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HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
15
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:22:00 -
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I do pi and im getting gouged by an npc corp. 17% is rediculous. Pi is a turnoff if u have to have several tens of mills for a few transfers. People producing p4's like myself have spent huge amounts of isk on these taxes that just dissapear. These components are needed in eve....prices of everything in eve is sky rocketting. Do i want to put up with the drama of player owned custom offices? No way. The new dust game will b adversely affected by this im sure. Fyi ccp: people who play spaceship mmo's arent looking for an fps...what were u thinking?!! and only 1 platform??!!!??? I dont have a ps3 and dont plan on getting one. REDUCE npc custom offices tax or i imagine no one will care to do pi except those who own their own customs offices and this is restrictive to the average solo player. And then dust will fail. |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
1196
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:24:00 -
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Um ... that's the point. NPC corp taxes are intended to be painfully high. |

Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
224
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:34:00 -
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Great post. bro.
Move to nullsec, put up your own POCO, set tax to 0%! |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3741
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:35:00 -
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We could possibly make them standings based.
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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
187
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:36:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:We could possibly make them standings based.
I really don't get the idea of making everything standings based.
For one, it would undermine the point of POCOs. More importantly, I'm not sure mission grinding needs to be -more- present in game. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
15
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:43:00 -
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Eve is getting prohibitively expensive for the average player. Abbadons have gone up by 100 million in the last year...not to mention plex prices going up 40%ish. Your argument is rediculous. Why not make it 11% like when u belong to a npc corp. Ccp is killing itself. I do remember that moronic apology from the ccp ceo...start listening to the players...the average guys...not the titan owners...geez. I love eve...but i think the interests of the average player is not a priority for ccp. How many companies have died because they think they know best...and dont listen to their customers. I have no problem producing billions through pi and escrow trade etc...but not everyone is as self reliant as me.
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
1196
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:45:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Eve is getting prohibitively expensive for the average player. Abbadons have gone up by 100 million in the last year...not to mention plex prices going up 40%ish. Your argument is rediculous. Why not make it 11% like when u belong to a npc corp. Ccp is killing itself. I do remember that moronic apology from the ccp ceo...start listening to the players...the average guys...not the titan owners...geez. I love eve...but i think the interests of the average player is not a priority for ccp. How many companies have died because they think they know best...and dont listen to their customers. I have no problem producing billions through pi and escrow trade etc...but not everyone is as self reliant as me.
You're an idiot who is completely out of touch with the game and hasn't stopped to think about the reasons behind anything.
Also, paragraphs, learn how to use them. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
15
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:48:00 -
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Somebodys got a cucumber up their ass. Lol |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
594
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Posted - 2012.04.12 19:54:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:I do pi and im getting gouged by an npc corp. 17% is rediculous. Pi is a turnoff if u have to have several tens of mills for a few transfers. People producing p4's like myself have spent huge amounts of isk on these taxes that just dissapear. These components are needed in eve....prices of everything in eve is sky rocketting. Do i want to put up with the drama of player owned custom offices? No way. The new dust game will b adversely affected by this im sure. Fyi ccp: people who play spaceship mmo's arent looking for an fps...what were u thinking?!! and only 1 platform??!!!??? I dont have a ps3 and dont plan on getting one. REDUCE npc custom offices tax or i imagine no one will care to do pi except those who own their own customs offices and this is restrictive to the average solo player. And then dust will fail. I remember you, you were in some terrible one man high sec corp that war decced me and some friends a while back, then dropped the dec because we kept camping you into station every time we saw you and you had to run away in your pod.
Anyway, this thread makes me smile. Guess you could always... you know... take down the offices?
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
16
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Posted - 2012.04.12 20:14:00 -
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I have no idea who you are...ive war decced hundreds in my time. Many remember me...but i have too many fans to remember you all. I always fought outnumbered...its what i do. If i bent you over a gate or station in the past...i apologize...sorta...but it was fun at the time lol. |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
595
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Posted - 2012.04.12 20:26:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:I have no idea who you are...ive war decced hundreds in my time. Many remember me...but i have too many fans to remember you all. I always fought outnumbered...its what i do. If i bent you over a gate or station in the past...i apologize...sorta...but it was fun at the time lol. Heh, you never fought us in the end :( it just stuck in my mind, because at the time I found it odd to see someone voluntarily war deccing us :P
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |

Carlton Foster
Stizzy Twins Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:00:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:I have no idea who you are...ive war decced hundreds in my time. Many remember me...but i have too many fans to remember you all. I always fought outnumbered...its what i do. If i bent you over a gate or station in the past...i apologize...sorta...but it was fun at the time lol.
So let me get this straight. You are some kind of uber bad ass master blaster type fellow. But can't blow up a Interbus Customs Office and put up your own?
Reallly????? |

Astroniomix
EliteTroll
45
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:02:00 -
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Carlton Foster wrote:HoleySheet1 wrote:I have no idea who you are...ive war decced hundreds in my time. Many remember me...but i have too many fans to remember you all. I always fought outnumbered...its what i do. If i bent you over a gate or station in the past...i apologize...sorta...but it was fun at the time lol. So let me get this straight. You are some kind of uber bad ass master blaster type fellow. But can't blow up a Interbus Customs Office and put up your own? Reallly????? Doing that involves going into lowsec. There are scarry piwates out there. |

Carlton Foster
Stizzy Twins Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:04:00 -
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Astroniomix wrote:Carlton Foster wrote:HoleySheet1 wrote:I have no idea who you are...ive war decced hundreds in my time. Many remember me...but i have too many fans to remember you all. I always fought outnumbered...its what i do. If i bent you over a gate or station in the past...i apologize...sorta...but it was fun at the time lol. So let me get this straight. You are some kind of uber bad ass master blaster type fellow. But can't blow up a Interbus Customs Office and put up your own? Reallly????? Doing that involves going into lowsec. There are scarry piwates out there.
But he is complaining about Interbust Customs Offices. Don't they only exists in low and null sec? |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
16
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:12:00 -
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Um..all my 25 planets are in low sec. I would rather just not schmooze with the locals....hence why i like the npc customs offices...reduce the tax...make it more viable for people who play solo. And yes i am uber pwn with awesome sauce...dont forget it |

Carlton Foster
Stizzy Twins Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:16:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Um..all my 25 planets are in low sec. I would rather just not schmooze with the locals....hence why i like the npc customs offices...reduce the tax...make it more viable for people who play solo. And yes i am uber pwn with awesome sauce...dont forget it
I still dont' understand why such an uber pwn awesome sause such as you can't blow up an itsy bitsy custom office and put up your own?
Something smells fishy here. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
16
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:29:00 -
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Because i'm inherently lazy. Managing 25 planets for 2 types of p4...a jita escrow trader...and a combat team...My plate is pretty full....put moon goo in wh's and ill stop complaining. |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
1198
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:36:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:Because i'm inherently lazy. Then stop complaining. "CCP do this for me because I'm too lazy to do it myself" is just plain stupid. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
16
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:40:00 -
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Next time quote it all...it just makes you look stupid resppnding to your own misplaced quotes....u must b slow |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
1198
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Posted - 2012.04.12 22:48:00 -
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Nah, I didn't misquote at all. You choose not to take out customs offices yourself due to you not feeling like it's worth your time/effort. If you CHOOSE not to lower the taxes yourself, then don't whine to CCP to lower them for you because you're too lazy to do so. |

Astroniomix
EliteTroll
48
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Posted - 2012.04.13 00:36:00 -
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EvE (and PI in particular) is ballanced around an "effort to reward" ratio (don't give me that risk vs reward junk, you've got a pretty equal chance of getting ganked no matter where you are) If you can't be arsed to get your own customs office, you pay extra taxes. (also if you realy are running everything that you say you are, it is ulikley that even a meager 17% tax rate is cutting into your profits that deepely)
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Altair Raja
Colonial Marines EVE Division Villore Accords
0
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Posted - 2012.04.13 01:47:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:We could possibly make them standings based. I like this, for a 10.0 standings make the tax rate like 10%, 0.0 like 25% below 0.0 stands they wont let you...
Im just making up numbers here also so vote the idea, not the numbers |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
597
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Posted - 2012.04.13 05:04:00 -
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Altair Raja wrote:Nova Fox wrote:We could possibly make them standings based. I like this, for a 10.0 standings make the tax rate like 10%, 0.0 like 25% below 0.0 stands they wont let you... Im just making up numbers here also so vote the idea, not the numbers POCOs are standings based.
Interbus offices are just there to give people an incentive to replace them with their own. If you must, just nuke it with some alts in bombers. Me and three of my alts took down a poco the other day without jumping a single capital in, so its definitely possible.
Failing that, pay me, tell me what customs offices and I'll take them down for you.
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |

Zarere
Team Pizza Viro Mors Non Est
11
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Posted - 2012.04.13 09:01:00 -
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OP if you want to be taken seriously on the internet, then you should at least learn some proper spelling and put in some paragraphs.
And as it has already been said: move out to null or low and put up your own POCO's.
You could even do it in w-space, i'm seeing plenty of c1, c3 and c5 systems that are completely devoid of life. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
16
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Posted - 2012.04.13 12:26:00 -
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duh..proper english? This is not preschool. I learned my english good. If you cant understand sentences that are not properly paragraphed, then u need more schooling..not i. Plkease stick to the point of the thread and dont whine about proper grammar. Like seriously... |

Ildryn
The Inf1dels GIANTSBANE.
42
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:37:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:duh..proper english? This is not preschool. I learned my english good. If you cant understand sentences that are not properly paragraphed, then u need more schooling..not i. Plkease stick to the point of the thread and dont whine about proper grammar. Like seriously...
D+
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
1202
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:44:00 -
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HoleySheet1 wrote:duh..proper english? This is not preschool. I learned my english good. If you cant understand sentences that are not properly paragraphed, then u need more schooling..not i. Plkease stick to the point of the thread and dont whine about proper grammar. Like seriously...
No one is whining about grammar. We're simply informing you that, should you want to be taken seriously on the internet (especially on a game like Eve, which attracts a more intelligent crowd), you would do well to learn proper grammar and use it. As it stands, you come across as a little kid who thinks it's 'kewl' to suck at spelling and grammar and is currently having a temper tantrum because he's not getting his way.
If you want people to treat you like an intelligent human being, then you should act like one. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3768
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:49:00 -
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If you remove the tax I demand destructability.
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Sigras
Conglomo IMPERIAL LEGI0N
100
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Posted - 2012.04.14 01:45:00 -
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first of all, you have to understand economics . . . the customs office tax is one of the few isk sinks left in the game and it needs to stay right where it is.
Second, your argument that the "average" player is somehow being ignored in favor of the "titan owners" is laughable at best. Specifically right now that the huge titan nerf is currently being put through.
Your complaint that prices are going up is a result of the market readjusting from the loss of drone minerals and meta 0 drops, both things that the "average player" requested a long time ago.
Additionally your complaint about the "average player" leaves out the fact that the "average player" can now sit in high sec and mine trit all day making 11,000,000 isk/hulk/hour
Now the fact that may not be what you want to do isnt really my, or CCPs problem. |

HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada
17
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Posted - 2012.04.14 11:13:00 -
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Isk sink? Your argument holds no water.....i have 20 planets devoted to one p4...each planet producing a p2 i require wioth the final planet being a p3 to p4 planet. The transfers are expensive, im still making bills a month...with another simpler p4 in production on 5 planets...im paying lots of tax. This should be reduced as the isk just vaporizes being 'taxed' by an npc corp. With a projected profit of 2.5-3 bill/ 28 days... depending on how lazy i am, 17% of that goes into an abyss for no ones benefit. I dont really care if people have thought of this before, it should be reduced. 11% would be more fair, or the standings based thing mentioned earlier. Hit me grammar pohlice. |
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