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hipeanut2006	Posted - 2008.12.29 19:10:00 - [1] I think I already know the answer to this, but if I wanted to mine straight into my Orca, I would have to just risk it being stolen wouldn't I? (Only person in 4 man corp with Exhumer and Orca skills)
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.12.29 19:19:00 - [2] Can you access the corp hangar bay of an unmanned orca? _______________ Pwett Founder <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Arnel Aalske Dark Dominion Dark Legacies	Posted - 2008.12.29 19:20:00 - [3] That is the best way to lose our Orca and give someone a nice present at the same time. There really isn't a good idea leaving an unmanned ship in space as a lot of people carebear or not would not hesitate to steal it.
hipeanut2006	Posted - 2008.12.29 19:21:00 - [4] Fair enough, thought as much =( I guess I just have to wait for one of my corp mates to get the skills for either an Exhumer or Orca then Thanks for the replies
gallminin Gallente Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo	Posted - 2008.12.29 19:35:00 - [5] lol where do you mine that you dont get alot of attention? ---Asus M2N SLI Deluxe wireles edition.- XFX 8800GT 512MB DDR3 - 6GB G.Skill - AMD 6400+ am2 @3.2 with a zalman cooler---
hipeanut2006	Posted - 2008.12.29 20:37:00 - [6] Few jumps from Jita, theres a ridiculous amount of asteroid belts but normally between 10-20 people in the system And haha thats pretty random, I was in Playboy Enterprises a few months back, nice bunch
gallminin Gallente Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo	Posted - 2008.12.30 00:14:00 - [7] you got balls mate. yea there alright. i mine in ajanen sometiems. ---Asus M2N SLI Deluxe wireles edition.- XFX 8800GT 512MB DDR3 - 6GB G.Skill - AMD 6400+ am2 @3.2 with a zalman cooler---
tehDevlish	Posted - 2008.12.30 09:41:00 - [8] can somebody enter an unmanned ship if it's locked?
Ralarina Caldari Vivicide	Posted - 2008.12.30 11:27:00 - [9] Originally by: hipeanut2006 I think I already know the answer to this, but if I wanted to mine straight into my Orca, I would have to just risk it being stolen wouldn't I? (Only person in 4 man corp with Exhumer and Orca skills) Hit me up in game, I'll sit there and watch it for you, to make sure no one else steals it. --
Arous Drephius Perkone	Posted - 2008.12.30 12:13:00 - [10] Originally by: tehDevlish can somebody enter an unmanned ship if it's locked? Only the last person that ejected from it.

W3ndy	Posted - 2008.12.30 12:56:00 - [11] Originally by: Arous Drephius Originally by: tehDevlish can somebody enter an unmanned ship if it's locked? Only the last person that ejected from it. What... did i miss something? you can now 'lock' your ship?
Laari Neros	Posted - 2008.12.30 13:25:00 - [12] Originally by: Ralarina Originally by: hipeanut2006 I think I already know the answer to this, but if I wanted to mine straight into my Orca, I would have to just risk it being stolen wouldn't I? (Only person in 4 man corp with Exhumer and Orca skills) Hit me up in game, I'll sit there and watch it for you, to make sure no one else steals it. lol
Yolo Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb	Posted - 2008.12.30 13:41:00 - [13] You should be fine, if you are quick on the 'Board' Orca and then Scoop the Hulk you used. (make sure you disable lasers and empty cargo first)
hipeanut2006	Posted - 2008.12.30 22:37:00 - [14] Originally by: Yolo You should be fine, if you are quick on the 'Board' Orca and then Scoop the Hulk you used. (make sure you disable lasers and empty cargo first) Yeah I was thinking that, theres never many people in the system so it shuld work Just really don't want to lose it lol And the post above, whats that about locking?
DigDoug	Posted - 2008.12.31 00:42:00 - [15] Originally by: hipeanut2006 Originally by: Yolo You should be fine, if you are quick on the 'Board' Orca and then Scoop the Hulk you used. (make sure you disable lasers and empty cargo first) Yeah I was thinking that, theres never many people in the system so it shuld work Just really don't want to lose it lol And the post above, whats that about locking? I'm going to have to highly recommend you don't do that. Here's a scenario. Someone sees you doing it, they get in a covert ops frigate, or some other t1 frig with a cloak and come back to the belt. They creep up to within 2000 m of your ship before they decloak and eject. At this point you scramble to beat them into the Orca. You eject from your ship. Only problem is there is a delay timer to reboard and since they ejected first they are going to get into the Orca first. At which point they scoop up your exhumer and their original frigate and leave.
hipeanut2006	Posted - 2008.12.31 02:15:00 - [16] Originally by: DigDoug Originally by: hipeanut2006 Originally by: Yolo You should be fine, if you are quick on the 'Board' Orca and then Scoop the Hulk you used. (make sure you disable lasers and empty cargo first) Yeah I was thinking that, theres never many people in the system so it shuld work Just really don't want to lose it lol And the post above, whats that about locking? I'm going to have to highly recommend you don't do that. Here's a scenario. Someone sees you doing it, they get in a covert ops frigate, or some other t1 frig with a cloak and come back to the belt. They creep up to within 2000 m of your ship before they decloak and eject. At this point you scramble to beat them into the Orca. You eject from your ship. Only problem is there is a delay timer to reboard and since they ejected first they are going to get into the Orca first. At which point they scoop up your exhumer and their original frigate and leave. Good point, just gonna have to wait atleast 70 days for one of my otehr corp mates to train for an orca or exhumer =( Thanks anyway for all the helpful replies
F'nr	Posted - 2008.12.31 02:54:00 - [17] 70 days to get in an Exhumer ??? damn i can get out of the box and in a hulk in 54, your corp mate going backward?
hipeanut2006	Posted - 2008.12.31 03:41:00 - [18] Haha He's only been playing for a month and a half, been doing just missions, he has no industry skills at all and has bad attributes for Perception and Intelligence lol Mining level 1 is his only industry skill
Bob Ghias	Posted - 2008.12.31 13:09:00 - [19] he is better off doing an alt, i got to hulk in 54 too from scratch.....
gallminin Gallente Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo	Posted - 2008.12.31 21:22:00 - [20] hipeanut2006 convo me in game ill fly it for you ---Asus M2N SLI Deluxe wireles edition.- XFX 8800GT 512MB DDR3 - 6GB G.Skill - AMD 6400+ am2 @3.2 with a zalman cooler---

r0b0to Dark Star Cartel	Posted - 2008.12.31 21:32:00 - [21] you can't enter a ship if someone has locked on to it, right? -----------
CommanderData211	Posted - 2009.01.01 10:26:00 - [22] the situation described with a covops ship sneaking up on an orca i actually witnessed happen. not only did the guy lose his orca but also the hulk that he was mining with. bad news. don't leave orca unmanned. you will cry
G'kek	Posted - 2009.01.01 10:32:00 - [23] And I realise you're probably not stupid. But trusting other people to fly it for you also probably a bad idea. :-p
Lyvanna Kitaen Minmatar Noonday Sun Corp	Posted - 2009.01.01 20:48:00 - [24] Originally by: Pwett Can you access the corp hangar bay of an unmanned orca? Yes you can, I've done it on SISI. I'm not brave/stupid enough to do it on TQ with my orcas.
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2009.01.02 20:31:00 - [25] Originally by: DigDoug You eject from your ship 1. You can board another ship without ejecting in first, and thus avoid the 30 sec timer. 2. If someone has an unmanned ship locked, you can't board it (not tested for a while, and might allow boarding from owner or owner's corp). Thus, what you suggest might work, at least for a while. So it would go like: - Go in belt, eject Hulk, board Hulk and lock the Orca -> Someone might just fast enough to board the Hulk or Orca before you get on next click - After mining, release lock, board Orca, scoop Hulk -> Same risks as above (like some cov op alt patiently waiting) Then again, what do you gain from mining directly to Orca? Couldn't you just jettison cans and come pick them after got enough for one load? If the system has enough nasties to steal your Ore, then you definetly shouldn't risk the ship. -Lasse wondering where his locator agent was agin
hipeanut2006	Posted - 2009.01.03 03:34:00 - [26] Edited by: hipeanut2006 on 03/01/2009 03:45:42 Irs just because I can fill a can really easily, with an orca I got a ****LOAD of space =P Then again, somehow I actually forgot that cans exist lol Appreciate all the replies
Qual Gallente Cornexant Research	Posted - 2009.01.03 08:19:00 - [27] Originally by: Heikki 2. If someone has an unmanned ship locked, you can't board it (not tested for a while, and might allow boarding from owner or owner's corp). Lol, I smell a carebear exploit for once. "The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf
glennkari Gallente Lions Club	Posted - 2009.01.03 13:20:00 - [28] Another "problem" that noone mentiond yet is this: When you access the corp hangar on the Orca, you only have access to 40K M3. You can not move the ore from the corp hangar to the Orca's cargobay without piloting it.
Wardo21	Posted - 2009.01.05 15:51:00 - [29] Originally by: Qual Originally by: Heikki 2. If someone has an unmanned ship locked, you can't board it (not tested for a while, and might allow boarding from owner or owner's corp). Lol, I smell a carebear exploit for once. If this mechanic is true, then the pirate only needs to fit some ECM to break the target locks. If there is only one other ship next to the unmanned orca, bring the correct ECM to break the lock, then start the takeover race for the orca...
Jeanna Anne	Posted - 2009.01.05 17:47:00 - [30] Originally by: Wardo21 If this mechanic is true, then the pirate only needs to fit some ECM to break the target locks. If there is only one other ship next to the unmanned orca, bring the correct ECM to break the lock, then start the takeover race for the orca... In high sec, the second after you use that ecm on the other ship your cov ops ship is now concorded. If you eject and manage to get into the orca first wouldn't that ship then be concorded as well?



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