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Idicious Lightbane
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.04.18 16:12:00 -
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Just some feedback on the faction/officer items now in the market:
By doing this you are destroying a certain aspect of the market, as the market for faction modules, especially certain ones was first bound to the contract system. I have at times been able to sell items on contract far above jita prices because I was the only one offering them on contract in the region, while I understand this will still be possible, from what I've seen the market tends to have far more orders stuck there for long periods of time, and the prices are very easy to manipulate.
I'm not sure if I'm the only one who sees a problem with this, and perhaps I'm overreacting but this will bring faction modules into the .01 isk wars which imo is not a good thing. |
Noriko Mai
404
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Posted - 2012.04.18 17:24:00 -
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Idicious Lightbane wrote:Just some feedback on the faction/officer items now in the market:
By doing this you are destroying a certain aspect of the market, as the market for faction modules, especially certain ones was first bound to the contract system. I have at times been able to sell items on contract far above jita prices because I was the only one offering them on contract in the region, while I understand this will still be possible, from what I've seen the market tends to have far more orders stuck there for long periods of time, and the prices are very easy to manipulate.
I'm not sure if I'm the only one who sees a problem with this, and perhaps I'm overreacting but this will bring faction modules into the .01 isk wars which imo is not a good thing.
Contracts are **** for trading!! There is no way to have some kind of price history and 90% is scam.
And why is .01isk war so bad? Price war will bring the prices to a normal level and help everyone.
Maybe you will make a lot more money, because everyone want to have it after they see it in the market. |
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
191
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Posted - 2012.04.18 17:25:00 -
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On the Markets Screen, please look at making the bread crumb trail above the item Title, open the appropriate group on tree view browser on the left.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
176
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Posted - 2012.04.18 17:44:00 -
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Just wanted to hop back in and ask the devs if they have a response regarding implants on the market, ie CA-1/CA-2 and the like. Faction goods going up there, yet some implants still missing, doesn't make much sense given the reason why faction goods are going on the market in the first place. |
Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
14
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Posted - 2012.04.18 17:52:00 -
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Nice to see things are moving forward, but in regards to upgrades to market I think devs should take the time and look more at discussions in the forum "Market Discussion"..
Adding faction and rare items to scc is not really the type of changes market needs. It actually destroys and destroyed a lot of immersive player to player interaction, and it makes contracts less attractive.
Highlighting your own orders is a nice to have, but it will make the micro bid wars a lot more aggressive. I dont know if that is something ccp would like, since that will most likely strain the servers with even more client to server calls.
If you wanted to help market oriented players something as simple as REMOTE STACKING. Is something we have hoped for forever..
Another feature I personally have high hopes for is making contracts limited by using standings. So you would effectively get a way of blocking non wanted clients.
There are many more issues, but I will refrain from to much personal promotion, just a big request that devs or at least ONE dev took a close look at all the requested and discussed features by traders. Markets is a vital part of EVE, and the people that take the time to think and analyse this aspect is over there, the remaining I suspect are not even trying to be heard anymore.
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Endeavour Starfleet
808
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Posted - 2012.04.18 18:39:00 -
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You mean adding rare modules to market will actually mean one cant set up his epic scam anymore?
OHHH NOESSSS!!!!!!
It isn't destroying any market. Matter of fact it should REALLY help the velocity of trade on these items when people think they can buy and sell these modules without running into scam number 55.
The only thing this is going to really harm is the scam artists. |
SabotNoob
Sabot Industries
43
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Posted - 2012.04.18 19:19:00 -
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Hi, I've been pushing for a few changes to make the common Trader's life a little easier.
-Make a shortcut to modify an order. Currently it's right click -> Modify Order. Doing this 100+ times is a drag. A single key shortcut would make it easier.
-Have the amount in the Modify Order window pre-highlighted/selected for changing. Currently, when clicking on an order to change the amount, the Modify Order window's amount isn't highlighted/selected. One has to double click on it or hit Control+A to select it. If the current amount is already selected when the Modify Order window comes up, then one can just enter the new amount and skip the step of double clicking (or Control+A). A minor change, but it helps if you have 100+ orders.
-Have double clicking on items in the Assets window bring up their Market Details. This was done to the orders window, where now you can double click on an order and have its market details brought up. Just asking to have the same done to the Assets window since us traders sell from the Assets window all the time across a region.
-Make a shortcut key to sell items from Assets window and in-station Items window.
Hoping these subtle improvements can be made so that updating market orders and selling items isn't such a long process. Hopefully it'll deter some future bot users as well. |
Idicious Lightbane
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.04.18 20:46:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:You mean adding rare modules to market will actually mean one cant set up his epic scam anymore?
OHHH NOESSSS!!!!!!
It isn't destroying any market. Matter of fact it should REALLY help the velocity of trade on these items when people think they can buy and sell these modules without running into scam number 55.
The only thing this is going to really harm is the scam artists.
I'm actually not talking about scamming at all. Since it will be out the window soon I might as well give an example. After a carefull examination of the Gallente FW LP store AND holding beside that the availebility of the items in certain regions I had one that went for 25 mil a set in Jita, which equaled a fairly normal fw isk/lp conversion of +- 3.5k isk/lp.
After comparing the isk/lp ratio of the item to normal jita prices and checking other trade hubs I found out that item didn't have any contracts up in Amarr or that entire region, and untill other people found out the same and came there as well (which took a month or so) they sold very nicely at 35 mil each which was about 6k isk/lp.
This made contracting a different side of the market, you could really find a niche in certain places that you were one of the few providers of. The fact that the changes reduce contract scamming I don't care about either way since I don't participate in that. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
176
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Posted - 2012.04.18 20:51:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:You mean adding rare modules to market will actually mean one cant set up his epic scam anymore?
OHHH NOESSSS!!!!!!
It isn't destroying any market. Matter of fact it should REALLY help the velocity of trade on these items when people think they can buy and sell these modules without running into scam number 55.
The only thing this is going to really harm is the scam artists.
Quite a few people, myself included, make a living flipping contracts quite legitimately. I source the items that I sell somewhat different from the rest of them (via a forum thread on the goonfleet forums, while most of them use WTB contracts in Jita) but overall it's a similar business model. Most of the people whining about the change do this rather than scamming...although with the prices offered by some of said WTB contracts I could see where one could call them scammers 
Me, I'm like, whatever, I'll adapt. |
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
28
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Posted - 2012.04.18 21:41:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Updated the top post ..., and also the latest iteration of titan changes (which again, are not final)
I just see the same "Current Iteration of Titan changes"....nothing that actually says anything helpful...
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce
Masters of Flying Objects
235
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Posted - 2012.04.18 21:43:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Updated the top post ..., and also the latest iteration of titan changes (which again, are not final) I just see the same "Current Iteration of Titan changes"....nothing that actually says anything helpful...
Those are covered in a diffrent thread
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Endeavour Starfleet
808
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Posted - 2012.04.19 05:04:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:You mean adding rare modules to market will actually mean one cant set up his epic scam anymore?
OHHH NOESSSS!!!!!!
It isn't destroying any market. Matter of fact it should REALLY help the velocity of trade on these items when people think they can buy and sell these modules without running into scam number 55.
The only thing this is going to really harm is the scam artists. Quite a few people, myself included, make a living flipping contracts quite legitimately. I source the items that I sell somewhat different from the rest of them (via a forum thread on the goonfleet forums, while most of them use WTB contracts in Jita) but overall it's a similar business model. Most of the people whining about the change do this rather than scamming...although with the prices offered by some of said WTB contracts I could see where one could call them scammers Me, I'm like, whatever, I'll adapt.
What prevents you from doing the same after the change if you are selling to goons on their forums?
No the fear in my opinion is no longer able to realistically scam over and over or price gouge to an absurd amount without the market correcting them.
This change should have been in place ages ago. Too bad it's buried in a sludge of bullcrap called incursion fixes. |
Tess La'Coil
Lightbringer's Sanctuary
Fatal Ascension
16
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Posted - 2012.04.19 05:24:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Team Five-0
- Behind-the-scenes work on aggression flagging, killmails, etc.
I've seen people posting that Logistics Pilots will now get on the killmails of the people they've remote repaired, is that correct?
Will this work only at the moment they're repairing? Or will this "tag" last through the remainder of the fight?
Someone once said I was a muppet. If that's so, I'm quite sure the Swedish Chef is my brother.-á |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
177
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Posted - 2012.04.19 14:59:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:corestwo wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:You mean adding rare modules to market will actually mean one cant set up his epic scam anymore?
OHHH NOESSSS!!!!!!
It isn't destroying any market. Matter of fact it should REALLY help the velocity of trade on these items when people think they can buy and sell these modules without running into scam number 55.
The only thing this is going to really harm is the scam artists. Quite a few people, myself included, make a living flipping contracts quite legitimately. I source the items that I sell somewhat different from the rest of them (via a forum thread on the goonfleet forums, while most of them use WTB contracts in Jita) but overall it's a similar business model. Most of the people whining about the change do this rather than scamming...although with the prices offered by some of said WTB contracts I could see where one could call them scammers Me, I'm like, whatever, I'll adapt. What prevents you from doing the same after the change if you are selling to goons on their forums? No the fear in my opinion is no longer able to realistically scam over and over or price gouge to an absurd amount without the market correcting them. This change should have been in place ages ago. Too bad it's buried in a sludge of bullcrap called incursion fixes.
We have a very efficient logistics service internally so shipping to empire isn't the problem, the problem is people hate contracts, so that's where I come in. But, buy orders are much easier to deal with and, with stuff on the market, far likely to actually be a fair price. As a result, I have to basically match the buy orders in my offers, and if the margin is really small, it's not going to be worth it to me to take the time, effort and risk (prices can swing after all) to sell a module. |
Azmodai Draconis
W40K - Imperium
0
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Posted - 2012.04.20 10:39:00 -
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Team Superfriends
GÇó Market now shows Faction/Officer/Deadspace loot
hmm wonder how long it will take for playyers to start selling the emta stuff on market as it will be up to us to populate the market with that stuff
ironicly i bet forge region will be were it starts and itll spread over a few months i reckon |
Oberine Noriepa
696
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Posted - 2012.04.20 15:07:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Team Avatar
- There is a new hairstyle available for female characters.
Looks nice, although the new hairstyle doesn't exhibit any physics like the other hairstyles in the character creator/customizer. I'm assuming it's unfinished, or are there simply no plans to apply a physics model to the new hairstyle? |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
160
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Posted - 2012.04.20 22:23:00 -
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I really like the reload MOTD option http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28606 [ is it up on SiSi yet for fleet window and chat windows?
Good feature been getting tired of having my fleet crying for info on the MOTD when I'm FCing 9/10
To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
Reckless Ambition
289
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Posted - 2012.04.22 08:03:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Gotta say I predicted how bad VGs would be nerfed. Tho a little short on how bad it would be.
This is what you get Incursion Community. When your only chat activity is dragging and dropping your fits and not bothering to defend incursions from the mountain of Nullsec lies to CCP about it.
For ****'s sakes, you again...
You do realise that probably a lot of Incursion-runners are the alts of zerosec types, right? And by squealing so loudly to keep your parasitic, inflation-bloating farming unchanged, you play right into the hands of those tewwible nullsecers you seem to hate so much?
Critical thinking, she doesn't haz it!
The invention of ice-hockey is proof that Canada deserves to rule the world. Eh.
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Ana'Gia
Pink Bunny Club
1
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Posted - 2012.04.22 12:33:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Team Superfriends
- Market now shows Faction/Officer/Deadspace loot
Well good idea. But using the search function is giving players alot of data which is not really optimal for fast buying fitting stuff.
So pls had a filter for it. A filter like EFT has got implemented is reallly nice(normal/faction/commander)
if you have no idea what i am talking about then pls do this
Go to market->activate search tab->Type energized adaptive->find the energized adaptive nano membrane inthe big list. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
161
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Posted - 2012.04.22 22:33:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Gotta say I predicted how bad VGs would be nerfed. Tho a little short on how bad it would be.
This is what you get Incursion Community. When your only chat activity is dragging and dropping your fits and not bothering to defend incursions from the mountain of Nullsec lies to CCP about it. For ****'s sakes, you again... You do realise that a lot of Cry baby forum alts are zerosec types, right? And by squealing so loudly in order to to keep parasitic, bloating Tech moon goo farming unchanged by using Incursions as a strawman, CCP has played right into the hands of those tewwible nullsecers you seem to hate so much?
FIXED
Real trouble is CCP listens to the BS spewing squealing crying NULL bears here in the forums proof postive is the level 5 move to NULL and the Incursion NERF eventhough CCP Soundwave rightly said... well read my sig:
To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
Thoraemond
Far Ranger
29
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Posted - 2012.04.23 02:42:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Team Superfriends
- Market now shows Faction/Officer/Deadspace loot
Disappointing to see such a blithe reduction in the complexity of the overall field of economic transactions, without any apparent awareness of that effect.
Reduced complexity and better availability of price information tends to dumb down gameplay and reduces the number of market-oriented niches.
In the future, it would be nice to see a net increase in the overall richness of the economy.
Hint: simply adding a bunch of SKUs to the existing market system does not amount to a new niche. It's just a bunch more datapoints in an existing mechanic. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
685
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Posted - 2012.04.23 02:58:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Team TriLambda
- Amarr Battleships will soon be V3
since they are not on sisi i suppose they won't make it into the escalation patch, right?
a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Endeavour Starfleet
809
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Posted - 2012.04.23 05:26:00 -
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Thoraemond wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Team Superfriends
- Market now shows Faction/Officer/Deadspace loot
Disappointing to see such a blithe reduction in the complexity of the overall field of economic transactions, without any apparent awareness of that effect. Reduced complexity and better availability of price information tends to dumb down gameplay and reduces the number of market-oriented niches. In the future, it would be nice to see a net increase in the overall richness of the economy. Hint: simply adding a bunch of SKUs to the existing market system does not amount to a new niche. It's just a bunch more datapoints in an existing mechanic.
You mean you won't be able to set up as many scams you mean? So sad.... |
Thoraemond
Far Ranger
30
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Posted - 2012.04.23 05:56:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Thoraemond wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Team Superfriends
- Market now shows Faction/Officer/Deadspace loot
Disappointing to see such a blithe reduction in the complexity of the overall field of economic transactions, without any apparent awareness of that effect. Reduced complexity and better availability of price information tends to dumb down gameplay and reduces the number of market-oriented niches. In the future, it would be nice to see a net increase in the overall richness of the economy. Hint: simply adding a bunch of SKUs to the existing market system does not amount to a new niche. It's just a bunch more datapoints in an existing mechanic. You mean you won't be able to set up as many scams you mean? So sad....
In your apparent haste to post, it seems that you missed the substance of what I wrote. I encourage you to re-read my post and think a bit, if these are issues in which you would profess an interest.
Since I haven't, don't and don't intend to scam, I can't speak from the same first-hand experience as some other players regarding that aspect of this change. However, I can see that moving SKUs from Contracts to the Market is not the same as reducing the number of market orders or contract slots per Pilot, so it is not immediately clear in what way scammers would be forced to reduce the number of their scam attempts as a result of this change. You seem more in touch with scamming than I am: would you care to elaborate?
Whether this sort of change is good is a matter of opinion. As I wrote above, in my opinion, it's disappointing.
I prefer the greater richness of more complexity, even though it means that I have to be more alert to avoid being scammed. You are welcome to prefer the dumbing down of gameplay to suit a simpler play style, but I will continue to be disappointed if CCP continues to cater more and more to the lowest common denominator. |
Endeavour Starfleet
809
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Posted - 2012.04.23 20:42:00 -
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That's nice that you prefer the "richness" the rest of us prefer to be able to buy and sell these items on the market without having to open the contract several times to check for scams. (And have found plenty) |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
163
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Posted - 2012.04.25 06:11:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/en/inferno/features/ ", while the time to complete an Assault invasions will be reduced some."
The above quote is a lie. OCF's & NCS's have been significantly increased in time to complete ( who actually tests this? )
NCN's are still stacking because they take about the same amount of time.
OCF's have extra ships WTF?!?!?! how does that reduce the time to complete? Maybe in Bizarro land it does?
NCS's now take longer becuase there are no triggers & short range ships sit around doing nothing. NCS's actually used to be dangerous & risky now they are 2X safer IMHO
To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
165
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:37:00 -
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Why does CCP even bother putting the crap they put up on SiSi then totally eff things up on TQ? The Incursion assaults & VG's are so screwed up right now I can't even comprehend what goes on in icland does 2 DEVs get together after a failed SiSi test run throw everything away then just crap out whatever on TQ?
WOW OTA's are stacking up like NCN's I wonder why ? Well jeez I'm hearing alot of Incursion alts are hanging it up due to this fail if that was the intent you succeded.
Maybe in a week or two things will sort themselves out but I took a 6 month break after Incarna maybe I need another 6 month break after this load.
To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
167
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Posted - 2012.04.29 03:18:00 -
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Currently in the SIB Incursion in Khanid 1 Vanguard system has 7 OTA's 0 others, another has 5 OTA's 1 NMC, and the third has 5 OTA's wow about as balanced as a mamoth & a mouse on a seesaw CCP Do your DEV test monkeys just throw ***** at the wall in SiSi & you code with your noses?
To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
167
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Posted - 2012.04.30 09:03:00 -
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The Incursion nerf has worse then decimated numbers at least in HI SEC. I predict AT LEAST a hexi- to pentimation of incursion runners & subscription losses. Dunno if NULL & LO sec will see same losses in incursions yet.
If last weekends numbers holds up the Incursion community may die in a month... shame to go out in a wimper instead of a bang 
To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
167
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Posted - 2012.04.30 10:55:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/aYOL1.jpg
To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
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