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Lady Ayeipsia
Morskoj Industries
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:43:00 -
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I am thinking of trying some fun hi sec pvp. I would prefer to use stealth bombers with t2 Torps launchers and a covert op cloak to hunt war targets in cruisers. Is this possible or are cruisers just too small to take out with Torps? |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
769
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Posted - 2012.04.12 16:03:00 -
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Solo bombers have a very hard time killing anything with guns smaller than a battleship's, and anything with drones. On top of that, cruisers tend to be rather fast, and can be quite nimble, so no, torps are not right for killing cruisers.
Torps can work, of course, but you need some form of tackle with webs and possibly a target painter. I wouldn't put my money on being able to solo a cruiser.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1519
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Posted - 2012.04.12 16:17:00 -
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I solo roam in a bomber, but I tend to avoid cruisers. My favored targets are BCs and BSs because they actually take enough DPS from the torps to be meaningful. I've solo'd Hurricanes and Harbingers with a Manticore, and by the numbers it looks like the Purifier should be able to take a Drake. Tier 3s are all cake except the Talos, but even that is doable.
Anyway, I run with:
Manticore
3 Arby Siege, cloak, probe laucher
AB, Scram, Painter, MSE
2 BCU
2 ACR
Overheat the Siege and AB - they'll last the whole fight. Beware dual web armor AB Hurricanes. ;-)
-Liang
Ed: There's a hound that I use too, but I don't have the fit off the top of my head like the Manticore. I've probably got a dozen Manticores fit this way. Its also worthwhile to have someone rock a MWD/2 ECCM/Disruptor Manticore in a bomber gang. **** Falcons.
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Kalli Brixzat
3
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Posted - 2012.04.12 20:02:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Solo bombers have a very hard time killing anything with guns smaller than a battleship's, and anything with drones. On top of that, cruisers tend to be rather fast, and can be quite nimble, so no, torps are not right for killing cruisers.
Torps can work, of course, but you need some form of tackle with webs and possibly a target painter. I wouldn't put my money on being able to solo a cruiser.
This.
Bombers are better served hunting hulks/haulers. BC's are ripe targets as well, but you have to pick your targets carefully. BS killing in pairs/trips is pretty fun too - especially big arty minnie ships. |
Twulf
The Konvergent League
Sanctuary Pact
40
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Posted - 2012.04.12 20:35:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:I solo roam in a bomber, but I tend to avoid cruisers. My favored targets are BCs and BSs because they actually take enough DPS from the torps to be meaningful. I've solo'd Hurricanes and Harbingers with a Manticore, and by the numbers it looks like the Purifier should be able to take a Drake. Tier 3s are all cake except the Talos, but even that is doable.
Anyway, I run with:
Manticore
3 Arby Siege, cloak, probe laucher
AB, Scram, Painter, MSE
2 BCU
2 ACR
Overheat the Siege and AB - they'll last the whole fight. Beware dual web armor AB Hurricanes. ;-)
-Liang
Ed: There's a hound that I use too, but I don't have the fit off the top of my head like the Manticore. I've probably got a dozen Manticores fit this way. Its also worthwhile to have someone rock a MWD/2 ECCM/Disruptor Manticore in a bomber gang. **** Falcons.
I know I am a newb but can you tell me what MSE and ACR stand for?
I figured out the rest.
Also why no bomb launcher? Instead you have a probe luncher (I am sure to hunt down mission runners and the like) but I was told that bombs are very important to use on a SB?
I wil have the skill to fit and fly a Manticore this weekend. Cloak lvl 4 will done shortly. |
Zachis
TBC
23
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Posted - 2012.04.12 20:40:00 -
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MSE = Medium shield extender
ACR = Ancillary current router (rig) |
Kalli Brixzat
3
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Posted - 2012.04.12 20:41:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:I solo roam in a bomber, but I tend to avoid cruisers. My favored targets are BCs and BSs because they actually take enough DPS from the torps to be meaningful. I've solo'd Hurricanes and Harbingers with a Manticore, and by the numbers it looks like the Purifier should be able to take a Drake. Tier 3s are all cake except the Talos, but even that is doable.
Anyway, I run with:
Manticore
3 Arby Siege, cloak, probe laucher
AB, Scram, Painter, MSE
2 BCU
2 ACR
Overheat the Siege and AB - they'll last the whole fight. Beware dual web armor AB Hurricanes. ;-)
-Liang
Ed: There's a hound that I use too, but I don't have the fit off the top of my head like the Manticore. I've probably got a dozen Manticores fit this way. Its also worthwhile to have someone rock a MWD/2 ECCM/Disruptor Manticore in a bomber gang. **** Falcons. I know I am a newb but can you tell me what MSE and ACR stand for? I figured out the rest. Also why no bomb launcher? Instead you have a probe luncher (I am sure to hunt down mission runners and the like) but I was told that bombs are very important to use on a SB? I wil have the skill to fit and fly a Manticore this weekend. Cloak lvl 4 will done shortly.
MSE: Medium Shield Extender (i.e. a passive tanking set up)
ACR: Ancillary Current Router (i.e. increased cap, useful for ships that need lows for armor tanks)
Bomb launchers have their uses. But in PvP, particularly solo or small gang, torp fits are better.
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Twulf
The Konvergent League
Sanctuary Pact
40
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Posted - 2012.04.12 21:14:00 -
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Thanks for the quick information guys. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Morskoj Industries
73
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Posted - 2012.04.12 21:18:00 -
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Also, remember that bombs can only be used in nul or wormhole space.
For hi sec, no sense hunting with a bomb launcher you can't use. |
Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2012.04.12 21:22:00 -
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Kalli Brixzat wrote:Bomb launchers have their uses. But in PvP, particularly solo or small gang, torp fits are better.
I thought bombs can't be used in Hisec? |
Kalli Brixzat
4
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Posted - 2012.04.12 21:33:00 -
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Ettu Brute II wrote:Kalli Brixzat wrote:Bomb launchers have their uses. But in PvP, particularly solo or small gang, torp fits are better.
I thought bombs can't be used in Hisec?
Never said they could. Small gang PvP is not limited solely to hi- or low-sec. |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
192
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:55:00 -
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if you want to go after cruisers, bombers are a very very bad choice.
Anything smaller BC will **** you, and some BC too (hurricane). |
ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
622
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Posted - 2012.04.13 08:20:00 -
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Kalli Brixzat wrote:Ettu Brute II wrote:Kalli Brixzat wrote:Bomb launchers have their uses. But in PvP, particularly solo or small gang, torp fits are better.
I thought bombs can't be used in Hisec? Never said they could. Small gang PvP is not limited solely to hi- or low-sec.
But the title is 'bomber setup to hunt crusiers in high sec'
Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt! |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1525
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:53:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:if you want to go after cruisers, bombers are a very very bad choice.
Anything smaller BC will **** you, and some BC too (hurricane).
You can generally down a shield cane before it does much to you. An Armor cane is bad news bears. Don't **** with armor canes in a close range frigate.
-Liang
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Kalli Brixzat
8
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:44:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:Kalli Brixzat wrote:Ettu Brute II wrote:Kalli Brixzat wrote:Bomb launchers have their uses. But in PvP, particularly solo or small gang, torp fits are better.
I thought bombs can't be used in Hisec? Never said they could. Small gang PvP is not limited solely to hi- or low-sec. But the title is 'bomber setup to hunt crusiers in high sec'
1. Discussions go off on tangents. That happened here.
2. Bombers don't only equip bombs. Story at 11. |
Lost Greybeard
Fenrir's Dogs of War
Union 0f Revolution
8
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Posted - 2012.04.13 18:07:00 -
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The signature radius of Cruisers varies a lot more de facto than frigates (always to small), BS/caps/industrials (always big enough), or even BCs (generally fine, but with some exceptions given fit). So going after a cruiser in an SB is something of a hit-or-miss proposition, especially since they can generally shoot back effectively to one degree or another.
That said, SBs are plenty cheap (equivalent to a decently-fit cruiser in price, generally), so go for it. Remember to stick a couple painters on your fit where applicable to stack the deck a bit, work out the mechanics of what your target is flying to extend your kinda nonexistent defense, and roll with it. Or, alternately, grab a friend, SB is fun solo but it tends to WIN more often with a buddy or two. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
450
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Posted - 2012.04.13 19:38:00 -
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Don't use a stealth bomber in highsec, they just aren't effective at doing anything, you'd be better off solo in an Assault Ship and better off in a fleet in a Electronic Attack Ship. Now if you can fly a recon you should give a Pilgrim a try, they are fairly good solo ships. |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Flatline.
76
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Posted - 2012.04.13 22:42:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Robert Caldera wrote:if you want to go after cruisers, bombers are a very very bad choice.
Anything smaller BC will **** you, and some BC too (hurricane). You can generally down a shield cane before it does much to you. An Armor cane is bad news bears. Don't **** with armor canes in a close range frigate. -Liang
How do you handle drones in a solo bomber? From my experience light drones will tear you up before you can kill anything, and any bc or bs can (and usually does) carry at least 5 light drones. |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1533
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Posted - 2012.04.13 22:46:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Robert Caldera wrote:if you want to go after cruisers, bombers are a very very bad choice.
Anything smaller BC will **** you, and some BC too (hurricane). You can generally down a shield cane before it does much to you. An Armor cane is bad news bears. Don't **** with armor canes in a close range frigate. -Liang How do you handle drones in a solo bomber? From my experience light drones will tear you up before you can kill anything, and any bc or bs can (and usually does) carry at least 5 light drones.
They aren't as much of an issue as you'd think - no idea why. Most of the time people don't even remember to launch them when you strike from cloak and start ripping huge holes out of their shields - but even the ones that do tend not to be that successful with them.
Maybe its the AB?
-Liang
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Alexa Coates
The Scope
Gallente Federation
92
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Posted - 2012.04.14 01:16:00 -
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thats what i want to use for some pvp, thanks op, for reminding me these damn things even exist.
Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |
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