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BeefSupreme Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.24 00:36:00 - [361] Edited by: BeefSupreme on 24/12/2008 00:37:14 Edited by: BeefSupreme on 24/12/2008 00:36:50 Originally by: Avon Originally by: The Mittani 'most of sa' oh man you don't know much about goons son, give it up Yup, I guess you are right. It is always the bitter late arrivals who had to pony up 10bux who know best. REG DATE TROLLING ITT To be honest goonfleet.com is what SA used to be before it became the internet forum version of a stuffy apartment that doesnt allow any pets or kids. There's a reason its the most popular forum in eve. Much better than that ScrapHeap or whatever its called.
Talon Scorpio Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.24 02:27:00 - [362] Edited by: Talon Scorpio on 24/12/2008 02:28:35 Originally by: Ria Sotori Originally by: Nick Curso Surely I would never say such a thing you must be mistaken! Certainly I must have said whining and dining and buying presents for that special person > than internet pixels!!! welcome to the xmas soiree Ria psst stay outta that corner of the room, it seems the cat in the hat is regurgitating Old News again. Hairballs
Captain Thunk Amarr Captain Morgan Society Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.24 02:58:00 - [363] Originally by: Metal Dude Is that's why you only engage when you have double the numbers? In a sea of posts that are little more now than formulaic, paint-by-numbers style constructs (why BoB insist on trying to immitate goons is beyond me - it's so artificial) this one stands out. BoB only attacks their 'arch enemy' when a stronger force is already doing so, brings their pet clunk squad along with them and then complains about being blobbed? I've no doubt goons will inevitably fall with the forces arrayed against them, but they seem to be doing damage and have already spawned Goons-Lite - formerly known as BoB, they don't do the posts so well but they are making a name for themselves in the Capital ship loss and comedy antics department. Captain Thunk
Metal Dude Gallente Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.24 04:08:00 - [364] Originally by: Captain Thunk Originally by: Metal Dude Is that's why you only engage when you have double the numbers? In a sea of posts that are little more now than formulaic, paint-by-numbers style constructs (why BoB insist on trying to immitate goons is beyond me - it's so artificial) this one stands out. BoB only attacks their 'arch enemy' when a stronger force is already doing so, brings their pet clunk squad along with them and then complains about being blobbed? I've no doubt goons will inevitably fall with the forces arrayed against them, but they seem to be doing damage and have already spawned Goons-Lite - formerly known as BoB, they don't do the posts so well but they are making a name for themselves in the Capital ship loss and comedy antics department. Captain Thunk Since you know so much, why don't you show us when did goons won a battle while being outnumbered? Because I can show you hundreds of battles when BoB won outnumbered. Not like it matters to the BoB haters like yourself, but my point still stands. Now go ganks some noobs in empire, tough guy. The truth will set you free
Virtuoso DeToure Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.24 04:36:00 - [365] Edited by: Virtuoso DeToure on 24/12/2008 04:36:48 Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Captain Thunk Originally by: Metal Dude Is that's why you only engage when you have double the numbers? In a sea of posts that are little more now than formulaic, paint-by-numbers style constructs (why BoB insist on trying to immitate goons is beyond me - it's so artificial) this one stands out. BoB only attacks their 'arch enemy' when a stronger force is already doing so, brings their pet clunk squad along with them and then complains about being blobbed? I've no doubt goons will inevitably fall with the forces arrayed against them, but they seem to be doing damage and have already spawned Goons-Lite - formerly known as BoB, they don't do the posts so well but they are making a name for themselves in the Capital ship loss and comedy antics department. Captain Thunk Since you know so much, why don't you show us when did goons won a battle while being outnumbered? Because I can show you hundreds of battles when BoB won outnumbered. Not like it matters to the BoB haters like yourself, but my point still stands. Now go ganks some noobs in empire, tough guy. Aww... how cute! If it isn't Dice, little mini-ATUK, acting all big and bad. You guys couldn't even handle the carebear D2 North of Old so you had to crawl to your poor friends in BoB. "Show me a battle when Goons won outnumbered! They are nothing like big, bad, BoB!" beats chest I love it when you guys do that. So dreamy. Makes me so hard.
Captain Thunk Amarr Captain Morgan Society Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.24 05:10:00 - [366] Edited by: Captain Thunk on 24/12/2008 05:11:12 Originally by: Metal Dude Because I can show you hundreds of battles when BoB won outnumbered. I've seen them on your killboard, it goes back several years. My point was that that BoB no longer exists. As evidenced by your posting, maybe you really believe what you're saying, but if you care to actually look at your own killboards recent fleetbattles then you'll see that in the vast majority of fights, you had the higher numbers. Which is what caused me to post, because you're complaining that they only engage with double numbers when infact they usually engage with less and probably cheaper/smaller ships to boot. Bear in mind they are also fighting not only the BoB Pet Clunk Squad, they're also fighting other alliances such as AAA and whatever balloons they could drag in as pets. But hey!, it's ok you're in GoonLite(formerly known as BoB) you're meant to be spamming the forum with nonsense in a completely zany and irreverential manner. Captain Thunk (PS, ask Avon for advice on how to post like a goon, you're doing it all wrong at the moment and are standing out like a sore thumb - you're letting your team down.)
Zeveron Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.24 06:12:00 - [367] Edited by: Zeveron on 24/12/2008 06:15:57 The only reason BoB stats are not like they used to be is CCP and I am gona explain why later on. Killboard stats have nothing to do if campaign won or lost. BoB won most sov campaigns that I can remember and are gona win most of the future campaigns too. With worst killboard stats but they gona win them, bcs to win a campaign you need 3 things: a) Determination b) isk c) skill (as how to play the game and not skill as sp) BoB has all 3 of them and gona have all 3 of them in the future too. Now as far as the worse stats and why is that CCPs fault. CCP introduced T2 years ago and stopped introducing new technologies. The high skilled players reached lvl5 at most of their needed skills and they dont have anything else to advance, so they advance irelevant skills or skills that are not much needed in combat. So low skilled players or to say it better, players that started the game in a later point had the time to catch up and bring equivalent ships in combat. So the quality of BoB (in mater of equiptment) is lost. There is still a quality adantage in how they play the game but BoB is loosing more ships that they used to. If CCP had introduced T5 (like the begin plans were) till now BoB would have the same old kb stats, but CCP changed their plans, for the good of EVE. Anyway go ahead goons and twist my words, I dont care ________________________________________________
Martin VanBuren Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.24 06:37:00 - [368] I aint readin that
WShatner Minmatar Wonderfull Toys	Posted - 2008.12.24 06:49:00 - [369] Originally by: Martin VanBuren I aint readin that You should. Apparently the reason BoB are losing is because CCP conspired against them.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.12.24 06:53:00 - [370] Originally by: Zeveron If CCP had introduced T5 (like the begin plans were) till now BoB would have the same old kb stats, but CCP changed their plans, for the good of EVE. Anyway go ahead goons and twist my words, I dont care Can I try twist them a little? It sounds like you are saying the reason BOB sucks at the moment is because of CCP. Level playing fields, tactics, isn't that what you you wanted? ___
Reapeat Offender Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.24 06:53:00 - [371] Edited by: Reapeat Offender on 24/12/2008 06:56:42 Originally by: Zeveron Edited by: Zeveron on 24/12/2008 06:15:57 The only reason BoB stats are not like they used to be is CCP and I am gona explain why later on. Killboard stats have nothing to do if campaign won or lost. BoB won most sov campaigns that I can remember and are gona win most of the future campaigns too. With worst killboard stats but they gona win them, bcs to win a campaign you need 3 things: a) Determination b) isk c) skill (as how to play the game and not skill as sp) BoB has all 3 of them and gona have all 3 of them in the future too. Now as far as the worse stats and why is that CCPs fault. CCP introduced T2 years ago and stopped introducing new technologies. The high skilled players reached lvl5 at most of their needed skills and they dont have anything else to advance, so they advance irelevant skills or skills that are not much needed in combat. So low skilled players or to say it better, players that started the game in a later point had the time to catch up and bring equivalent ships in combat. So the quality of BoB (in mater of equiptment) is lost. There is still a quality adantage in how they play the game but BoB is loosing more ships that they used to. If CCP had introduced T5 (like the begin plans were) till now BoB would have the same old kb stats, but CCP changed their plans, for the good of EVE. Anyway go ahead goons and twist my words, I dont care I think I can summarize this a bit more briefly. BoB absorbs those who fail(ex LV, CORM, MC, or Rise anyone?) and their actual decent players had enough and quit some time ago. Whereas most alliances actually improve with time as their players gain experience and skill points, BoB has been rigorously dumbing themselves down and they weren't all that great to begin with.
Martin VanBuren Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.24 06:57:00 - [372] Originally by: WShatner Originally by: Martin VanBuren I aint readin that You should. Apparently the reason BoB are losing is because CCP conspired against them. you guys should have a threadnaught about it, it worked for us
Yarik Mendel Amarr Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2008.12.24 07:03:00 - [373] Hahaha, yeah BOB used to win hundreds of fights outnumbered when the enemy was lagged out. Sorry that's not something we're going to chalk up as skill or respectable tactics.
Reapeat Offender Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.24 07:04:00 - [374] Adding Finfleet was a pro move though. They are BoB's finest corp.
facialimpediment Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.24 07:10:00 - [375] Originally by: Reapeat Offender Adding Finfleet was a pro move though. They are BoB's finest corp. -A- is the best alliance in the GBC
Scatim Helicon Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.24 07:41:00 - [376] Originally by: Zeveron If CCP had introduced T5 (like the begin plans were) till now BoB would have the same old kb stats, but CCP changed their plans, for the good of EVE. I hear that those who fail to adapt become the victims of evolution, c/d? -----------
Omeega Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.12.24 08:20:00 - [377] Originally by: facialimpediment Originally by: Reapeat Offender Adding Finfleet was a pro move though. They are BoB's finest corp. -A- is the best alliance in the GBC EXE is, don't try to make propaganda here son, this is CAOD, not FOX NEWS! Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.24 08:25:00 - [378] What is up with these dice people trying to argue with goons. They think we're mobile pos guns, and you lot think there's reasoning with em. Oh dear!
Omeega Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.12.24 09:23:00 - [379] Originally by: Tholarim What is up with these dice people trying to argue with goons. They think we're mobile pos guns, and you lot think there's reasoning with em. Oh dear! You're doing it wrong Thol, ~oh dear~ is the way to go! Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Captain Thunk Amarr Captain Morgan Society Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.24 10:22:00 - [380] Originally by: Zeveron Edited by: Zeveron on 24/12/2008 06:15:57 The only reason BoB stats are not like they used to be is CCP and I am gona explain why later on. Killboard stats have nothing to do if campaign won or lost. BoB won most sov campaigns that I can remember and are gona win most of the future campaigns too. With worst killboard stats but they gona win them, bcs to win a campaign you need 3 things: a) Determination b) isk c) skill (as how to play the game and not skill as sp) BoB has all 3 of them and gona have all 3 of them in the future too. Now as far as the worse stats and why is that CCPs fault. CCP introduced T2 years ago and stopped introducing new technologies. The high skilled players reached lvl5 at most of their needed skills and they dont have anything else to advance, so they advance irelevant skills or skills that are not much needed in combat. So low skilled players or to say it better, players that started the game in a later point had the time to catch up and bring equivalent ships in combat. So the quality of BoB (in mater of equiptment) is lost. There is still a quality adantage in how they play the game but BoB is loosing more ships that they used to. If CCP had introduced T5 (like the begin plans were) till now BoB would have the same old kb stats, but CCP changed their plans, for the good of EVE. Anyway go ahead goons and twist my words, I dont care Now that's a BoB post. See you don't have to try and immitate Goons all the time? So what you're saying is, everything was peachy until some rogue CCP member came up with Invention which brought affordable ships and equipment to all nullifying the advantage BoB had built its reputation on. Just a joke, you said that it levelled the playing field for the good of Eve. But since Invention BoB now loses what???...6 or 7 regions in the space of a couple of months? 2 Titans in a week? 50 capital ships to the worst players in the game? No, seriously, anything BoB once had has long since gone, I don't think it's possible to recapture it with the decision to turn away from your chosen targets when things get a little tough and jump into the slipstream of AAA - particularly as you managed to keep your capital ship losses up - that really doesn't sound like the 'determination' and the 'skill of players' that you were talking about. Captain Thunk
Omeega Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.12.24 10:35:00 - [381] When I grow up I want to sign up my posts just like you. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Captain Thunk Amarr Captain Morgan Society Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.24 10:40:00 - [382] Originally by: Omeega When I grow up I want to sign up my posts just like you. Everyone needs an aim in life. Captain Thunk
PsychoBones Minmatar Project Nemesis	Posted - 2008.12.24 10:40:00 - [383] Originally by: Omeega When I grow up Try not to take too long, you aren't getting any younger.
Omeega Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.12.24 10:44:00 - [384] Originally by: Captain Thunk Originally by: Omeega When I grow up I want to sign up my posts just like you. Everyone needs an aim in life. Captain Thunk As in trying to get relevant? Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.12.24 10:45:00 - [385] Originally by: Omeega When I grow up I want to sign up my posts just like you. Omeega. But in all seriousness thunk has a point. Bob have became what they hated the most. They use the same forum tactics because they can't counter it. Also lol at the dude saying bob fight outnumbered. When was the last time they tried anything solo. They came at goons on the aaa bandwagon and still had to bring pets after they failed alone.
Prez21 Minmatar coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.12.24 11:10:00 - [386] Originally by: Vladic Ka Originally by: Omeega When I grow up I want to sign up my posts just like you. Omeega. But in all seriousness thunk has a point. Bob have became what they hated the most. They use the same forum tactics because they can't counter it. Also lol at the dude saying bob fight outnumbered. When was the last time they tried anything solo. They came at goons on the aaa bandwagon and still had to bring pets after they failed alone. Ive underlined the important bit, to be honest vlad i dont think its possible to fight solo anymore, if bob attacked goonswarm on there own, goonies would have still brought there allies and it would have been near impossible to beat them. To take space in eve at the min you have to have allies and you have to work together with them, alliances fighting 1v1 are a thing of the past and with the NC soon to get involved bob made the right descion teaming with -A-
Estios Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.24 11:32:00 - [387] Old bob this new bob that, who would thought personnel might change in 5years, go figure. All I can say is using only conventional ships in jammed system and continually decimating the enemy despite them having multiple caps supercaps and 4 titans is pretty amusing. Such utter fail dd's and complaints their dd's don't go off despite their caps dying with titans as top killer just adds to it. Being mobile pos guns ftw So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
Rejected Enlightenment Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Otherworld Empire Productions	Posted - 2008.12.24 12:04:00 - [388] Originally by: Zeveron a) Determination b) isk c) skill (as how to play the game and not skill as sp) Hey look, you list all three things that BoB have lowered their standards on in the last year. Congratulations.
Don ZOLA Caldari Exotic Dancers Club Exalted.	Posted - 2008.12.24 12:34:00 - [389] When BOB and AAA put each others at blue standings and started cooperating i thought its a very sad day to be a member of any of those 2 alliances and that they could have not lived to anything worse then that. Unfortunately they reached new low, they are failing even teamed up. Thou i must admit everything was planned nicely, send goodfellas to fountain so PL has a toy, let remaining GBC and TRI (i doubt they expected it to fail cascade so fast) stay in north to keep NC busy so they cant help goons and go on goons with full power. Oh well, not working, call some GBC, but just exe (or axe? not sure i dont remember names of all pets, sorry too big list :D). And now even that is not working as expected :/. So what are we going to see, even more GBC coming there? Stoping campaign? Leaving AAA on its own and focusing somewhere else, or maybe even attacking AAA from other side if goons manage to do good offensive, to finish at least one enemy since BOB will never trust them 100%, not to mention BOB is not trustworthy lol :D. Only thing i will never get in the whole deal is AAA. I would never expect them to blue BOB :\| oh well, interesting times ahead for caod people :D Join us!
Petar Quaresma Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.24 12:37:00 - [390] Band of Excuses more like it. Play Eve Online better and maybe you will succeed at something unlike the past year or two.

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