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Sarinas
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Posted - 2004.07.22 19:45:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: wolf4ever
doesnt armor repair use med. slot?
Shield boost = mid
Armor repair = low
Hull (=structure) repair = mid
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I bring you pain,
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And some rain. |
Sarinas
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Posted - 2004.07.22 19:45:00 -
[32]
Originally by: wolf4ever
doesnt armor repair use med. slot?
Shield boost = mid
Armor repair = low
Hull (=structure) repair = mid
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I bring you joy,
I bring you pain,
I bring you some sunshine
And some rain. |
stalefish
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:20:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Cruz
If you can afford the 3 extra grid, Modulated Dual Light Pulse are better :D
Hehe, I just stole 11 of these from my agent courier mission. Felt like I hit the jackpot.
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stalefish
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:20:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Cruz
If you can afford the 3 extra grid, Modulated Dual Light Pulse are better :D
Hehe, I just stole 11 of these from my agent courier mission. Felt like I hit the jackpot.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:34:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Cruz
You dont use shield boosters on amarr ships anyways...
Umm. A small armor rep takes like 12sec to activate with skills. Your frig will most likely be dead before you get one cycle off.
Shield boost on frigs. Use an armor rep if you are going deep space.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:34:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Cruz
You dont use shield boosters on amarr ships anyways...
Umm. A small armor rep takes like 12sec to activate with skills. Your frig will most likely be dead before you get one cycle off.
Shield boost on frigs. Use an armor rep if you are going deep space.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:40:00 -
[37]
Originally by: stalefish
Originally by: Cruz
If you can afford the 3 extra grid, Modulated Dual Light Pulse are better :D
Hehe, I just stole 11 of these from my agent courier mission. Felt like I hit the jackpot.
lucky you!!
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:40:00 -
[38]
Originally by: stalefish
Originally by: Cruz
If you can afford the 3 extra grid, Modulated Dual Light Pulse are better :D
Hehe, I just stole 11 of these from my agent courier mission. Felt like I hit the jackpot.
lucky you!!
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:54:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Cruz
Originally by: stalefish
Originally by: Cruz
If you can afford the 3 extra grid, Modulated Dual Light Pulse are better :D
Hehe, I just stole 11 of these from my agent courier mission. Felt like I hit the jackpot.
lucky you!!
No sh1t, I'm having a hard time locating ANY frigate class modulateds....
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:54:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Cruz
Originally by: stalefish
Originally by: Cruz
If you can afford the 3 extra grid, Modulated Dual Light Pulse are better :D
Hehe, I just stole 11 of these from my agent courier mission. Felt like I hit the jackpot.
lucky you!!
No sh1t, I'm having a hard time locating ANY frigate class modulateds....
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.07.22 23:04:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Cruz
You dont use shield boosters on amarr ships anyways...
Umm. A small armor rep takes like 12sec to activate with skills. Your frig will most likely be dead before you get one cycle off.
Shield boost on frigs. Use an armor rep if you are going deep space.
I have to agree with Meridius. We are talking here about a punisher setup for a pilot with 1m skillpoints. A punisher setup for a very experienced pilot is completly different than a punisher for a new pilot. But with 1m skillpoints you start to become to be some kind of advanced fregate pilot if your focus was on training combat skills and not learning skills (learning skills would have been the better way).
Without knowing your skills it's hard to give advice. Start safe. Use medium beams with radio crystals. Fight long range. Use an afterburner (10mn might be overkill for fregate rats in high security systems because of powergrid requirements and tracking issues but is a good advice for harder spawns which you will fight with better skills) and a shield booster in medium slots. 1 Tracking enhancer, 1 heatsink, overdives and maybe cap relays (with good skills you dont need cap relays on puni) are the modules to play around in low slots.
If you always win and it starts to get boring (I guess this will be the case with 1m skillpoints for fighting skills) switch to close range combat. Gatling pulse (choose the crystals you need if you try to orbit at 2.5km range with full speed), 10mn afterburner, tracking computer and armor repairer will be your new modules.
Both setups are Punishers but completly different ships. And there are many more good different setups available. Playing around to find MY setup is one of the biggest aspects I enjoy. I am sure one Punisher will be able to kill a lone NPC battleships rat but I have not tried it. It's on my todo list.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.07.22 23:04:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Cruz
You dont use shield boosters on amarr ships anyways...
Umm. A small armor rep takes like 12sec to activate with skills. Your frig will most likely be dead before you get one cycle off.
Shield boost on frigs. Use an armor rep if you are going deep space.
I have to agree with Meridius. We are talking here about a punisher setup for a pilot with 1m skillpoints. A punisher setup for a very experienced pilot is completly different than a punisher for a new pilot. But with 1m skillpoints you start to become to be some kind of advanced fregate pilot if your focus was on training combat skills and not learning skills (learning skills would have been the better way).
Without knowing your skills it's hard to give advice. Start safe. Use medium beams with radio crystals. Fight long range. Use an afterburner (10mn might be overkill for fregate rats in high security systems because of powergrid requirements and tracking issues but is a good advice for harder spawns which you will fight with better skills) and a shield booster in medium slots. 1 Tracking enhancer, 1 heatsink, overdives and maybe cap relays (with good skills you dont need cap relays on puni) are the modules to play around in low slots.
If you always win and it starts to get boring (I guess this will be the case with 1m skillpoints for fighting skills) switch to close range combat. Gatling pulse (choose the crystals you need if you try to orbit at 2.5km range with full speed), 10mn afterburner, tracking computer and armor repairer will be your new modules.
Both setups are Punishers but completly different ships. And there are many more good different setups available. Playing around to find MY setup is one of the biggest aspects I enjoy. I am sure one Punisher will be able to kill a lone NPC battleships rat but I have not tried it. It's on my todo list.
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Hotice
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Posted - 2004.07.23 03:28:00 -
[43]
Here is setup for my little punisher:
Hi: 3x medium modulated pulse energy beams, 1x Small Nosferatu
Med:1xTech 2 shield booster, 1xnamed Cap Recharger
Lo: 1xnamed Small Armor Rep, 1xHeatsink, 2xPDU.
Recharge rate with this setup is 76 sec. You can fire all guns, run the shield booster, and armor repair all at same time forever. This setup can kill up to 75k npc pirates with easy. It is true that it doesn't have MWD or AB but I find them hardly needed. Just turn on the shield booster and fly right into the fight. Between shield booster and armor repair, you can deal with 4 missile using npc pirates with easy.
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Hotice
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Posted - 2004.07.23 03:28:00 -
[44]
Here is setup for my little punisher:
Hi: 3x medium modulated pulse energy beams, 1x Small Nosferatu
Med:1xTech 2 shield booster, 1xnamed Cap Recharger
Lo: 1xnamed Small Armor Rep, 1xHeatsink, 2xPDU.
Recharge rate with this setup is 76 sec. You can fire all guns, run the shield booster, and armor repair all at same time forever. This setup can kill up to 75k npc pirates with easy. It is true that it doesn't have MWD or AB but I find them hardly needed. Just turn on the shield booster and fly right into the fight. Between shield booster and armor repair, you can deal with 4 missile using npc pirates with easy.
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Mara Nobars
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Posted - 2004.07.23 14:51:00 -
[45]
I'm not sure ... back at ~1M skill points I tried using a Punisher and got pounded, but I was trying to use it like I had used other ships, with a shield booster and longer range weapons (beams).
Now after having been gone for a while, I tried it again (~1.3M skill points) ... with pulse lasers, no shield booster, and just one armor repairer. No problem facing pirates similar to before.
I think the difference is that before I would run out of cap, the shield booster would cut out, and that was all she wrote.
Now the cap stays reaonably full and I can keep fighting and keep armor repairing.
Whether the difference was made from having 30% more skill points, a change from shield boosting to armor repairing, or the change from beams to pulse (sitting at work, can't check the stats on either easily) ... I don't know.
~Mara Nobars
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Mara Nobars
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Posted - 2004.07.23 14:51:00 -
[46]
I'm not sure ... back at ~1M skill points I tried using a Punisher and got pounded, but I was trying to use it like I had used other ships, with a shield booster and longer range weapons (beams).
Now after having been gone for a while, I tried it again (~1.3M skill points) ... with pulse lasers, no shield booster, and just one armor repairer. No problem facing pirates similar to before.
I think the difference is that before I would run out of cap, the shield booster would cut out, and that was all she wrote.
Now the cap stays reaonably full and I can keep fighting and keep armor repairing.
Whether the difference was made from having 30% more skill points, a change from shield boosting to armor repairing, or the change from beams to pulse (sitting at work, can't check the stats on either easily) ... I don't know.
~Mara Nobars
"Ruthlessness is just another business skill" |
Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.07.24 07:13:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Ardor
I am sure one Punisher will be able to kill a lone NPC battleships rat but I have not tried it. It's on my todo list.
I attempted to solo a Serpentis battleship spawn with a close-combat Punisher (10 MN AB and gatling pulse lasers fitted with multifrequency crystals) today. The Punisher had no problems destroying the cruiser escort (110k Thoraxes), but it could not keep up with the armor repairer of the 500k Dominix. I was able to get it down to about 60% armor, but no further. Eventually a corp mate of mine arrived in a second Punisher and we were able to quickly destroy the battleship. It's possible that with named gatling lasers and tech II tracking mods and heat sinks a single Punisher could take out this spawn solo.
I am entertaining offers of tech II equipment to test this theory.
There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense |
Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.07.24 07:13:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Ardor
I am sure one Punisher will be able to kill a lone NPC battleships rat but I have not tried it. It's on my todo list.
I attempted to solo a Serpentis battleship spawn with a close-combat Punisher (10 MN AB and gatling pulse lasers fitted with multifrequency crystals) today. The Punisher had no problems destroying the cruiser escort (110k Thoraxes), but it could not keep up with the armor repairer of the 500k Dominix. I was able to get it down to about 60% armor, but no further. Eventually a corp mate of mine arrived in a second Punisher and we were able to quickly destroy the battleship. It's possible that with named gatling lasers and tech II tracking mods and heat sinks a single Punisher could take out this spawn solo.
I am entertaining offers of tech II equipment to test this theory.
There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense |
Liquid Metal
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Posted - 2004.07.24 09:13:00 -
[49]
Hi slots : Long range weapons (howizters/hybrids) [ i usually have one of each ]
Mediums : MWD + Shield booster
Low Slots : tracking enhancers, an armour rep, and whatever else you can be arsed to fit
"A strong man stands tall against all others, everything else is just a delusion for the weak.."
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Liquid Metal
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Posted - 2004.07.24 09:13:00 -
[50]
Hi slots : Long range weapons (howizters/hybrids) [ i usually have one of each ]
Mediums : MWD + Shield booster
Low Slots : tracking enhancers, an armour rep, and whatever else you can be arsed to fit
"A strong man stands tall against all others, everything else is just a delusion for the weak.."
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Drazic
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Posted - 2004.07.25 17:57:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Drazic on 25/07/2004 17:58:41
sorry for opening that thread again , but i have one question :P
Is it better if i use regulated light ions (hybrids with antimatter) instead of galting lasers and replacing the laser dmg mod to a hyb dmg mod ? . I saw that punisher gives bonus to lasers , only in cap usage , but hybrids deliver more dmg and better tracking .
What's your opinion ?
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Drazic
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Posted - 2004.07.25 17:57:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Drazic on 25/07/2004 17:58:41
sorry for opening that thread again , but i have one question :P
Is it better if i use regulated light ions (hybrids with antimatter) instead of galting lasers and replacing the laser dmg mod to a hyb dmg mod ? . I saw that punisher gives bonus to lasers , only in cap usage , but hybrids deliver more dmg and better tracking .
What's your opinion ?
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A member of MAZA Network - www.mazanet.gr |
Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.07.25 18:51:00 -
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IMO, no, I wouldn't fit a Punisher with blasters. Blasters have a very short range, so you need a ship that you can get close to your target with. Punishers, everything nice about them aside, are simply not very fast ships and you'll probably spend a good deal of time cursing the fact that you can't get into blaster range.
There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense |
Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.07.25 18:51:00 -
[54]
IMO, no, I wouldn't fit a Punisher with blasters. Blasters have a very short range, so you need a ship that you can get close to your target with. Punishers, everything nice about them aside, are simply not very fast ships and you'll probably spend a good deal of time cursing the fact that you can't get into blaster range.
There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense |
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