Originally by: Surefoot

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Great read.

But there's no such thing as an ore thief. It's impossible to steal anything from peoples cargo holds or secure containers. The only stuff you can take is what people throw away.

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http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary/hypocrite

Originally by: Surefoot

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Great read.

But there's no such thing as an ore thief. It's impossible to steal anything from peoples cargo holds or secure containers. The only stuff you can take is what people throw away.

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http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary/hypocrite

Originally by: Hiigara Soban

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Had you decided to take our stuff this weekend, other than being a hypocrite in trying, you would have failed because we had haulers already there covering the cans. That's the whole point.

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I see your reasoning.. but if you have well placed bookmarks, a solo miner could grab the ore he mines just as fast, if not quicker than a friend hauling it... if a friend is unloading a load and somebody shows up in the belt and decides to grab some stuff.. even if that indy warps directly back ontop of its can, it would still be too late.. unless if there were several haulers and the can(s) were always being guarded constantly.. but in that case the cans are so near empty there isn't much point in 'guarding' them in the first place.

I see your point and I think its a good one.. but my point is that if people 'let' their stuff be taken when solo mining, then it doesn't make that much of a difference when a friend in guarding the can.. unless if you are paranoid and dont want a hauler more than 1500m from the can at any given time.

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Originally by: Hiigara Soban

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Had you decided to take our stuff this weekend, other than being a hypocrite in trying, you would have failed because we had haulers already there covering the cans. That's the whole point.

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I see your reasoning.. but if you have well placed bookmarks, a solo miner could grab the ore he mines just as fast, if not quicker than a friend hauling it... if a friend is unloading a load and somebody shows up in the belt and decides to grab some stuff.. even if that indy warps directly back ontop of its can, it would still be too late.. unless if there were several haulers and the can(s) were always being guarded constantly.. but in that case the cans are so near empty there isn't much point in 'guarding' them in the first place.

I see your point and I think its a good one.. but my point is that if people 'let' their stuff be taken when solo mining, then it doesn't make that much of a difference when a friend in guarding the can.. unless if you are paranoid and dont want a hauler more than 1500m from the can at any given time.

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Originally by: Mon Palae

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Edited by: Mon Palae on 29/07/2004 04:12:28

Originally by: Surefoot

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Psst. Your whole post was about a signature that changes often and was not used to support my stance. If I get around to it, I might change the URL to the one you posted. That is if I don't change it completly to something else when I get bored with it. Anyway, thanks!

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Psst. Signatures are not included in the autoquote function at all so I recreated your sig in my quote. You can change your sig all you like and mine will remain the same. It is not uncommon for threads to be edited or deleted either so occasinonally you will see a quote and be unable to reference it back to the person. I think people are used to it and take little note and assume the quote was/is a fair quote of what the person said somewhere (unless they later see the person kicking up a storm about how they never siad that which is not the case here).

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If I wanted to argue about semetics I would argue that the game adheres to the "abanodned" definition more than any others. It wouldn't be because of pesronal preference. It would be because of my observation of these mechanics.

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I personally think someone sitting next to their can while mining is a pretty clear indication that the person does not view the can as garbage for any to take but as theirs. While game mechanics allow for anyone to come and take what is there that by no means equates to taking the "abandoned" definition. If you truly believe in the abandoned definition then drive to 0.0 and find some miners mining to a jet can. If the abandoned definition is the one that holds I am sure they will leave you alone as you empty their can.

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Originally by: Mon Palae

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Edited by: Mon Palae on 29/07/2004 04:12:28

Originally by: Surefoot

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Psst. Your whole post was about a signature that changes often and was not used to support my stance. If I get around to it, I might change the URL to the one you posted. That is if I don't change it completly to something else when I get bored with it. Anyway, thanks!

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Psst. Signatures are not included in the autoquote function at all so I recreated your sig in my quote. You can change your sig all you like and mine will remain the same. It is not uncommon for threads to be edited or deleted either so occasinonally you will see a quote and be unable to reference it back to the person. I think people are used to it and take little note and assume the quote was/is a fair quote of what the person said somewhere (unless they later see the person kicking up a storm about how they never siad that which is not the case here).

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If I wanted to argue about semetics I would argue that the game adheres to the "abanodned" definition more than any others. It wouldn't be because of pesronal preference. It would be because of my observation of these mechanics.

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I personally think someone sitting next to their can while mining is a pretty clear indication that the person does not view the can as garbage for any to take but as theirs. While game mechanics allow for anyone to come and take what is there that by no means equates to taking the "abandoned" definition. If you truly believe in the abandoned definition then drive to 0.0 and find some miners mining to a jet can. If the abandoned definition is the one that holds I am sure they will leave you alone as you empty their can.

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