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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.07.23 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Veneth on 23/07/2004 22:32:16
Not totally True Del. While being fast is great it's not going to be everything.
For instance. take the rifter. a great combat frigate but start to compare it to a Punisher. While the Punisher lacks all the speed it has more powergrid and an extra 2 low slots. Pun's really toss out the hurt now a days while constantly running they're MWDs :)
and amarr cruisers don't suck the maller is a nasty fighter. I used to not like them but I gave it a shot and was very suprised. Also the Omen can do some serious damage if properly fitted
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.07.23 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Veneth on 23/07/2004 22:32:16
Not totally True Del. While being fast is great it's not going to be everything.
For instance. take the rifter. a great combat frigate but start to compare it to a Punisher. While the Punisher lacks all the speed it has more powergrid and an extra 2 low slots. Pun's really toss out the hurt now a days while constantly running they're MWDs :)
and amarr cruisers don't suck the maller is a nasty fighter. I used to not like them but I gave it a shot and was very suprised. Also the Omen can do some serious damage if properly fitted
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Gart kaliso
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Posted - 2004.07.23 22:49:00 -
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The mm frigs are now good for two things running away and running towards something or other..........I fully expect the championships to be won by pilots in mm frigs who tank up and run like crap, in terms of firepower they are woefull however.
rise up, throw off the yolk the of the devs unjust regime they have sujected us to..........
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Gart kaliso
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Posted - 2004.07.23 22:49:00 -
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The mm frigs are now good for two things running away and running towards something or other..........I fully expect the championships to be won by pilots in mm frigs who tank up and run like crap, in terms of firepower they are woefull however.
rise up, throw off the yolk the of the devs unjust regime they have sujected us to..........
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Species 8472
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Posted - 2004.07.24 05:48:00 -
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Well i am one of those idiots whom has put close to his 13 mill skill points in minmitar combat only. :(
I cant fly any other ship or fire any other weapon except for minmitar, i tried to be a specialist in one race only and believeing the race to be slaves becomeing mighty warriors i thought they were the ideal choice, oh but look suddenly the universe had some cosmological nerf happen to it once again.
Egg bombing the Devs with my 1400 guns , hehe i know they wont get hit by them since they dont hit anything anymore. :(
"The Weak Will Perish". |
Species 8472
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Posted - 2004.07.24 05:48:00 -
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Well i am one of those idiots whom has put close to his 13 mill skill points in minmitar combat only. :(
I cant fly any other ship or fire any other weapon except for minmitar, i tried to be a specialist in one race only and believeing the race to be slaves becomeing mighty warriors i thought they were the ideal choice, oh but look suddenly the universe had some cosmological nerf happen to it once again.
Egg bombing the Devs with my 1400 guns , hehe i know they wont get hit by them since they dont hit anything anymore. :(
"The Weak Will Perish". |
JacenSolo
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Posted - 2004.07.24 06:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Species 8472
Well i am one of those idiots whom has put close to his 13 mill skill points in minmitar combat only. :(
I cant fly any other ship or fire any other weapon except for minmitar, i tried to be a specialist in one race only and believeing the race to be slaves becomeing mighty warriors i thought they were the ideal choice, oh but look suddenly the universe had some cosmological nerf happen to it once again.
Egg bombing the Devs with my 1400 guns , hehe i know they wont get hit by them since they dont hit anything anymore. :(
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JacenSolo
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Posted - 2004.07.24 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Species 8472
Well i am one of those idiots whom has put close to his 13 mill skill points in minmitar combat only. :(
I cant fly any other ship or fire any other weapon except for minmitar, i tried to be a specialist in one race only and believeing the race to be slaves becomeing mighty warriors i thought they were the ideal choice, oh but look suddenly the universe had some cosmological nerf happen to it once again.
Egg bombing the Devs with my 1400 guns , hehe i know they wont get hit by them since they dont hit anything anymore. :(
I hear you my friend, Not much fun is it.. |
Naqq
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Posted - 2004.07.24 06:55:00 -
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Started training caldari the day trackin changes went ingame mate.
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Naqq
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Posted - 2004.07.24 06:55:00 -
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Started training caldari the day trackin changes went ingame mate.
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chillz
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Posted - 2004.07.24 09:41:00 -
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The Devs are a bunch of Amarr....
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A gun and a packet of sandwiches.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
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chillz
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Posted - 2004.07.24 09:41:00 -
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The Devs are a bunch of Amarr....
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A gun and a packet of sandwiches.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
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Armand Trimonte
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Posted - 2004.07.24 11:25:00 -
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I have found a good set up for the tempest. Species can attest to this. 4 1400's 4 Cruise, Large shield booster, EMP Thermal and Explosive hardners, Shield recharge booster, Co-Processor I, and 5 Gyorostabaliser II's. This setup can wtfpwn jsut about anything. I even took a Raven to 50% structure before i popped. If I had just a bit more cap I would have finished him. But this setup can take and deal damage like a mother. Just switch around ammo types to fit your target, ex. for Amarr use kinetic and explosive ammo to take there armor faster than they can repair it. Most everything else use emp and thermal for the shields with explosive/kinetic rounds for your guns. Any suggestions to make this better would be much appreciated :)
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Armand Trimonte
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Posted - 2004.07.24 11:25:00 -
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I have found a good set up for the tempest. Species can attest to this. 4 1400's 4 Cruise, Large shield booster, EMP Thermal and Explosive hardners, Shield recharge booster, Co-Processor I, and 5 Gyorostabaliser II's. This setup can wtfpwn jsut about anything. I even took a Raven to 50% structure before i popped. If I had just a bit more cap I would have finished him. But this setup can take and deal damage like a mother. Just switch around ammo types to fit your target, ex. for Amarr use kinetic and explosive ammo to take there armor faster than they can repair it. Most everything else use emp and thermal for the shields with explosive/kinetic rounds for your guns. Any suggestions to make this better would be much appreciated :)
I have a Gallente love slave. |
TGIF
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Posted - 2004.07.24 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Gart kaliso
As we the minimater race have gained a new and cruel set of oppresoors (herefoward known as the devs) I Gart Kaliso founder of the minimater peoples front of eystur herebuy urge all likeminded minimater to boycot all any any offical activities, games challenges, events, testing or otherwise assiting in eve in any way shape or form other than the persuit or personal profit until the tempest 1v1 problems are sorted out rather than left to rot in a heap of millions of useless skillspoints.
After hours and hours i got a setup that cannot only beat an apoc 1vs1, megathron (blasterthron) 1vs1, scorp 1vs1 (yes even with ECM), typhoon, etc etc...
The only ship i havent tested against is an raven but im not too scared for that... All i can say is play around and try using all your powergrid.
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.07.24 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Gart kaliso
As we the minimater race have gained a new and cruel set of oppresoors (herefoward known as the devs) I Gart Kaliso founder of the minimater peoples front of eystur herebuy urge all likeminded minimater to boycot all any any offical activities, games challenges, events, testing or otherwise assiting in eve in any way shape or form other than the persuit or personal profit until the tempest 1v1 problems are sorted out rather than left to rot in a heap of millions of useless skillspoints.
After hours and hours i got a setup that cannot only beat an apoc 1vs1, megathron (blasterthron) 1vs1, scorp 1vs1 (yes even with ECM), typhoon, etc etc...
The only ship i havent tested against is an raven but im not too scared for that... All i can say is play around and try using all your powergrid.
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GFLTorque
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Posted - 2004.07.24 12:27:00 -
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I agree with TGIF.
There are setups for Tempest that are good setups atm. Are the 1400mm shield tank setups what they used to be? No, but I dont think anyone would argue that. Still there are some very good refits, with the recent Posts on Cruiser 2nd Ship Bonus that TomB has issued, and in light of all the recent tweaks, I am very encouraged that whats not working exactly right will probably be tweaked yet again. 
The flurry of Sticky's regarding turrets, missles, ships, cruiser 2nd bonus' etc... makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside that there is hope for the Minmatar cause. Now, if we can just lobby to get the NPC drops of 1400mm Scouts to increase.
4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions
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GFLTorque
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Posted - 2004.07.24 12:27:00 -
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I agree with TGIF.
There are setups for Tempest that are good setups atm. Are the 1400mm shield tank setups what they used to be? No, but I dont think anyone would argue that. Still there are some very good refits, with the recent Posts on Cruiser 2nd Ship Bonus that TomB has issued, and in light of all the recent tweaks, I am very encouraged that whats not working exactly right will probably be tweaked yet again.
The flurry of Sticky's regarding turrets, missles, ships, cruiser 2nd bonus' etc... makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside that there is hope for the Minmatar cause. Now, if we can just lobby to get the NPC drops of 1400mm Scouts to increase.
4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions
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Inanna
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Posted - 2004.07.24 12:29:00 -
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I think the mimitar stuff will always swing back and forth going from too powerfull to useless. Our ships strengths are mostly in the firepower area. Of course weapon balance is always going to be the hardest thing to accomplish for the devs. The are going to constantly tweak all the different weapons. Any weapon nerf or implimentation or change is going to have the largest impact on mimitar ships.
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Inanna
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Posted - 2004.07.24 12:29:00 -
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I think the mimitar stuff will always swing back and forth going from too powerfull to useless. Our ships strengths are mostly in the firepower area. Of course weapon balance is always going to be the hardest thing to accomplish for the devs. The are going to constantly tweak all the different weapons. Any weapon nerf or implimentation or change is going to have the largest impact on mimitar ships.
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Gart kaliso
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Posted - 2004.07.24 13:42:00 -
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ah yes but should we as a race be slave to the dev puppet masters answer me that eh?
throw off the tyranny that is the dev...
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Gart kaliso
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Posted - 2004.07.24 13:42:00 -
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ah yes but should we as a race be slave to the dev puppet masters answer me that eh?
throw off the tyranny that is the dev...
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Inanna
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Posted - 2004.07.24 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Gart kaliso
ah yes but should we as a race be slave to the dev puppet masters answer me that eh?
throw off the tyranny that is the dev...
No your right we shouldnt, but our day in the sun will come again...that you can count on. I would say start dusting off your rupture and loading it to the gills with heavies once the chaos weapons systems are installed!
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Inanna
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Posted - 2004.07.24 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Gart kaliso
ah yes but should we as a race be slave to the dev puppet masters answer me that eh?
throw off the tyranny that is the dev...
No your right we shouldnt, but our day in the sun will come again...that you can count on. I would say start dusting off your rupture and loading it to the gills with heavies once the chaos weapons systems are installed!
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Nilit
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Posted - 2004.07.24 14:17:00 -
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I currently boycott Minmatar battleships and fly frigs and ceptors only.
Who knows , perhaps soon I will extend the boycott to all ships on 2 accounts closer to World of Warcraft release 
Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying |
Nilit
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Posted - 2004.07.24 14:17:00 -
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I currently boycott Minmatar battleships and fly frigs and ceptors only.
Who knows , perhaps soon I will extend the boycott to all ships on 2 accounts closer to World of Warcraft release
Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying |
Ithildin
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Posted - 2004.07.24 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: MadGaz
get a Raven
Get a smartbomb. Set on Autorepeat. Fire.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2004.07.24 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: MadGaz
get a Raven
Get a smartbomb. Set on Autorepeat. Fire.
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BIRDofPREY
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Posted - 2004.07.24 17:15:00 -
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I gave up on Minmatar ships after the Stabber (which is still a fun ship). After that I discovered the Thorax, and loved it like a dirty blond. Now they are nerfing it and I'm thinking, a Vexor or Caldari Blackbird...
Your 650mm Artillery Cannon I perfectly strikes Serpentis Guard, wrecking for 340.0 damage |
BIRDofPREY
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Posted - 2004.07.24 17:15:00 -
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I gave up on Minmatar ships after the Stabber (which is still a fun ship). After that I discovered the Thorax, and loved it like a dirty blond. Now they are nerfing it and I'm thinking, a Vexor or Caldari Blackbird...
Your 650mm Artillery Cannon I perfectly strikes Serpentis Guard, wrecking for 340.0 damage |
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