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HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
15
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:22:00 -
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I do pi and im getting gouged by an npc corp. 17% is rediculous. Pi is a turnoff if u have to have several tens of mills for a few transfers. People producing p4's like myself have spent huge amounts of isk on these taxes that just dissapear. These components are needed in eve....prices of everything in eve is sky rocketting. Do i want to put up with the drama of player owned custom offices? No way. The new dust game will b adversely affected by this im sure. Fyi ccp: people who play spaceship mmo's arent looking for an fps...what were u thinking?!! and only 1 platform??!!!??? I dont have a ps3 and dont plan on getting one. REDUCE npc custom offices tax or i imagine no one will care to do pi except those who own their own customs offices and this is restrictive to the average solo player. And then dust will fail. |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
1196
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:24:00 -
[2] - Quote
Um ... that's the point. NPC corp taxes are intended to be painfully high. |

Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
224
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:34:00 -
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Great post. bro.
Move to nullsec, put up your own POCO, set tax to 0%! |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3741
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:35:00 -
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We could possibly make them standings based.
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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
187
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:36:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:We could possibly make them standings based.
I really don't get the idea of making everything standings based.
For one, it would undermine the point of POCOs. More importantly, I'm not sure mission grinding needs to be -more- present in game. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
15
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:43:00 -
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Eve is getting prohibitively expensive for the average player. Abbadons have gone up by 100 million in the last year...not to mention plex prices going up 40%ish. Your argument is rediculous. Why not make it 11% like when u belong to a npc corp. Ccp is killing itself. I do remember that moronic apology from the ccp ceo...start listening to the players...the average guys...not the titan owners...geez. I love eve...but i think the interests of the average player is not a priority for ccp. How many companies have died because they think they know best...and dont listen to their customers. I have no problem producing billions through pi and escrow trade etc...but not everyone is as self reliant as me.
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
1196
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:45:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Eve is getting prohibitively expensive for the average player. Abbadons have gone up by 100 million in the last year...not to mention plex prices going up 40%ish. Your argument is rediculous. Why not make it 11% like when u belong to a npc corp. Ccp is killing itself. I do remember that moronic apology from the ccp ceo...start listening to the players...the average guys...not the titan owners...geez. I love eve...but i think the interests of the average player is not a priority for ccp. How many companies have died because they think they know best...and dont listen to their customers. I have no problem producing billions through pi and escrow trade etc...but not everyone is as self reliant as me.
You're an idiot who is completely out of touch with the game and hasn't stopped to think about the reasons behind anything.
Also, paragraphs, learn how to use them. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
15
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:48:00 -
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Somebodys got a cucumber up their ass. Lol |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
594
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:54:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:I do pi and im getting gouged by an npc corp. 17% is rediculous. Pi is a turnoff if u have to have several tens of mills for a few transfers. People producing p4's like myself have spent huge amounts of isk on these taxes that just dissapear. These components are needed in eve....prices of everything in eve is sky rocketting. Do i want to put up with the drama of player owned custom offices? No way. The new dust game will b adversely affected by this im sure. Fyi ccp: people who play spaceship mmo's arent looking for an fps...what were u thinking?!! and only 1 platform??!!!??? I dont have a ps3 and dont plan on getting one. REDUCE npc custom offices tax or i imagine no one will care to do pi except those who own their own customs offices and this is restrictive to the average solo player. And then dust will fail. I remember you, you were in some terrible one man high sec corp that war decced me and some friends a while back, then dropped the dec because we kept camping you into station every time we saw you and you had to run away in your pod.
Anyway, this thread makes me smile. Guess you could always... you know... take down the offices?
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
16
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Posted - 2012.04.12 20:14:00 -
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I have no idea who you are...ive war decced hundreds in my time. Many remember me...but i have too many fans to remember you all. I always fought outnumbered...its what i do. If i bent you over a gate or station in the past...i apologize...sorta...but it was fun at the time lol. |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
595
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Posted - 2012.04.12 20:26:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:I have no idea who you are...ive war decced hundreds in my time. Many remember me...but i have too many fans to remember you all. I always fought outnumbered...its what i do. If i bent you over a gate or station in the past...i apologize...sorta...but it was fun at the time lol. Heh, you never fought us in the end :( it just stuck in my mind, because at the time I found it odd to see someone voluntarily war deccing us :P
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |

Carlton Foster
Stizzy Twins Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:00:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:I have no idea who you are...ive war decced hundreds in my time. Many remember me...but i have too many fans to remember you all. I always fought outnumbered...its what i do. If i bent you over a gate or station in the past...i apologize...sorta...but it was fun at the time lol.
So let me get this straight. You are some kind of uber bad ass master blaster type fellow. But can't blow up a Interbus Customs Office and put up your own?
Reallly????? |

Astroniomix
EliteTroll
45
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:02:00 -
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Carlton Foster wrote:HoleySheet1 wrote:I have no idea who you are...ive war decced hundreds in my time. Many remember me...but i have too many fans to remember you all. I always fought outnumbered...its what i do. If i bent you over a gate or station in the past...i apologize...sorta...but it was fun at the time lol. So let me get this straight. You are some kind of uber bad ass master blaster type fellow. But can't blow up a Interbus Customs Office and put up your own? Reallly????? Doing that involves going into lowsec. There are scarry piwates out there. |

Carlton Foster
Stizzy Twins Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:04:00 -
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Astroniomix wrote:Carlton Foster wrote:HoleySheet1 wrote:I have no idea who you are...ive war decced hundreds in my time. Many remember me...but i have too many fans to remember you all. I always fought outnumbered...its what i do. If i bent you over a gate or station in the past...i apologize...sorta...but it was fun at the time lol. So let me get this straight. You are some kind of uber bad ass master blaster type fellow. But can't blow up a Interbus Customs Office and put up your own? Reallly????? Doing that involves going into lowsec. There are scarry piwates out there.
But he is complaining about Interbust Customs Offices. Don't they only exists in low and null sec? |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
16
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:12:00 -
[15] - Quote
Um..all my 25 planets are in low sec. I would rather just not schmooze with the locals....hence why i like the npc customs offices...reduce the tax...make it more viable for people who play solo. And yes i am uber pwn with awesome sauce...dont forget it |

Carlton Foster
Stizzy Twins Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:16:00 -
[16] - Quote
HoleySheet1 wrote:Um..all my 25 planets are in low sec. I would rather just not schmooze with the locals....hence why i like the npc customs offices...reduce the tax...make it more viable for people who play solo. And yes i am uber pwn with awesome sauce...dont forget it
I still dont' understand why such an uber pwn awesome sause such as you can't blow up an itsy bitsy custom office and put up your own?
Something smells fishy here. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
16
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:29:00 -
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Because i'm inherently lazy. Managing 25 planets for 2 types of p4...a jita escrow trader...and a combat team...My plate is pretty full....put moon goo in wh's and ill stop complaining. |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
1198
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:36:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Because i'm inherently lazy. Then stop complaining. "CCP do this for me because I'm too lazy to do it myself" is just plain stupid. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
16
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:40:00 -
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Next time quote it all...it just makes you look stupid resppnding to your own misplaced quotes....u must b slow |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
1198
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:48:00 -
[20] - Quote
Nah, I didn't misquote at all. You choose not to take out customs offices yourself due to you not feeling like it's worth your time/effort. If you CHOOSE not to lower the taxes yourself, then don't whine to CCP to lower them for you because you're too lazy to do so. |

Astroniomix
EliteTroll
48
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Posted - 2012.04.13 00:36:00 -
[21] - Quote
EvE (and PI in particular) is ballanced around an "effort to reward" ratio (don't give me that risk vs reward junk, you've got a pretty equal chance of getting ganked no matter where you are) If you can't be arsed to get your own customs office, you pay extra taxes. (also if you realy are running everything that you say you are, it is ulikley that even a meager 17% tax rate is cutting into your profits that deepely)
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Altair Raja
Colonial Marines EVE Division Villore Accords
0
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Posted - 2012.04.13 01:47:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:We could possibly make them standings based. I like this, for a 10.0 standings make the tax rate like 10%, 0.0 like 25% below 0.0 stands they wont let you...
Im just making up numbers here also so vote the idea, not the numbers |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
597
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Posted - 2012.04.13 05:04:00 -
[23] - Quote
Altair Raja wrote:Nova Fox wrote:We could possibly make them standings based. I like this, for a 10.0 standings make the tax rate like 10%, 0.0 like 25% below 0.0 stands they wont let you... Im just making up numbers here also so vote the idea, not the numbers POCOs are standings based.
Interbus offices are just there to give people an incentive to replace them with their own. If you must, just nuke it with some alts in bombers. Me and three of my alts took down a poco the other day without jumping a single capital in, so its definitely possible.
Failing that, pay me, tell me what customs offices and I'll take them down for you.
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |

Zarere
Team Pizza Viro Mors Non Est
11
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Posted - 2012.04.13 09:01:00 -
[24] - Quote
OP if you want to be taken seriously on the internet, then you should at least learn some proper spelling and put in some paragraphs.
And as it has already been said: move out to null or low and put up your own POCO's.
You could even do it in w-space, i'm seeing plenty of c1, c3 and c5 systems that are completely devoid of life. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
16
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Posted - 2012.04.13 12:26:00 -
[25] - Quote
duh..proper english? This is not preschool. I learned my english good. If you cant understand sentences that are not properly paragraphed, then u need more schooling..not i. Plkease stick to the point of the thread and dont whine about proper grammar. Like seriously... |

Ildryn
The Inf1dels GIANTSBANE.
42
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:37:00 -
[26] - Quote
HoleySheet1 wrote:duh..proper english? This is not preschool. I learned my english good. If you cant understand sentences that are not properly paragraphed, then u need more schooling..not i. Plkease stick to the point of the thread and dont whine about proper grammar. Like seriously...
D+
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
1202
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:44:00 -
[27] - Quote
HoleySheet1 wrote:duh..proper english? This is not preschool. I learned my english good. If you cant understand sentences that are not properly paragraphed, then u need more schooling..not i. Plkease stick to the point of the thread and dont whine about proper grammar. Like seriously...
No one is whining about grammar. We're simply informing you that, should you want to be taken seriously on the internet (especially on a game like Eve, which attracts a more intelligent crowd), you would do well to learn proper grammar and use it. As it stands, you come across as a little kid who thinks it's 'kewl' to suck at spelling and grammar and is currently having a temper tantrum because he's not getting his way.
If you want people to treat you like an intelligent human being, then you should act like one. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3768
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:49:00 -
[28] - Quote
If you remove the tax I demand destructability.
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Sigras
Conglomo IMPERIAL LEGI0N
100
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Posted - 2012.04.14 01:45:00 -
[29] - Quote
first of all, you have to understand economics . . . the customs office tax is one of the few isk sinks left in the game and it needs to stay right where it is.
Second, your argument that the "average" player is somehow being ignored in favor of the "titan owners" is laughable at best. Specifically right now that the huge titan nerf is currently being put through.
Your complaint that prices are going up is a result of the market readjusting from the loss of drone minerals and meta 0 drops, both things that the "average player" requested a long time ago.
Additionally your complaint about the "average player" leaves out the fact that the "average player" can now sit in high sec and mine trit all day making 11,000,000 isk/hulk/hour
Now the fact that may not be what you want to do isnt really my, or CCPs problem. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
17
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Posted - 2012.04.14 11:13:00 -
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Isk sink? Your argument holds no water.....i have 20 planets devoted to one p4...each planet producing a p2 i require wioth the final planet being a p3 to p4 planet. The transfers are expensive, im still making bills a month...with another simpler p4 in production on 5 planets...im paying lots of tax. This should be reduced as the isk just vaporizes being 'taxed' by an npc corp. With a projected profit of 2.5-3 bill/ 28 days... depending on how lazy i am, 17% of that goes into an abyss for no ones benefit. I dont really care if people have thought of this before, it should be reduced. 11% would be more fair, or the standings based thing mentioned earlier. Hit me grammar pohlice. |

Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.04.14 12:12:00 -
[31] - Quote
HoleySheet1 wrote:Isk sink? Your argument holds no water.....i have 20 planets devoted to one p4...each planet producing a p2 i require wioth the final planet being a p3 to p4 planet. The transfers are expensive, im still making bills a month...with another simpler p4 in production on 5 planets...im paying lots of tax. This should be reduced as the isk just vaporizes being 'taxed' by an npc corp. With a projected profit of 2.5-3 bill/ 28 days... depending on how lazy i am,17% of that goes into an abyss for no ones benefit. I dont really care if people have thought of this before, it should be reduced. 11% would be more fair, or the standings based thing mentioned earlier. Generating isk is what i do. Escrow trading is a lot easier and more isk. but i wanted a challenge and to learn to do the pi stuff..which i have Hit me grammar pohlice.
I like it. Really I do, it shows a certain .. Je ne sais quoi,
dedication?
HoleySheet1 wrote:Isk sink? Your argument holds no water..... ... This should be reduced as the isk just vaporizes being 'taxed' by an npc corp... ...17% of that goes into an abyss for no ones benefit. ...
Please post more ideas as you get all the best answers |

Kitt JT
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
33
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Posted - 2012.04.14 13:44:00 -
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This is hilarious.
While you're at it, ccp can i please have an erebus? Its so unfair that people have put in effort to get what they want, and I'm too lazy to put in any effort. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
17
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Posted - 2012.04.14 14:21:00 -
[33] - Quote
Kitt JT wrote:This is hilarious.
While you're at it, ccp can i please have an erebus? Its so unfair that people have put in effort to get what they want, and I'm too lazy to put in any effort.
You think managing 25 planets with a 2 day extractor cycle is lazy? Do you realize how much i invested in this through trial and error learning the pi stuff also? I have a team of cranes and do massive escrow trrade in jita. And this is just my passive isk generation . I prefer pvp. I'm doing my bit to improve eve through producing high tech items en masse and offer you the cheapest prices in jita. I'll have a titan sooner than you :) |

Kitt JT
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
33
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Posted - 2012.04.14 14:35:00 -
[34] - Quote
HoleySheet1 wrote:Kitt JT wrote:This is hilarious.
While you're at it, ccp can i please have an erebus? Its so unfair that people have put in effort to get what they want, and I'm too lazy to put in any effort. You think managing 25 planets with a 2 day extractor cycle is lazy?
HoleySheet1 wrote:Because i'm inherently lazy.
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HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
17
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Posted - 2012.04.14 14:40:00 -
[35] - Quote
i would like to retract that statement..im lazy when i can be.  |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
608
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Posted - 2012.04.14 14:51:00 -
[36] - Quote
So, just out of interest, high sec customs offices... you can't take these down at all? You get GCC/faction aggro for attacking them or something?
/me wonders how many tornados it takes to alpha an interbus office.
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |

Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.04.14 15:54:00 -
[37] - Quote
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=4318
a lot of them.
Hitpoints: 2,000,000 HP Armor Hitpoints: 2,500,000 HP Shield Hitpoints: 10,000,000 HP Total Hp: 14,500,000
a lot a lot of them.
how much is a tornados volley? |

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
257
|
Posted - 2012.04.14 16:42:00 -
[38] - Quote
HoleySheet1 wrote:Um..all my 25 planets are in low sec. I would rather just not schmooze with the locals....hence why i like the npc customs offices...reduce the tax...make it more viable for people who play solo. And yes i am uber pwn with awesome sauce...dont forget it So, let me get this right.
You don't want to talk to people. You don't want to work with people. You just want the NPC tax be lower so it will be easier for you.
Hint: MMOG. It is supposed to be harder if you don't have allies. |

Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1400
|
Posted - 2012.04.14 17:26:00 -
[39] - Quote
Nova Fox wrote:We could possibly make them standings based.
They are already configured to allow you to do that.
Even to the point of allowing/preventing access. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
17
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Posted - 2012.04.14 17:38:00 -
[40] - Quote
EM are big-time haters since i taught them how to pvp. If i put up a customs office it would probly last 5 minutes!!!! Once again, all my hard work is for the benefit of eve players. Just a small 1/3 reduction in interbus customs tax would be kewl. I could live with that. I like talking to ppl...I just dont like being moderated by a ever changing landscape. You're all bots anyways!!!!! Eve is a one player game, im not even connected to the internet! |

Sigras
Conglomo IMPERIAL LEGI0N
100
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Posted - 2012.04.14 17:48:00 -
[41] - Quote
HoleySheet1 wrote:Isk sink? Your argument holds no water.....i have 20 planets devoted to one p4...each planet producing a p2 i require wioth the final planet being a p3 to p4 planet. The transfers are expensive, im still making bills a month...with another simpler p4 in production on 5 planets...im paying lots of tax. This should be reduced as the isk just vaporizes being 'taxed' by an npc corp. With a projected profit of 2.5-3 bill/ 28 days... depending on how lazy i am, 17% of that goes into an abyss for no ones benefit. I dont really care if people have thought of this before, it should be reduced. 11% would be more fair, or the standings based thing mentioned earlier. Generating isk is what i do. Escrow trading is a lot easier and more isk. but i wanted a challenge and to learn to do the pi stuff..which i have Hit me grammar pohlice.
ok, you dont understand what an isk sink is . . .
an isk sink is when isk is taken out of the game, IE to PI taxes, broker fees, sov bills, buying blueprints etc. Its when CCP takes money out of the game.
An isk faucet is when CCP spawns money into the game IE insurance, pirate bounties, mission rewards, incursion rewards etc.
What you get when you sell your PI product is isk, but it isnt from CCP its from another player, no isk is being spawned into the game.
TL;DR there is a difference between isk spawning into the game and you getting more isk. |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
622
|
Posted - 2012.04.14 18:08:00 -
[42] - Quote
POCOs should be introduced to high sec, and subject to war decs. Allow players to set what ever price they want.
Form a small group of corps to dominate a system, if one of you gets war deced, all join in and fight on the side of the defender. Expand your POCO empire, crush all competition.
One size fits all solutions, from governments, or developers, are always wrong when it comes to pricing. Let the players handle it. |

Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1400
|
Posted - 2012.04.14 18:16:00 -
[43] - Quote
Adunh Slavy wrote:POCOs should be introduced to high sec, and subject to war decs. Allow players to set what ever price they want.
Form a small group of corps to dominate a system, if one of you gets war deced, all join in and fight on the side of the defender. Expand your POCO empire, crush all competition.
One size fits all solutions, from governments, or developers, are always wrong when it comes to pricing. Let the players handle it.
To what end?
Hisec planets are crap. |

Katerwaul
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:20:00 -
[44] - Quote
HoleySheet1 wrote:Isk sink? Your argument holds no water.....i have 20 planets devoted to one p4...each planet producing a p2 i require wioth the final planet being a p3 to p4 planet. The transfers are expensive, im still making bills a month...with another simpler p4 in production on 5 planets...im paying lots of tax. This should be reduced as the isk just vaporizes being 'taxed' by an npc corp. With a projected profit of 2.5-3 bill/ 28 days... depending on how lazy i am, 17% of that goes into an abyss for no ones benefit. I dont really care if people have thought of this before, it should be reduced. 11% would be more fair, or the standings based thing mentioned earlier. Generating isk is what i do. Escrow trading is a lot easier and more isk. but i wanted a challenge and to learn to do the pi stuff..which i have Hit me grammar pohlice.
The only part of this argument I agree with is that isk shouldn't just turn to vapor. NPC corporations & the taxes they collect should have a more meaningful impact on the game, since we the players, decide where we're going to be spending our money.
It's time for capsulers to hold NPC corporations & Factions accountable for their spending. How much money is going to concord to help speed up their response times for hostile activity? How much is going into drug & contraband enforcement? How much is going into our pockets?
I can tell you the answer to the last one -- Not enough!
If they aren't going to reduce their taxation, then we deserve to know where these taxes are going! Working with everyone to improve New Eden -- Internet Spaceships Iz Serious Business. |

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
258
|
Posted - 2012.04.14 18:31:00 -
[45] - Quote
HoleySheet1 wrote:EM are big-time haters since i taught them how to pvp. If i put up a customs office it would probly last 5 minutes!!!! So, in addition to not wanting to make friends of locals or work with allies, you also do not want your PI being affected by purposefully pissing off people who have the capability of blowing POCOs up with they want to?
And this was supposed to convince me that you actually do get this MMOG aspect of things?
 |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
623
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Posted - 2012.04.14 20:29:00 -
[46] - Quote
Asuka Solo wrote: To what end?
Hisec planets are crap.
To enrich the sandbox. If players want to fight over crap, let them. It's not as if people in the real world haven't been fighting over a worthless sliver of sand for thousands of years or anything. |

Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions Solid Foundation
114
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Posted - 2012.04.14 22:35:00 -
[47] - Quote
HoleySheet1 wrote:Do i want to put up with the drama of player owned custom offices? No way. Well there is your problem right there.
Being able to set up a PoCo and doing PI is what makes lowsec profitable enough to live in. And it generated pew pew. New PI is the best thing to happen to this game in a while.
Leave the padded play pen of highsec, Set up a PoCo. Dodge the NPC tax. Defend it from other people who want your stuff. HTFU and play eve. |

Auron Solaris
House Valui
0
|
Posted - 2012.04.15 04:41:00 -
[48] - Quote
How would you all like to see the the New Eden economy crash, Isk Sinks are around for a reason and its purely to stop the market over heating. Currently as it stands CCP is having to manage the economy through outside intervention, that is why we are seeing taxes in NPC corps. So no these taxes don't benefit the eve economy in a way the average player would appreciate. many players expect these taxes to benifit them inside the eve economy, what they don't understand is it is, but in a way which is different to what they expect.
Currency is taken out of eves economy through means,such as IE to PI taxes, broker fees, sov bills, buying blueprints etc. These targets a wide variation of people, so in effect everyone is contributing to the isk sink. NPC corp taxes are pretty much high secs equivalent to sovereignty costs in alliance space.(I dont want to get into the nitty and gritty here, its only an example). if you pulled the npc corp taxes then it would be unfair on the people in low/null sec. suddenly we would see a community out cry and ccp might respond to the backlash by pulling the sov costs and possibly other similar taxes as well. In reality this is not going to happen and people like Holeysheet1 are just going to have to accept this.
The point to my contribution here is that CCP feeds currency into the New Eden Market, but to keep the economy in a healthy status it is forced to keep the economy on a leash. So this is why we are not going to see any changes on this particular issue, you HoleySheet1 are simply asking for an uncontrolled market which will undoubtedly fall into a period of uncertainty where its quite possible for the market to crash.
Since your such a large player in the economics of the game maybe you should look into the economic reports that ccp releases. maybe you should pay attention to these before posting on the forums, but yeah your lazy when you need to be. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
17
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Posted - 2012.04.15 18:46:00 -
[49] - Quote
Ok. Maybe what im trying to do is reduce this isk sink...which isnt necessary. I sink my isk into ships and stuff. You are right..if one of the big producers of high end ships/mods stopped....eve"s market may crash. Right now im dependent on their moods. I was in a class 5 wh yesterday checking it out. The concentrations on the planets was stupendous...compared to my low sec planets. But then i thought of the logistical nightmare as i work full time...have a family...and a bunch of fluffy maine coons to take care of. Not to mention the pi is part of my passive isk generation. I prefer pvp. If you're a professor of economics...go teach a class or something. |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.04.15 20:13:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Ok. Maybe what im trying to do is reduce this isk sink...which isnt necessary. I sink my isk into ships and stuff. You are right..if one of the big producers of high end ships/mods stopped....eve"s market may crash. Right now im dependent on their moods. I was in a class 5 wh yesterday checking it out. The concentrations on the planets was stupendous...compared to my low sec planets. But then i thought of the logistical nightmare as i work full time...have a family...and a bunch of fluffy maine coons to take care of. Not to mention the pi is part of my passive isk generation. I prefer pvp. If you're a professor of economics...go teach a class or something.
Buying stuff off of the market is NOT an isk sink. That isk is going to other players. an isk sink, like PI tax, is where isk is removed from circulation entirely. We need more isk sinks to combat inflation and to balance the isk generators like bounties.
Who am I kidding, you didn't listen to anyone else, so you won't listen to me.
tl;dr, build your own POCOs if you hate taxes that much. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
17
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:17:00 -
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I listen to all..I just discount the useless. I dont have time to manage a customs office network. And quite honestly...i think im so liked in this game that any customs office i put up would be under siege in under 10 mins. Im still making multiple billions per month...maybe i shouldnt try to help my noob brothers and sisters. For them you should lower the taxes so they dont get turned off the game and try....maybe another game? i wanna see eve explode with numbers....so i can sell them everything they need. I remember climbing the isk mountain to the top, missions and mining doesnt cut it. There was some mention made about a reward for work ratio. Ive made tens of billions off escrow trading in the last few yrs...and that requires about 5-10 mins of dedication per day. You just have to know how to make isk. The interbus pi tax is too high and should be lowered for those of us who dont have the time for those things or to build in-game relationships with customs office owners I do however remember a fitting quote : "The world needs ditch diggers son." So..the big guys can mine their rarity 64 moon goo and prime arkonor....whereas the smaller "ditch-diggers" get their veldspar and low paying missions. Class system maybe Incursions are just a cheap tack-on where i have to rely on others to make mediocre isk..please dont bring them up lol. |

Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:33:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:I listen to all..I just discount the useless. I dont have time to manage a customs office network. And quite honestly...i think im so liked in this game that any customs office i put up would be under siege in under 10 mins. Im still making multiple billions per month...maybe i shouldnt try to help my noob brothers and sisters. For them you should lower the taxes so they dont get turned off the game and try....maybe another game? i wanna see eve explode with numbers....so i can sell them everything they need. I remember climbing the isk mountain to the top, missions and mining doesnt cut it. There was some mention made about a reward for work ratio. Ive made tens of billions off escrow trading in the last few yrs...and that requires about 5-10 mins of dedication per day. You just have to know how to make isk. The interbus pi tax is too high and should be lowered for those of us who dont have the time for those things or to build in-game relationships with customs office owners I do however remember a fitting quote : "The world needs ditch diggers son." So..the big guys can mine their rarity 64 moon goo and prime arkonor....whereas the smaller "ditch-diggers" get their veldspar and low paying missions. Class system maybe Incursions are just a cheap tack-on where i have to rely on others to make mediocre isk..please dont bring them up lol.
Funny enough, Customs offices don't require much management, if you keep your prices low, (check the surrounding ones) you generally wont have much issues with the people that want to use them, Because of their upfront cost, its usually easier to leave them up or threaten the person that holds them if they don't lower taxes. it takes less time to talk to them in game then it does to respond to the forums.
Im not sure how lower poco taxes help noobs, but whatever.
you've said it yourself "you just need to kn ow how to make isk" Its not terribly difficult, it just involves learning something about one of the game mechanics. lowering the knowledge threshold doesn't help noobs at all. it causes them to stay noobs.
Im gonna quote you twice here,
HoleySheet1 wrote:Ive made tens of billions off escrow trading in the last few yrs...and that requires about 5-10 mins of dedication per day. You just have to know how to make isk.
HoleySheet1 wrote: The interbus pi tax is too high and should be lowered for those of us who dont have the time for those things
these sentences follow one another so its hardly out of context, but if you cant take 5-10 minutes to deal with poco taxes, what exactly are you playing in this game?
also its the r-32 moon thats the real isk maker, technium is not a r-64. How do the big guys get to be big guys? they work their way up from ditch diggers, the same as everybody else. It wasn't handed to them so much as they went and looked for it.
Mostly, by taking the 5-10 minutes to build relationships. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:39:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:Nova Fox wrote:We could possibly make them standings based. I really don't get the idea of making everything standings based. For one, it would undermine the point of POCOs. More importantly, I'm not sure mission grinding needs to be -more- present in game.
Slight troll there, there is no IB station you can go to thus no IB agents to grind with.
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Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.04.16 18:50:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Kahega Amielden wrote:Nova Fox wrote:We could possibly make them standings based. I really don't get the idea of making everything standings based. For one, it would undermine the point of POCOs. More importantly, I'm not sure mission grinding needs to be -more- present in game. Slight troll there, there is no IB station you can go to thus no IB agents to grind with.
errr, ...
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/npc_corporation.php?corporationID=1000148
I can talk to them ingame, i dunno ..... |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
17
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Posted - 2012.04.16 22:34:00 -
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Assumption about the rarity moon materials...i had a rarity 16 reaction and it was a great payoff. But i dont have a fleet of caps...so some ushra kahn fails came in and asked me to leave. I left, but not before taking out all assets and turning my 2 pos's into (fail) deathstars. Theyre still scared. I enjoyed moon mining....i might not have added YOUR killmail to my killboard had ushra fail left me be. Live and learn i guess lol. |

Gevlin
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
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Posted - 2012.04.17 03:05:00 -
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I recommend visiting low sec and getting your pi there. You may also look for PC owned PI it may be more valuable for you .
The Goons are Coming, The Goons are Coming Jita the April 28, Hulk a geddon April 29 for a month. The Best Tears are the Geifer's Tears. just hope the new crime watch system is in place by then.... oh the chaos will rain!!! |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.04.17 09:36:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Assumption about the rarity moon materials...i had a rarity 16 reaction and it was a great payoff. But i dont have a fleet of caps...so some ushra kahn fails came in and asked me to leave. I left, but not before taking out all assets and turning my 2 pos's into (fail) deathstars. Theyre still scared. I enjoyed moon mining....i might not have added YOUR killmail to my killboard had ushra fail left me be. Live and learn i guess lol.
Now tell us about your kickboxing girlfriend! Did she take the ferarri out today?
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HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
17
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Posted - 2012.04.17 16:14:00 -
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Gevlin wrote:I recommend visiting low sec and getting your pi there. You may also look for PC owned PI it may be more valuable for you .
shudup nub...u losers are waaaay innefective...remember the blue ice thing?..i thought u noobs were doing ur thing in jita on the 22nd...shows how much most of us care |
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