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Imertu Solientai
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Posted - 2008.12.31 19:47:00 -
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The fact that you even use the word 'grief' says a lot about you. I would strongly advise you to go and cry yourself to sleep while everyone else gets on with having fun. You claim to be a PvP'er, but to be honest you're just proving to everyone that the closest you come to PvP is the joke that is 0.0 fleet battles where you just press buttons when the FC tells you to.
Now that I've got that over with, I'll explain to you why you're wrong.
You seem to use the word 'grief' to describe any activity that causes another player to not be able to enjoy the game to the fullest. Now, have you ever considered that the 'griefers' count as players too. Their maximum enjoyment of the game comes from doing things which 'grief' others, such as salvaging wrecks from missions. Now, not only is this problem unreconcilable for allowing people to salvage or not, but it also applies to the problem of aggro or no aggro. Therefore, you can't use the argument that the mission runner has some right to play the game in greater safety.
Now, given that you can't argue either way for which one should be favoured, the logical solution is to just ignore both sides and concentrate development time on other aspects.
However, if you can find another argument for helping mission runners this way, then feel free to present it.
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.01.15 13:29:00 -
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Silly Mission Bears.
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Yarik Mendel
Privateers
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Posted - 2009.01.15 14:26:00 -
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Nothing can salvage [FIX], hey are dead. |
Velocity Prime
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.01.15 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Velocity Prime on 15/01/2009 16:01:45
Read it and weep, suckas.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=971872&page=1#30
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shamai
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Posted - 2009.01.15 17:29:00 -
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No such thing as salvage theft sorry.
Salvage is the reward for being essentially a garbage collector, the payment for this job is the salvage itself.
Your garbage is not flagged for a reason, its there for someone else ot clean up. They cant very well be called a thief for doing that very thing now can they?
Oh btw, you have thought about the massive increase in mission ganking that would occur should you shoot one of these players under this proposed change?
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.01.16 00:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Velocity Prime
Edited by: Velocity Prime on 15/01/2009 16:01:45
Read it and weep, suckas.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=971872&page=1#30
QFT, and bears repeating. (HA! "Bears" Repeating! I made a funny!)
/me does the cabbage patch all around his keyboard.
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Baltherzar
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Posted - 2009.01.16 13:15:00 -
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BRING ON THE TRUPPETS!!!! |
Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Smelly
I guess this is a pretty big topic now adays.
When a mission is active there is a mission becon - If the owner of the mission wants to salvage the mission he will. If someone wants to steal the wrecks he should be flagged while the mission becon is there. If the player moves on to the next gate of a mission and someone steals it so be it - but they risk their aggressive flag just like someone whom goes to a ratting belt and takes a can b/c nobody is there.
Once a mission is turned in the becon disappears and no longer would be affected by this rule set. Those players whom really want get those uber wrecks have choices now.
- They can join the fleet and get it via permission.
- They can just steal it and get flagged right infront of the owner.
- They can find a missioner spot and take the wreck when the owner heads to next part.
- They can BM the location and come back when the mission owner turns in the mission thus giving you left over salvage rights with no aggression.
I am a fair believer of the freedom of doing whatever you want in eve. But when it comes down to it there is just this one little nitch or glitch that you can grief without the opposite and equal reaction. It is a way to beat natural law 
It is simple and would work.
ok this shows you have no clue ... salvaging after the mission was turned in is faster, because you can use an MWD to move between wrecks ...
and once you implement this, there will be pirates doing this just so they can shoot you once you try to attacke them ...
do you actualy want that ??
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