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Strong Chin	Posted - 2008.12.27 22:48:00 - [1] I want to install Eve via Steam and play with my existing account without spending 9 quid or having 'Eve Online DEMO' show in Steam, so how do I go about setting up Eve on Steam and playing with my existing account? And I want help, not opinions, so keep the "Steam sucxors" stuff to a minimum, like none.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.27 22:59:00 - [2] But the game isn't free on Steam, as far as I know. Whether or not a free month comes with the purchsae (I'm not sure) you're paying for the distribution method and the ability to download again through Steam and whatever other services they offer these days. It seems what you're requesting is a bit like going into a retail shop and wanting a boxed copy of the game for free, because you already play the game and have a paying account. Hopefully I'm wrong about this. Good luck. -- What's your EVE New Year's Resolution for 2009?
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Buga Buga Hecate Inferno	Posted - 2008.12.27 23:52:00 - [4] Make a shortcut in Steam
Safri Wolff	Posted - 2008.12.28 00:01:00 - [5] you also need to know that when you activate STEAM, you install a few programs like punkbuster, steam's own sneaky-sneaky ones and a few others which run in the background, sucking your system resources and leaving your EVE running like its on a custard tart with treacle topping......
Buga Buga Hecate Inferno	Posted - 2008.12.28 00:21:00 - [6] Right.. like were still in the VooDoo era...
ingenting 20th Legion Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.28 00:49:00 - [7] I'd skip steam ANY day. _________________ - "Welcome to EVE, remember to insu BAAOOM... Told you, newb."
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.28 00:53:00 - [8] Steam is a generally great method of digital distribution with a solid track record, despite the wails of some critics (really, complaining about punkbuster? Punkbuster was a great addition to CS and I was glad to see Valve pick it up in an official capacity many years ago). That said, I don't really know why you'd want to use it for EVE. What is the benefit as a player/user? You can already download the game for free from CCP and you have to manage and pay your accounts and subscriptions directly via CCP. Is this all really just so you can have a little button in your Steam window to click to launch EVE instead of on your desktop or in a folder or a menu somewhere? -- What's your EVE New Year's Resolution for 2009?
Serenii Astarael	Posted - 2008.12.28 03:24:00 - [9] Button (I think) on the Steam interface for "Add Non-Steam Game" creates a shortcut to EVE in your Steam window just like any Steam game.
Xailia Unsteady Corporation	Posted - 2008.12.28 03:32:00 - [10] Short answer: You can't. Long answer: You can't activate an existing EVE account on steam. Why? Who knows, but they even note it on the product page. So you either have to buy another account through steam just so you can use it with your existing account, or like the others have said, keep the EVE installation separate an add it to steam just as a link. If you wanted to keep it organized you could move your EVE folder into the steamapps folder. The only downside a can see is if you wanted the option to notify your friends in steam when you are playing EVE, which I'm not sure if 3rd party games added to steam report that. "The sky above the port was the color of a television, tuned to a dead channel."

Terra Mikael Private Nuisance	Posted - 2008.12.28 03:52:00 - [11] Edited by: Terra Mikael on 28/12/2008 03:58:17 steam sucks, don't use it. you'll regret it. They ban people for stupid things, and the bans are for every game that you have in steam. So suppose you were banned for playing CS on one account, none of your other games will work through steam. Originally by: Qordel Steam is a generally great method of digital distribution with a solid track record, despite the wails of some critics (really, complaining about punkbuster? Punkbuster was a great addition to CS and I was glad to see Valve pick it up in an official capacity many years ago). lol? Punk-buster sucks. It creates lazy admins but automatically administering punishments by instituting arbitrary checks and auto kicks. I was just kicked the other day for team killing - thing is, it just checks the score, and doesn't actually see that while I was driving an extremely slow vehicle with severe blind spots, several teammates decided to crouch for cover under the front of the vehicle (where I could not see them). Banned from the server for (however many hours PB automatically kicks you). If a real admin was there, the situation could actually be thought through and people could say that it was an accident. PB just insta-bans, often you never know why. ________________________________ Originally by: Korovyov You WIN! And by win, I mean suck horse manure.
Chalrynn Illyndar Lightspeed Enterprises Burning Horizons	Posted - 2008.12.28 04:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Terra Mikael lol? Punk-buster sucks. It creates lazy admins by automatically administering punishments by instituting arbitrary checks and auto kicks. I was just kicked the other day for team killing - thing is, it just checks the score, and doesn't actually see that while I was driving an extremely slow vehicle with severe blind spots, and several teammates decided to crouch for cover under the front of the vehicle (where I could not see them). Banned from the server for (however many hours PB automatically kicks you). If a real admin was there, the situation could actually be thought through and people could say that it was an accident. PB just insta-bans, often you never know why. Its like playing eve without the ability to put in a petition, or having a computer randomly respond to your petition. Which, you know, would have happened anyway. PB only runs as it is set to run by the server admin. Some servers will kick for things such as team kills, while others won't. Don't like the way server rules are set find a different server to play on. Punkbuster helps a lot with finding cheaters, go to punksbusted and look at some of the PB screens. Some of the stuff thats normally client side could not be detected by admins without PB. The "Random" kicks by punkbuster is usually because for whatever reason the server isn't recieving everything from punkbuster on your end.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.28 04:12:00 - [13] Perhaps punk-buster has changed, but back in the day it provided a good deal of assistance. For one, the admin couldn't always be available or make sure someone was constantly logged into the server with admin access (just because I ran servers didn't mean I was constantly palying on them, mind you). And punk-buster did far more than simply "check your score". It scanned for known cheats and various exploits installed on the user's system. Why subject my server and my players to dealing with a bunch of cheaters UNTIL someone notices and stops them when you can have a utility prevent them from joining you in the first place? Granted, it wasn't the ideal solution - but punk-buster is one of a number of utilities to get the job done. Perhaps it has really gone down hill since then. I don't know. But in my experience, it was absolutely no worse than all the servers you'd join where the admin would simply ban you from his server because you were too good and therefore "must be cheating". Additionally, the kicks are configured by the admin and simply carried out by PB. It can be as strict or lenient as the administrator deems it necessary. Actually... since when has punk-buster had anything to do with kicking or banning you for your score or team-kills? All punk-buster EVER did was client-side scanning to make sure you weren't cheating. Kicking/banning based on various parameters such as TKs are configured in counterstrike itself by the admin and carried out by the server whether or not punk-buster is running. And still -- you're just as likely to get screwed by a bad admin as you are a thoughtless script. As for Steam/Valve - they are far more credible than any other service I have used. I don't use them for anything right now as I just don't do much PC gaming anymore - but back in the beginning I used them for quite a bit and have a lot of products on my account. I have zero concerns where they are concerned. -- What's your EVE New Year's Resolution for 2009?
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.12.28 04:42:00 - [14] Originally by: Xailia The only downside a can see is if you wanted the option to notify your friends in steam when you are playing EVE, which I'm not sure if 3rd party games added to steam report that. It does. It says they're in a non-steam game and gives the name of the game. I have all kinds of weird games added to my steam as links (eve included) and get weird messages from people when they see me playing them :p. EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Saju Somtaaw Gallente Department of Defence DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2008.12.28 04:45:00 - [15] I also use steam w/o any problems. Got about 7 games right now, and don't have any trouble with them whatsoever. I'd definitly recommend it as a distribution system for pure games. ---- --- --- Devs Sign Here; GMs and ISD welcome to :)
Morberi	Posted - 2008.12.28 04:57:00 - [16] You could do like I've done and install the Eve Trial and just login normally once it launches the Eve client...\ And yes you can even download the Eve Trial without signing up for a trial.
CHAOS100 Black Plague. Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2008.12.28 04:59:00 - [17] I've had my steam account since 2003 and no problems here. Earlier on steam was a lot different, but Valve has made an effort since then to improve it and it is a long shot from the original steam now. I actually prefer to buy some games over steam now because they do not have the same intrusive copy protection as retail version of the same game (like online activation limits). That and also it is actually cheaper buying it on steam with no tax than buying it retail in Canada. How not to get banned: um, dont hack? lol? Punkbuster: a pain, but no major problems. I didn't even know they used punkbuster... they use VAC which I haven't had any problem with. --------------
Safri Wolff	Posted - 2008.12.28 16:37:00 - [18] the main gripe with me was that even when steam wasnt running, punkbuster was!!! it is present in the processes running folder when you enable Taskmaster. Why is it running when steam isnt was beyond me so i just dumped steam altogether and i have had no issues since
Eran Laude Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.12.28 17:18:00 - [19] Not had any problems with Steam in four years, got about 20 games on it now [just got Fallout 3 on it]. I usually check Steam first to see if the game I want is on it before checking other online stores. Punkbuster is harmless unless you hack - just configure your firewall to let it past and maybe do a reinstall of punkbuster alone [i.e. download it as a separate file] if it gives you hassle - random server kickings are where punkbuster is impeded or incomplete in some way. I love Steam - lets me get some of the best games around legitimately and at a good price, as well as download them anywhere in the world as many times as I want, updating them for me and having a great store system including trailers, metacritic ratings, etc. Also going to get Vapour soon, which should be good!
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.12.28 17:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Saju Somtaaw I also use steam w/o any problems. Got about 7 games right now, and don't have any trouble with them whatsoever. I'd definitly recommend it as a distribution system for pure games. Strange isn't it? I've got 57 games downloaded through Steam, all legit, all working 100% and no problems at all. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<

Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.12.28 17:27:00 - [21] Originally by: Verone Strange isn't it? I've got 57 games downloaded through Steam, all legit, all working 100% and no problems at all. That's obviously because you h4x… No sig for me, thankyouverymuch.
Sensor Echo Temple of the Blue Fish	Posted - 2008.12.28 17:34:00 - [22] Originally by: Terra Mikael Edited by: Terra Mikael on 28/12/2008 04:00:20 Edited by: Terra Mikael on 28/12/2008 03:58:17 steam sucks, don't use it. you'll regret it. They ban people for stupid things, and the bans are for every game that you have in steam. So suppose you were banned for playing CS on one account, none of your other games will work through steam. That sounds like pure balls, I mean, if I logged in and found out that my ú500 odd of games were suddenly unavailable there would be a civiil suit before you could say WTFBBQSAUCE?!?! ------------------------------------ The EvE online general discussion forum - you will never find a more wretched hive of s****and villainy
Strong Chin	Posted - 2008.12.28 18:31:00 - [23] Originally by: Eran Laude Not had any problems with Steam in four years, got about 20 games on it now [just got Fallout 3 on it]. I usually check Steam first to see if the game I want is on it before checking other online stores. Punkbuster is harmless unless you hack - just configure your firewall to let it past and maybe do a reinstall of punkbuster alone [i.e. download it as a separate file] if it gives you hassle - random server kickings are where punkbuster is impeded or incomplete in some way. I love Steam - lets me get some of the best games around legitimately and at a good price, as well as download them anywhere in the world as many times as I want, updating them for me and having a great store system including trailers, metacritic ratings, etc. Also going to get Vapour soon, which should be good! This lad summed up why I like Steam. The average gamer these days has atleast dual core, atleast 2gig of ram and atleast 2mb broadband, so having Steam start with windows uses a whopping huge 2% of your resources :D Punkbuster's service even barely takes up a snail's fart-worth of memory. So I have pretty much any and all games run through steam, there's less folders, no manual patching and a stunning friends service (I don't think I have yet managed to play TF2 without someone I know popping ingame to kill me.)
Ivana Drake	Posted - 2008.12.28 18:43:00 - [24] Steam is great, but I don't see why you'd want to use it for EVE
Commander TC Righteous Chaps	Posted - 2008.12.28 19:05:00 - [25] Like others have said, from Steam's Games window, go to add non-Steam games down on the bottom left. Search for the EVE executable and add it. That'll let you have the Steam shift-tab overlay during play and let people on your Friends list know you're playing.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2008.12.28 20:25:00 - [26] Originally by: Qordel Steam is a generally great method of digital distribution with a solid track record, despite the wails of some critics (really, complaining about punkbuster? Punkbuster was a great addition to CS and I was glad to see Valve pick it up in an official capacity many years ago). That said, I don't really know why you'd want to use it for EVE. What is the benefit as a player/user? You can already download the game for free from CCP and you have to manage and pay your accounts and subscriptions directly via CCP. Is this all really just so you can have a little button in your Steam window to click to launch EVE instead of on your desktop or in a folder or a menu somewhere? steam would be GREAT if the games didnt cost twice as much as they do in the shops and in the shops you get box manual and dont need to ravage your net bandwidth. Steam really is a pile of ****e.
Cierejai Caldari BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2008.12.28 20:50:00 - [27] So from what I can tell, steam is a "platform" that lets you play your games on, that you pay more for, for a fee? Instead of just buying the game somewhere else, for less, and double-clicking the icon on your desktop?
Grarr Dexx Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.12.28 20:51:00 - [28] Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII Originally by: Qordel Steam is a generally great method of digital distribution with a solid track record, despite the wails of some critics (really, complaining about punkbuster? Punkbuster was a great addition to CS and I was glad to see Valve pick it up in an official capacity many years ago). That said, I don't really know why you'd want to use it for EVE. What is the benefit as a player/user? You can already download the game for free from CCP and you have to manage and pay your accounts and subscriptions directly via CCP. Is this all really just so you can have a little button in your Steam window to click to launch EVE instead of on your desktop or in a folder or a menu somewhere? steam would be GREAT if the games didnt cost twice as much as they do in the shops and in the shops you get box manual and dont need to ravage your net bandwidth. Steam really is a pile of ****e. Lol? ----- Nexus stamps of approvalÖ count: 1
Saithe Caldari Heretic Army	Posted - 2008.12.28 20:56:00 - [29] I know you dont want opinions, but I dont care. Steam sucks. Before i had a bank account, id pay for crap online with prepaid visa's. i never kept them, nor did i write down the card numbers. long story short, they banned my account because i forgot the password to it, and they wouldnt fix a small problem with multiple accounts linked to a single email in regards to resending a password. Running eve through steam is like running a fat kid through a cake-filled house. yea youll get the end result, but itll take forever to get there. Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail [email protected] - Mitnal(lovespinkfont)
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.12.28 21:00:00 - [30] Originally by: Cierejai So from what I can tell, steam is a "platform" that lets you play your games on, that you pay more for, for a fee? Instead of just buying the game somewhere else, for less, and double-clicking the icon on your desktop? No. Steam is a content delivery system with some rudimentary (by today's standards) community tools built in. It's an online store for games, where the delivery is done over the net and your ownership of the game is registered at the store (so if you need to download it again, you can). It also keeps all your downloaded content up to date, without the need for manual patching. The service costs nothing. The games cost about the same as in the store (or less if you go for one of the many bundles), except you don't have to go to the store or worry about scratching the install media or worry about counting your installs (yes, there is DRM, but compared to what's out there, it's entirely reasonable). No sig for me, thankyouverymuch.

Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.12.28 22:08:00 - [31] Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII Originally by: Qordel Steam is a generally great method of digital distribution with a solid track record, despite the wails of some critics (really, complaining about punkbuster? Punkbuster was a great addition to CS and I was glad to see Valve pick it up in an official capacity many years ago). That said, I don't really know why you'd want to use it for EVE. What is the benefit as a player/user? You can already download the game for free from CCP and you have to manage and pay your accounts and subscriptions directly via CCP. Is this all really just so you can have a little button in your Steam window to click to launch EVE instead of on your desktop or in a folder or a menu somewhere? steam would be GREAT if the games didnt cost twice as much as they do in the shops and in the shops you get box manual and dont need to ravage your net bandwidth. Steam really is a pile of ****e. they cost twice as much on steam, really? are you looking at old games, a bunch of online stores will keep the suggested retail price, where you can get it at some stores for less as they try to get rid of stock. as for the manuals, well they are mostly crap these days. probably easier to go to the game's website and just download the pdf of the manual. or just check teh intrawebz for any info you want on the game.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2008.12.29 00:42:00 - [32] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII Originally by: Qordel Steam is a generally great method of digital distribution with a solid track record, despite the wails of some critics (really, complaining about punkbuster? Punkbuster was a great addition to CS and I was glad to see Valve pick it up in an official capacity many years ago). That said, I don't really know why you'd want to use it for EVE. What is the benefit as a player/user? You can already download the game for free from CCP and you have to manage and pay your accounts and subscriptions directly via CCP. Is this all really just so you can have a little button in your Steam window to click to launch EVE instead of on your desktop or in a folder or a menu somewhere? steam would be GREAT if the games didnt cost twice as much as they do in the shops and in the shops you get box manual and dont need to ravage your net bandwidth. Steam really is a pile of ****e. they cost twice as much on steam, really? are you looking at old games, a bunch of online stores will keep the suggested retail price, where you can get it at some stores for less as they try to get rid of stock. as for the manuals, well they are mostly crap these days. probably easier to go to the game's website and just download the pdf of the manual. or just check teh intrawebz for any info you want on the game. yes most games cost twice as much on steam as they do in the shops in the uk.
CHAOS100 Black Plague. Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2008.12.29 04:07:00 - [33] Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII Originally by: Qordel Steam is a generally great method of digital distribution with a solid track record, despite the wails of some critics (really, complaining about punkbuster? Punkbuster was a great addition to CS and I was glad to see Valve pick it up in an official capacity many years ago). That said, I don't really know why you'd want to use it for EVE. What is the benefit as a player/user? You can already download the game for free from CCP and you have to manage and pay your accounts and subscriptions directly via CCP. Is this all really just so you can have a little button in your Steam window to click to launch EVE instead of on your desktop or in a folder or a menu somewhere? steam would be GREAT if the games didnt cost twice as much as they do in the shops and in the shops you get box manual and dont need to ravage your net bandwidth. Steam really is a pile of ****e. they cost twice as much on steam, really? are you looking at old games, a bunch of online stores will keep the suggested retail price, where you can get it at some stores for less as they try to get rid of stock. as for the manuals, well they are mostly crap these days. probably easier to go to the game's website and just download the pdf of the manual. or just check teh intrawebz for any info you want on the game. yes most games cost twice as much on steam as they do in the shops in the uk. Most games are cheaper on steam for me Maybe its more expensive for euros because they did a ccp-style dollars=euros so no conversion of prices and more expensive in euros. --------------
brinelan Caldari Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.12.29 15:24:00 - [34] Edited by: brinelan on 29/12/2008 15:24:03 Games come with manuals? The few I got recently in the store had a small install guide and a few pages of background info and what the ui icons mean. I guess you can call that a manual lol Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield.
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2008.12.29 16:45:00 - [35] /me 's head explodes. The Ghost-training vote thread
Billy Sastard Amarr	Posted - 2008.12.29 17:01:00 - [36] 2 pages and no answer to the REAL question... Moving an existing EVE account to steam... *WHY??* <-------------------------------------------------> "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein
AccesiViale Gallente Vox de Lucis	Posted - 2008.12.29 21:07:00 - [37] Originally by: Sensor Echo Originally by: Terra Mikael Edited by: Terra Mikael on 28/12/2008 04:00:20 Edited by: Terra Mikael on 28/12/2008 03:58:17 steam sucks, don't use it. you'll regret it. They ban people for stupid things, and the bans are for every game that you have in steam. So suppose you were banned for playing CS on one account, none of your other games will work through steam. That sounds like pure balls, I mean, if I logged in and found out that my ú500 odd of games were suddenly unavailable there would be a civiil suit before you could say WTFBBQSAUCE?!?! Actually if you break the eula they can do that and besides its not EVERY steam game its the games that are related. Say you get caught cheating in CSS. VAC catches you and therefor youve broken EULA with by comprimising the source engine...that includes ALL source engine games... If youve broken the CSS files then you have broken the rest. Therefore...no source for you. You can continue to play other 3rd party games on steam until you play one that uses pb and get cought there and banned as well. They can do what they want...just like ccp does what they want. You dont own anything, your just borrowing it from them. The sky was blue but there was no god.


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