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Posted - 2008.12.20 19:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Allahs Warrior
but this is getting serious. I've been seeing how one guy gets jammed and can't fight and dies, but this one kills all solo pirating whatsoever.
Don't go solo then. It's a MMO, play it like a MMO.
Originally by: Allahs Warrior
So I engage this destroyer in my tristan fit with ECCM, was totally beating it up, broke its tank, he was in structure without touching my armor, and his jam finally rolls a good hit, and I'm jammed...no way to scram him, he warps away.
Important bit highlighted. It could have not been a good hit and he would have died.
Yet the simple fact that he got away means it's not fair? lol.
Originally by: Allahs Warrior
Jams make warpstabs obsolete.
No they don't. You're ignoring the fact that jams don't always work. Warp core stabs do, assuming that the number of scram points balances with the stabs.
That plus if there is more than one person scramming him, then that's two people that need to be jammed, at the same time.
If it's a dedicated ECM ship like the Blackbird / Falcon, then you should already know that there is a bloody good chance that they will have ECM fitted and decide if you engage accordingly.
If it's not a specialist ECM ship and they have multiple jammers fitted, they have seriously gimped some other aspect of their ship. Two ECM's on most Caldari ships means their tank is nerfed as a result. You didn't find their hole, they found yours.
Originally by: Allahs Warrior
Jams make warpscrams only a "might keep him there" button. Even though I had ECCM, by the time I finally break someone's tank, they've gotten ONE good jam on me, enough to get him warped out of course.
So they got lucky? That's the entire basis of your argument?
If he had blown up then ECM would have been underpowered, right?
Originally by: Allahs Warrior
I don't care if you don't want to nerf ECM, but now even one jammer is a good fit for someone worried about losing a solo PVP fight regardless of scramblers/disruptors.
If jammers are that good - fit one and jam them first. If they are jammed, they can't jam you (apart from burst ECM).
Originally by: Allahs Warrior
Solo PVP is now reduced to the winner being able to get the guy popped before his jammer rolls a lucky hit.
No it's not. Other alternatives are:
*Friendly people in the system you were not aware of, or ready to jump in and save his ass
*More stabs than you had points on him
*Been nano fitted and got out of your scram range
*He drains your cap so that your scram deactivates
*He has a sensor damping boat which kills your range
I'm sure there are more.
ECM is just one of the available methods of getting away.
Originally by: Allahs Warrior
This you might call "bad luck"...but now I know I'm fitting a jam instead of afterburner, because I dont use AB on orbit anyway, I only use AB to run away from scram...now I can just hope I jam you before my tank runs out.
Well done sir!
A whine post about ECM, that then goes on to actually adapt to the situation. Makes a change 
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