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Melanie Griffin Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.08 00:47:00 - [1] flying a mammoth on a 2nd pc through 0.6 sec with AP. Cargo worth roughly 130m ISK. Realized that i'm beeing agressed, switch on invu field and booster while i still had some 85% shields. Got ganked by a single brutix with Limited Neutron Blaster I. Yeah yeah, don't fly AP, eve is a rough and harsch ...blah. Sorry folks, but this is just bollux. I though CCP already adressed this problem?
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.08 00:49:00 - [2] they did, concord got beefed alot. fit a passive sheild tank to help or as u said just dont auto pilot with anything worth over 50mil in a hauler
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.08 00:50:00 - [3] Originally by: Melanie Griffin Yeah yeah, don't fly AP, eve is a rough and harsh
Gone'Postal Aztec Industry	Posted - 2009.01.08 00:51:00 - [4] Where is crump with his ubersigs of truth when you need him.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2009.01.08 00:51:00 - [5] Originally by: Melanie Griffin flying a mammoth on a 2nd pc through 0.6 sec with AP. Cargo worth roughly 130m ISK. Realized that i'm beeing agressed, switch on invu field and booster while i still had some 85% shields. Got ganked by a single brutix with Limited Neutron Blaster I. Yeah yeah, don't fly AP, eve is a rough and harsch ...blah. Sorry folks, but this is just bollux. I though CCP already adressed this problem? Pure awesome.
Johli Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.01.08 00:55:00 - [6] AP is instagank.
WarlockX Amarr Free Trade Corp	Posted - 2009.01.08 00:56:00 - [7] your cargo is worth 13000% of your ship! that's like putting 2,600,000$ in the back seat of your car and telling us your car got broken into.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.08 00:58:00 - [8] Originally by: Johli AP is instagank. Already Podded
Benco97 Gallente Black Shadow Rangers	Posted - 2009.01.08 01:13:00 - [9] People who do things like this are silly...
Melanie Griffin Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.08 01:15:00 - [10] right. so, beeing not such a smartass, why don't we just remove concord and autopilot?

Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.08 01:25:00 - [11] Edited by: Armoured C on 08/01/2009 01:25:43 Originally by: Melanie Griffin 130m ISK. found your problem now how expensive s the ship your flying it in i say remove concord and let the problem sort it self out
Melanie Griffin Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.08 01:36:00 - [12] Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 08/01/2009 01:25:43 Originally by: Melanie Griffin 130m ISK. found your problem now how expensive s the ship your flying it in I see. So, let me get this straight. That Mammoth costs around one million ISK, right? Am i doomed now to trade items worth less than a million as long as i can't fly a Mastadon? And when i can, i can only trade till some 50m max? Makes ABSOLUTELY sense mate! Well, at least a lot more than to adjust concord and make high sec what high sec should be i say remove concord and let the problem sort it self out
FunzzeR Counter Errorist Unit	Posted - 2009.01.08 01:38:00 - [13] Originally by: Melanie Griffin I see. So, let me get this straight. That Mammoth costs around one million ISK, right? Am i doomed now to trade items worth less than a million as long as i can't fly a Mastadon? And when i can, i can only trade till some 50m max? Makes ABSOLUTELY sense mate! Well, at least a lot more than to adjust concord and make high sec what high sec should be Better idea, smart traders use courier contrants to move stuff. Let someone else take the risks of hauling expensive goods. Nuff said.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.08 01:44:00 - [14] oir better use use transports, they have covert op cloaks for a reason or heavy tanking for a reason put i insist that you continue using t1 hauler to ferry such large amounts of crap the guy who took to risk to take you down shall reap the rewards for you stupidity a toast o/ to humanity , and admiral nior
Leaving Eve	Posted - 2009.01.08 01:56:00 - [15] Just in case you think you will be leaving eve, I want to clarify that I am Leaving Eve. I know, lame, but there aren't many tears for me to suckle on tonight.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.08 01:57:00 - [16] Last month, when the major lag problems started occurring, I had my mammoth fitted with a bunch of rigs and filled with a ton of cargo and I was taking it to 0.4. A simple enough procedure I've done a thousand times with low risk when going manual. As soon as I popped went into the gate, everything hung. The client was fine. The environment simply didn't change. It just sat there for about 90 seconds. Then it flashed from the frozen image of the gate I entered to me in a station having been destroyed and then podded. Mind you, there were NO problems prior to hitting that gate. Things were just fine. It wasn't a busy area. I wasn't having any network problems. Nothing had been occurring before that. I lost a billion ISK worth of implants, cargo and ship. It **ing sucked balls, because I wasn't auto piloting and I wasn't being negligent. ** just happened out of my control. But oh well. I just sucked it up and moved on. -- What's your EVE New Year's Resolution for 2009?
Arkeladin	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:05:00 - [17] Originally by: Melanie Griffin flying a mammoth on a 2nd pc through 0.6 sec with AP. Cargo worth roughly 130m ISK. Realized that i'm beeing agressed, switch on invu field and booster while i still had some 85% shields. Got ganked by a single brutix with Limited Neutron Blaster I. Yeah yeah, don't fly AP, eve is a rough and harsch ...blah. Sorry folks, but this is just bollux. I though CCP already adressed this problem? Okeh, in all seriousness now... 1) CONCORD has NEVER, repeat NEVER "protected" pilots, That's not it's purpose. CONCORD is there to impose a punishment on those who try to gank in highsec - i.e. the loss of their ship. Having insurance int he game, that becomes less of a issue. CCP IS addressing the problem - they have already said they were looking at removing insurance payouts for those who lose their ships to CONCORD. And oh, believe you me when they implement that change the tears from the suicide gankers will flow like wa wide river...a salty, delicious river :) 2) If you're flying a ship with a expensive cargo, you can autopilot if you want - just don't AFK-pilot, as due tot he above you're still a target. the bigger the ship and the larger the cargo, the bigger the bullseye painted on you. That STILL holds true - the recent CONCORD buffs just make sure that the gankers don't waste their time on smaller fry. Mammoths, Itty 5, and such are still viable targets. They're not made to tank, aand there's always the chance that soemone (like you) will come along with a worthwhile cargo...just take cold confort in the fact they didn't get ALL of it. OR, if you know you're dying, self-destruct and spite him, as NOTHING survives self-destruct! Just some thoughts for you
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:09:00 - [18] Not directed at the OP, but on the whole as far as the situation goes : 5pindizzy thinks if it was illegal for characters under 2-3 months old to sell GTC's for isk there would probably be a lot less suicide gank whines on the forum
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:22:00 - [19] Suicide ganks and login traps are two of the worst things about eve PVP. But they're part of the game. For now.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:26:00 - [20] Edited by: Armoured C on 08/01/2009 02:28:21 Originally by: Arkeladin 1) CONCORD has NEVER, repeat NEVER "protected" pilots, That's not it's purpose. CONCORD is there to impose a punishment on those who try to gank in highsec - i.e. the loss of their ship. Having insurance int he game, that becomes less of a issue. CCP IS addressing the problem - they have already said they were looking at removing insurance payouts for those who lose their ships to CONCORD. And oh, believe you me when they implement that change the tears from the suicide gankers will flow like wa wide river...a salty, delicious river :) i think you will find CCP didnt say that and they said it is not a real buisness but a game mechanic, but looking into alternatives meaning , it will either a, nothing will happen or b it is implemented far far down the line after all the important thing are out the way although i dont suicide gank it is a legitmit way to earn isk in eve and well if you dumb enough to be a target then in all respect you deserve it and to the guy who lost a bill plus worth of stuff your problem is that you went into low sec with out a scout ... you would of noticed that there were red and not have lost it =P but least i hope you learned which i still think the op hasnt yet

Scarlet Pimpdaddy Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:27:00 - [21] Don't listen to these guys! The solution to your problem can be found here
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:28:00 - [22] You should never be entirely safe outiside of maybe 1.0 anyway. Why should it be zero risk in .5 and assloads of risk in .4? Just accept that you have to be on your toes at all times.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:32:00 - [23] Originally by: Qordel You should never be entirely safe outiside of maybe 1.0 anyway. Why should it be zero risk in .5 and assloads of risk in .4? Just accept that you have to be on your toes at all times. agreed we need more suicide gankers please report to jita 4-4 ready for stalking
Sera Ryskin	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:37:00 - [24] Originally by: Melanie Griffin I though CCP already adressed this problem? You assume that there is a problem. There isn't.
Melanie Griffin Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:38:00 - [25] @ Amoured C my stupidity? man, get help! @Qordel well, you know, there is no lag in eve. Lost a Mega 3 days ago the same way. jumped out while hostiles still had aggro, couldn't do a thing for about 90 secs and when i finally was able to, i was already in armor and tackled ... @ Arkeladin I know. Concord provides consequences, not safety. Problem is, there are no consequences as well. Can u say insurance? And don't even mention sec status. 2) i did it semi afk on a second pc while playing BF2. Can i be arsed to manually fly 25 jumps through highsec and get bored to death? Can i be arsed not beeing able to fly a T2 ship? Allthough T2 wouldn't help much, it would only require more brutix to blow me up and i would have lost another 50m for the ship, which is of course uninsurable. @ Scarlet I don't think i need a baby just right now ..
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:45:00 - [26] Originally by: Melanie Griffin 2) i did it semi afk on a second pc while playing BF2. Can i be arsed to manually fly 25 jumps through highsec and get bored to death? Can i be arsed not beeing able to fly a T2 ship? Allthough T2 wouldn't help much, it would only require more brutix to blow me up and i would have lost another 50m for the ship, which is of course uninsurable. wow your more unclued that i thought, and sound like you didnt learn a lesson, so i will spell this one out to you transport ships blockade runner can use covert op cloaks ( you know the ones which allow you to cloak while warping ) and the other class of transport has +2 warp core strength which means he need at least 2 short range piots ( which have 2 warp strength ) to hold you or 3 normal 25km points on you to stop you. if it is a single brutix which has 4 midslots -1 for the ship scanner probably SB on his ship i highly doubt he has enough points on his ship to catch you get a clue before casting a actual helpful legmit ship class aside >_>
Mickey Simon Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:49:00 - [27] I'm not sure if you realise this, but the industrials have really ****ty tanks (battle variants are a different story). A frigate has a semi-decent chance of killing one in a few seconds, it's not unstrange that a gank fitted brutix will kill you before concorde shows up. Meanwhile, on the other side of town . . .
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.08 02:52:00 - [28] oo and transport ship have double Armour and shield with much better resists
Nikita Alterana Gallente The Antikythera Mechanism	Posted - 2009.01.08 03:03:00 - [29] Originally by: Leaving Eve Just in case you think you will be leaving eve, I want to clarify that I am Leaving Eve. I know, lame, but there aren't many tears for me to suckle on tonight. you sir. Deserve a medal.
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.01.08 03:06:00 - [30] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 08/01/2009 03:06:42 Amazingly in before "THIS IS SPARTA!" edit: Gatecamp Thermopylae tbh



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