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BrundleMeth	Posted - 2009.01.11 23:49:00 - [1] I have been playing FPS games for 15 years. DOOM, QUAKE I, II, III, IV, Unreal Tournament, 2K3, 2K4 III. etc. etc. I decided to expand my gaming horizons and after listening to a co-worker talk to me about Eve Online for many a day, I decided to sign up for 3 months... But coming to the forums here, it seems like a lot of people are un-happy with the gaming experience here. Am I right or full of crap? By the way I am a 51 year old PC Gamer of 20 years as well as my lovely wife who plays also. So far i am having a lot of fun anyway just training to get some skills...
Cereah	Posted - 2009.01.12 00:09:00 - [2] I think a lot of people who dont like the game dont understand. You cant play this with expectations it'll be like some other MMO. Very in depth, You can do absolutely anything in the game with any character. It's up to the user though to make their goals, which some people cannot do. Find a good corp and the game becomes a lot more fun.
Joe Starbreaker Starbreaker Frigateers	Posted - 2009.01.12 00:14:00 - [3] Forums are for complaining! Actually we all love this game, that's the only reason we bother. You'll love it, too.
BrundleMeth	Posted - 2009.01.12 00:15:00 - [4] Thanks... I definately plan to stick with it, According to my buddies stories it sounds great. I really like the steep learning curve and the work required to succeed.
Dani SP Caldari Rupture Farms Mining	Posted - 2009.01.12 00:35:00 - [5] Another newbie here. Cheers! Great to know some mature people plays this game. In fact it rules that the game costs 10-15 bucks per month, that keeps childs outta here :) My suggestions as a noob are the following: - Play some trial accounts before signing for full acc. OK, I guess its too late. OK then I still suggest you to get another trial and TRY things. Learn what can be done and what not. Shoot a dude and check what happens. etc. - Organize your learning skills. They are the most important at first. OK don't get mad if you need some other basic skills like spaceship ones, mining, etc. - Join a corporation, but first of all put some effort on meeting people who can be interesting and match your thoughts and goals before joining. Players are everywhere, you can be killed by a dude and then become his friend :)
Bo'Tox Amarr Arkor Inc	Posted - 2009.01.12 00:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Forums are for complaining! Actually we all love this game, that's the only reason we bother. You'll love it, too. This is the reality of it....
BrundleMeth	Posted - 2009.01.12 01:06:00 - [7] Good Advice Dani. Yes, I already paid for a full account. So far, I am finding I can't seem to do too much without getting some skills learned first. I would like to join a corporation but being a noob at this, I don't want to waste other peoples time or ruin their fun because of my lack of experience. We'll see how it goes for now. Woo Hoo !!!
Tzar'rim Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.12 01:46:00 - [8] I'm an older gamer as well although (thankfully) not your age hehe, and there's lots of us. The thing with this game it that it requires effort, thought and some patience. And you just know how well that works for most people, hence they whine about making stupid, avoidable and costly mistakes and then blame the game for it. If you're into playing things the smart way there's no better MMO than this one.
BrundleMeth	Posted - 2009.01.12 02:59:00 - [9] Tzar'rim I know exactly what you mean. I just listened to a profanity filled exchanged on You Tube from a player that lost 200 Million ISK that took him 2 months to earn mining. He was livid with the fellow for killing him in game and said he wanted to kill the guy in real life with an axe. He said he was 27 years old too. The guy definately needs some therapy...
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.01.12 04:10:00 - [10] Originally by: BrundleMeth I have been playing FPS games for 15 years. DOOM, QUAKE I, II, III, IV, Unreal Tournament, 2K3, 2K4 III. etc. etc. I decided to expand my gaming horizons and after listening to a co-worker talk to me about Eve Online for many a day, I decided to sign up for 3 months... But coming to the forums here, it seems like a lot of people are un-happy with the gaming experience here. Am I right or full of crap? By the way I am a 51 year old PC Gamer of 20 years as well as my lovely wife who plays also. So far i am having a lot of fun anyway just training to get some skills... you seem alright, the other people are the ones full of crap welcome

BrundleMeth	Posted - 2009.01.12 15:45:00 - [11] Yeah I'm ok. I just wanna have a good time playing and meeting some new people online...
Lechert M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.01.12 16:06:00 - [12] I as well am a long time (older) gamer...this game has so much depth it takes a while to get just how involved it is...I am still learning and having a blast The NEW M.Corp Data Hub - Check it out!
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2009.01.12 19:45:00 - [13] Well, I'm 57 so I've got you beat. Team with your wife and you can help each other out. If you came from the FPS world ... where all people do is kill each other ... you'll probably get along fine here. I came from Planetside. The difference here - is that you can spend a good bit of your real life (like weeks or months) acquiring something in this game and then lose it in a heart beat. So there is a very stiff penalty for losing here - whereas in Planetside - all you did was respawn and run to the ET to get more free stuff. Another thing to keep in mind - is that while some of the people on these forums are very helpful - those same people - may just slit your throat in the game for the fun of it. So look out. Besides blowing you up - there are all kinds of scams to cheat you out of your stuff - which is perfectly within the rules of this game. I think that a lot of the people who have trouble here come from an RPG back ground where, though they have PK'rs ... they aren't ready for EVE where it's much more prevalent. Someone has a sig that shows a picture of the undocking symbol and a quote that says something like "Pressing this is agreeing to non-consensual PVP" - which about sums it up. Anyway, GL & Fly Safe!
Tandin The Knights Templar Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.01.12 22:43:00 - [14] Originally by: Dani SP Another newbie here. Cheers! Great to know some mature people plays this game. In fact it rules that the game costs 10-15 bucks per month, that keeps childs outta here From my experience (about 13 months of playing since the Trinity release), most of the people playing this game fall in the 20-40 range with a good number in the 20-25 age bracket. You'll find many outside of that group though. Oh, and I'm 35.
Psiri	Posted - 2009.01.13 11:55:00 - [15] EVE can be quite a cold place and it demands initiative taken from the player for it to be a worthwhile experience, hence many are unsatisfied with the game. That's not the only reasons though, it's a very hard game to get into due to its depth and the nature of the skillpoint system. That being said though, the CCP community likes to whine because they know from experience that whine is power.
Mirime Nolwe Caldari Red Core	Posted - 2009.01.13 12:22:00 - [16] I-¦m new as well, started playing at 27 december but had a trial experience 3 years ago. I only have 27 but played games since i remember.. This game can seems a bit lonely and its hard to find a suitable corp that fits to your goals, atleast i-¦m having some issues finding one.. But i believe that the game experience will be very good with the right corp.
Latrodanes Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.01.13 13:26:00 - [17] Welcome to EvE. Toshiro and the others have definitely summed up the "EvE Experience" but I will add one more thing - the sheer depth. Almost every single day, I discover something else about this game. A new way to play, fit my ship, new goal, or new career. "Shiny ball" syndrome!! This is truly a sandbox and it is filled with a lot of other players, some are doing the same as you and some not so much. Some can complement your own activities, while others work at cross purposes in whatever endeavor you pursue. PS - You're lucky to have a wife to help you out. I've just gotten mine to finally accept EvE as the "other woman". At least she knows where I am. *** Had a T1 sig - it got all blowed up. Got another T1 sig - it got all blowed up too. Can't afford another T1 sig...yet. Still training for T2 sigs, f...ing newb that I am.
Gartel Reiman Civis Romanus Sum	Posted - 2009.01.13 13:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Latrodanes PS - You're lucky to have a wife to help you out. I've just gotten mine to finally accept EvE as the "other woman". At least she knows where I am. Heh - that's exactly what my other half refers to EVE as, as well. "Unfaithful" internet spaceship captains, unite! To answer the OP in a less completely-irrelevant way, what drew me to EVE was the depth, as well as the responsibility for your own actions. The latter especially, in the sense that your actions have consequences - getting blown up because you took a foolish risk, knowingly or unknowingly, can really hurt, and blowing your top at that trigger-happy fellow can result in your corp getting wardecced, and you getting expelled, etc. Additionally, you have responsibility for your own actions in that there is no hand-holding and little actual restrictions on what you can do or how you play - so with a little knowledge, research, intelligence and common sense you can easily outdo people many times your age and with many more skill points. You know the old adage "work smarter, not harder"? It's like that in EVE, only it's more like "Play smarter, not with-more-skillpoints". When I joined I read and read everything I could on EVE, asked questions on things I couldn't understand and got involved with a good corp who could show me the ropes ins a more hands-on fashion. I took the time to try out various aspects so I got to see and understand the EVE universe from a well-rounded perspective. Doing this really increased my enjoyment, and meant I never suffered from the "but I'll never catch up to the older players" syndrome. What I really love about EVE is that the pen is mightier than the sword. Ironically, the bigger and better the "swords" I get, the more I see that this is true.
BrundleMeth Caldari Interstellar Academy	Posted - 2009.01.13 19:25:00 - [19] Edited by: BrundleMeth on 13/01/2009 19:28:40 Yes, having a supportive wife is great. One time she was complainng to her mother about me spending money on hardware. Her mother said "Well at least he is at home with you every night". Once she started playing Unreal Tournament with me there everything became a blast. My computer room: Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Dedalus77 Junkyard Dogs	Posted - 2009.01.13 20:10:00 - [20] Welcome to EVE, always nice to see other adults around. My favorite things about EVE are the learning curve and that it is a true sandbox, of course those are the two things that often discourage newer players as they don't want to invest the time to learn and they want a game to tell them what to do. My advice to you (as it is to all new players) is to 1) figure out what you think you might want to do (coming from FPS I'm going to guess pvp), then 2) research what it takes to do that thing well (there are guides online for every EVE profession) and 3) plan out your skills training based on what you want to do (tools like EVEmon are invaluable). There are plenty of things a new player can do to earn isk while waiting for skills to train for whatever it is that they "really" want to do. Enjoy and happy gaming.

Temugen Universal Assembler Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:50:00 - [21] Originally by: BrundleMeth So far, I am finding I can't seem to do too much without getting some skills learned first. This is the one flaw new ppl think they have found when they join eve at first. Its not what you can and cant do, its the scale you do it on. You can do anything in eve at this point just now. The most important thing to remember is you MUST do it on a smaller scale. The key to being new in eve is to start small and work your way up. Just remember you MUST start small. If you try to do everything in eve on an experienced player's lvl you will quickly become discouraged. Feel free to convo or mail me if you need advice or have a problem that you dont understand. Also remember that you can find lots of corps/alliances in eve that take on new players and some that are actually set up just to train new players. GL and fly safe. I LOVE CAREBEARS! They're tasty! >: ]
Mal Lokrano Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:10:00 - [22] Originally by: Mirime Nolwe I-¦m new as well, started playing at 27 december but had a trial experience 3 years ago. I only have 27 but played games since i remember.. This game can seems a bit lonely and its hard to find a suitable corp that fits to your goals, atleast i-¦m having some issues finding one.. But i believe that the game experience will be very good with the right corp. haha you started playing on my birthday Anyways to the OP, welcome and enjoy your time in Eve, There are alot of cool people on here, all you got to do is find them. ____________________________________________ When going to a party with wine, women, and song. Always acertain the vintage of the first two.
BrundleMeth Caldari Interstellar Academy	Posted - 2009.01.14 02:39:00 - [23] Dedalus77 Yes, I do want to play PVP and I am training in Electronic Warfare and Missles right now...
Dani SP Caldari Rupture Farms Mining	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:49:00 - [24] Originally by: BrundleMeth Tzar'rim I know exactly what you mean. I just listened to a profanity filled exchanged on You Tube from a player that lost 200 Million ISK that took him 2 months to earn mining. He was livid with the fellow for killing him in game and said he wanted to kill the guy in real life with an axe. He said he was 27 years old too. The guy definately needs some therapy... wtf!!!!! by the way nice computer room lol. Is that a Dell 2007WFP?
el caido School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:20:00 - [25] Edited by: el caido on 14/01/2009 21:20:08 Once upon a time, I was in the same boat as you, Meth. I played/play almost nothing but FPS, but my boss (lol) sent me an invite to EVE. I had never played any other MMOWTFAMIDOINGWITHMYLIFERPG ever ... What can I say? Four years later, I'm splitting my gaming time between shooters and New Eden. EDIT: Welcome to EVE.
Ocar Ix Minmatar Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:21:00 - [26] You should check out the EVE university, it's a corporation set up to help people learn EVE and get started, I've been in a few weeks and it's been great so far
Kirala Hcsirf Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:25:00 - [27] Thoughts from a total noob: I'm an older (40) curmudgeonly type, happily married to a wonderful woman and with a 'normal' social life (albeit too much beer, probably). But I'm an old wargamer, and still loved to stay up late playing strategy games...but I have avoided MMORPGS and FPS my entire life. Just never did it for me -- I really hated all my FPS experiences. Finally I thought I'd take the MMO plunge, looked around for months to see which one I might try, a friend turned me onto EvE, and I fully expected to be bored within a week. And...holy cannoli, it's sucked me in totally. For what it's worth, it really seems to attract a more mature, thinking, detail oriented and, well, intelligent gamer than many others as far as I can tell. I admit my experience is pretty limited, but it sounds like you've come to the right place. Sure, there are some real immature kids out there, and sure the forums can be pretty harsh sometimes (a fact I decry), but overall, I really believe this is the game for mature players. I'm totally entranced with it. And as for my wife, well, she says hey its better than you surfing p0rn! My two cents.
Johnson Johnson	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:48:00 - [28] ITT: Old people I kid I kid. If Eve was populated by the same age group as certain other MMOs, it would fall flat on its face. This is what sets it aside.
InSession Shuugouteki	Posted - 2009.01.14 22:11:00 - [29] Just ignore the flaming, and trash talking that goes on these forums. We all love EVE deep down
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.01.14 22:32:00 - [30] Quote: I kid I kid. If Eve was populated by the same age group as certain other MMOs, it would fall flat on its face. This is what sets it aside. age=maturity c/d? Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.

permion	Posted - 2009.01.15 04:17:00 - [31] You can think of forums as a type of customer support with a little bit of socializing tossed in. Now when you call or write to customer support people ever so rarely write good stuff, if a company bragged about getting 1 compliment phone call out of 5,000 that would totally be worth bragging rights.
Atur Kha	Posted - 2009.01.19 20:33:00 - [32] Originally by: BrundleMeth Yeah I'm ok. I just wanna have a good time playing and meeting some new people online... Hey BrundleMeth look me up online. Older player here also (40) , brand new to the game and loving it...


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