't even bother sitting on the gate because a hauler's noob ship alt will spot me and the hauler won't come through. I'm either aligned to warp in (in which case perma tanking sentries isn't that useful) - or I fit a cloak and fit 3 sensor boosters. If I were you - I'd give up on the tank completely and focus on killing fast. Just have a warp in spot 3000 m from the gate - when your alt spots a target, warp in. 3x Ballistic control II Damage Control II 4x Warp Disruptor IIs 2x Sensor Booster II 7x Heavy missile II 2x Anti-EM Anti-Thermal - Cheaper than your ship - by 40 million in rigs and 60 million in missile launchers. So mine is 100mil cheaper. - 4 points. - Locks 2x as fast. - Does 2-3 times more damage - faster hauler pop. You'll tank sentries long enough to kill and grab your loot (I'd make a 180km warp off point - BM the wreck - warp to spot - warp to wreck - minimize time you're under sentry fire). If the tank is too weak for your liking drop the 4th point for a large shield extender. Don't forget to overheat your missiles. If you lose the drake - who the hell cares, it'll cost you maybe 10-15 million to lose. pffft. Get an Onyx as fast as possible. Does this job sooooooo much more effectively - you'll get a tank, more mobility, and faster locks. Solo gate camping is tough because your targets aren't playing solo much (scouts - using travel fits with i-stabs). nice post m8, at last... i'm not playing with a 2nd acc atm so this is lazy way.. no alt to spot just balls of steel and knowledge of game mechs to keep me alive... without a alt this is only way to catch stuff, cant beat the excitment of not knowing whats coming through :) it's strange how entire blobs of guys still don't understand gates... 2 nights back I had a gang of guys on my faction fitted CNR at gate, they took me into armor and I sat there as long as possible. then i got the 'omgomg lets all get on kill mail'... I just then jumped through gate and left them feel stupid. eve is a strange place full of dumb people..
tiller Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2008.12.17 20:56:00 - [105] Originally by: Skywalker This Tiller dude clearly knows how to hug those bears i must say. Everything he touch turns into a WTFOMG hauler pawning machine. this man speaks the truth tiller waves
Daeva'a Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.12.17 21:24:00 - [106] Pretty standard drake fit, only thing u done different was put 3 disruptors on it. Revolutionary.
GodDeSs412 Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.12.17 22:43:00 - [107] Not 100% percent positive that it can perma-tank sentries.. but it is pretty close.. drop this setup in your eft and check it out... 7x heavy launcher II 1x LSE II 1x Invul II 4x Warp Disruptor II 4x SPR II Rigs: 2x Shield Extender I 1x Shield Purger I Tanks around 315 dps.. not sure of the exact number of sentry dps.. but i assume its right around that area.. oh ya... almost forgot...
Nakimoto Caldari Unnatural Growth Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2008.12.17 22:52:00 - [108] a little note in your quest to kill macro haulers.... find the ship they are using and the station they are originating from and drop haulers in station and surrounding systems at a substantial mark up. Even rice bowls will not pod travel in low sec. This should substantially increase profit in between sweet drops.
dibblebill Mercenaries International Alliance Overtime Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.17 23:10:00 - [109] @Tiller (and ignoring 4 pages of posts): You got a setup that would work with a gang? Similar setup? I've been playing with the Drake since I lost one to a Stealth BOmber/Recon Ship gang, and another to a 9-on-1 gankfest in Faction War... (In both cases took forever to down my ship) and was actually looking at this ship. I don't think it'd tackle down my Badger (typically carries plenty of Warp Core stabs, thought about getting a Blockade Runner but not worth the time) but it does look VERY handy. ---Signature--- I have turned my back upon the State and their sins. If you enroach upon my freedom, prepare to fight for your life.
XrayZ Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.12.18 06:25:00 - [110] ur covered in failsauce tiller, u should have stay'd in hello kitty online. kthnxbye. --------------------------------------
MirrorGod Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.12.18 07:45:00 - [111] That's a great fit If the pinnacle of your piracy career is knocking out a hundred macrohaulers a day in Ingunn. (can't really see it working anywehre there's real haulers coming through) Also, sink 30 days into an onxy ffs, drake is just embarresing to fly, unless you're using it as a troll-mobile to trick nano-***s into dieing to you. [center]
tiller Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2008.12.18 07:51:00 - [112] Originally by: GodDeSs412 Not 100% percent positive that it can perma-tank sentries.. but it is pretty close.. drop this setup in your eft and check it out... 7x heavy launcher II 1x LSE II 1x Invul II 4x Warp Disruptor II 4x SPR II Rigs: 2x Shield Extender I 1x Shield Purger I Tanks around 315 dps.. not sure of the exact number of sentry dps.. but i assume its right around that area.. oh ya... almost forgot... nice m8, i think on ship fitter you need to show about 420ish dps to perma tank.. a little off topic but... ccp killed the game with warp to zero, they should of abolished instas but made everyone travel 15km to gate, would of made pvp in eve so much more fun. no doubt everyone will cry 'onoes, real pvp isn't at gates', maybe in your little fantasy worlds but thats where most pvp in eve is..warp to zero also ended sniping. (i suspect that was a accident) insta docking at stations also ruined the game, docking with no bookmarks used to be fun and exciting.. ccp, wake up and stop spoiling the game... eve is about risks, take away the risks and things get very boring. maybe it increases your subs as everyone feel cozy, safe and warm.. but existing players who play eve shootemup feel left out in cold. you try to make up for your failings by adding optional faction warfare.. but who wants to play a game where fighting has to be consentual.
tiller Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2008.12.18 07:58:00 - [113] Edited by: tiller on 18/12/2008 07:58:34 Originally by: MirrorGod That's a great fit If the pinnacle of your piracy career is knocking out a hundred macrohaulers a day in Ingunn. (can't really see it working anywehre there's real haulers coming through) Also, sink 30 days into an onxy ffs, drake is just embarresing to fly, unless you're using it as a troll-mobile to trick nano-***s into dieing to you. no i use carriers to kill macro haulers... much more fun. though why ccp struggle to rid eve of macro haulers i don't know, I spot 100s everyday, you'd have to be blind not to be able to find them. i'll tell you why they are still in game, they pay subs so ccp don't care... they pretend to but as long as that cash keeps flowing they don't actually care. drake is fine as a ship btw, it's almost godly at pirating at gates and killing bears... real haulers ? lol, well years back i made billions by just targetting transport ships, used a pair of scorps though, with 6 points between us.. and another ship remote sensor boosting them. (you used to be able to lock down frigs in a raven with boosting before they could warp)
Johnny Gurkha Death Cult Covenant	Posted - 2008.12.18 08:12:00 - [114] I prefer an off-grid Deimos with True Sansha Scrambler should I feel the need to pop a macro
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.12.18 08:39:00 - [115] Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 18/12/2008 08:40:45 Needs more points. [Lachesis, moar points!] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II True Sansha Warp Scrambler True Sansha Warp Scrambler True Sansha Warp Scrambler Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Dual 150mm Railgun II, Spike M Dual 150mm Railgun II, Spike M Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I 9 points of scram = only a 7x stabbed Impel can escape. Get an alt to remote rep you, and you can have *21 points* of hauler killing pwnage! -----------
tiller Ministry of Destruction	Posted - 2008.12.18 08:59:00 - [116] Edited by: tiller on 18/12/2008 08:59:48 Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 18/12/2008 08:40:45 Needs more points. [Lachesis, moar points!] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II True Sansha Warp Scrambler True Sansha Warp Scrambler True Sansha Warp Scrambler Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Dual 150mm Railgun II, Spike M Dual 150mm Railgun II, Spike M Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I 9 points of scram = only a 7x stabbed Impel can escape. Get an alt to remote rep you, and you can have *21 points* of hauler killing pwnage! nice but whats the range on TS Scrams ?, it's gotta be enough so anyone decloaking after jump is in range.
Bai ZongTong Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.12.18 09:04:00 - [117] Edited by: Bai ZongTong on 18/12/2008 09:04:34 I use this to kill haulers: [Drake, Lowsec Stop Sign] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II Estamel's Modified Large Shield Booster Amarr Navy Medium Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Warp Disruptor Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Amarr Navy Medium Nosferatu Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II Core Defence Operational Solidifier II tanks, does more dps, and points better than yours. --- Bai ZongTong, responsible for all the lossmails in my corp.
Johnny Gurkha Death Cult Covenant	Posted - 2008.12.18 09:55:00 - [118] Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 18/12/2008 08:59:48 Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 18/12/2008 08:40:45 Needs more points. [Lachesis, moar points!] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II True Sansha Warp Scrambler True Sansha Warp Scrambler True Sansha Warp Scrambler Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Havoc Heavy Missile Dual 150mm Railgun II, Spike M Dual 150mm Railgun II, Spike M Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I 9 points of scram = only a 7x stabbed Impel can escape. Get an alt to remote rep you, and you can have *21 points* of hauler killing pwnage! nice but whats the range on TS Scrams ?, it's gotta be enough so anyone decloaking after jump is in range. With Recon V and without overloading 22KM... nice but not enough DPS to quickly kill and gtfo, make a superb tackler for a 0.0 camp tho
SunGod RA Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.12.18 10:15:00 - [119] tiller joined mod =[ although with that setup... you should fit right in!
SunGod RA Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.12.18 10:21:00 - [120] Originally by: Bai ZongTong Edited by: Bai ZongTong on 18/12/2008 09:07:49 I use this to kill haulers: (edit: forgot drones) [Drake, Lowsec Stop Sign] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II Estamel's Modified Large Shield Booster Amarr Navy Medium Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Warp Disruptor Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Amarr Navy Medium Nosferatu Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II Core Defence Operational Solidifier II 'Augmented' Hobgoblin x5 tanks, does more dps, and points better than yours. you should sell that estamel invuln and get estamel bcs'es imo!! my drake setup is much better: 7x heavy mussel torpedoe scanner punch 1x offline stupor neutralizer 2x domination crepe disruptor 2x large moose extender 1x thing that glows 3x calamari navy fried salad 1x bbq sauce 5x ham on biscuit serve with tea or rhum. no rigs, rigs are for sissies. it's the thing that glows that really does it!

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