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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2009.01.11 14:46:00 -
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Damage Control II 5x Reinforced Bulkhead II Reactor Control II
Quad Lif MWD Warp Disruptor II Web II 2x Heavy Cap Injector II
5x Heavy Unstable Heavy Neut Large Remote HULL Rep
2x Ancillary Current Router I Auxiliary Thrusters I
5x Large Combat Drones
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.01.11 14:54:00 -
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drop the RCU for another bulkhead and drop the speed rig for another pg rig. |
nemmes
Celestial Ascension
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:02:00 -
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why hulltank may i ask? "Take me up in the arms of fate, with the strength of conviction and the hope of dreams" |
P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:17:00 -
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"heh, he's droppin like a sack of ****." "boss, we have hostiles incoming." "just stay a bit longer, he's in hull already." |
Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw drop the RCU for another bulkhead and drop the speed rig for another pg rig.
If you do that, you need to drop one of the cap boosters down from T2 to a named one or plug in a +1% PG2 implant. For bonus marks, add a ZET 3000 implant, for another 5% hull HP. --- Can't afford that BPO? Look here. 20:1 mineral compression The EVE f@h team |
Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw drop the RCU for another bulkhead and drop the speed rig for another pg rig.
I originally had that however I was trying to avoid a 3rd ancillary rig to save 25 mil.
The speed rig is to offset the slowness of the bulkheads somewhat - and they penalize armor which is irrelevant for this setup.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro For bonus marks, add a ZET 3000 implant, for another 5% hull HP.
I like it - any other implant suggestions?
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: nemmes why hulltank may i ask?
As p'uck shows - its a good bait, however there are other reasons as well.
Domi gets a drone damage bonus - unlike other low slot heavy ships, which would need to fill up their low slots with some damage mods for their weapon types.
Domi has more hull than armor.
Bulkheads use no power grid (something 5x heavy neuts will eat up in short order).
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Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.11 16:13:00 -
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An armor tanked domi will still come out on top ehp wise even with the rcu and 5 heavy neuts. In case you use slaves its not even close anymore.
Also i think fitting 3 x fitting mod (rigs included) just to operate 5 x heavy neuts is a bit silly(especially given the price). What exactly are they gonna do 3 heavies and 3 meds won't do for you? Well unless you're neuting capitals that is in which case there are still tons of better ships out there for this usage imo.
But yes if you absolutely must hull tank a domi and it absolutely needs 5 heavy neuts but you can absolutely not afford the third acr or any helpful rig then thats probably how you would do it. But i still wouldn't do it ever - just for the record. so hf --
Originally by: kublai on Ankhesentapemkah That said, the "i'm a girl who plays your computer game and i'm not that ugly" has always been a certain winner in the mmo world
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2009.01.11 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Myra2007 An armor tanked domi will still come out on top ehp wise even with the rcu and 5 heavy neuts. In case you use slaves its not even close anymore.
Also i think fitting 3 x fitting mod (rigs included) just to operate 5 x heavy neuts is a bit silly(especially given the price). What exactly are they gonna do 3 heavies and 3 meds won't do for you? Well unless you're neuting capitals that is in which case there are still tons of better ships out there for this usage imo.
But yes if you absolutely must hull tank a domi and it absolutely needs 5 heavy neuts but you can absolutely not afford the third acr or any helpful rig then thats probably how you would do it. But i still wouldn't do it ever - just for the record. so hf
Hmmm - good points - surprise would pretty much the only use for this ship then.
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Galia Bonaventure
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Posted - 2009.01.11 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: Galia Bonaventure on 11/01/2009 22:59:58 I find a disturbing lack of Hull Repairers in your fitting
:-P
Edited: Local Hull Repairers |
Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.01.12 00:05:00 -
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That's a thought - we have rigs for increasing shield & armour hp but not hull hp... |
Tchelor
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Posted - 2009.01.12 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Tchelor on 12/01/2009 00:41:45
Originally by: Galia Bonaventure Edited by: Galia Bonaventure on 11/01/2009 22:59:58 I find a disturbing lack of Hull Repairers in your fitting
:-P
Edited: Local Hull Repairers
Dunno; it seems like an interesting passive tank; 50%ish omni resist, only active drain is the DCU, which is negligible; and with the neut setup there's not gonna be a lot of spare cap. |
Kulmid
Club Bear
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Posted - 2009.01.12 06:10:00 -
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[Dominix, Hull Tank] Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Damage Control II
ECCM - Magnetometric II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Hybrid Burst Aerator I Hybrid Burst Aerator I [empty rig slot]
Ogre II x5
over 1k DPS with overloaded guns and goes 907 with an overloaded MWD
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hellsknights
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.01.12 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tchelor Edited by: Tchelor on 12/01/2009 00:41:45
Originally by: Galia Bonaventure Edited by: Galia Bonaventure on 11/01/2009 22:59:58 I find a disturbing lack of Hull Repairers in your fitting
:-P
Edited: Local Hull Repairers
Dunno; it seems like an interesting passive tank; 50%ish omni resist, only active drain is the DCU, which is negligible; and with the neut setup there's not gonna be a lot of spare cap.
60% resist accross the board. |
Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2009.01.12 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Galia Bonaventure Edited by: Galia Bonaventure on 11/01/2009 22:59:58 I find a disturbing lack of Hull Repairers in your fitting
:-P
Edited: Local Hull Repairers
60 second rep cycles suck ass. Remote hull reps cycle way faster and are more efficient than local hull reps.
Originally by: Kulmid [Dominix, Hull Tank] Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Damage Control II
ECCM - Magnetometric II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II 100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Hybrid Burst Aerator I Hybrid Burst Aerator I [empty rig slot]
Ogre II x5
over 1k DPS with overloaded guns and goes 907 with an overloaded MWD
May as well just go with a standard gank domi with armor. The neuts are there to kill the cap on your victim who's too overconfident at melting your shields/armor - only to realize its too late that he has no cap and your hull isn't going anywhere fast. |
Solar Ray
Vanishing Point
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Posted - 2009.01.12 19:27:00 -
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Problem with hull tanked Domi is that there is no easy way to repair the hull once you're out of the fight. The setup itself is a valid one, I think. Can be cheap, vicious and surprising all at once. However, unless you have a buddy with a few remote hull reppers, you will have a great trouble repairing that cracked hull. |
Opertone
Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.01.12 21:51:00 -
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hull taking is great, but when you take structure damage your FPS may drop very low... it's the fire that isn't coded very well, it causes major lag
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