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Amma Kudalkar Amarr The Freelanders	Posted - 2008.12.21 13:14:00 - [1] Well being a holiday today, I just opened Evemon and started fiddling with it. The outcome of that excersize is as below. Moros BS/BC Ganker: Highs : 3 Ion Seige Blaster Cannon 1 : 1 Seige Module Meds : 5 Gallentte Navy Tracking Computer(Tracking Script) Lows : 1 Damage Control 2 1 Amarr Navy Explosive Hardner 2 Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 3 Gallentte Navy Magnetic Stabilizers Rigs : 3 Trimarks 1 or 2 Drones: 5 Berzerker 2, 5 Heavy Armour Maintenance 2, 5 Webber Drones, 5 Target Painter Drones. It gives a turret tracking speed of 0.0049, a damage mod of 121.85 and ROF of 6.5 secs. Overall DPS of 3141 with Alpha of 14622 and Optimum of 24 Km + 25 km Falloff with Iron. With AM the DPS shoots to 6276 with 35092 Alpha and 7.5 Optimum + 25 km Falloff. Good overall resists of 70% +. The team members would include 4 Dominix each carrying 5 Heavy Armour Mainetnance 2, 5 Orge 2 and 5 Berzerker 2. They would each have MWD and a good Tackle gear in mid. Highs would be 4 Neut and 2 Nos. Lows would be good strong tank. The Moros would sit and enter seige mode around center of gate so that the range need not be a limiting factor. Domis would basically be for Tackling and Repairing the Moros with drones. Will add some DPS incase a group of BS enters the scene. Will have alts of all on other side of Gate and on the other side of all Gates to that system to check for any major hostilities. What say buddies? God Bless you All.
Aineko Stryer Minmatar Aineko Accelerando Labs	Posted - 2008.12.21 13:18:00 - [2] Sounds like a fail to me. Guns won¦t hit ****. 5 Domis as support? Better change one or two for a gank BS and you don¦t even need the Moros.
Superfailsauce Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.12.21 13:20:00 - [3] Looks like an excellent idea. Moros is the best dread for taking down sub caps, may I suggest that your supporting domis fit plenty of webs and target painters. ------- Larkonis' Alt, main got banned.
Amma Kudalkar Amarr The Freelanders	Posted - 2008.12.21 13:23:00 - [4] Edited by: Amma Kudalkar on 21/12/2008 13:23:49 Originally by: Aineko Stryer Sounds like a fail to me. Guns won¦t hit **. 5 Domis as support? Better change one or two for a gank BS and you don¦t even need the Moros. The advantage of Moros is an EHP of 3 million + and a DPS of 6.5k wth 35 k alpha. The Tracking of the guns is better than Tachyon beam 2 with Aurora crystal. God Bless you All.**
Aineko Stryer Minmatar Aineko Accelerando Labs	Posted - 2008.12.21 13:24:00 - [5] Have you actually tried hitting anything that moves at all post-QR? Even 4 webs on a target aren¦t enough...perhaps some target-painters would help, but I still doubt, that you¦ll get some good hits.
Neyro7830 Gallente Stormfront A.W. Stormfront J.U.N.T.A.	Posted - 2008.12.21 13:24:00 - [6] Originally by: Amma Kudalkar Originally by: Aineko Stryer Sounds like a fail to me. Guns won¦t hit ****. 5 Domis as support? Better change one or two for a gank BS and you don¦t even need the Moros. The advantage of Moros is an EHP of 3 million + and a DPS of 6.5k wth 35 k alpha. It also looks like a super domi on steroids. ___ I cannot be held responsible for the above post, because apparently,my cat has learned to type. :3
Aineko Stryer Minmatar Aineko Accelerando Labs	Posted - 2008.12.21 13:28:00 - [7] Edited by: Aineko Stryer on 21/12/2008 13:29:53 I think, that tracking is not that much of a problem. Cap blaster Signature Resolution is. (edited for spelling)
Amma Kudalkar Amarr The Freelanders	Posted - 2008.12.21 13:42:00 - [8] Originally by: Aineko Stryer Edited by: Aineko Stryer on 21/12/2008 13:29:53 I think, that tracking is not that much of a problem. Cap blaster Signature Resolution is. (edited for spelling) The 5 TP drones of Moros can effectively increase the sig radius by 1.2 times each; so effectively by a factor of 6 (Not sure of this but based on the stats seems like it) God Bless you All.
Aeo IV Amarr Xomic OmniCorporation	Posted - 2008.12.21 14:09:00 - [9] Wouldn't it make more sense to sit far, far away and snipe?
Zhilia Mann	Posted - 2008.12.21 14:21:00 - [10] Originally by: Amma Kudalkar The 5 TP drones of Moros can effectively increase the sig radius by 1.2 times each; so effectively by a factor of 6 (Not sure of this but based on the stats seems like it) Remember how mods apply (and this is without stacking nerfs, even). It's not 1.2*5, it's 1.2^5. That is, not 6, more like 2.49. Not enough for cap guns to really do much, I'm afraid. If you absolutely insist on using a Moros on a gate, think about sentry drones. More feasible: don't use a Moros on a gate.
Furb Killer Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.12.21 14:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Amma Kudalkar Originally by: Aineko Stryer Edited by: Aineko Stryer on 21/12/2008 13:29:53 I think, that tracking is not that much of a problem. Cap blaster Signature Resolution is. (edited for spelling) The 5 TP drones of Moros can effectively increase the sig radius by 1.2 times each; so effectively by a factor of 6 (Not sure of this but based on the stats seems like it) Math fail detected. Assuming your 1.2 is true, the result of 5 of them would be an increase of roughly 70% in sig radius. I agree you should use this, results in nice comedy killmails and a waste of drones to sentry fire. --------------------------------------------- Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
BiggestT Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.12.21 14:29:00 - [12] If i were u id just bring a domi. Cany any one say "Carrier hotdrop?" EVE history t2 precisions
z0de Gallente The Bastards The Bastards.	Posted - 2008.12.21 14:34:00 - [13] Edited by: z0de on 21/12/2008 14:34:33 Originally by: BiggestT If i were u id just bring a domi. Cany any one say "Carrier hotdrop?" lol Carrier, you just gave him a reason to use a dread for this.
RedSplat Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.12.21 14:35:00 - [14] Bring a Nagalfar There was even talk of French toast But there was none to be had
Rajere No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.21 14:39:00 - [15] Edited by: Rajere on 21/12/2008 14:44:39 Cannot be remote repped while in siege mode so wasting the domi's drone bays with armor rep drones. THE reason the moros is the sub-capital ship kill is it's Drone bonus and god how you are wasting it's drone bay with repping, webbing, target painting drones. You want to sit on a gate like that (your funeral) Here's a hint, Garde II's. Fit Large (non Capital) Railguns with FN Antimatter, fit a Capital Remote Armor Rep in the last highslot (not a siege mode). Then go die on a gate, but atleast you'll take down alot of battleships while you die, and if you are being supported by 5 domi's, their drones will actually be useful. Quote: The advantage of Moros is an EHP of 3 million + and a DPS of 6.5k wth 35 k alpha. The Tracking of the guns is better than Tachyon beam 2 with Aurora crystal. You have no idea how turret tracking works, do you? Do you know the difference between a tachyon beam with Aurora vs Ion Siege Blaster Cannons, even ignoring Signature Resolutions? about 200km range. -------------------------- NOTR nsfw
BiggestT Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.12.21 14:41:00 - [16] Originally by: z0de Edited by: z0de on 21/12/2008 14:34:33 Originally by: BiggestT If i were u id just bring a domi. Cany any one say "Carrier hotdrop?" lol Carrier, you just gave him a reason to use a dread for this. Hmm, carrier hotdrop ussually means more than 1 carrier And other caps aswell, its just the term used as the carrier ussually is dropped at 0 first. Small cap fleet against one dread and a cplo domis? Yeah I think that wont work too well... EVE history t2 precisions
Glassback Body Count Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.22 17:42:00 - [17] Fit it like an expensive nos domi. Forget capital guns they wont hit jack in siege. 3 Heavy Nos SB's, Drone Mods, Cap Tank. Rigs, Sentry Damage Rigs
Assasin Socceress	Posted - 2008.12.22 18:21:00 - [18] Originally by: Zhilia Mann Originally by: Amma Kudalkar The 5 TP drones of Moros can effectively increase the sig radius by 1.2 times each; so effectively by a factor of 6 (Not sure of this but based on the stats seems like it) Remember how mods apply (and this is without stacking nerfs, even). It's not 1.2*5, it's 1.2^5. That is, not 6, more like 2.49. Not enough for cap guns to really do much, I'm afraid. If you absolutely insist on using a Moros on a gate, think about sentry drones. More feasible: don't use a Moros on a gate. The fact that BS guns have sig radius of 400 and still can do decent damage to cruisers; I guess the Op set up would certainly cause massive pain to any BS in its cross hair. Since it is near the gate, Sentry Drones are useless. To the Op; better use a Capital Armour Repairer in place of 1 Mag Stab.

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