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Goran Konjich University of Caille Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2012.04.16 11:53:00 - [1] - Quote Hi , i would like someone to explain to me why is generally better to shield armor Cynabal rather than armor tank it. And i would like to see here if anyone has some good armor and shield fits. TIA
churrros Ministry of War Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2012.04.16 12:01:00 - [2] - Quote because cynabals are mostly used for their speed and autocannons benefit greatly from tracking enhancers that uses up low slots. Armor tanking it usually means you have to use plates and armor rigs which will decrease the speed advantage. Even if speed wasn't and issue, Its hard to fit tracking enhances with gyros when you are armor tanking.
Goran Konjich University of Caille Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2012.04.16 12:26:00 - [3] - Quote thanks a lot, sounds very reasonable ... i always forget armor tanking goes into low slots and shield tanks are going into mid ones another thing : what if i prefer artillery and not autocannons , artillery has better tracking speed if im correct so i might not use TE and use only Gyros ... is this ok ? + AB for capacitor stability = some kind of speed tank from distance (like 20km + 15, so 27km would be ok )
Denuo Secus 47	Posted - 2012.04.16 12:52:00 - [4] - Quote Goran Konjich wrote: thanks a lot, sounds very reasonable ... i always forget armor tanking goes into low slots and shield tanks are going into mid ones another thing : what if i prefer artillery and not autocannons , artillery has better tracking speed if im correct so i might not use TE and use only Gyros ... is this ok ? + AB for capacitor stability = some kind of speed tank from distance (like 20km + 15, so 27km would be ok ) It's vice versa. Arty is THE worst tracking turret in game. Auto cannons are the second best tracking. Also: if you want arty and distance, you want to maintain this distance. This is not possible with AB. You'll need a MWD.
Jack Miton Lapse Of Sanity Exhale. 180	Posted - 2012.04.16 13:00:00 - [5] - Quote if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal.
FT Diomedes Factio Paucorum 43	Posted - 2012.04.16 13:15:00 - [6] - Quote Somehow, I get the sense that the OP is thinking more about PvE than PvP. If you are thinking about PvP, lose a few dozen Stabbers and Ruptures before you graduate to the Cynabal.
Goran Konjich University of Caille Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2012.04.16 13:25:00 - [7] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal. if youre replying to this thread, you probably shouldnt be reading it in the first place
Niko Takahashi United Starbase Systems 29	Posted - 2012.04.16 13:38:00 - [8] - Quote Goran Konjich wrote: Jack Miton wrote: if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal. if youre replying to this thread, you probably shouldnt be reading it in the first place That might be but it does not make his comment invalid. If you do not know the difference between the auto-cannons and artillery you should be flying a rupture not a Cynabal.
Goran Konjich University of Caille Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2012.04.16 13:44:00 - [9] - Quote Niko Takahashi wrote: Goran Konjich wrote: Jack Miton wrote: if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal. if youre replying to this thread, you probably shouldnt be reading it in the first place That might be but it does not make his comment invalid. If you do not know the difference between the auto-cannons and artillery you should be flying a rupture not a Cynabal. its all fine ... i admit i am confused ... but nonetheless im not flying Cynabal. I'm just interested ... but as expected there are some really satisfying answers as always and i'm thankful for them.
Torothin Wrecking Shots Test Alliance Please Ignore 46	Posted - 2012.04.16 13:45:00 - [10] - Quote OP, The Cyn is meant to be a hit and run ship Guerilla warefare PvP ship. It works best with groups of Vagabonds, other Cyn's, Rapiers, Hughins, and sometimes scimmy's. Your speed and agility is your tank. This is not a PvE ship. Under no circumstance what so ever should this be a PvE ship. This is also a viable solo option if you fit ti correctly. This ship excels at small gang 0.0 warfare.
Fireflyb1 Mind's Haven 5	Posted - 2012.04.16 13:45:00 - [11] - Quote Niko Takahashi wrote: Goran Konjich wrote: Jack Miton wrote: if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal. if youre replying to this thread, you probably shouldnt be reading it in the first place That might be but it does not make his comment invalid. If you do not know the difference between the auto-cannons and artillery you should be flying a rupture not a Cynabal. Yeah but Jack's post is just to appear superior and douchey :P
Niko Takahashi United Starbase Systems 30	Posted - 2012.04.16 14:49:00 - [12] - Quote Fireflyb1 wrote: Niko Takahashi wrote: Goran Konjich wrote: Jack Miton wrote: if youre asking this question, you probably shouldnt be flying a cynabal. if youre replying to this thread, you probably shouldnt be reading it in the first place That might be but it does not make his comment invalid. If you do not know the difference between the auto-cannons and artillery you should be flying a rupture not a Cynabal. Yeah but Jack's post is just to appear superior and douchey :P That it is but it is correct however since he is asking for info only and not flying the ship all is good. As far as comments that Cynabal is not PVE ship 100 % spot on tired it for lvl3's Fun factor high no problem doing any lvl3 with 900+ with the Afterburner but still not good pve ship.
Mia Trouble Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.05.05 04:23:00 - [13] - Quote Torothin wrote: OP, This is not a PvE ship. Under no circumstance what so ever should this be a PvE ship. Is this law because i'm breaking it ? Are you the one to stop me or anyone else from using the cynabal for pve I'll fly what i want where i want when i want within accordence to the game mechanics so unless the pirate ships get thrown out of high sec i'm gonna keep using them I am optimistically pessimistic-á
The Atomium Global Song Setup 2	Posted - 2012.05.05 04:29:00 - [14] - Quote [Cynabal, gotta go fast] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I you can switch out the DC II against a second TE II. aka Luba Cibre
Mia Trouble Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.05.05 05:34:00 - [15] - Quote (Mission runner Cyn) Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Target Painter II 10MN Afterburner II Shield booster II EM Ward Amplifier II Thermic Dissipation Amp II 425mm AutoCannon II, Ammo Mission spec 425mm AutoCannon II, Ammo Mission spec 425mm AutoCannon II, Ammo Mission spec 425mm AutoCannon II, Ammo Mission spec Medium Nosferatu II Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Medium Projectile metastasis adjuster Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator Makes a perfect lvl 3 and 4 runner I am optimistically pessimistic-á
Viribus Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 44	Posted - 2012.05.05 05:39:00 - [16] - Quote The Atomium wrote: [Cynabal, gotta go fast] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I you can switch out the DC II against a second TE II. No, you switch out the nano for a second TE. The cynabal doesn't need to be faster or more agile, it needs more range and tracking. Also: >T2 MWD >Invuln and not a third LSE or an AB Jesus christ how horrifying
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns 117	Posted - 2012.05.05 06:04:00 - [17] - Quote The Atomium wrote: [Cynabal, gotta go fast] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I you can switch out the DC II against a second TE II. Less EFT, moar l2p There should be a rather awesome pic here
Klown Walk Black Rebel Rifter Club 82	Posted - 2012.05.05 10:48:00 - [18] - Quote If you can afford a crystal set and have access to links: [Cynabal, New Setup 1] Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster Invulnerability Field II Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner Dark Blood Warp Scrambler Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Valkyrie II x5

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