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EB Xile
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Posted - 2004.07.25 10:52:00 -
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(/Start rant) Having heard about it by many a fellow eve player after the gun nerf, I made the decision last month to adapt, as whining would do little to bring my viable 425/350 rail megathron back. I trained the skills, bought the gear, and now I'm flying guess what? a Raven . I've been in it for a day now and let me tell you that I'm very happy w/ my new ship. The shild tanking is awesome, missiles rock versus my old guns, and it's damn easy to fit(no splitting hairs over tracking mods). I'm a happy camper.
however, this kind of worries me though as I get to thinking. Is that how it's supposed to work? Do the devs want us to adapt to the gun nerf by switching to another race's battleships? I just wonder how long it will be untill everyone "adapts." And when they nerf missiles, will the new "adaptation" be to switch to mega-beam Apocs? If so, then what's next? I guess what I'm trying to get at is that there must be a better way to balance the game than a never-ending string of nerfs. Oh boy, I can smell the flame-thrower fuel already. (/end rant) _______________________________________________ Don't look at me like that, you knew I was posion when you picked me up! |

EB Xile
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Posted - 2004.07.25 10:52:00 -
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(/Start rant) Having heard about it by many a fellow eve player after the gun nerf, I made the decision last month to adapt, as whining would do little to bring my viable 425/350 rail megathron back. I trained the skills, bought the gear, and now I'm flying guess what? a Raven . I've been in it for a day now and let me tell you that I'm very happy w/ my new ship. The shild tanking is awesome, missiles rock versus my old guns, and it's damn easy to fit(no splitting hairs over tracking mods). I'm a happy camper.
however, this kind of worries me though as I get to thinking. Is that how it's supposed to work? Do the devs want us to adapt to the gun nerf by switching to another race's battleships? I just wonder how long it will be untill everyone "adapts." And when they nerf missiles, will the new "adaptation" be to switch to mega-beam Apocs? If so, then what's next? I guess what I'm trying to get at is that there must be a better way to balance the game than a never-ending string of nerfs. Oh boy, I can smell the flame-thrower fuel already. (/end rant) _______________________________________________ Don't look at me like that, you knew I was posion when you picked me up! |

Meridius
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Posted - 2004.07.25 10:58:00 -
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Specialization in eve is practically impossible.(as a fighter)
You have to be a jack of all cause the nerf bat will go round and round until the end of time
I'm sure with the upcoming missle changes we'll be in 'WTS: Raven' land.
I'm training ceptors atm, not by choice i assure you  ________________________________________________________
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.07.25 10:58:00 -
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Specialization in eve is practically impossible.(as a fighter)
You have to be a jack of all cause the nerf bat will go round and round until the end of time
I'm sure with the upcoming missle changes we'll be in 'WTS: Raven' land.
I'm training ceptors atm, not by choice i assure you  ________________________________________________________
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Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.07.25 10:59:00 -
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There are no nerf's....
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Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.07.25 10:59:00 -
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There are no nerf's....
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Hellek
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Posted - 2004.07.25 11:03:00 -
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What? Raven is good? Judging by all the posts here, I thought it would totally suck as it can not tank, cruise missiles deal hardly any damage as the target warps out and shields are totally useless anyway.
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Hellek
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Posted - 2004.07.25 11:03:00 -
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What? Raven is good? Judging by all the posts here, I thought it would totally suck as it can not tank, cruise missiles deal hardly any damage as the target warps out and shields are totally useless anyway.
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Dave10
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Posted - 2004.07.25 11:04:00 -
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"There are no nerf's...."
except for making guns that cost more than frigates un able ti hit frigates
Missiles are next in line for the nerf i think 
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Dave10
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Posted - 2004.07.25 11:04:00 -
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"There are no nerf's...."
except for making guns that cost more than frigates un able ti hit frigates
Missiles are next in line for the nerf i think 
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EB Xile
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Posted - 2004.07.25 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Broc Vallion There are no nerf's....
lol, are you for real?
TomB himself refers to the changes as nerfs. Hell, just read his sig for cyring out loud!!! _______________________________________________ Don't look at me like that, you knew I was posion when you picked me up! |

EB Xile
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Posted - 2004.07.25 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Broc Vallion There are no nerf's....
lol, are you for real?
TomB himself refers to the changes as nerfs. Hell, just read his sig for cyring out loud!!! _______________________________________________ Don't look at me like that, you knew I was posion when you picked me up! |

Kar Harkuna
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Posted - 2004.07.25 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: EB Xile
Originally by: Broc Vallion There are no nerf's....
lol, are you for real?
TomB himself refers to the changes as nerfs. Hell, just read his sig for cyring out loud!!!
These aren't the nerf's you're looking for - move along.
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Kar Harkuna
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Posted - 2004.07.25 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: EB Xile
Originally by: Broc Vallion There are no nerf's....
lol, are you for real?
TomB himself refers to the changes as nerfs. Hell, just read his sig for cyring out loud!!!
These aren't the nerf's you're looking for - move along.
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Grim Vandal
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Posted - 2004.07.25 16:26:00 -
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muahahah missile BALANCE is coming soonÖ and after that drones will be tuned wooooot
You guys complain but it seems to me you forget to see the whole picture! NO, I wont tell you .. go figure it out on your own!!!
The only downside of this balancing is that we cant get every change at once which leads to people that think guns have been nerfed while e.g. missiles are ubber! (btw missile are balanced in terms of BS vs BS but not vs smaller targets like BS vs cruiser and frigs but the upcoming missile change will address it)
enuf said
Greetings Grim |

Grim Vandal
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Posted - 2004.07.25 16:26:00 -
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muahahah missile BALANCE is coming soonÖ and after that drones will be tuned wooooot
You guys complain but it seems to me you forget to see the whole picture! NO, I wont tell you .. go figure it out on your own!!!
The only downside of this balancing is that we cant get every change at once which leads to people that think guns have been nerfed while e.g. missiles are ubber! (btw missile are balanced in terms of BS vs BS but not vs smaller targets like BS vs cruiser and frigs but the upcoming missile change will address it)
enuf said
Greetings Grim |

Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.07.25 16:46:00 -
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At least in Eve if you don't like something you can sell your ship and get another one or just change your setup. Imagine if it was some lame fantasy MMORG and you were some sort of level 40 elf and they nerfed elves and you couldn't just add a PDU and fix it. That would suck.
People tend to get mad when their ub3r setup that they found that wtfpwns everything is nerfed. If it's that uber then the Devs probably never intended for it to be ingame and it should be changed.
The Tempest finally got nerfed. Look back through this forum for threads that are pre Projectile 'nerf', see if you see ANY threads complaining about the Tempest. There aren't any. Everyone was complaining about the Apoc and lasers. If people aren't complaining then you should worry, it usually means the ship is ub3r and people are trying to keep it quiet.
If people are complaining then it means the ship is 'normal' and that they are just whining because that's what most of y'all tend to do all day.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |

Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.07.25 16:46:00 -
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At least in Eve if you don't like something you can sell your ship and get another one or just change your setup. Imagine if it was some lame fantasy MMORG and you were some sort of level 40 elf and they nerfed elves and you couldn't just add a PDU and fix it. That would suck.
People tend to get mad when their ub3r setup that they found that wtfpwns everything is nerfed. If it's that uber then the Devs probably never intended for it to be ingame and it should be changed.
The Tempest finally got nerfed. Look back through this forum for threads that are pre Projectile 'nerf', see if you see ANY threads complaining about the Tempest. There aren't any. Everyone was complaining about the Apoc and lasers. If people aren't complaining then you should worry, it usually means the ship is ub3r and people are trying to keep it quiet.
If people are complaining then it means the ship is 'normal' and that they are just whining because that's what most of y'all tend to do all day.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |

Sardau Kar
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Posted - 2004.07.25 17:01:00 -
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There are no nerfs in this game,lies.
Move along...
Damn,I cant believe my own lies anymore,its just not good.

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Sardau Kar
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Posted - 2004.07.25 17:01:00 -
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There are no nerfs in this game,lies.
Move along...
Damn,I cant believe my own lies anymore,its just not good.

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Drunthil
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Posted - 2004.07.25 17:18:00 -
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Personally, I think missiles need to have splash damage reintroduced since they only explode on the target fired now, and they also need to have an arming delay to give them a minimum range ...as they stand now there is no downside to missiles other than a minor delay in when damage occurs ..not at all like it is for guns --and this holds true for BS vs BS as well as the other kinds of ship vs ship combat.
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Drunthil
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Posted - 2004.07.25 17:18:00 -
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Personally, I think missiles need to have splash damage reintroduced since they only explode on the target fired now, and they also need to have an arming delay to give them a minimum range ...as they stand now there is no downside to missiles other than a minor delay in when damage occurs ..not at all like it is for guns --and this holds true for BS vs BS as well as the other kinds of ship vs ship combat.
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