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Evrik Druvo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 01:58:00 -
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I am new to this and I don't have many skills in this area yet but I was just wondering what ore would give me the most isk payout? I'm just looking to make a quick buck right now and see what this aspect of the game is all about. Any helpful response would be good. |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 02:08:00 -
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Pyroxeres, mostly found in Ammar space in systems at or below 0.8 security status.
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.04.14 02:33:00 -
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It varies depending on the market for minerals. The only way to know for sure is to do the math and see which ore is worth more ISK/m3 (note that m3 is the most important measure because your lasers extract based by the m3) at any given time. That said, the previous poster is right that Pyrox is fairly valuable ... for the time being. |
Styth spiting
Ion Corp.
Citex Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.14 02:50:00 -
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The best ores tend to be the ones with the most yield of the most in-demand mineral. At the moment its Pyroxeres because of the Nocxium and mexallon yield.
Surprisingly enough Veldspar apears to be in 2nd place for highest yield price (189.18/m3) with Pyroxeres in the lead (224.51/m3) and kernite in 3rd place (170.28/m3). The last few weeks Kernite was the second best but with Trit going up in value I guess it was knocked down to 3rd.
Here's a calc someone posted in the science & industry section, it has the mineral yields per batch as well as the price per unit / m3 as well as the current prices at the top for minerals.
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/ |
Evrik Druvo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 03:01:00 -
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Thanks for the help |
Droxlyn
TOHA Heavy Industries
TOHA Conglomerate
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Posted - 2012.04.14 03:42:00 -
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I use this chart, you can sort it by the ISK column.
http://ore.cerlestes.de/index.html#site:ore |
NOOBIE CORP
NOOBERT CORP
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Posted - 2012.04.14 05:38:00 -
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^ That might be the most eye-friendly ore chart I've seen. This site has lots of really useful info, too. Nice link.
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D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.04.14 06:26:00 -
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Evrik Druvo wrote:I am new to this and I don't have many skills in this area yet but I was just wondering what ore would give me the most isk payout? I'm just looking to make a quick buck right now and see what this aspect of the game is all about. Any helpful response would be good.
Refining and Selling should be taken into consideration in two aspects.
Refining a certain ore is one thing, you need to know what ore you want to sell to get the skills for first. Great and dandy.
Selling, how much do you have to sell? How are you going to get it to the buying station? How far is the buying station? Hauling time vs mining and selling at a lower price?
For a quick buck you shouldn't rely on the prices that are given at main trading hubs if you're out in the middle of no where. Look at your local region prices and figure out what you would make the quickest and easiest buck off of.
Good luck :)
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D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.04.14 06:29:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Evrik Druvo wrote:I am new to this and I don't have many skills in this area yet but I was just wondering what ore would give me the most isk payout? I'm just looking to make a quick buck right now and see what this aspect of the game is all about. Any helpful response would be good. Refining and Selling should be taken into consideration in two aspects. Refining a certain ore is one thing, you need to know what ore you want to sell to get the skills for first. Great and dandy. Selling, how much do you have to sell? How are you going to get it to the buying station? How far is the buying station? Hauling time vs mining and selling at a lower price? For a quick buck you shouldn't rely on the prices that are given at main trading hubs if you're out in the middle of no where. Look at your local region prices and figure out what you would make the quickest and easiest buck off of. Good luck :)
Example would be:
I have 4 hulks that mine a boat load of ore into my Orca. The orca hauls it back to the station and refines it. After a mining op the Freighter pilot gets all the minerals and finds the prices in the region. Is it really worth flying 10-20 jumps in a slow Frieghter for 30 mins - 2 hours just to sell at 1 isk more per unit?
Or would I make more money by mining and selling a few jumps away from where we have the mining op at even though we're selling for 1 isk cheaper? ;)
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Salvia Olima
FREE GATES
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.04.14 09:54:00 -
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Calculate in that you can travel with the freighter afk to markets while you have a life, so that time is not deducted from production. |
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Alberik
Eusebius Corporation
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Posted - 2012.04.14 11:17:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:
Example would be:
I have 4 hulks that mine a boat load of ore into my Orca. The orca hauls it back to the station and refines it. After a mining op the Freighter pilot gets all the minerals and finds the prices in the region. Is it really worth flying 10-20 jumps in a slow Frieghter for 30 mins - 2 hours just to sell at 1 isk more per unit?
Or would I make more money by mining and selling a few jumps away from where we have the mining op at even though we're selling for 1 isk cheaper? ;)
if your freighter is fully loaded: ~80000000 units (80 millions) thats 80 millions isk for flying 30 minutes.
not bad
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.04.14 11:47:00 -
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It all depends on your skills, setup, standings, and location.
The mining tab in the program in my sig allows you to take all that into account.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.14 16:39:00 -
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Quote:Best ore to min in high sec?
all minerals are up right now.. mine what ever is in front of you.
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Vito Tattaglia
New Paradigm Inc.
Mass Consortium Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.14 16:48:00 -
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It all depends on your local market, (since you're new I take it you don't have the money to haul) but in certain places Trit has gone up past 6 ISK, so Veldspar is always a good choice just because of how common it is and the large amount of Trit it gives. But if you can mine in a system with a large amount of Pyrox, even better. |
Styth spiting
Ion Corp.
Citex Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.14 16:56:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:
I have 4 hulks that mine a boat load of ore into my Orca. The orca hauls it back to the station and refines it. After a mining op the Freighter pilot gets all the minerals and finds the prices in the region. Is it really worth flying 10-20 jumps in a slow Frieghter for 30 mins - 2 hours just to sell at 1 isk more per unit?
Or would I make more money by mining and selling a few jumps away from where we have the mining op at even though we're selling for 1 isk cheaper? ;)
The formula I've been working on to figure out when hauling longer distances is worth it:
(Mineral_Value - (Hauling_Time * Yield_Per_Minute))
Mineral_Value = ((Minerals * Market_Price) -Tax)
Hauling_Time = (Jumps * Average_Jump_Time) (average Orca align/warp is 38 seconds + 25 seconds travel time)
Yield_Per_Minute = (hourly yield / 60)
Still a work in progress (and soon to be a php script), so I might be missing some obvious things.
Salvia Olima wrote:Calculate in that you can travel with the freighter afk to markets while you have a life, so that time is not deducted from production.
And you also need to calculate how many freighter trips you need to make to cover the costs of the lost freighter to a AFK gank. |
Gorinia Sanford
Sons of Russ
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Posted - 2012.04.14 17:17:00 -
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Evrik Druvo wrote:I am new to this and I don't have many skills in this area yet but I was just wondering what ore would give me the most isk payout? I'm just looking to make a quick buck right now and see what this aspect of the game is all about. Any helpful response would be good.
Pyroxeres as some have already said. Also plagiocase if you find yourself in Caldari space. And also, as a recommendation, invest in the Marketing skill, at least to level 3. That will let you sell it to 10 systems out. And saves you travel time getting to the places with the best prices. As some NPC's say in another MMO, "Time is money friend!" |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
In Vitro.
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Posted - 2012.04.14 18:13:00 -
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That's not quite how the marketing skill works. You can only ever sell to offers that are valid in the station your items are located at. The increased range just means that you can x jumps from the stuff that you are trying to sell.
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Breezly Brewin
World's Best Dad
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Posted - 2012.04.16 05:27:00 -
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Pyroxeres is by far the most isk/m3 BUT there is a major problem with it, it yields a ton of Tritanium! My 2 Hulks fill up my Orca with REFINED Pyroxeres minerals (mostly Trit) in only a few hours. (I curently must send the Orca on trade runs) It takes me almost 24 hours to refine enough Kernite to fill my Orca with refined Kernite minerals. The isk/m3 calculators can be very deceptive in this regard. If the trade runs don't bother you then Veldspar is probably the simplest solution as it is abundant and in many systems Veldspar rocks are ignored.
TLDR:
1. Pyroxeres - most valuable (and can be harder to find BC of higher isk/m3) but more hauling refined minerals.
2. Veldspar - average value but abundant and lots of hauling refined minerals.
3. Plagioclase -average value but considerably less hauling refined minerals.
4. Kernite - average value but minimal hauling refined minerals.
5. Scordite sucks.
6. Omber sucks even more.
EDIT: Still love Pyrox, but when I mine it i usually dump the Tritanium at the station close to where I mine at lower than market values (just to 'move' it) and stock up on the more valuable Nocxium to haul myself to a more profitable trade hub. |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.04.16 11:14:00 -
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Breezly Brewin wrote:Pyroxeres is by far the most isk/m3 BUT there is a major problem with it, it yields a ton of Tritanium!
Pyrox (after refining, regular variant) packs down at a 9.66:1 ratio. Plag is 11.38:1, Scor is 4:1, Veld is 3.33:1, Kern is 31.1:1 and Omber is 40.7:1. So it's the 3rd worst ore in terms of refined volume.
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2012.04.16 13:27:00 -
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Go to the ingame channel 'Exploration' and offer to buy bookmarks to gravimetric sites. In high-sec you can find Hemorphite, Hedbergite and Jaspet in scanning-sites, all of which considerably better then Pyroxeres.
If you pay well enough (shouldn't be a problem since you get nice a profit-margin over high-sec belt ores), the explorers will likely throw more bookmarks at you then you can mine out.
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altaholick
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.16 14:11:00 -
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one of my favorite sites for checking ore values.
cerlestes |
D Program
Yamamoto Industries
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Posted - 2012.04.17 07:44:00 -
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Also a refining calculator.
http://www.eve-cost.eu/refining
Shows ISK/m3 value also.
What is this sorcery?
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