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Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.07.24 03:30:00 -
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Getting in my shinny new Helios tonight, with my shiney new Covert Ops Cloak engaged for the first time, I set to warp around the system cloaked. Ha!! Yes, you can ENTER warp cloaked, but as soon as you get into warp you decloak! You come out of warp UNCLOAKED!! Hardly what we were all led to believe was the case. I hope this is a bug! PLEASE be a bug!! If this is not a bug,all I have a something a little faster than a Rifter with a Portotype Coak that can get a quicker lock. What the heck is the point if you cant come out of warp cloaked?!?!?! PLEASE be a bug!!!!!
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Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.07.24 03:30:00 -
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Getting in my shinny new Helios tonight, with my shiney new Covert Ops Cloak engaged for the first time, I set to warp around the system cloaked. Ha!! Yes, you can ENTER warp cloaked, but as soon as you get into warp you decloak! You come out of warp UNCLOAKED!! Hardly what we were all led to believe was the case. I hope this is a bug! PLEASE be a bug!! If this is not a bug,all I have a something a little faster than a Rifter with a Portotype Coak that can get a quicker lock. What the heck is the point if you cant come out of warp cloaked?!?!?! PLEASE be a bug!!!!!
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.07.24 04:03:00 -
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it's probably due to it being a hi-slot. i'd imagine (until this device) most high-slots are weapons or something that needs a target (shield transfer, f.ex) so, it probably got slipped through without changing the appropriate variables. hopefully this is something easily fixed.
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
flummox
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Posted - 2004.07.24 04:03:00 -
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it's probably due to it being a hi-slot. i'd imagine (until this device) most high-slots are weapons or something that needs a target (shield transfer, f.ex) so, it probably got slipped through without changing the appropriate variables. hopefully this is something easily fixed.
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.07.24 04:05:00 -
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Covert Ops should be able to warp while Cloaked, when you enter a system you should be able to activate your cloaking device and be able to travel without uncloaking.
Anything less makes Covert Ops a POS (and no, that isnt Player Owned Structure/Station)
I'm glad I havent wasted training on Covert Ops. |
Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.07.24 04:05:00 -
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Covert Ops should be able to warp while Cloaked, when you enter a system you should be able to activate your cloaking device and be able to travel without uncloaking.
Anything less makes Covert Ops a POS (and no, that isnt Player Owned Structure/Station)
I'm glad I havent wasted training on Covert Ops. |
Lansfear
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Posted - 2004.07.24 04:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Kalki Nibiru
I'm glad I havent wasted training on Covert Ops.
I've trained it, but not spending any money on it for a while.
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Lansfear
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Posted - 2004.07.24 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kalki Nibiru
I'm glad I havent wasted training on Covert Ops.
I've trained it, but not spending any money on it for a while.
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CCP Hammerhead
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Posted - 2004.07.24 06:38:00 -
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I'd consider this to be a bug. I'll check it out.
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CCP Hammerhead
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Posted - 2004.07.24 06:38:00 -
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I'd consider this to be a bug. I'll check it out.
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Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.07.24 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: BH Hammerhead
I'd consider this to be a bug. I'll check it out.
Thank god
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Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.07.24 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: BH Hammerhead
I'd consider this to be a bug. I'll check it out.
Thank god
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.07.24 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lansfear
Originally by: Kalki Nibiru
I'm glad I havent wasted training on Covert Ops.
I've trained it, but not spending any money on it for a while.
Yeah, at 20M a ship, you have got to be kidding. I'm actually apalled that the devs havent released more components to make these ships cheaper.
If they want people to specialize, you need to make sure these interceptors are cheaper than a tier 1 cruiser. The moment that happens, new players are more likely to start thinking "Not only are these ships affordible, but they are also more powerful than the frigate I'm in now, and are a good jumping platform to a cruiser" as the devs add further specialist frigate skills, some new players would be apt to think "I like the fast paced combat of frigates, and these new specializations make it so I can compete in PvP and not die in futility, I think I am going only going to pilot frigates because they become more powerful and useful as you specialize, and are the cheapest ship"
I mean, this is pathetic how many battleships and cruisers I see today when the majority should be frigates, then cruisers, than battleships. The problem has nothing to do with the insurance length or cost (because when you kill someone, they still need to buy insurance again), it has everything to do with the fact that the players more apt to specialize in frigates or cruisers are the new players, and the cost of these new ships are extremely prohibitive.
I really do hope this changes.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2004.07.24 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lansfear
Originally by: Kalki Nibiru
I'm glad I havent wasted training on Covert Ops.
I've trained it, but not spending any money on it for a while.
Yeah, at 20M a ship, you have got to be kidding. I'm actually apalled that the devs havent released more components to make these ships cheaper.
If they want people to specialize, you need to make sure these interceptors are cheaper than a tier 1 cruiser. The moment that happens, new players are more likely to start thinking "Not only are these ships affordible, but they are also more powerful than the frigate I'm in now, and are a good jumping platform to a cruiser" as the devs add further specialist frigate skills, some new players would be apt to think "I like the fast paced combat of frigates, and these new specializations make it so I can compete in PvP and not die in futility, I think I am going only going to pilot frigates because they become more powerful and useful as you specialize, and are the cheapest ship"
I mean, this is pathetic how many battleships and cruisers I see today when the majority should be frigates, then cruisers, than battleships. The problem has nothing to do with the insurance length or cost (because when you kill someone, they still need to buy insurance again), it has everything to do with the fact that the players more apt to specialize in frigates or cruisers are the new players, and the cost of these new ships are extremely prohibitive.
I really do hope this changes.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.07.24 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Who on 24/07/2004 18:31:37
Please take the rants somewhere else guys. Glad to hear this is probably just a bug. If a Dev happens to come accross this thread and could post that would be just dandy 
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Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.07.24 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Who on 24/07/2004 18:31:37
Please take the rants somewhere else guys. Glad to hear this is probably just a bug. If a Dev happens to come accross this thread and could post that would be just dandy
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Nyk0n
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Posted - 2004.07.25 06:49:00 -
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2004.07.25 06:34:57notifyYou fail to jump because you are cloaked.
You fail to jump because you are cloaked.
Ihope this is borked as well cos after decloaking, i had a what seemed like 2 hour wait 4 the gate to actully let me jump due to the ever increasing session change time.
So lets recap, we get into the system, cloak, warp to the other gatecloaked, approch the gate cloaked, only to sit there 4 5 mins waiting to jump, cos "Stargate jump already in process" session change.
Wicked
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Nyk0n
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Posted - 2004.07.25 06:49:00 -
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2004.07.25 06:34:57notifyYou fail to jump because you are cloaked.
You fail to jump because you are cloaked.
Ihope this is borked as well cos after decloaking, i had a what seemed like 2 hour wait 4 the gate to actully let me jump due to the ever increasing session change time.
So lets recap, we get into the system, cloak, warp to the other gatecloaked, approch the gate cloaked, only to sit there 4 5 mins waiting to jump, cos "Stargate jump already in process" session change.
Wicked
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GraveDigger
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Posted - 2004.07.26 01:14:00 -
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covert ops cloak needs to work while on auto pilot...
this is a must.
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GraveDigger
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Posted - 2004.07.26 01:14:00 -
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covert ops cloak needs to work while on auto pilot...
this is a must.
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Fuse
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Posted - 2004.07.26 09:34:00 -
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Edited by: Fuse on 26/07/2004 09:36:30
Originally by: Lansfear
Originally by: Kalki Nibiru
I'm glad I havent wasted training on Covert Ops.
I've trained it, but not spending any money on it for a while.
Lets make a neat feature and put it in to the game and price it so a few people will ever want to use it.  
0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |
Fuse
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Posted - 2004.07.26 09:34:00 -
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Edited by: Fuse on 26/07/2004 09:36:30
Originally by: Lansfear
Originally by: Kalki Nibiru
I'm glad I havent wasted training on Covert Ops.
I've trained it, but not spending any money on it for a while.
Lets make a neat feature and put it in to the game and price it so a few people will ever want to use it.
0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |
Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.07.27 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Who on 27/07/2004 02:29:02
A DEV has to have read this thread by now. Can we please get some kind of answer about this? Bug, no bug? Its frustrating to work hard and train to use this only to have it come up short of expectations. It only makes it more frustrating that the problem seems to be being ignored by those that can give an answer.
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Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.07.27 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Who on 27/07/2004 02:29:02
A DEV has to have read this thread by now. Can we please get some kind of answer about this? Bug, no bug? Its frustrating to work hard and train to use this only to have it come up short of expectations. It only makes it more frustrating that the problem seems to be being ignored by those that can give an answer.
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2004.07.27 11:57:00 -
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covert ops cloak needs to work while on auto pilot...
this is a must.
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2004.07.27 11:57:00 -
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Quote:
covert ops cloak needs to work while on auto pilot...
this is a must.
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jukriamrr
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Posted - 2004.07.27 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: jukriamrr on 27/07/2004 20:55:53
Yes please, give us a litle feedback on this, since some of us have been traning for the past month to use this module :-|
Also, when will the 10km decloak range will be UN-implemented?
Thanks :)
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jukriamrr
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Posted - 2004.07.27 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: jukriamrr on 27/07/2004 20:55:53
Yes please, give us a litle feedback on this, since some of us have been traning for the past month to use this module :-|
Also, when will the 10km decloak range will be UN-implemented?
Thanks :)
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PreLuder
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Posted - 2004.07.27 23:32:00 -
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I had the same problem and it is very annoying...I also heard that before the release of the Covert Ops Cloaking Device on the Live Server it went through another turn of coding/balancing. But as it`s released now it really should work like intended. So what`s the problem?
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PreLuder
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Posted - 2004.07.27 23:32:00 -
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I had the same problem and it is very annoying...I also heard that before the release of the Covert Ops Cloaking Device on the Live Server it went through another turn of coding/balancing. But as it`s released now it really should work like intended. So what`s the problem?
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Sheeva
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Posted - 2004.07.28 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Sheeva on 28/07/2004 10:54:10
Edited by: Sheeva on 28/07/2004 10:53:26
Edited by: Sheeva on 28/07/2004 10:52:39
I found something:
Patch Review > Build 1618 Bugs
It`s a bug. Look @ Space and Combat section
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Sheeva
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Posted - 2004.07.28 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Sheeva on 28/07/2004 10:54:10
Edited by: Sheeva on 28/07/2004 10:53:26
Edited by: Sheeva on 28/07/2004 10:52:39
I found something:
Patch Review > Build 1618 Bugs
It`s a bug. Look @ Space and Combat section
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Ma'at
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Posted - 2004.08.02 16:44:00 -
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can we have this fixed soon please.
ive just had my fire p*ssed on
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Ma'at
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Posted - 2004.08.02 16:44:00 -
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can we have this fixed soon please.
ive just had my fire p*ssed on
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.08.03 12:36:00 -
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You also decloak wen someone warps past you,
I was sitting in a belt in Entropy cloaked. A guy warps past me into the belt and I decloak?
He is ofc deccelerationg and I see him on bothmy screen and the scanner. He stops some 20-25 KM from me.
ugh
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.08.03 12:36:00 -
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You also decloak wen someone warps past you,
I was sitting in a belt in Entropy cloaked. A guy warps past me into the belt and I decloak?
He is ofc deccelerationg and I see him on bothmy screen and the scanner. He stops some 20-25 KM from me.
ugh
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lickspittle
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Posted - 2004.08.03 13:59:00 -
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I have made a fix for this internally, it still has to be tested and then it will most likely come out in the upcoming Castor patch.
-- Richard
CCP Programmer. Anything said above is not the official line, but my own take or opinion. |
lickspittle
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Posted - 2004.08.03 13:59:00 -
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I have made a fix for this internally, it still has to be tested and then it will most likely come out in the upcoming Castor patch.
-- Richard
CCP Programmer. Anything said above is not the official line, but my own take or opinion. |
Lansfear
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Posted - 2004.08.03 14:16:00 -
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\o| lickspittle |o/
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Lansfear
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Posted - 2004.08.03 14:16:00 -
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\o| lickspittle |o/
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Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.08.04 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: lickspittle
I have made a fix for this internally, it still has to be tested and then it will most likely come out in the upcoming Castor patch.
You da man!!
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Dr Who
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Posted - 2004.08.04 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: lickspittle
I have made a fix for this internally, it still has to be tested and then it will most likely come out in the upcoming Castor patch.
You da man!!
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.08.04 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kalki Nibiru
Originally by: Lansfear
Originally by: Kalki Nibiru
I'm glad I havent wasted training on Covert Ops.
I've trained it, but not spending any money on it for a while.
Yeah, at 20M a ship, you have got to be kidding. I'm actually apalled that the devs havent released more components to make these ships cheaper.
If they want people to specialize, you need to make sure these interceptors are cheaper than a tier 1 cruiser. The moment that happens, new players are more likely to start thinking "Not only are these ships affordible, but they are also more powerful than the frigate I'm in now, and are a good jumping platform to a cruiser" as the devs add further specialist frigate skills, some new players would be apt to think "I like the fast paced combat of frigates, and these new specializations make it so I can compete in PvP and not die in futility, I think I am going only going to pilot frigates because they become more powerful and useful as you specialize, and are the cheapest ship"
I mean, this is pathetic how many battleships and cruisers I see today when the majority should be frigates, then cruisers, than battleships. The problem has nothing to do with the insurance length or cost (because when you kill someone, they still need to buy insurance again), it has everything to do with the fact that the players more apt to specialize in frigates or cruisers are the new players, and the cost of these new ships are extremely prohibitive.
I really do hope this changes.
Too right! Go frigates!!
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I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.08.04 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kalki Nibiru
Originally by: Lansfear
Originally by: Kalki Nibiru
I'm glad I havent wasted training on Covert Ops.
I've trained it, but not spending any money on it for a while.
Yeah, at 20M a ship, you have got to be kidding. I'm actually apalled that the devs havent released more components to make these ships cheaper.
If they want people to specialize, you need to make sure these interceptors are cheaper than a tier 1 cruiser. The moment that happens, new players are more likely to start thinking "Not only are these ships affordible, but they are also more powerful than the frigate I'm in now, and are a good jumping platform to a cruiser" as the devs add further specialist frigate skills, some new players would be apt to think "I like the fast paced combat of frigates, and these new specializations make it so I can compete in PvP and not die in futility, I think I am going only going to pilot frigates because they become more powerful and useful as you specialize, and are the cheapest ship"
I mean, this is pathetic how many battleships and cruisers I see today when the majority should be frigates, then cruisers, than battleships. The problem has nothing to do with the insurance length or cost (because when you kill someone, they still need to buy insurance again), it has everything to do with the fact that the players more apt to specialize in frigates or cruisers are the new players, and the cost of these new ships are extremely prohibitive.
I really do hope this changes.
Too right! Go frigates!!
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I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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Activor Faust
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Posted - 2004.08.04 10:26:00 -
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Yeah, at 20M a ship, you have got to be kidding. I'm actually apalled that the devs havent released more components to make these ships cheaper.
I think the issue is actually that there are too few BPOs rather than too few components. It would be good if tech II ship BPOs were released at a rate over time rather than on a one off basis, which seems to be the case right now.
For example, you could have 4 BPOs released at introduction, then a further 4 every 3 months after that. This would mean that market prices would decay slowly over time as supply caught up with demand.
AF
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Activor Faust
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Posted - 2004.08.04 10:26:00 -
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Quote:
Yeah, at 20M a ship, you have got to be kidding. I'm actually apalled that the devs havent released more components to make these ships cheaper.
I think the issue is actually that there are too few BPOs rather than too few components. It would be good if tech II ship BPOs were released at a rate over time rather than on a one off basis, which seems to be the case right now.
For example, you could have 4 BPOs released at introduction, then a further 4 every 3 months after that. This would mean that market prices would decay slowly over time as supply caught up with demand.
AF
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