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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:08:00 -
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About
A 6bil ISK six week bond paying 3% weekly interest and then returning principal on the sixth week.
What do I do?
I sit in station and get my stock moved from production location to selling locations using a third party freighter service who provide 110% collateral. I'd like to start up the business again and this bond will help me do that. I am asking for twice as much this time because I will be expanding into more locations than I did last time. I am providing about 2bil of my own ISK for this.
Secure?
I did this about 6 months ago and it was very successful, had to stop due to University starting. This is a mostly liquid ISK business as I am not using SELL orders at all (therefore I don't have to wait for my ISK), I am purely filling BUY ordersą therefore my stock is in my hands for a day or two out of the week at MOST.
Hit By A Bus or Trainą or a Large Man in a Red Suit...
Sadly, I have no collateral to offer and this cannot be remedied. But it is only a six week term bond, so IĘll try not to cross any streets or railroad tracks in these six weeks. IĘll sit and play Eve all day, nice and safe in my house!
Contact
I can supply email or MSN info to a few trusted parties if it is requested of investors.
Interest
Interest will be paid weekly and paid out using simple ISK transfer (because I am a noob at corp shares and stuff). A list of bond holders will be placed in this thread.
Buyback
A 100% buyback policy will be enacted on February 9th, 2009. I pay 3% interest every week and then return your initial investment on the last week along with interest for that week.
Start
This bond will start on next Monday (December 29th, 2008) and the first interest payment will be made on Monday January 5th, 2009.
Minimum Investment
A minimum of 200mil ISK is required for this bond.
Maximum Investment
A maximum of 2bil ISK is in effect for this bond.
Increment
Increments of 200mil ISK to be used please.
How To
To become a bond holder for this bond, please post your reservation in this thread and then transfer at least 200mil ISK and no more than 2bil ISK to Endureth before December 29th, 2008. You will receive a confirmation EVEmail within 48 hours of ISK transfer and your name will be put on the bond holder list in this thread.
Warning!
These bonds are NON-TRANSFERABLE. I will NOT keep track of anyone selling their bond, which means if you sell itą the guy or gal you bought it from will STILL receive the interest payments and principal return. Sorry if that inconveniences anyone, but it is a fairly short term bond, I donĘt expect too many people will want to pull out anyway.
A link to my previous bond offering.
I sold the character which I used to offer my previous bond, but audit will confirm that I am the same person by virtue of the other characters on the account, which are stated in post #2 of my previous bond offering. My Corp CEO can also confirm I am the same person if auditor requires a second opinion. However, only 2 of those characters are still mine, as I sold off the other 3 and deactivated that account.
The only characters that are mine, and share this account are McAlty and Xantherz. It is my only account.
Please ask questions and discuss.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:09:00 -
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Reserved
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:10:00 -
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Reserved
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Xantherz
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:11:00 -
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Confirming I am an alt of Endureth (formerly Xantheris)
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McAlty
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:12:00 -
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Confirming I am an alt of Endureth (formerly known as Xantheris)
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:12:00 -
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Can you post link to your character sales. I'm willing to invest 100 mil pending audit verifying that you are indeed Xantheris
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:16:00 -
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Your willingness to sell characters will erode trust somewhat because you have demonstrated that your identity is not necessarily as important to you as it is to others.
Furthermore, it raises a more important question, which is why you need the ISK. I assume your other character sales netted you a good chunk of ISK; of course, that could be a component of the 2bn you wish to contribute.
I would also ask why you are asking for 6bn, which is quite a large sum compared to the 2bn you will contribute yourself. Why not go with 1bn and expand at a more reasonable rate, and then perhaps once you've made a payment or two on this bond, you can launch another and run them in parallel? I'm concerned that you may not be able to remain as efficient with your capital as you expand. (This isn't anything personal, but more a general commentary that as businesses grow larger, they are less efficient. Just look at that guy who started an IPO with 10,000 ISK or something and is making monthly dividends of 300%.)
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp (2bn @ 4.5%) |
Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:18:00 -
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Good idea Brock... Link to Xantheris being sold
And 200mil minimum investment Brock 
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:21:00 -
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I'll split a 200m bond with someone if they don't want to buy a whole block; I can take the dividend payment and split it as necessary.
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp (2bn @ 4.5%) |
Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Endureth
Good idea Brock... Link to Xantheris being sold
And 200mil minimum investment Brock
The thread doesn't mention any of your alts names, so that's not exactly inspiring.
Ok, 200 mil it is.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:26:00 -
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Pack, I understand the problems it'll bring up. But I wanted a toon with more SP than my main had... so I sold it (and my other alt which I never played anyway) and bought a toon with the SP I wanted. I am still myself, so I can still be trusted.
I spent most of the money from my two character sales to buy my new main (Endureth), that is why I am only investing 2bil of my own and asking 6bil.
I am trying to get a hold of Kazuo to audit me if he has time. There was a concern when he audited me for my first bond because I was buying a Dread/Carrier toon at the same time as bond offering... but that was dispelled, was a completely separate transaction from the bond.
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:30:00 -
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Originally by: Endureth
Pack, I understand the problems it'll bring up. But I wanted a toon with more SP than my main had... so I sold it (and my other alt which I never played anyway) and bought a toon with the SP I wanted. I am still myself, so I can still be trusted.
I spent most of the money from my two character sales to buy my new main (Endureth), that is why I am only investing 2bil of my own and asking 6bil.
I am trying to get a hold of Kazuo to audit me if he has time. There was a concern when he audited me for my first bond because I was buying a Dread/Carrier toon at the same time as bond offering... but that was dispelled, was a completely separate transaction from the bond.
Understood.
Why exactly are you looking to increase your working capital so dramatically?
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp (2bn @ 4.5%) |
Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:33:00 -
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Well last time I offered this bond the 3bil really only covered my operations in Jita and Dodixie. I am looking to branch out into 2 or 3 more hubs this time, so 6bil should let me dip my foot into them.
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.23 04:35:00 -
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Originally by: Endureth
Well last time I offered this bond the 3bil really only covered my operations in Jita and Dodixie. I am looking to branch out into 2 or 3 more hubs this time, so 6bil should let me dip my foot into them.
Fair enough. Pending a report from Kazuo I'll take one bond.
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp (2bn @ 4.5%) |
Dr Keane
Jita Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.12.23 07:39:00 -
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I'll take one bond please.
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Ambo
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.12.23 08:32:00 -
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180 mil per week is a fair bit to be paying out to investors from 6 bil capital. What do you calculate your total profit per week to be and can you give an overview of how you arrive at that figure?
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Linia
Gallente
Linia Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.23 10:59:00 -
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Edited by: Linia on 23/12/2008 11:01:29
Originally by: Ambo
180 mil per week is a fair bit to be paying out to investors from 6 bil capital. What do you calculate your total profit per week to be and can you give an overview of how you arrive at that figure?
Or he might aswell give you the exact item(s) he's selling and how he's doing it so you and everyone can copy him? 
Keep dreaming 
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Ambo
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.12.23 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Linia
Edited by: Linia on 23/12/2008 11:01:29
Originally by: Ambo
180 mil per week is a fair bit to be paying out to investors from 6 bil capital. What do you calculate your total profit per week to be and can you give an overview of how you arrive at that figure?
Or he might aswell give you the exact item(s) he's selling and how he's doing it so you and everyone can copy him?
Keep dreaming
What on earth are you talking about?
I can tell you that next week I plan on maknig a profit of 1 bil isk.
I can break that down as:
2.2 bil in sales
1 bil in purchases
0.2 bil in overheads
Now try and horn in on my business... oh that's right, there's nothing there to tell you what I do. What I asked for was an overview of how he calculated his profit. Not a detailed breakdown of every item.
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Ricdics
Tleilex Developments
Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2008.12.23 11:46:00 -
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Selling only to buy orders is different. Evemail me the items you are selling so I can place appropriate buy orders. |
Damien Jax
Industrial Research College Ltd
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Posted - 2008.12.23 14:17:00 -
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Reserving 1 bond (@ 200mil), pending the audit.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.23 18:09:00 -
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Good question Ambo. I'll try and answer succinctly like you did:
I will be making 350-400 mil profit per week
7.9 bil of my capital goes to purchasing the inventory
0.1 bil goes to freighter service costs
Hope that helps.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.23 18:11:00 -
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Also please don't send money yet guys and gals. I'd like more discussion and such first, I will announce when money can be sent
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.12.23 18:52:00 -
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What sorta of mgt fee do you have worked in, what do you expect to walk away from at the end of the bond.
Why, if this is the same as the last one, do you need this amount?
Can you get an auditor to verify that you are using a third party freight service in addition to the previous mentioned character questions.
...if so I might go in for 200 |
Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.23 19:04:00 -
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Already answered some of those questions Kazzac. More money because I am expanding into more markets. I assume you mean "what do you expect to walk away WITH" (not from). But in answer to both, in the end I expect to walk away from having to pay investors some of my profits, and I expect to walk away with about 1.2 bil extra in my wallet so that I can continue the business without outside investment, although in less markets initially.
I am looking for someone to audit me, I have contacted Kazuo... but I fear he might be away for the holidays? Kazzac any chance you could audit me? Or anyone else for that matter.
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Damien Jax
Industrial Research College Ltd
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Posted - 2008.12.23 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Damien Jax on 23/12/2008 19:28:17
I fear the holidays will keep auditors busy for the time being, so you may have to wait past your investment start date.
I can offer my services to audit, but alas, I probably wouldn't be your first choice or MD's first choice. But, I'd do it for free in tandem with someone else just to get into it and get going on it (I'm also on vacation all next week, so I'll have time on my hands).
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.23 19:34:00 -
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Yeah I might have to postpone the start date if I don't get audited sometime soon. I have no problem letting you audit me along with someone else Damien, as long as the auditor agrees and all that.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.12.23 21:05:00 -
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I'll be hemmed up with family stuff, and between that and keeping my current logstics going I have little time Im afraid |
Breaker77
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Posted - 2008.12.23 21:13:00 -
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Although I am fairly new to investing, I am willing to put 200 million in this venture.
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Aumani
Gallente
GPS Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.12.23 21:41:00 -
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I'm in for 1 bond - 200 mil.
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Asaru Lyra
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Posted - 2008.12.23 22:58:00 -
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I'll reserve 200 million worth.
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Pascal Lorot
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Posted - 2008.12.24 00:44:00 -
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Reserve me 1 bond (200mil).
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Sarutobi
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Posted - 2008.12.24 02:43:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Sarutobi on 24/12/2008 02:43:47
Edited by: Sarutobi on 24/12/2008 02:43:30
Hi, reserve me 4 bond ( 800m ) to my main Char >> Owndaworld
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Rodrigo C
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Posted - 2008.12.24 03:06:00 -
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reserving 3bn worth pls
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The Hag
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Posted - 2008.12.24 13:36:00 -
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I would like to reserve the last two bonds pending audit.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.24 17:05:00 -
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OK looks like the entire bond has been reserved... now I just need to find an auditor who is not busy with family during the holidays... 
So perhaps I will have to wait until the New Year to get this going, keep an eye on the thread and your evemails.
Please keep posting reservations, always good to have more than needed in case people back out.
Please ask more questions and discuss.
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Madam Squishy
Southern Cross Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.24 18:58:00 -
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I will reserve 600m of this bond assuming anyone backs out or falls through.
~Squishy
YYRU YYUB ICUR YY4ME |
Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.27 02:43:00 -
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Looks like Kazuo will be away for a few days on vacation, and no one else has offered to audit me so far. I'd like to ask the investors if they want to go ahead without an audit, or wait for Kazuo to possibly audit me if he has time in a few days...
Up to the interested investors in the end. Let me know what you think please. Thanks!
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2008.12.27 03:20:00 -
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Your last IPO was successfull, not a scam and payments were made on time.
If the money is urgently needed and everyone else is willing to give you the benefit of the doubt then I am willing to deposit my share of the IPO now.
If some are unwilling to wait and you are in a hurry then I am willing to make up their missed investment by up to one billion. This includes my own four hundred million.
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.27 03:59:00 -
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Given your previous bond's success (and the rest of my portfolio performing quite well) I will go through without an audit for my own reservation of 1 bond, and I am willing to cover an additional 3 bonds if other reservations fall through without an audit.
I am also willing to split up a bond unit if there are investors who wish to invest less than the minimum 200m.
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp (2bn @ 4.5%) |
Breaker77
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Posted - 2008.12.27 04:15:00 -
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Although I am new to investing, given the other two investors who have confidence in you based on past performance, I am willing to go ahead with my 1 bond as well.
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.27 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Although I am new to investing, given the other two investors who have confidence in you based on past performance, I am willing to go ahead with my 1 bond as well.
I'd be careful about this. I'm willing to go along with my reservation even without an audit, but frankly, even if I lose all this ISK, I'll be okay; I'm investing with surplus. Do your research into this guy, and decide what you think his risk profile is, and then decide if the return is worth it.
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp (2bn @ 4.5%) |
Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.27 04:38:00 -
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I agree with Packtu'sa. Don't be a sheep and follow the others. Investing has as much to do with you as with me. You need to evaluate whether it is a good idea to invest in me, do your research, and so on... but you also need to evaluate if you can afford to to invest right now, what else you could spend your money on, and so on.
Please take Packtu'sa's advice and make sure you want to go ahead.
Oh and I have contacted EBank so they could report on my previous loan history with them, and confirm that I am Xantheris (I think they can do that).
Thanks all.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2008.12.27 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Edited by: Breaker77 on 27/12/2008 04:27:25
Although I am new to investing, given the other two investors who have confidence in you based on past performance, I am willing to go ahead with my 1 bond as well.
edit: If anyone backs out I can possibly liquidate some assets and come up with more capital, however this would take a couple of days.
If this is all the money you have you shouldn't liquidate anything. Most of the investors here aren't poor and are capable of recovering from this pretty quickly, you, however, don't seem to have the same financial reserve to fall back on. I recommend you stick with the 100m you have. I am not trying to be nasty or take any bonds from you but if things go bad I don't want to see you mining in a noob ship or doing lvl 1 missions to recover.
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The Hag
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Posted - 2008.12.27 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper
Edited by: Super Whopper on 27/12/2008 04:42:37
Your last IPO was successfull, not a scam and payments were made on time.
If the money is urgently needed and everyone else is willing to give you the benefit of the doubt then I am willing to deposit my share of the IPO now.
If some are unwilling to wait and you are in a hurry then I am willing to make up their missed investment by up to one billion. This includes my own four hundred million.
I posted with the wrong character - I am The Hag. Sorry for any confusion.
Confirming that I am Super Whopper.
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Dr Keane
Jita Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.12.27 08:27:00 -
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I'm good to go without an audit.
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Breaker77
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Posted - 2008.12.27 13:44:00 -
[46]
I appreciate everyone for the advise. I had already managed to track down his last offer and follow up on it. As for me being rich, no I am not, however I do have more than enough in hard assets without having to sacrafice anything. So no I wouldn't do something silly like sell my hulks, orca, or BPOs/BPCs to invest in this :)
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Damien Jax
Industrial Research College Ltd
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Posted - 2008.12.27 14:50:00 -
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I'll go with 200 mil without the audit. If you can't fill the bond without an audit, i'll audit you and we'll just have to see what happens.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.27 19:48:00 -
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Seems there is enough interested parties to go ahead with the bond. So go ahead we will. Please send isk to me when you are ready and we can start this thing. I will post when all funds have been received.
Thanks all.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.27 20:28:00 -
[49]
Money received from Rodrigo C.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.27 22:26:00 -
[50]
Money received from Madam Squishy
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.27 22:56:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Endureth on 27/12/2008 22:57:12
Money received from Breaker77
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.27 23:26:00 -
[52]
Money received from Packtu'sa.
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.27 23:26:00 -
[53]
I've sent 800m for 4 bonds. When you have received all ISK, could you please post a payment schedule?
Thanks, and good luck! 
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp (2bn @ 4.5%) |
DJ Geist
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Posted - 2008.12.28 03:27:00 -
[54]
put me down for one bond, 200 million
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.28 03:35:00 -
[55]
Money received from DJ Geist
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The Hag
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Posted - 2008.12.28 03:49:00 -
[56]
400 Million wil be transferred the moment I can get EVE up and running, seems my PC is as drunk as I was last night.
Could you please post who have sent you money and who haven't please?
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Seyah Tebut
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Posted - 2008.12.28 06:28:00 -
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Edited by: Seyah Tebut on 28/12/2008 06:30:18
I'll reserve 1 bond for 200mil. Will update post when ISK sent.
Edit: ISK sent
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.28 12:42:00 -
[58]
I will be away for 2 days because of an emergency. No internet access.
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Damien Jax
Industrial Research College Ltd
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Posted - 2008.12.28 17:23:00 -
[59]
Isk sent as per my reservation. Sent under my holding corp.
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Muscarin
Minmatar
eXceed Inc.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.28 22:55:00 -
[60]
ill take two bonds.
thanks.
will xfer money after i got them reserved.
Come in peace.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.29 00:31:00 -
[61]
Sorry for not getting back any sooner, xmas holiday and all. I'll send it as soon as Endureth confirms that I still have 1 bond reserved.
10% for Returning Customers |
Alatar IthrynLuin
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Posted - 2008.12.29 01:19:00 -
[62]
If bonds are still available, please mark me down for 1 bond.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.29 23:46:00 -
[63]
Back from my leave, sorry about that.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.30 02:20:00 -
[64]
Sent
10% for Returning Customers |
Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.12.30 02:25:00 -
[65]
Looking at how much are reserved, I think you've got 600 million too much.
10% for Returning Customers |
Endureth
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Posted - 2008.12.30 02:38:00 -
[66]
Few people have not responded to my contact in a few days, and have not sent money yet. So not quite sure if they interested still.
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Breaker77
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Posted - 2008.12.30 04:17:00 -
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I think it might be helpful if you edited your 2nd post to show who has paid so far along with the amount still outstanding. It seems that more people are still trying to reserve spots for this and it's rather unorganized in who has paid and who hasn't. Then again this is just my opinion.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2008.12.30 05:06:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Breaker77
I think it might be helpful if you edited your 2nd post to show who has paid so far along with the amount still outstanding. It seems that more people are still trying to reserve spots for this and it's rather unorganized in who has paid and who hasn't. Then again this is just my opinion.
I mentioned this on page II, it would be very handy.
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The Hag
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Posted - 2008.12.30 07:11:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Super Whopper
I mentioned this on page II, it would be very handy.
Wrong character again.
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Seyah Tebut
EVE Cemetery
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Posted - 2008.12.30 19:09:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Endureth
Few people have not responded to my contact in a few days, and have not sent money yet. So not quite sure if they interested still.
Confirm I sent you the isk?
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The Hag
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Posted - 2009.01.01 03:53:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Endureth
Edited by: Endureth on 31/12/2008 17:25:23
Money received
Brock Nelson - 0.2bil
Packtu'sa - 0.2bil
Dr Keane - 0.2bil
Damien Jax - 0.2bil
Breaker77 - 0.2bil
Aumani - 0.2bil
Asaru Lyra - 0.2bil
Pascal Lorot - 0.2bil
Owndaworld - 0.6bil
Rodrigo C - 1bil
The Hag - 0.4bil
Madam Squishy - 0.6bil
DJ Geist - 0.2bil
Alatar IthrynLuin - 0.4bil
Incorrect, I sent 1b.
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.01 06:41:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Endureth
Packtu'sa - 0.2bil
And I sent 800m; simple mistake as the reservations made were different, I hope?
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp (2bn @ 4.5%) |
Seyah Tebut
EVE Cemetery
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Posted - 2009.01.01 07:51:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Seyah Tebut on 01/01/2009 07:51:42
Originally by: Seyah Tebut
Originally by: Endureth
Few people have not responded to my contact in a few days, and have not sent money yet. So not quite sure if they interested still.
Confirm I sent you the isk?
Please either confirm on investment, or refund the isk I sent for 1 bond.
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Johnny English
Caldari
Phantom Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.01 16:05:00 -
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and wheres my bond too =) i sent 0.2bill, i would like to be seen on the list plz :) |
Seyah Tebut
EVE Cemetery
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Posted - 2009.01.02 07:25:00 -
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Edited by: Seyah Tebut on 02/01/2009 07:25:19
I still have yet to see any isk returned or my inquiries answered as to my status in this offering. As of right now, unless I hear otherwise, I'm calling this a scam.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.02 07:56:00 -
[76]
Wow, people who are complaining so far are those who has not reserved a bond and yet, sent the money anyways. Other are people who reserved less but sent more than they reserved...nice.
10% for Returning Customers |
Seyah Tebut
EVE Cemetery
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Posted - 2009.01.02 08:05:00 -
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If you check earlier in the thread, I DID reserve a bond, and sent the isk for it, but he never confirmed it in the thread after I posted about it twice, and sent him an evemail.
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.02 08:07:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Other are people who reserved less but sent more than they reserved...nice.
I spoke with Endureth in an ingame conversation about exactly how much I'd be purchasing. Since he confirmed my transfer, I'd expect he knows full well how many bonds I purchased.
I'm not going to call scam yet, but it sure would be nice to hear from Endureth.
Packtu'sa
Founder/CEO, Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp (2bn @ 4.5%) |
Linia
Gallente
Linia Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.02 09:45:00 -
[79]
Is there still any shares left?
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Johnny English
Caldari
Phantom Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.02 11:30:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Packtu'sa
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Other are people who reserved less but sent more than they reserved...nice.
I spoke with Endureth in an ingame conversation about exactly how much I'd be purchasing. Since he confirmed my transfer, I'd expect he knows full well how many bonds I purchased.
I'm not going to call scam yet, but it sure would be nice to hear from Endureth.
what he said
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Madam Squishy
Southern Cross Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.02 20:57:00 -
[81]
Endureth -
2008.12.27 19:33
Money ready to be received. I can take on 800mil from you since some people backed out because of no audit.
Thanks.
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Madam Squishy -
2008.12.27 03:59
I am willing to go foreward without the audit.
I have around 800m isk to invest, and hope you can take most of it off my hands.
On 12/27 at 22:23 I deposited 800m, NOT 600m... I reserved 600 initially but got confirmation i could invest 800m.
YYRU YYUB ICUR YY4ME |
Seyah Tebut
EVE Cemetery
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:10:00 -
[82]
I'm officially calling scam on this IPO by Endureth. He has not responded to my repeated requests for a conversation, nor has he answered my mails about returning my isk or giving me shares in the corp. With no contact from him in-game or here on the forums, we've been had.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:16:00 -
[83]
Seems like lots more than 6B has been sent to OP.
Popcorn time.
  
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Frenden Dax
Dax Acquisitions
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Posted - 2009.01.04 00:35:00 -
[84]
Originally by: cosmoray
Seems like lots more than 6B has been sent to OP.
Popcorn time.
I lol'd.
More seriously though, this only serves to stress the need for people to not invest large sums of cash in total unknowns. Emf/Banker Lucy, Endureth, and possibly one or two other IPOs out there that haven't failed/scammed yet are great examples of what happens when people are too quick to invest. They were all started by people 'new' to MD, lacked any form of collateral, and didn't get a 'vouch' from any prominent members of MD.
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MilowFV
Echo Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.04 04:41:00 -
[85]
Well its still early and there is a chance he will yet post an explanation, but I am leaning toward scam also. Given that folks are saying they have seen him in game and he is ignoring them that is never a good sign.
So will we see the character on the WTS forum soon?
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The Hag
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Posted - 2009.01.04 04:51:00 -
[86]
I suggest keeping an eye on the forums for him selling any of his characters just in case.
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Damien Jax
Industrial Research College Ltd
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Posted - 2009.01.05 16:32:00 -
[87]
I'm writing this off as a scam. He has not responded to any of my in-game requests. Don't hold your breath.
I suppose this is what you should expect from a -10 sec pirate with 10mil bounty.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.01.06 02:17:00 -
[88]
I agree, scam.
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Pascal Lorot
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Posted - 2009.01.15 03:42:00 -
[89]
Scam. I politely asked him for my investment back, as I'm dead poor and a new player. He sent back 1 isk...
I guess that's the risk you take. :/
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2009.01.15 04:49:00 -
[90]
Next time someone goes ranting about the "clique" of MD regulars/veterans shutting people out and/or being elitist *****s I'll link them this fine investment opportunity. Of course I'm finding, over time, that those who do such ranting are alts of people who do the scamming. Kind of goes hand in hand: - Troll Regulars endlessly
- Post scam with alt
- Profit
- Accuse regulars of doing the scam
Wash, rinse, repeat. People are such a gullible breed.
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