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Rocky Roid Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.02 09:17:00 - [1] Now CCP have removed ghost training I think we should be able to train more than one character on the same account. I used to run 2 accounts, my main account is always paid for but my second account was there when I got bored of playing my main all the time. It provided me with a welcome change in game play. I would pay for a month on my second account, play it, set a long skill then go back to my main. As things stand now with the cost of living going up I can not afford to pay for 2 accounts running permanently so I have stripped my second account and shelved it because I cant ghost train anymore. It seems to me unless you can afford 2 accounts or more you are stuck with one character. I do not want to stop his training to train another character on the same account as skills take long enough as it is. I would rather have one good character with skills that advance regularly than two characters that take twice as long to become what I want them to be. So CCP please allow us to train more characters on the same account now you have removed ghost training.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.02 09:17:00 - [2] Only if you can only sell accounts, not single characters and can't transfer characters from account to another. Otherwise, it's character farming season. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.01.02 09:32:00 - [3] Farming characters would increase, but the market for characters would also shrink. Why buy a specialized character, when you can train one at the extra cost of one character slot. Specialization would lose a lot of its value and playing solo would get boosted. Not to mention CCP would lose income as people would cancel accounts they just use for skilling alts.
King Rothgar Death of Virtue	Posted - 2009.01.02 09:34:00 - [4] I was stunned when the 3 charicters you are allowed was in fact just 1. It's really cheap and borders on false advertisement but whatever. I agree that we should be allowed to have 3 active charicters per account. Yes more charicter farming will take place but that's fine, I really don't care. Incidentally, I'd also like to see everyone in eve given all lvl5 skills and the whole skill training thing to be done away with entirely. Abilities in game should be determined by player skill, not arbitrary "skills" determined primarly by how long you've been sending CCP real life money. That said, SP isn't everything. Those sold charicters are often very, very easy to kill .
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2009.01.02 09:37:00 - [5] Originally by: King Rothgar Incidentally, I'd also like to see everyone in eve given all lvl5 skills and the whole skill training thing to be done away with entirely. I can't decide if this is a troll or not, honestly. ----------------
Kuranta Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2009.01.02 09:38:00 - [6] Edited by: Kuranta on 02/01/2009 09:42:32 There is no other mmo where you can train two characters at the same time. Why should EVE be different. CCP would alt lose accounts and thus lose money, so it's not gonna happen. EDIT: Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: King Rothgar Incidentally, I'd also like to see everyone in eve given all lvl5 skills and the whole skill training thing to be done away with entirely. I can't decide if this is a troll or not, honestly. That kinda slipped me as well. Yeah, I'd go for troll or someone not knowing anything about mmos.
FarosWarrior Amarr Sonnema	Posted - 2009.01.02 09:44:00 - [7] Edited by: FarosWarrior on 02/01/2009 09:45:02 Originally by: Kuranta Edited by: Kuranta on 02/01/2009 09:42:32 There is no other mmo where you can train two characters at the same time. Why should EVE be different. CCP would alt lose accounts and thus lose money, so it's not gonna happen. quoted for truth Cheers, Faros
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.01.02 09:53:00 - [8] 1) train long skil on both accounts 2) transfer character 3) dont CJ or switch skills - you now train 2 characters obviously you cannot do another one without a switch -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
Sedious Bloke	Posted - 2009.01.02 09:54:00 - [9] i wants to has a lollercopter for christmas every year but do i get one?
Rocky Roid Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.02 09:56:00 - [10] But the fact is, in the current economic climate some of us cannot afford to run 2 accounts, so we are down to one character, we get bored quicker and leave anyway. Being able to train more than one character on the same account makes for more interesting gameplay and that leads to longer paid subscriptions (well for me it would be anyway).
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.01.02 10:11:00 - [11] and i want a gf see the similarities? not gonna happen mate Wyvern & Chimera fitting flowchart
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.02 10:12:00 - [12] Originally by: Sokratesz and i want a gf see the similarities? not gonna happen mate Yeah but, there's actually something that CAN be done about multiple training My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Rocky Roid Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.02 10:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Sokratesz and i want a gf see the similarities? not gonna happen mate Yeah but, there's actually something that CAN be done about multiple training LOL
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2009.01.02 10:38:00 - [14] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Sokratesz and i want a gf see the similarities? not gonna happen mate Yeah but, there's actually something that CAN be done about multiple training Too easy, doesn't make it any less funy ofc.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.01.02 10:43:00 - [15] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 02/01/2009 10:43:28 Originally by: Tzar'rim Too easy, doesn't make it any less funy ofc. Well, like they say, a bear can't rampage all the time, sometimes it stops to eat berries Or to take a big steaming...well...you know. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Gunship Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.01.02 10:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Rocky Roid But the fact is, in the current economic climate some of us cannot afford to run 2 accounts, so we are down to one character, we get bored quicker and leave anyway. Being able to train more than one character on the same account makes for more interesting gameplay and that leads to longer paid subscriptions (well for me it would be anyway). I think thats a fair point.
Rocky Roid Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.02 11:06:00 - [17] Edited by: Rocky Roid on 02/01/2009 11:14:07 Edited by: Rocky Roid on 02/01/2009 11:07:46 Originally by: Kuranta There is no other mmo where you can train two characters at the same time. Why should EVE be different. CCP would alt lose accounts and thus lose money, so it's not gonna happen. But EVE takes a LOT longer to train skills than other games and you cant speed the process up. I know this because I have played many mmo games through the years. Dark Age of Camelot springs to mind here, you could get to level 50 (maximum level) in just 2 days if you had the right friends.
CommanderData211	Posted - 2009.01.02 11:38:00 - [18] Training two toons at the same time doesn't seem like a good idea. If anything, have the alt toon train at a vastly different timescale. This gets a little tricky as well however and I'm pretty sure I'm voting against this idea. What about USING your alts at the same time. If it was implemented it might cause pandemonium, but why is it that we can't USE our alts without paying for them. As it stands our alts are completely separate from our mains. This way you could still keep the alts extremely underpowered for combat and such, but they could be used for utility, like hauling those rocks away from the belts. Even if you did decide to train up your active alt for combat, you'll still have to sink tons of time into doing so, and in this way its almost like you are paying for another account which i'm sure CCP would dig. So I guess the long and the short of it is, allow 2 ACTIVE toons per account but still only allow one toon train at a time. Ideas?
NightF0x Gallente Chicken Coup Raiders	Posted - 2009.01.02 13:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Rocky Roid But the fact is, in the current economic climate some of us cannot afford to run 2 accounts, so we are down to one character, we get bored quicker and leave anyway. Being able to train more than one character on the same account makes for more interesting gameplay and that leads to longer paid subscriptions (well for me it would be anyway). And this is CCP's problem that you can't afford 2 accounts? I fail to see how this is CCP's problem. Maybe your priorities should be placed somewhere else if you can't afford the 2nd account, perhaps the 1st account should go as well. Eve is just a game after-all, no need to go bankrupt just to play. ------------------------------------
Rocky Roid Gallente	Posted - 2009.01.02 13:44:00 - [20] Originally by: NightF0x Originally by: Rocky Roid But the fact is, in the current economic climate some of us cannot afford to run 2 accounts, so we are down to one character, we get bored quicker and leave anyway. Being able to train more than one character on the same account makes for more interesting gameplay and that leads to longer paid subscriptions (well for me it would be anyway). And this is CCP's problem that you can't afford 2 accounts? I fail to see how this is CCP's problem. Maybe your priorities should be placed somewhere else if you can't afford the 2nd account, perhaps the 1st account should go as well. Eve is just a game after-all, no need to go bankrupt just to play. Of course it's CCP's problem, they are feeling the financial crisis too. I am a customer and without its customers CCP disappears along with your account too :) Quote: Pimp Slappy: i need revenge on these pirates that pew'd me hard all day until I exploded all over them.
Tarron Sarek Gallente Biotronics Inc. Alternative Realities	Posted - 2009.01.02 14:42:00 - [21] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Farming characters would increase Yes, that is for sure. Quote: but the market for characters would also shrink. This is just an assumption. Nobody knows for sure what will happen. And it will only shrink after the demand for cheap and effective alts has been saturated. I'm not sure if we want that to happen. Quote: Why buy a specialized character, when you can train one at the extra cost of one character slot? Because you just started playing and want instant gratification? Quote: Specialization would lose a lot of its value True. Quote: Not to mention CCP would lose income as people would cancel accounts they just use for skilling alts. True ___________________________________ Balance is power, ~~guard~~ hide it well "Ceterum censeo Polycarbonem esse delendam"
F4LC0N	Posted - 2009.01.02 15:36:00 - [22] Originally by: Rocky Roid Edited by: Rocky Roid on 02/01/2009 11:14:07 Edited by: Rocky Roid on 02/01/2009 11:07:46 But EVE takes a LOT longer to train skills than other games and you cant speed the process up. I know this because I have played many mmo games through the years. Dark Age of Camelot springs to mind here, you could get to level 50 (maximum level) in just 2 days if you had the right friends. EVE is a bit different in eve you can be everything at the same time given enought time in other mmos you pick one career and are bound to it
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.01.02 16:41:00 - [23] Not. Going. To. Happen. Period. The Ghost-training vote thread
Giribaldi	Posted - 2009.01.02 16:53:00 - [24] i think because you cant play 2 of same charictors on the same account at same time i think if you paid an additional amount to activate more than 1 train charictor. i have this pride to be a combat specialist if i train all those other skills im not so much anymore and thought if i could pay like 5 dollars more a month and have an alt train build skills that might make life much easier for me. if i could even train 1 main and 2 alts and pay like 15 for my normal subscription and 5 more for alt 1 and 5 more for alt 2 this will allow me to train a miner, builder and let me continue as pirate but this is nurfed because i can only use 1 charictor 1 at a time.
Manos Soban	Posted - 2009.01.02 16:56:00 - [25] Originally by: Rocky Roid Now CCP have removed ghost training I think we should be able to train more than one character on the same account. [...] So CCP please allow us to train more characters on the same account now you have removed ghost training. Now you think like the "Broker"
Gantor Tesla	Posted - 2009.01.02 17:36:00 - [26] I'm pretty sure people like you were the REASON for stopping ghost training. If you get training w/o paying for game time where does CCP make isk?
Wolfae Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.02 18:56:00 - [27] Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: King Rothgar Incidentally, I'd also like to see everyone in eve given all lvl5 skills and the whole skill training thing to be done away with entirely. I can't decide if this is a troll or not, honestly. Firstly, I hate that ghost training is gone. It made the game a lot less fun for me coz my char will advance much slower coz there is no way I'm paying just to be training during my uni terms when I barely have time to sleep let alone play a computer game. Secondly this guy has a point, it's wouldn't work entirely on a game like eve but if there were none or just less skills you would have to be a better pilot and have better tactics to get ahead.
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Vall Kor Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.02 20:19:00 - [29] I agree this is a very alt unfriendly game. Since it is required that you pay for another account if you want to be able to train them both. They should at least offer a discount. Or just remove the extra slots since their effectively useless.
Kaiden Exeider Gallente Astrowork Systems	Posted - 2009.01.02 21:08:00 - [30] A few comments. Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: King Rothgar Incidentally, I'd also like to see everyone in eve given all lvl5 skills and the whole skill training thing to be done away with entirely. I can't decide if this is a troll or not, honestly. Why is it that anytime someone wants to suggest a rethink of this game or any other for that matter they are called a troll? I feel this term is over used, and is used to label people for thinking. Originally by: Kuranta Edited by: Kuranta on 02/01/2009 09:42:32 There is no other mmo where you can train two characters at the same time. Why should EVE be different. CCP would alt lose accounts and thus lose money, so it's not gonna happen. secondly, thats because in other MMOs you physically can't sign onto the same account with two character at the same time, you either play with one or the other. the idea of a skill system that trains whether you play or not in many ways breaks the MMO mindset anyway, the idea is to get asses in seats to play. I'll be honest, I see the pros and cons of the skill training mindset, but to be honest, i never really did like it, especially since gameplay has no effect one way or the other on skill training, now if they had a way to make it so that your gameplay would affect the skills in which your style uses, that would be nice. For Ex. A PVPer does his thing and his gunnery skills train a faster. a Miner Mines and his industry skills train a bit faster. and so on and so forth. in other MMOs, players play the character and depending on how much or little they play determines the speed of their advancement, and the more they play in a particular style, or specialization, they are eventually going to get some top level skill or power. In EVE the player has no control over the speed at which they progress, it becomes a matter of time. Now i know this is where people will say, Well EVE isnt like your normal MMO. And Of course i get that. But that statement isn't always a good thing. In one way, EVE being a different kind of MMO, means its unique and different. However it also means it can be very esoteric and hard to expand. the fact that the player no matter what they do, a player who plays every day for 4 hours a day cannot go faster then the player who logs in once a week to change skills, and almost never plays. Isk is not a problem, time codes for one solves the iskies problem for the fair weather player. So all a person has to do is sell time codes, and wait, then they can get that pretty ship, but wait, now you say, but they can't use it, or there personal ability to play the game is so lacking they will loose that expensive ship. Well I've got a solution for that, the test server Singularity, where one can purchase most anything for 100isk, and play to your hearts content, blow up carriers by the truck load, PvP by consent and just have fun doing whatever you feel like. the fact is in the end, the hardcore player doesnt have that much motivation to play everyday, if his lazy counter part can do all that and more using what tools are at hand. While i don't want to advocate the abolition of the skill system, i do want a mechanic that would add a way to speed up training time for skills you use all the time. to reward the player who logs in and mines religiously, or logs in to mission run or PvP, what ever your style, if you do it all the time, then you should have something to show for it. -AgentExeider -¦ Kaiden Exeider - CSM Candidate

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