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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:03:00 -
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Half the modules a ship has stuck to it or carries in its cargo go to hell when it is destroyed. This is too large a percentage, and often we find ourselves losing a crapton of potential loot because some random number generator decides it should be destroyed.
I feel that more modules and cargo should survive the destruction of a ship, so that someone who has bested another ship in combat gets a proper reward.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:03:00 -
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Half the modules a ship has stuck to it or carries in its cargo go to hell when it is destroyed. This is too large a percentage, and often we find ourselves losing a crapton of potential loot because some random number generator decides it should be destroyed.
I feel that more modules and cargo should survive the destruction of a ship, so that someone who has bested another ship in combat gets a proper reward.
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Beseb
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:24:00 -
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Well, "proper reward" is a bit subjective. Your prey probably feels you deserve nothing. You feel you deserve everything.
Current system makes you go "argh" sometimes, but it works. Just kill more...
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Beseb
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:24:00 -
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Well, "proper reward" is a bit subjective. Your prey probably feels you deserve nothing. You feel you deserve everything.
Current system makes you go "argh" sometimes, but it works. Just kill more...
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:27:00 -
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modules destroyed is a _WEAK_ response to inflation by CCP. If the remove that too, then it's "game over man, game over!"
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:27:00 -
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modules destroyed is a _WEAK_ response to inflation by CCP. If the remove that too, then it's "game over man, game over!"
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Feta Solamnia modules destroyed is a _WEAK_ response to inflation by CCP. If the remove that too, then it's "game over man, game over!"
good point there ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Feta Solamnia modules destroyed is a _WEAK_ response to inflation by CCP. If the remove that too, then it's "game over man, game over!"
good point there ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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lordmix
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:50:00 -
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Edited by: lordmix on 21/07/2004 22:52:00 The real thing u gotta ask ccp why the **** does the good mods get poped and the crap does not, and to make matter bader u seen us a mail saying wot we missed out on
2 posts strange 
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lordmix
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:50:00 -
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Edited by: lordmix on 21/07/2004 22:52:00 The real thing u gotta ask ccp why the **** does the good mods get poped and the crap does not, and to make matter bader u seen us a mail saying wot we missed out on
2 posts strange 
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lordmix
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:50:00 -
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The real thing u gotta ask ccp why the **** does the good mods get poped and the crap does not, and to make matter bader u seen us a mail saying wot we missed out on
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lordmix
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:50:00 -
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The real thing u gotta ask ccp why the **** does the good mods get poped and the crap does not, and to make matter bader u seen us a mail saying wot we missed out on
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Tw34k3r
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:25:00 -
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lol, that would be a good idea...just to make it extra painfull...
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Tw34k3r
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:25:00 -
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lol, that would be a good idea...just to make it extra painfull...
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:45:00 -
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I feel more rare loot, above all, should survive ship destruction... I mean, I know you want it to be destroyed to maintain rarity, but there's rare and there's too rare. For example I've been trying to find modulated medium pulse lasers for months, at best finding one every two weeks or so if lucky.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:45:00 -
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I feel more rare loot, above all, should survive ship destruction... I mean, I know you want it to be destroyed to maintain rarity, but there's rare and there's too rare. For example I've been trying to find modulated medium pulse lasers for months, at best finding one every two weeks or so if lucky.
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Zalasar
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: Zalasar on 22/07/2004 00:19:17
he when i killed a indy once he had 2 good expanders on the ship and 1 10mn afb i ended up whit the 10 afb and didnt get any of the 2 good expanders ^^
and when i hunted before whit a buddy he killed a indy and the local hull got destroyed aswell. All the good stuff pretty mutch always blow up.
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Zalasar
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: Zalasar on 22/07/2004 00:19:17
he when i killed a indy once he had 2 good expanders on the ship and 1 10mn afb i ended up whit the 10 afb and didnt get any of the 2 good expanders ^^
and when i hunted before whit a buddy he killed a indy and the local hull got destroyed aswell. All the good stuff pretty mutch always blow up.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.07.22 01:04:00 -
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This is new... I thought it was going to be another cookie-cutter flaming rant about how unfair the game mechanics are for pirates now and we need JIP/LAG traps reinstalled or something...
but it's just about not getting enough cash for loot...
damn shame...
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.07.22 01:04:00 -
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This is new... I thought it was going to be another cookie-cutter flaming rant about how unfair the game mechanics are for pirates now and we need JIP/LAG traps reinstalled or something...
but it's just about not getting enough cash for loot...
damn shame...
Posting for Numbnutz |

Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.07.22 01:25:00 -
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i am not a pirate because of the benefits or how ahrd it is, i am a pirate because its fun ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.07.22 01:25:00 -
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i am not a pirate because of the benefits or how ahrd it is, i am a pirate because its fun ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.07.22 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: Mon Palae on 22/07/2004 02:58:54
Originally by: Zalasar he when i killed a indy once he had 2 good expanders on the ship and 1 10mn afb i ended up whit the 10 afb and didnt get any of the 2 good expanders ^^
and when i hunted before whit a buddy he killed a indy and the local hull got destroyed aswell. All the good stuff pretty mutch always blow up.
I have noticed this too. Whenever my ships have died the good items seem to take a MUCH more noticeable than random hit. I used to think it just seemed that way till I lost a Moa and 3 of 4 Gauss rails but kept the two normal launchers. Lost a named hardener and booster, kept the normal afterburner and I think a normal hardener (been awhile...don;t remember what was in low slots). Pretty much if it was good it was lost and I got to keep all the normal crap.
I think the loss of items is the least that can happen if you lose a ship...we probably should lose more. What would be cool is if you could somehow jettison fitted modules as well as cargo. Perhaps that would give pirates a reason to damage and hold a ship for ransom rather than just kill it. They could try to bargain off the modules and/or an ISK ransom. As it stands now pirates have to kill the ship in hopes of getting any modules and just have to take their chances. This was would open up some options (of course the pirates could still just kill the ships if that is what they want).
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.07.22 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: Mon Palae on 22/07/2004 02:58:54
Originally by: Zalasar he when i killed a indy once he had 2 good expanders on the ship and 1 10mn afb i ended up whit the 10 afb and didnt get any of the 2 good expanders ^^
and when i hunted before whit a buddy he killed a indy and the local hull got destroyed aswell. All the good stuff pretty mutch always blow up.
I have noticed this too. Whenever my ships have died the good items seem to take a MUCH more noticeable than random hit. I used to think it just seemed that way till I lost a Moa and 3 of 4 Gauss rails but kept the two normal launchers. Lost a named hardener and booster, kept the normal afterburner and I think a normal hardener (been awhile...don;t remember what was in low slots). Pretty much if it was good it was lost and I got to keep all the normal crap.
I think the loss of items is the least that can happen if you lose a ship...we probably should lose more. What would be cool is if you could somehow jettison fitted modules as well as cargo. Perhaps that would give pirates a reason to damage and hold a ship for ransom rather than just kill it. They could try to bargain off the modules and/or an ISK ransom. As it stands now pirates have to kill the ship in hopes of getting any modules and just have to take their chances. This was would open up some options (of course the pirates could still just kill the ships if that is what they want).
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.07.22 05:14:00 -
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Meta items have a higher chance of blowing up, you didn't know that? _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.07.22 05:14:00 -
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Meta items have a higher chance of blowing up, you didn't know that? _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Adriana
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Posted - 2004.07.22 05:41:00 -
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There is a far easier way to make sure rare modules don't get destroyed. Stop shooting people. Eventually there will be enough modules that the prices might come down some and then you can buy them instead of killing all the nice people for them. 
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -Napoleon Bonaparte |

Adriana
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Posted - 2004.07.22 05:41:00 -
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There is a far easier way to make sure rare modules don't get destroyed. Stop shooting people. Eventually there will be enough modules that the prices might come down some and then you can buy them instead of killing all the nice people for them. 
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -Napoleon Bonaparte |

Sir Drago
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Posted - 2004.07.22 06:03:00 -
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i agree with the pirates but only in the fact that the good stuff mostly goes down with the ship, at least have a better chance to get the good stuff, maybe podding is the result of pirate blue balls (not gettin theirs in the end) when they wtfpwn someone
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Sir Drago
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Posted - 2004.07.22 06:03:00 -
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i agree with the pirates but only in the fact that the good stuff mostly goes down with the ship, at least have a better chance to get the good stuff, maybe podding is the result of pirate blue balls (not gettin theirs in the end) when they wtfpwn someone
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.07.22 06:23:00 -
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There's two real types of outlaws in this game, pirates and gankers. Pirates do it for the cash. Gankers do it to kill people.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.07.22 06:23:00 -
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There's two real types of outlaws in this game, pirates and gankers. Pirates do it for the cash. Gankers do it to kill people.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |

fugazii
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:17:00 -
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i recently helped take down a scorp, 2 limos siege destroyed bout 20mil in t2 equipp destroyed only non named, non t2 items survived 
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fugazii
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:17:00 -
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i recently helped take down a scorp, 2 limos siege destroyed bout 20mil in t2 equipp destroyed only non named, non t2 items survived 
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Kermit Frog
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:24:00 -
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Ransomming would be a much better business if people would stay in space a bit longer after logging off, my BB can't kill that fast, sheeesh! :)
It's time to play the music It's time to light the lights It's time to meet the Muppets on the Muppet Show tonight! |

Kermit Frog
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:24:00 -
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Ransomming would be a much better business if people would stay in space a bit longer after logging off, my BB can't kill that fast, sheeesh! :)
It's time to play the music It's time to light the lights It's time to meet the Muppets on the Muppet Show tonight! |

Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kermit Frog Ransomming would be a much better business if people would stay in space a bit longer after logging off, my BB can't kill that fast, sheeesh! :)
If they are warp scrambled when they log, they don't go anywhere.
Pirating is fine as is. It would be nice if a few of the nice modules didn't get blown up everytime, but there is still plenty of money to be made, and even more fun to be had.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kermit Frog Ransomming would be a much better business if people would stay in space a bit longer after logging off, my BB can't kill that fast, sheeesh! :)
If they are warp scrambled when they log, they don't go anywhere.
Pirating is fine as is. It would be nice if a few of the nice modules didn't get blown up everytime, but there is still plenty of money to be made, and even more fun to be had.
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Ja'kar
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ja'kar on 23/07/2004 12:00:50 Edited by: Ja'kar on 23/07/2004 11:59:54 DonÆt flame me to deathà
But what about pirate skill where u hit and blow up less expensive mods and keep the rare mods
After all pirates pay subscription tooà
In fact gonna ask CCPà
Any ideas please send to pirate skill list topicà
*we have rights too*
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Ja'kar
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ja'kar on 23/07/2004 12:00:50 Edited by: Ja'kar on 23/07/2004 11:59:54 DonÆt flame me to deathà
But what about pirate skill where u hit and blow up less expensive mods and keep the rare mods
After all pirates pay subscription tooà
In fact gonna ask CCPà
Any ideas please send to pirate skill list topicà
*we have rights too*
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:53:00 -
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actually Shamis Orzoz, your wrong there ship just goes *poof* then when the prey logs back on they are amazingly transported 1million km away. Which is ***.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:53:00 -
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actually Shamis Orzoz, your wrong there ship just goes *poof* then when the prey logs back on they are amazingly transported 1million km away. Which is ***.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: sutty actually Shamis Orzoz, your wrong there ship just goes *poof* then when the prey logs back on they are amazingly transported 1million km away. Which is ***.
Hmm, Ok, I guess they changed that recently, I remember watching 2 guys warp scamble each other in a safe spot while they logged out and both ships stayed there until they logged back in the next day. But I haven't tried it recently, nobody ever disappers anymore now that I bought a geddon.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: sutty actually Shamis Orzoz, your wrong there ship just goes *poof* then when the prey logs back on they are amazingly transported 1million km away. Which is ***.
Hmm, Ok, I guess they changed that recently, I remember watching 2 guys warp scamble each other in a safe spot while they logged out and both ships stayed there until they logged back in the next day. But I haven't tried it recently, nobody ever disappers anymore now that I bought a geddon.
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:27:00 -
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"Give me insta kills and mega loots" Stop whining and live with it. ____________________________________________________
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |

Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:27:00 -
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"Give me insta kills and mega loots" Stop whining and live with it. ____________________________________________________
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |
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