EVE Search - The Harsh Truth About Casual/Solo Players

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

The Harsh Truth About Casual/Solo Players

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 :: [one page]
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
masternerdguy Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate 241	Posted - 2012.04.16 21:07:00 - [1] - Quote You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages? Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest. Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time. More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo. Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content. Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship. Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive. Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP. Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it. Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss. Things are only impossible until they are not.
Montevius Williams Eclipse Industrial Inc Order of the Void 275	Posted - 2012.04.16 21:09:00 - [2] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages? Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest. Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time. More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo. Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content. Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship. Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive. Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP. Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it. Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss. I agree 100% that changes like these should not be implemented. That said, if someone wants to play EVE online alone, who am I to tell them otherwise. It's their 15 bucks a month, not mine.
Doc Fury Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 764	Posted - 2012.04.16 21:10:00 - [3] - Quote The Harsh Truth About "masternerdguy" You must be really lonely and need to post for attention. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.'
Kattshiro Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 65	Posted - 2012.04.16 21:10:00 - [4] - Quote Poor business plan to only cater to people that have 6 - 8 hours a day to blow on a game. You can in fact have content for both groups... I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc)
Subdolus Venator State War Academy Caldari State 23	Posted - 2012.04.16 21:12:00 - [5] - Quote Montevius Williams wrote: I agree 100% that changes like these should not be implemented. That said, if someone wants to play EVE online alone, who am I to tell them otherwise. It's their 15 bucks a month, not mine. ^^ This. EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.
theocratis 3	Posted - 2012.04.16 21:33:00 - [6] - Quote people who play alone are potential recruits that have not yet met eye to eye with a like minded player.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids 999	Posted - 2012.04.16 21:57:00 - [7] - Quote I play alone because people bug me and I'm like a honey badger, I don't give a **** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 3796	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:01:00 - [8] - Quote I am one such of these solo casualist, and I absolutely hate this list almost with a burning passion. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Commit Sudoku Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:04:00 - [9] - Quote your ass is grass
Herping yourDerp Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 503	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:05:00 - [10] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: The Harsh Truth About "masternerdguy" You must be really lonely and need to post for attention. this
Aqriue Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 559	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:13:00 - [11] - Quote Masternerdguy's theme song playing in his head everytime he posts to gain attention
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate 634	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:13:00 - [12] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Tired, worn and lame canard. Regardless of playing in a huge alliance, in a corp by your self or in an NPC corp, we are all playing with and against everyone else as soon as we log on.
Whitehound 106	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:15:00 - [13] - Quote OMG. It is a friend request.
Elzon1 Shadow Boys Corp Bloodbound. 25	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:17:00 - [14] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages? Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest. Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time. More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo. Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content. Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship. Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive. Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP. Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it. Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss. Small holdings- Sure, so long as no one wants to compete over you with it and you can keep the rat population down enough to warrant your claim on SOV. More Concord- You know, the hulk isn't the only ship that can mine... did no one teach you cost/profit analysis? Bigger Solo ISK Faucets- Sure, so long as you are lucky, high skilled, and extremely sneaky. Its called stealing/ganking in case you were wondering. Fleet Balancing- The "Titan" class ship used to have an A.O.E that made sup-cap fleet scurry like little ants Perhaps we shall add some projected A.O.E as we don't like people blobbing up into incoherent masses. Buy/Trade/More SP- Sure, we will eventually implement transferable attribute points so you can effectively buy faster training from other players with attribute points to spare. Reimbursement- Sure, just pay the insurance premiums. Ship hulls aren't free you know. Dueling System- We were thinking of creating some arena type areas in high sec with entrance fees, rankings, and prizes. If you can get enough people to scream and whine on the forums for it, maybe we will implement it.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1117	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:21:00 - [15] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time. More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo. Thought this was a sand box, who are you to tell me how I should play? You fail to understand that high sec is the safest place for grieffers, not for pve or regular pvp dudes. Grieffing is against CCP's rules and Concord mechanics abuses/exploits deserve a special treatment, and when those are not functioning properly or bug they must be reviewed. Players feedbak is important to change things in the game that are game breaking of bad experience for the community or a part of it, even if it's the part of it you hate. Quote: Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content. Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship.[/quote] The very best solo content I've ever experienced in Eve is exploration and null sec exploration rewards, solo sanctums in null sec (yummy rats at 1.5M bounty and +) and gank, those activities don't need team work and I can do it whenever I have some time, plus my loss or risk are very small while rewards are huge except ganking. [qute] Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive. Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP. Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it. Quote: For each of your issues above you have Plex, please refer to your account management and how to buy plex or find an official retailer and profit immediately of your favourite game: -buy awesome toons on toons bazaar -change/trade plex for isk and buy an empire with your loneliness, isk is your best friend. -pay isk to merc alliances and win at EvE. Buy your plex, now You didn't saw what I did here but doesn't really matter. Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss. I agree 100% that changes like these should not be implemented. That said, if someone wants to play EVE online alone, who am I to tell them otherwise. It's their 15 bucks a month, not mine.[/quote]
Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 201	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:23:00 - [16] - Quote MMORPG Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game Trying to play solo in an MMORPG is like expecting to play a shooter game without getting shot at. Point is, if you play solo you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you don't want to play with others you should not be accommodated for.
Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 671	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:26:00 - [17] - Quote I play EVE casually, and I like it mostly the way it is, aside from some ships being totally useless (we shall see what CCP has in store for us on that front).
Micheal Dietrich Standards and Practices 282	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:28:00 - [18] - Quote I play with myself though I group in game.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1117	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:29:00 - [19] - Quote Corina Jarr wrote: I play EVE casually, and I like it mostly the way it is, aside from some ships being totally useless (we shall see what CCP has in store for us on that front). That's the part I'm afraid of.
Rengerel en Distel Khanid Research Corporation 41	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:32:00 - [20] - Quote Fredfredbug4 wrote: MMORPG Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game Trying to play solo in an MMORPG is like expecting to play a shooter game without getting shot at. Point is, if you play solo you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you don't want to play with others you should not be accommodated for. You realize MULTIPLAYER means that more than one person is playing it at the same time, not that you have to play with those people, right? Oh, from your statement, I guess you don't. Don't assume bad intent, when stupidity is the much more likely cause.
Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 672	Posted - 2012.04.16 22:33:00 - [21] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Corina Jarr wrote: I play EVE casually, and I like it mostly the way it is, aside from some ships being totally useless (we shall see what CCP has in store for us on that front). That's the part I'm afraid of. yeah... I hope they spend more than the usually amount of time having us play with their changes on Sisi.
Karl Hobb Imperial Margarine 100	Posted - 2012.04.16 23:06:00 - [22] - Quote The harsh truth about solo players will only be exposed if you open the door after knocking loudly and receiving no response. As for casual players, well, they'll generally leave the door open anyway. "Fun fact: carebears are not necessary for the game to function." --áTippia
Alpheias Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse 599	Posted - 2012.04.16 23:12:00 - [23] - Quote Casual and solo players ought to stick with the Wii. Perhaps get a Wii fit and have it delivered to the door? I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more
Zowie Powers Hole in the wall 72	Posted - 2012.04.16 23:13:00 - [24] - Quote I always make a point of believing any thread that has the word "Truth" in the title, the more capital letters they use, the more I will believe them.
Tikktokk Tokkzikk Glorious Revolution The 99 Percent 64	Posted - 2012.04.17 00:06:00 - [25] - Quote Who decidied that MMO means playing WITH players and not AGAINST players?
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1117	Posted - 2012.04.17 00:12:00 - [26] - Quote Tikktokk Tokkzikk wrote: Who decidied that MMO means playing WITH players and not AGAINST players? Someone having English comprehension issues.
Ayuren Aakiwa Wyvern Operations 18	Posted - 2012.04.17 00:13:00 - [27] - Quote Didn't read most of the thread, but every person that is convinced 'dueling' should be in eve should be lit on fire... Also +1 op, your doing it right I traded my free aurum for a recon ship, so thanks I guess.
Cipher Jones The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars 470	Posted - 2012.04.17 00:19:00 - [28] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages? Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest. Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time. More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo. Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content. Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship. Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive. Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP. Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it. Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss. Anybody that pays for their monthly subscription with real world money can play casually. Their complaints are irrelevant until they start costing CCP money, just like the rest of us. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast.
scooter Kondur Pyramid Celestial 83	Posted - 2012.04.17 00:24:00 - [29] - Quote Not everyone wants to play in a goon blob so i dont see why eve cant make a clone of itself and that way i could play on the eve server that isnt run by goons editting, bad eve can wear a mmoustache and good eve would have nice skin
Ayuren Aakiwa Wyvern Operations 18	Posted - 2012.04.17 00:25:00 - [30] - Quote scooter Kondur wrote: Not everyone wants to play in a goon blob so i dont see why eve cant make a clone of itself and that way i could play on the eve server that isnt run by goons editting, bad eve can wear a mmoustache and good eve would have nice skin Go back to maplestory online Edit: this applies to a few of you in this thread.... I traded my free aurum for a recon ship, so thanks I guess.
Killer Gandry V I R I I Ineluctable. 267	Posted - 2012.04.17 00:26:00 - [31] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: Some ranting Show me where the evil Carebear touched you.
Jonah Gravenstein 148	Posted - 2012.04.17 01:17:00 - [32] - Quote MMORPG. Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game The important parts are underlined, they are not mutually exclusive but neither are they inclusive. Eve is multiplayer, some people role play at being part of something bigger, others just happen to role play at being lone wolfs, neither is a wrong way to play. In that respect an MMO is much like life, you can succeed either way. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside.
Cearain Imperial Outlaws 325	Posted - 2012.04.17 01:43:00 - [33] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: MMORPG. Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game The important parts are underlined, they are not mutually exclusive but neither are they inclusive. Eve is multiplayer, some people role play at being part of something bigger, others just happen to role play at being lone wolfs, neither is a wrong way to play. In that respect an MMO is much like life, you can succeed either way. I agree. I think people including the op confuse a massively multiplayer game universe with "team play." Of course there can be benefits when you team up in any universe including the real one. But the rewards are also decrease when you have to share them. Eve is trying to hard to force people to team up with by artificially paying higher amounts for incursions if they are done as a team. IMO Its ruining the andbox feel. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Mars Theran EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance 132	Posted - 2012.04.17 02:17:00 - [34] - Quote theocratis wrote: people who play alone are potential recruits that have not yet met eye to eye with a like minded player. Yeah.. you're dreaming there. The very fact that you said "potential recruits" just shows how much you know about them, but keep hoping. Turn WiS into wIN! ..make all the characters Nude.
Vangelios Hedion University Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2012.04.17 02:21:00 - [35] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss. Not so black and white. There is nothing wrong with being Space Entrepreneur. Also there is nothing wrong with being part of a hive, with strict hierarchy, rules and thingies. It's matter of personal taste (goals) and freedom of choice. PS. "Entrepreneurs become what they are for several reasons. Many, depending on the person, choose to do so to avoid workplace drama, discrimination, being taken advantage of, or just to be their own boss" (source wiki) ...-áEach small candle Lights a corner of the dark...
Fredfredbug4 Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control 201	Posted - 2012.04.17 02:26:00 - [36] - Quote Rengerel en Distel wrote: Fredfredbug4 wrote: MMORPG Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game Trying to play solo in an MMORPG is like expecting to play a shooter game without getting shot at. Point is, if you play solo you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you don't want to play with others you should not be accommodated for. You realize MULTIPLAYER means that more than one person is playing it at the same time, not that you have to play with those people, right? Oh, from your statement, I guess you don't. I am well aware. That was not the point of my post. I did not claim that you have to play with others. What I did say was that by trying to play alone you are intentionally putting yourself at a disadvantage. I guess bolding and capitalizing a word at the same time grabbed too much attention. Learn to read the entire post before responding.
Richard Hammond II Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 182	Posted - 2012.04.17 02:39:00 - [37] - Quote Cearain wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: MMORPG. Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game The important parts are underlined, they are not mutually exclusive but neither are they inclusive. Eve is multiplayer, some people role play at being part of something bigger, others just happen to role play at being lone wolfs, neither is a wrong way to play. In that respect an MMO is much like life, you can succeed either way. I agree. I think people including the op confuse a massively multiplayer game universe with "team play." Of course there can be benefits when you team up in any universe including the real one. But the rewards are also decrease when you have to share them. Eve is trying to hard to force people to team up with by artificially paying higher amounts for incursions if they are done as a team. IMO Its ruining the andbox feel. anyone role playing is doing something wrong in EVE Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Tikktokk Tokkzikk Glorious Revolution The 99 Percent 67	Posted - 2012.04.17 02:48:00 - [38] - Quote The quote and edit buttons look far too alike.
Bluddwolf Heimatar Military Industries 19	Posted - 2012.04.17 02:49:00 - [39] - Quote Fredfredbug4 wrote: MMORPG Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game Trying to play solo in an MMORPG is like expecting to play a shooter game without getting shot at. Point is, if you play solo you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you don't want to play with others you should not be accommodated for. I fly solo, but I chat in the Minmatar chat room almost constantly. Doesn't this qualify as MMORPG? To join Heimatar Military Industries-á visit website or conatct Bluddwolf in-gamewww.hmi.guildlaunch.com
Richard Hammond II Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 182	Posted - 2012.04.17 02:55:00 - [40] - Quote the harsh truth about casuals is theyll never be happy in a game like this and should find a new one. Theyre like the aliens from independance day. But casuals descend on a game, *** and moan to make it the way they want, create all kinds of change away from the creators' vision FOR the game, then flit off to the next big title, leaving the game they JUST infested broken and destroyed. Bluddwolf wrote: Fredfredbug4 wrote: MMORPG Massive MULTIPLAYER** Online Role Playing Game Trying to play solo in an MMORPG is like expecting to play a shooter game without getting shot at. Point is, if you play solo you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you don't want to play with others you should not be accommodated for. I fly solo, but I chat in the Minmatar chat room almost constantly. Doesn't this qualify as MMORPG? wtf chat rooms? Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Aggressive Nutmeg 176	Posted - 2012.04.17 02:57:00 - [41] - Quote Never been one to join the masses. I generally play alone. Who has time to do what somebody else wants me to do? No thank you, sir. The only players I occasionally play with are a bunch of guys running a small-time corp based in my home city. I actually know and drink with these real people. Having pretend, online friends is still just sad and creepy to me. Apologies to the majority of players out there, but can't help thinking what I think. Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Cearain Imperial Outlaws 327	Posted - 2012.04.17 02:58:00 - [42] - Quote Richard Hammond II wrote: Cearain wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: MMORPG. Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game The important parts are underlined, they are not mutually exclusive but neither are they inclusive. Eve is multiplayer, some people role play at being part of something bigger, others just happen to role play at being lone wolfs, neither is a wrong way to play. In that respect an MMO is much like life, you can succeed either way. I agree. I think people including the op confuse a massively multiplayer game universe with "team play." Of course there can be benefits when you team up in any universe including the real one. But the rewards are also decrease when you have to share them. Eve is trying to hard to force people to team up with by artificially paying higher amounts for incursions if they are done as a team. IMO Its ruining the andbox feel. anyone role playing is doing something wrong in EVE The marketing really got to you but I'm sorry to say Eve is not real. You are role playing a character in eve. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Lyrrashae Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition 270	Posted - 2012.04.17 02:59:00 - [43] - Quote Whitehound wrote: OMG. It is a friend request. [/thread] The invention of ice-hockey is proof that Canada deserves to rule the world. Eh.
Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 673	Posted - 2012.04.17 03:02:00 - [44] - Quote On the subject of dueling, it already is in EVE. Go to Rancor, shout in local "want 1v1" and pray. Alternatively, rub a rabbit's foot.
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 416	Posted - 2012.04.17 03:02:00 - [45] - Quote Richard Hammond II wrote: the harsh truth about casuals is theyll never be happy in a game like this and should find a new one. Theyre like the aliens from independance day. But casuals descend on a game, *** and moan to make it the way they want, create all kinds of change away from the creators' vision FOR the game, then flit off to the next big title, leaving the game they JUST infested broken and destroyed. this right here Corina Jarr wrote:** On the subject of dueling, it already is in EVE. Go to Rancor, shout in local "want 1v1" and pray. Alternatively, rub a rabbit's foot. alternatively do that and spell "run" https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909 My stance on WiS (updated)
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1120	Posted - 2012.04.17 03:03:00 - [46] - Quote Cearain wrote: You are role playing a character in eve. Then why should I get a ban if I tell you to go kill yourself when I'm role playing my character? And why should my post be deleted by an ISD guy when I'm role playing my character in this forum with some goon insulting my char of idiot? Why so serious?
Grumpymunky Super Monkey Tribe of Danger 100	Posted - 2012.04.17 03:06:00 - [47] - Quote Corina Jarr wrote: Go to Rancor... Go back to SW:TOR Post with your monkey.
RAP ACTION HERO Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2012.04.17 03:12:00 - [48] - Quote op has a point, it is one thing to play solo as is, but another to whine to ccp about getting more crutches.
Jonah Gravenstein 148	Posted - 2012.04.17 03:21:00 - [49] - Quote << casual, solo, not leaving anytime soon War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside.
Ban Bindy Bindy Brothers Pottery Association 104	Posted - 2012.04.17 03:33:00 - [50] - Quote Everybody in this game whines and posts to ask for things that will help their style of play. It's not just the casual players. But a game that doesn't offer any place or any help for casual players is going to die. In case you haven't noticed, this game stopped growing its player base a while back. Older players get stronger and stronger, and new players start playing in a deeper and deeper hole. Plain simple fact that is a consequence of the way the game is designed. Older players learn more and more ways to make the game miserable for new players, and revel in it. Chat in local is nasty and mean to the point of absurdity. We're all manipulating a big database on a server, but most players somehow think their testosterone is involved. Everybody is a homo, everything is gay, you need to grow a vagina, you mad bro? u sound mad bro? nothing but constant smack and nastiness. You're really an inviting bunch to spend time with. The decent corps where you don't hear **** used as the verb of choice are rare. So yes, this is a group game, for sure. Groups of what is the question.
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate 637	Posted - 2012.04.17 03:36:00 - [51] - Quote Ban Bindy wrote: Older players learn more and more ways to make the game miserable for new players, and revel in it. Not all older players do. Just the ass hats, and those come in all ages.
Simetraz State War Academy Caldari State 211	Posted - 2012.04.17 03:41:00 - [52] - Quote OP The Harsh Truth About Casual/Solo Players They don't care what you say or anyone else. (they are solo players so they don't interact with anyone.) They also don't read the forums., and surely won't waste their time posting on them. So your comments about casual solo/ casual players are well very inaccurate
Kestrix UV Heavy Industries 12	Posted - 2012.04.17 03:55:00 - [53] - Quote Quote: Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. I have no problem with people suggesting things as I have faith in CCP to see a bad idea. As long as people are happy to make suggestions they will keep coming, it does not matter that 99% of them are bad it's worth it for the 1% that are good.
Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 468	Posted - 2012.04.17 03:59:00 - [54] - Quote Im a solo player and ive never heard of that list and would not support it. Living in the cracks is a far better game than a huge blobbing political alliance. PLus i just dont have the time to invest for roams etc etc (see how i tell you im solo and manage to look down my nose at anyone who is in a corp/alliance. Nice work on my part) I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 416	Posted - 2012.04.17 04:00:00 - [55] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Cearain wrote: You are role playing a character in eve. Then why should I get a ban if I tell you to go kill yourself when I'm role playing my character? And why should my post be deleted by an ISD guy when I'm role playing my character in this forum with some goon insulting my char of idiot? Why so serious? you have issues telling reality from in game... you should stop playing before you hurt yourself ppl like you gave D&D a bad name in the '60s https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909 My stance on WiS (updated)
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.04.17 04:26:00 - [56] - Quote Solo is not hard to do nor make money doing. Mining. Its just boring (unless during Hulkageddon) Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Markus Reese Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION 117	Posted - 2012.04.17 04:48:00 - [57] - Quote Just pointing out, the solo game in eve is great. People are whining about having troubles with the non solo part of eve. Well, hopefully ABCs get fixed and they can bring covert haulers into pie space and mine.
Tiberius Amzadee The Omega Sovereign Flux Initiative 15	Posted - 2012.04.17 05:11:00 - [58] - Quote The harsh truth about casual/solo players. 1.Don't have to deal with the headache of managing more then one person to get things done. 2.A clean schedule free of commitments and deadlines set by the collective. 3.Too small and insignificant as an entity to be harassed in most cases.(It is EVE after all) 4.Too lazy to command more then one person at a time anyway. 5.All the profits go to me,myself,and I. 6.Will always play as no other game currently has no equal to depth and value of the EVE gaming experience. 7.Internet Spaceships are even more of a serious business as we can only afford or build so many ships ourselves at a time. 8.We simply freaking love space.
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 456	Posted - 2012.04.17 05:28:00 - [59] - Quote theocratis wrote: people who play alone are potential recruits that have not yet met eye to eye with a like minded player. +1 The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 597	Posted - 2012.04.17 05:46:00 - [60] - Quote More evidence why he's not called MasterMINDguy. MNG, if we PAID you would you STOP thinking? Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold
Bill Lane Carebear Mafia 18	Posted - 2012.04.17 06:01:00 - [61] - Quote Tiberius Amzadee wrote: The harsh truth about casual/solo players. 1.Don't have to deal with the headache of managing more then one person to get things done. 2.A clean schedule free of commitments and deadlines set by the collective. 3.Too small and insignificant as an entity to be harassed in most cases.(It is EVE after all) 4.Too lazy to command more then one person at a time anyway. 5.All the profits go to me,myself,and I. 6.Will always play as no other game currently has no equal to depth and value of the EVE gaming experience. 7.Internet Spaceships are even more of a serious business as we can only afford or build so many ships ourselves at a time. 8.We simply freaking love space. Very good Tiberius. Was just getting ready to post pretty much the same thing. OP: I have participated in big alliances and small highsec corps. Miner/cap pilot. Now I am a casual/solo miner, and i haven't been asking for handouts. I play when I want, how I want, for however long I want. Nobody depends on me. Have 3 accounts that I use for my own enjoyment. Once in a while I do get to fleet up with a friend in system, but rarely. And I have my friends in game that I always socialize with and we don't use real names, so I'm pretty sure that takes care of my multiplayer and role playing parts. And to be completely honest, I see a hell of a lot more whining about game mechanics from big blob alliance folks than from solo players. Not saying that your list is bad, as I'm really not crying about anything on it. But I'd appreciate it if you'd not make it sound like every casual/solo player is just a whiny *****, because I for one am not. To be honest, all of the casual/solo players I know haven't asked for anything on your list, and I am frequently reading the forums. To summarize: if you wanna cry about people whining and begging to get game mechanics changed, do some research and see who the majority are. Thanks
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 92	Posted - 2012.04.17 06:49:00 - [62] - Quote Simple fix for casuals/solo-ers: Looking For Fleet (aka LFG) should have some sort of bonus, whether it be straight up bonus ISK while on a mission or something similar to LPs...hell, maybe even LPs; that way you don't have to group to get items. What would be nice is if they'd implement Dust 514 into EVE, and let players do "Hot Drops" into battle matches similar to a Halo match...just something to do when you're bored of playing solo, but don't want the "YOU ******* X-UP OR CORP-KICK!" that tends to come with active corps.
Mark Androcius 27	Posted - 2012.04.17 07:13:00 - [63] - Quote The OP probably got some sand in her P*ssy. I hate the average human being, they are stupid, ignorant and egotistical. this however, does not mean i hate working with people, as long as they are none of the before mentioned. You most likely though, are not one of the people I'd like to team up with. Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs.
Rico Minali Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension 553	Posted - 2012.04.17 07:18:00 - [64] - Quote Everyone gets the same rules no matter how often you play, keep it that way. As for needing to dedicate 8 hours a day.. No. I ceo a very successful nullsec pvp corp and I only play a couple of hours 4 to 6 times a week. Its about playing smart, not playing hard. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Roime Shiva Furnace 481	Posted - 2012.04.17 07:42:00 - [65] - Quote On some forums, people are banned for badposting.
Ciar Meara Virtus Vindice 593	Posted - 2012.04.17 08:08:00 - [66] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time. I really don't want to be forced to join a bunch of guys I don't know that might take all my stuff because they can. I rather invest time and money and effort in building something nice with friends, that in turn can offcourse can be taken away by other guys, because they can. I don't see the problem here, your complaining about a possible influx in 0.0 targets? masternerdguy wrote: Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship. Numbers are important in a fight, no doubt. But some kind of tactics besides the blob would be nice. Besides numbers aren't always important. Caesars fight against Pompey had 500 cavalry facing 5000, the 500 defeated the blob of 5000 which was released as one handely and handed the fight to caesar. Another victory that comes to mind are the victory at salamis where a big persian fleet was forced to fight a nimble greek fleet in an inlet and the defeat that was a victory of Thermoplaye. Or you can take Cannae as an example on how to kill a blob. On the other hand there are plenty of examples of numbers winning the day (Russia (WWII), France (Napoleon), WWI, etc). A balance should be struck there, but it should be a balance, not a one sided idea of numbers = win masternerdguy wrote: Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss. EVE isn't a game that is "intended" to be anything. You can do what you want CCP gives options. The options should be clearly free of any kind of "idea" how to play the game. Hence, sandbox. You shouldn't be forced to join a 5000+ alliance You shouldn't be forced to have fleetfights of 2000+ We should be able to make a living and fun hanging out in smaller groups and friends We should be able to have fights of significance with small, medium and larger fleets under 500 ships and win against large groups because of tactics. (see latest clarion call for excellent fitting during fight options) We should be able to have large meaningful 5000+ alliances We should have meaningful fleet fights of 2000+ masternerdguy wrote: Discuss. We should always, always, discuss. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Jastra Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 71	Posted - 2012.04.17 08:13:00 - [67] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: The Harsh Truth About "masternerdguy" You must be really lonely and need to post for attention. hehe, I was thinking the same
Sasha Azala Blood and Decay 219	Posted - 2012.04.17 08:17:00 - [68] - Quote Jastra wrote: Doc Fury wrote: The Harsh Truth About "masternerdguy" You must be really lonely and need to post for attention. hehe, I was thinking the same I was going to quote the same thing, so I'll settle for quoting you quoting the same thing. Note to self: Stop posting in a masternerdguy thread.
Laviski UK Corp RAZOR Alliance 1	Posted - 2012.04.17 08:17:00 - [69] - Quote +1 for OP if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.
Lady Spank Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 2085	Posted - 2012.04.17 08:29:00 - [70] - Quote I know it's just another attempt at humour from the OP but this time it's actually mildly amusing. I am a solo player and have absolutely zero interest in any of the things stated in the original post B) (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
Ank Parkor WildSpace Otters 17	Posted - 2012.04.17 08:31:00 - [71] - Quote EVE is a solo game with ennemies having sometimes great AI. Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions.
TheBlueMonkey Natural Progression 129	Posted - 2012.04.17 09:19:00 - [72] - Quote Kattshiro wrote: make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc) BUZZER What is NPC 0.0?
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3359	Posted - 2012.04.17 11:18:00 - [73] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages? Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest. Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time. More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo. Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content. Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship. Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive. Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP. Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it. Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss. masternerdguy made a sensible OP I was there Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Cearain Imperial Outlaws 328	Posted - 2012.04.17 13:22:00 - [74] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Cearain wrote: You are role playing a character in eve. Then why should I get a ban if I tell you to go kill yourself when I'm role playing my character? And why should my post be deleted by an ISD guy when I'm role playing my character in this forum with some goon insulting my char of idiot? Why so serious? Its funny how the anti-roleplay people have a difficult time seperating the game from reality. Just some general tips: 1) If you are posting on these boards about a computer game called EVE you are not "in the game." 2) If you show up publicly as a real person, at a real event and talk about eve mails you received which address a persons real life issues, you are not "in game." If your character tells my character to go kill himself then you shouldn't be banned. But it needs to be clear from the context that your character is telling my character to kill himself. Since we are currently on a computer game forum talking about possible changes to a computer game it would be hard to see how you could claim its your character talking. (see number 1 above.) However if you are in the game and you see my characters ship jump through a gate and say "kill Cearain in the merlin" Or even just "kill him" or even post in local "you're gonna die" its easy to see you mean that in game. Yes there may be cases where its not so clear from the context. But it seems the anti-roleplay crowd often don't understand even the easy cases. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Cearain Imperial Outlaws 328	Posted - 2012.04.17 13:27:00 - [75] - Quote Lady Spank wrote: I know it's just another attempt at humour from the OP but this time it's actually mildly amusing. I am a solo player and have absolutely zero interest in any of the things stated in the original post B) Of course you don't. Its just another red herring from someone who has some self esteem issues about how they play a computer game. OP no one is judging you for how you play a computer game. So you shouldn't feel the need to make up bs about what others do to make yourself feel better. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Asuka Solo Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises 1422	Posted - 2012.04.17 13:36:00 - [76] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship. . You forgot about the whole "I don't want my fleet gang banged by 10 Titans, so please nerf supers so my rifter can get sum" dimension.
Romar Agent Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 16	Posted - 2012.04.17 14:08:00 - [77] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest. Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time. More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo. Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content. Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship. Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive. Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP. Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it. Who said that? I haven't heard anyone complain.
MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 293	Posted - 2012.04.17 14:26:00 - [78] - Quote Ayuren Aakiwa wrote: Didn't read most of the thread, but every person that is convinced 'dueling' should be in eve should be lit on fire... Also +1 op, your doing it right i think the whole point of a dueling system is to have ships lit on fire... though ccp already said they are working on a dueling system by enhancing the mutual war dec system via the merc market... PLEX FOR PIZZA! TECH iii MINNING SHIPS!
FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks 1311	Posted - 2012.04.17 14:26:00 - [79] - Quote Kattshiro wrote: I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc) It's called w-space. Set up shop in a C1/2 with a C1 or C2 static. You can solo everything you find. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you.
Jonah Gravenstein 150	Posted - 2012.04.17 14:31:00 - [80] - Quote My day job involves working in a team, they're a bunch of useless gits if not pushed TBH, so why would I want to repeat the experience in something I do for fun?. In game I'm my own boss, I do what I want, when I want and as little or as much as I want. I don't moan about getting ganked, I don't tell people that don't play the way I play that they're doing it wrong (looks at certain hi-sec professions) and above all I'm not out to ruin the game, if my play style ruins your game by being different then I have a bucket ready for filling War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside.
Lfod Shi Lfod's Ratting and Salvage 8	Posted - 2012.04.17 15:05:00 - [81] - Quote Funny, I don't recall complaining about flying solo or asking for special treatment. GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½
Sukmee Nou Helt paa tur 0	Posted - 2012.04.17 15:26:00 - [82] - Quote Kattshiro wrote: Poor business plan to only cater to people that have 6 - 8 hours a day to blow on a game. You can in fact have content for both groups... I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc) How to Miss Understand. Marry her
Wacktopia Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 236	Posted - 2012.04.17 16:50:00 - [83] - Quote Montevius Williams wrote: That said, if someone wants to play EVE online alone, who am I to tell them otherwise. It's their 15 bucks a month, not mine. Yeah well I pay 15 bucks a month and I want a massive cannon that I can fire anywhere I want. Cannon plz. If you're in a player corp then war-dec is just something you have to accept is coming with it, regardless of your play-style. ~CCP
Markus Reese Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION 119	Posted - 2012.04.17 16:59:00 - [84] - Quote I think that solo eve, or small group is one of the best parts of eve. Tactially is the most challenging since need well planned fleets and tactics, covert operations for low and null pve is excellent since you fight tough npcs without powerships, solo/casual play is great. It is larger group stuff that needs more work.
Manssell OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate 63	Posted - 2012.04.17 17:09:00 - [85] - Quote Leaving aside the Op's ridiculous straw man caricature. I enjoy playing solo mostly because it makes people like the Op sad/mad/cry.
Kattshiro Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 72	Posted - 2012.04.17 17:10:00 - [86] - Quote Sukmee Nou wrote: Kattshiro wrote: Poor business plan to only cater to people that have 6 - 8 hours a day to blow on a game. You can in fact have content for both groups... I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc) How to Miss Understand. Marry her Shes not the marrying type... (They say communication is key which she lacks) point in fact you can do better.
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.04.17 17:12:00 - [87] - Quote Manssell wrote: Leaving aside the Op's ridiculous straw man caricature. I enjoy playing solo mostly because it makes people like the Op sad/mad/cry. Me too Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Meryl SinGarda Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team 467	Posted - 2012.04.17 17:15:00 - [88] - Quote I disagree with your post, sir. Once again, we have someone who plays one way and thinks everyone else should play that way too. CEO of B.U.T.T. -á(recruitment is open) Twitter: @MerylSinGarda http://EVEportraits.com
LocalHost Gyro Industries 0	Posted - 2012.04.17 17:15:00 - [89] - Quote Kattshiro wrote: Poor business plan to only cater to people that have 6 - 8 hours a day to blow on a game. You can in fact have content for both groups... I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc) I was just saying the same thing in another thread. Eve is indeed a sandbox and arguably the best sandbox game available for quite some time. The only reason 9 years later I still play is that I CAN decide to PVP in a group 1 year, and then take a break and do some PI or invention/manufacturing, or god forbid even spank some roids for production. I even took a small break but still logged in to play the market, buying low and selling high. Diversity is a good thing IMHO. It's when a MMO caters to one group at the expense of another where the issue comes in, and lost subs, etc. The large divide between all out PVP/POS bashing and the rest of Eve (Mining, missions, production, invention, etc) is what prevents more folks from playing, IMHO. Here's a RL example. If in the US all we had as a choice of occupation was the military to fight and take ground, who would be producing the basic and non-basic things you need to survive when you're not on the field ? Arguably, someone has to do that perceived menial task of mining, producing ships/ammo/equipment, and managing items on the market. If you didn't have that element of player, given how Eve's economy now runs, eventually the hard core PVPers wouldnt have any ships to replace the shinies they lost and eventually no one would fight since the cost of losing would be prohibitive. Just something to consider there. I too for a time in the early years of the game looked down on production and the like until I tried it and realized that the guy geeking around in his little high-sec POS producing ammo was just as valuable as me and my corporation going around blowing up space and claiming ground. My 2 cents, Localhost
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.04.17 17:15:00 - [90] - Quote I also play exclusively in High sec cause that makes low sec/null sec ppl cry Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Barakach R-ISK Shadow Operations. 48	Posted - 2012.04.17 18:40:00 - [91] - Quote Eve needs a wide variety of risk vs reward. This is why there is high/low/null. High sec should be a fairly safe area where to get your feet wet. A great example of this is NPC manufacturing. You have to wait in line, and it is much slower than a PoS, but you get to try manufacturing without a huge investment. Every part of Eve should have the ability to "try" with little investment but with a heavy set of restrictions. Otherwise It's like taking a 8 year old kid, and telling them to choose what they want to do and tell them they're stuck with it as no one wants to waste 6 months training and saving only to find out they don't like it.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1127	Posted - 2012.04.17 20:12:00 - [92] - Quote Ank Parkor wrote: EVE is a solo game with ennemies having sometimes great AI. Playing several accounts together helps.
Seleia O'Sinnor Drop of Honey 206	Posted - 2012.04.17 20:44:00 - [93] - Quote Ah one of these posts. Sure a fleet of 20 (enter mighty ship name) can protect a hulk in highsec. Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing.
Lola Humpsalot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2012.04.17 20:45:00 - [94] - Quote poastin' in a masternerdguy thread !
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2012.04.17 21:01:00 - [95] - Quote Barakach wrote: High sec should be a fairly safe area you went wrong about here Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Ank Parkor WildSpace Otters 19	Posted - 2012.04.17 21:05:00 - [96] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Ank Parkor wrote: EVE is a solo game with ennemies having sometimes great AI. Playing several accounts together helps. Several accounts on a MMO is like only imaginary friends on his birthday. You have all the avantages like all the cake but something seems a bit wrong. In EVE it is much more convenient to do everything by yourself, maybe except PVP. The game design doesn't reward enough team effort for PVE. And the most important all EVE players hate mankind and all that is good, pretty or honest. They want to shoot people, not talking to them. Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions.
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate 653	Posted - 2012.04.17 22:25:00 - [97] - Quote Ank Parkor wrote: Several accounts on a MMO is like only imaginary friends on his birthday. You have all the avantages like all the cake but something seems a bit wrong. Sort of a tangent ... This reminds me of a comment made by a dev many years ago at a Fanfest, Oveur I think it was. A question was asked about ship crews, and CCP's thinking at the time was to paraphrase, "We don't want players hanging out with only their pets, we want people interacting with one another." ... but CCP is more than happy to let you pal around with your alts? There's pretty much nothing CCP can do about alts, or would, it is there bottom line after all. But using alts just seems like a big cheat to me. Why not go buy PLEX and sit on a giant pile of ISK and prtend you alone, your in-game effort, produced it.
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 606	Posted - 2012.04.17 22:38:00 - [98] - Quote I don't hate mankind. I'm just sorta pissed off at the bunch for a lot of reasons which mainly center around selfishness, and its big brother, egotism. Mankind hasn't ever accomplished much except by group cooperation. Even the great individuals known as artists have a lot of support function behind them, or we'd never know who they are. There is no such thing as "casual" play. That's an inaccurate term that's cropped up, probably 'cause it's rather inoffensive. Take me for instance. I'm 56 years old. I was not only raised to compete, I was raised to be a rabid competitor. "Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing." I spent half my life engaged in all or nothing athletic competition normal people could rightfully call "insane." But, it's not limited to the basketball court, baseball, or football fields. This type-A, winner take all, sort of person (thank you) tends to not confine it. Chess, cards, board games of all kinds...win! win! win! Or, to your opponent, "Die! Die! Die!" And, yes, with video, or computer games...the world opens up...MMOs??? Smack real people IN a video game???? There IS A GOD!!! I have slam-dunked, home-runned, knock-his-dic^-in-the-dirted my way through life. Mudballs, water balloons, ray guns, missile boats... Saints of Battlefield 2 be praised ... for DECADES, and guess what. You reach a point where it's tiresome. It's repetitive. It's the same old same old. Whistle blows. Stomp the foes. Whistle blows. Stomp the foes. What appeals to me about EVE is there are contributions I can make which don't involve stomping someone. You may call it whatever you want. I can build. I can create. This is a big change for me. I've broken real bones, and had mine broken. I've drawn blood and been bled - actually. I have more porcelain in my mouth than teeth. At this point, an adrenalin rush makes me nauseus. Please. Allow me, or afford me, or whatever you want to call it, a bit of nice, relaxing - peaceful activity. Old warhorses should be able to graze around while the stallions snort and stamp and charge. You have the benefit of my wisdom in how to compete, organize, train...you have my humble efforts in helping you gear up and get into the fray. I'm not a carebear, unless you count caring if my side stomps yours. I'm just a worn out warrior looking for a place on the field where I can offer some help, stay close to the smoke and ruin, but not have to worry about paying my cardiologist any more than I have to. Feel free to do what you like. Just gimme a little space to do what I want. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
Ocih Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 149	Posted - 2012.04.17 22:45:00 - [99] - Quote Lfod Shi wrote: Funny, I don't recall complaining about flying solo or asking for special treatment. Me either. This whole thread is what we call a red herring. People like the OP are the first to cry nerf when a Titan blob stomps thier Maelstrom Blob and are the first to belly ache about the dumbing down of EVE but the only math they want to introduce is, my blob is bigger than your blob, my blob wins.
Paragon Renegade Wyvern Operations 344	Posted - 2012.04.17 22:48:00 - [100] - Quote Masternerdguy seems to be overcompensating for his "Small holdings" The pie is a tautology
Talon SilverHawk Patria o Muerte 37	Posted - 2012.04.17 22:59:00 - [101] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages? Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest. Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time. More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo. Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content. Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship. Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive. Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP. Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it. Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss. I am one the has been asking CCP if they will do anything for the solo/casual/time lacking player, but I cant remember asking for or see any of the above asked for ? More NPC stations in 0.0 would be a good thing and I believe pull more people out of high sec, but not to claim sovereignty that would a dumb ass idea like rest quoted above, which thinking about it is probably a troll post, and I bit . Tal
Surge Roth Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 43	Posted - 2012.04.17 23:17:00 - [102] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Thought this was a sand box, who are you to tell me how I should play? Part of having a sandbox includes those that would oppress you. This is EvE after all. Or, does all that stop where your feelings begin? Just getting tired of seeing the same crap told over and over again, even when it's wrong.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 424	Posted - 2012.04.18 00:24:00 - [103] - Quote Kattshiro wrote: I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc) It also makes breaking into enemy's space a bit cooler :) Since you can sneak in and try doing stuff there. If course you should just blow up their cynojammers and drop your supercapital fleet and two fleets of capital ships and pew pew everything befre jumping out and posting your pos.jpg for when they exit RF. Ocih wrote: Lfod Shi wrote: Funny, I don't recall complaining about flying solo or asking for special treatment. Me either. This whole thread is what we call a red herring. People like the OP are the first to cry nerf when a Titan blob stomps thier Maelstrom Blob and are the first to belly ache about the dumbing down of EVE but the only math they want to introduce is, my blob is bigger than your blob, my blob wins. Yeah, I know right... just the other day, these elite pvpers where whining because of our superrifters and uberdrake blobs.. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
Eian Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 22	Posted - 2012.04.18 00:37:00 - [104] - Quote When did "The Sandbox" turn into "The Greek Shower". There's room in this game for everyone and you should be glad it stays that way.
Eian Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 22	Posted - 2012.04.18 00:42:00 - [105] - Quote Surge Roth wrote: Tanya Powers wrote: Thought this was a sand box, who are you to tell me how I should play? Part of having a sandbox includes those that would oppress you. This is EvE after all. Or, does all that stop where your feelings begin? Just getting tired of seeing the same crap told over and over again, even when it's wrong. Your definition of "Sandbox" is very 1980's trailer park. That said, I understand what your trying to say, your just to stupid to know how to say it.
Lonox Hilmar is Lord 16	Posted - 2012.04.18 00:47:00 - [106] - Quote Herping yourDerp wrote: Doc Fury wrote: The Harsh Truth About "masternerdguy" You must be really lonely and need to post for attention. this Because of "likes".
Montevius Williams Eclipse Industrial Inc Order of the Void 280	Posted - 2012.04.18 00:54:00 - [107] - Quote Fredfredbug4 wrote: MMORPG Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game Trying to play solo in an MMORPG is like expecting to play a shooter game without getting shot at. Point is, if you play solo you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you don't want to play with others you should not be accommodated for. Multuplayer does not mean that you have to play with those people, it just means that you have some kind of interaction with them, whether direct (I blew your ship up) or indirect (you just bought a new ship from me on the market and you give that ship to a corpmate). If you are a marketeer in EVE, you dont need to speak to anyone to make your billions. Are you interacting with other players? Yes, but by and large, you are not targeting a specific players with your sales. Would I be missing a huge part of EVE by not interacting with other players? Yes, but it depends on that player. If I'm playing WoW, I dont need to team up with 5 other players to get to level 80. I can do quest every day untill I hit that number and not talk with one person during that process. Is it boring as hell? Maybe..but again, that depends on the player.
Pok Nibin Viziam Amarr Empire 121	Posted - 2012.04.18 01:09:00 - [108] - Quote Eian wrote: Surge Roth wrote: Tanya Powers wrote: Thought this was a sand box, who are you to tell me how I should play? Part of having a sandbox includes those that would oppress you. This is EvE after all. Or, does all that stop where your feelings begin? Just getting tired of seeing the same crap told over and over again, even when it's wrong. Your definition of "Sandbox" is very 1980's trailer park. That said, I understand what your trying to say, your just to stupid to know how to say it. People who call others "stupid" should know their own language. Your English is atrocious. Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to.
Alexa Coates The Scope Gallente Federation 92	Posted - 2012.04.18 01:31:00 - [109] - Quote So i'm a pretty solo, casual, 'carebear', and I don't remember asking for any of this. That said, op is a generalizing jerk who needs to have his computer rights taken away because it's past his bedtime and his game isn't going his way so he's cranky. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships!
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.04.18 01:36:00 - [110] - Quote Surge Roth wrote: Tanya Powers wrote: Thought this was a sand box, who are you to tell me how I should play? Part of having a sandbox includes those that would oppress you. This is EvE after all. Or, does all that stop where your feelings begin? Just getting tired of seeing the same crap told over and over again, even when it's wrong. heres some new crap Quote: The main characteristic of a sociopath is a disregard for the rights of others. Sociopaths are also unable to conform to what society defines as a normal personality. Antisocial tendencies are a big part of the sociopathGÇÖs personality. This pattern usually comes into evidence around the age of 15. If it is not treated, it can develop into adulthood. Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another. Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Nephilius Grey Legionaires 334	Posted - 2012.04.18 01:56:00 - [111] - Quote I got more harsh truth today from that BM after lunch than what this thread can deliver. The harsh truth is that there are still those who feel the need to dictate how others play, to suit themselves. They don't care about the balance of the game as a whole, but their own enjoyment of the game. However, they turn around and say that the group that offends them by playing casually/solo are the ones trying to dictate the way the game is played. A lot of your "truths" have to do with a PVPer dictating what a PVEer does with his time in game. That's the biggest truth in your statement, the rest is twisted comments gathered from across the boards, usually from newer players who haven't really grasped the game for what it is yet. Even I have done it when I first started playing. It happens. My truth, though, when it comes to Eve, it's this mentality that keeps me casual and solo. I just don't want to be around those who want to dictate how others spend their $15. By playing solo, I save myself a whole lot of grief and aggravation from those who just can't be happy with what they have. As far as I am concerned, the galaxy can burn around me and I won't even blink. I haven't found a reason to be concerned any further than my own happy little sphere of influence. To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us.
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 418	Posted - 2012.04.18 01:59:00 - [112] - Quote Roime wrote: On some forums, people are banned for badposting. Not this one thank god https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909 My stance on WiS (updated)
Ava Starfire Skadi's Call Defiant Legacy 232	Posted - 2012.04.18 02:22:00 - [113] - Quote Solo player/pvper checking in. Do I roam in gangs? Yep. When I want to. Am I in a corp/alliance? Yep. Look right there, to the left. I fly with them... when I want to. Do I do moneymaking stuff on my own? Yep. Why the hell wouldnt I? A pie sliced one way leaves me the biggest slice, after all? Do I pvp alone? Yep. When I want to, which is most of the time. Cool thing about EVE. I can do what I want. It seems you have a hard time with me doing what I want, OP. My advice? Suck less.
MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 294	Posted - 2012.04.18 02:45:00 - [114] - Quote THE HARSH THRUTH ABOUT PLAYING BY YOUR SELF IS THAT IT CAN BE SELF SERVING AT TIMES.... PLEX FOR PIZZA! TECH iii MINNING SHIPS!
Ettu Brute II Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 32	Posted - 2012.04.18 03:11:00 - [115] - Quote Never mind.
Boston Bradley The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance 3	Posted - 2012.04.18 03:20:00 - [116] - Quote Playing EVE by yourself is like playing football/basketball with a 1 man team. It's unfair and not fun UNLESS you're playing a team with 1 person too. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Stop being a loner.
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2012.04.18 04:55:00 - [117] - Quote Boston Bradley wrote: Playing EVE by yourself is like playing football/basketball with a 1 man team. It's unfair and not fun UNLESS you're playing a team with 1 person too. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Stop being a loner. opinion. Its MY opinion that its fun SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Stop telling ppl how to play Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Signal11th 457	Posted - 2012.04.18 07:14:00 - [118] - Quote Fredfredbug4 wrote: MMORPG Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game Trying to play solo in an MMORPG is like expecting to play a shooter game without getting shot at. Point is, if you play solo you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you don't want to play with others you should not be accommodated for. Pretty much this, although MMORPG doesn't actually mean that you have to play with others, it just means as in life large groups of people doing the same thing will accomplish it faster than people on their own. Anyway there are plenty of ways for a solo player to earn isk without logging on all the time, Missions LVL 4 or 5 plenty of isk for a reasonably SP'd alt quick too. Station Trading, this one is the easiest even I made a few bill doing this for about an hour a day, boring as hell though. Exploring. I am a "soloish" player as in I mean I have little time to log on during the week and when I do I'm usually in a fleet or doing alliance stuff so I have to find creative ways to make money to fund my EVE life, it's possible just most of the time mind-numbingly boring. The good thing about EVE is that at the start you want shiny shiny but then after a while you realise you're having more fun in a frigate. Shiny is nice but really unless you're sat in a SC/TITAN or 14 years old it's completely pointless. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster.
Karim alRashid Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 183	Posted - 2012.04.18 08:52:00 - [119] - Quote Tikktokk Tokkzikk wrote: Who decided that MMO means playing WITH players and not AGAINST players? I'd pay ISK for having the option of more "Likes" on this post.
Belshazzar Babylon Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2012.04.18 11:29:00 - [120] - Quote Silly me thinking that the sandbox meant I got to choose my own path. Whether that be joing an 8000+ alliance as a foot soldier in a Maelstrom, dying gloriously in a hero rifter, running in a small gang with friends, or even gasp solo mining. I know some people have a hard time understanding that the solo Hulk out there is actually PvP even when hulkageddon is not going on. He's competing with every other hulk out there. He even has to compete against the bots which means he actually faces more competition than most. Me I'm a total casual carebear. I give CCP my 15 bucks and run Angel Exstravaganza on a Saturday morning while my kids watch cartoons. I'm pretty happy with most of the game mechanics. I see just as many threads on here from Nullbears. Nerf AFK Cloakers who Meta Game, Nerf Incursion income from players who come together. Nerf the Cloak+MWD trick. Nerf Titans they destroyed my blob.
Caldari Acolyte Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 19	Posted - 2012.04.18 11:40:00 - [121] - Quote The Harsh Truth About Casual/Solo Players is that their gonna play the game when they want, how they want. and their not gonna give a rat's a$$ what you or anybody else thinks about it .
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 613	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:31:00 - [122] - Quote Caldari Acolyte wrote: The Harsh Truth About Casual/Solo Players is that their gonna play the game when they want, how they want. and their not gonna give a rat's a$$ what you or anybody else thinks about it . I woulda said that, but I remembered the guy's name isn't MasterMINDguy...and chaos ensued. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 736	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:34:00 - [123] - Quote Srsly wtf is your problem,OPdude? Sand in your mangina?
Ana Vyr Vyral Technologies 224	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:51:00 - [124] - Quote I play solo, and I wouldn't put any of that crap in the game. I just don't have the playtime to play in a group without pissing them off because of lack of participation.
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 544	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:54:00 - [125] - Quote Nephilius wrote: As far as I am concerned, the galaxy can burn around me and I won't even blink. I haven't found a reason to be concerned any further than my own happy little sphere of influence. Yup. When you mind your own business and just play the game, even things like H'geddon just fade into the background. NONE of the nonsense that gets yapped about ever really seems to make any difference in the long run anyway. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 423	Posted - 2012.04.18 14:59:00 - [126] - Quote ways on how casual/solo players deal with people in a MMORPG: 1 - ** You, I'm doing my **. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 544	Posted - 2012.04.18 15:02:00 - [127] - Quote Grimpak wrote: ways on how casual/solo players deal with people in a MMORPG: 1 - ** You, I'm doing my **. All the editing in the world won't help your Sig File. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing.
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 544	Posted - 2012.04.18 15:04:00 - [128] - Quote Boston Bradley wrote: Playing EVE by yourself is like playing football/basketball with a 1 man team. It's unfair and not fun. There is this thing. It's called a Subjective Opinion. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 423	Posted - 2012.04.18 15:06:00 - [129] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Grimpak wrote: ways on how casual/solo players deal with people in a MMORPG: 1 - ** You, I'm doing my **. All the editing in the world won't help your Sig File. I blame CCP. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 544	Posted - 2012.04.18 15:09:00 - [130] - Quote Grimpak wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: All the editing in the world won't help your Sig File. I blame CCP. For realzz. But you KNOW if they allow images again, the flood of ponies....omg...... There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 423	Posted - 2012.04.18 15:09:00 - [131] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Grimpak wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: All the editing in the world won't help your Sig File. I blame CCP. For realzz. But you KNOW if they allow images again, the flood of ponies....omg...... and that would be a bad thing... how? [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 544	Posted - 2012.04.18 15:18:00 - [132] - Quote Grimpak wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: But you KNOW if they allow images again, the flood of ponies....omg...... and that would be a bad thing... how? There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing.
Dragon Outlaw Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 68	Posted - 2012.04.18 15:37:00 - [133] - Quote Threads like these make me want to have an un-like button available. But maybe, some people would just want to reach new lows.
Twulf The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact 40	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:23:00 - [134] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages? Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest. Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time. More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo. Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content. Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship. Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive. Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP. Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it. Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss. Care to show me where Solo or Causal play is not allowed in EvE or any other MMORPG. You do understand that MMO does not mean not solo play correct? I agree they should not ask for thing to be made easier for solo players but you to suggest that solo play or causal play is not a valid form of gaming, then your just an idiot. WOW is more popular then EVE and makes more money then EVE could ever dream of and that is because of how easy Solo play is. So you are wrong from a business stand point. CCP is a business, if making it more solo and causal friendly is going to make them more money, then they are going to do it because CCP is a business and business is about making money.
Dheeradj Nurgle Misfit Syndicate Warden. 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 16:59:00 - [135] - Quote As a (mostly) solo player, I actually agree with the OP.... Iy's a sandbox for Eden's sake.
Quade Warren Urban Mining Corp Rising Phoenix Alliance 20	Posted - 2012.04.18 17:18:00 - [136] - Quote Whatever, man. If you're interested in finding solutions to your proposed problems, start pointing out solutions. I sincerely doubt CCP is going to cater exclusively to the solo carebear. They're pretty smart people. Think of it this way... if this game has so much information that it is difficult to explain its complexity, how much brain power do you think it'd take to manage that information? Also consider that forum posts are voluntary responses, which means you cannot rely on them as an example of the population of Eve. They're just a vocal subset. Cull the weak, feed the strong and watch them eat each other. Seems like Eve in all aspects. I've never felt bitter about being at a disadvantage because I'm outnumbered. Rules of nature, man. Except when I lost my fighters to a bug that CCP has still not responded to my petition about. Bastages.
Tau Prime Black Barrel 7	Posted - 2012.04.18 19:49:00 - [137] - Quote masternerdguy wrote: You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages? Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest. Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time. More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo. Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content. Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship. Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive. Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP. Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it. Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be. Discuss. This is the worst assumption I've read on the forums so far. I've played in big alliances for several years off and on. I like my casual solo game better. I don't have to listen to anyone's crap or dodge epeens. Please inform us as to how you arrived at the conclusion that all 'x' players do 'x' and act like 'x'. I've never even thought about any of these complaints that you are accusing a rather large segment of the player base of. You know that all Star Bellied Sneetches are way better than just Sneetches because regular Sneetches don't like stars. . . Thread is worthless offensive dribble that serves no purpose other than to complain.
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 21:04:00 - [138] - Quote Mining ships are too weak, give every mining barge some hp in hull. Today T1 fitted destroyer can destroy them (tech1), thats too harsh. Make miner noobs protected just a little, who the hell wants to be reapetedly ganked by 1 destroyer, loosing milions of isc in strip miners and rigs just for some noob in destroyer, who is trigger happy.
Nephilius Grey Legionaires 338	Posted - 2012.04.18 22:06:00 - [139] - Quote Boston Bradley wrote: Stop being a loner. 1. Give me a GOOD reason to. 2. Make me. To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us.
Brid Mindelan Mindelan Heavy Industry 0	Posted - 2012.04.18 23:30:00 - [140] - Quote i play casually, and for the most part, i play solo. on occassion i'll go out with some friends and shoot at other people, and either win or lose. i know quite a few people in the game, and it would be relatively easy for me to get into one of the major nullsec powerblocs and experience 'that' type of gameplay again I used to have lots of time to play the game, and i took a perverse pleasure in blowing people up, seeing how much isk damage i could do in a 24 hour period, got my kill/loss ratio to a reasonably good level. then, as innevitably happens, i got a job, got married, and found i no longer had the time to play 'that stupid spaceship game' (as my missus delicately puts it) for 6-8 hours a day So, i cancelled the sub on my PvP toon, took my isk, and started manufacturing. It was an aspect of the game i had not really delved into, and i was of the opinion only socially incompetent risk averse morons actually did it. However, 12 months, 1 child, and 50 billion isk later, i can safely say, in my opinion, manufacturing, playing the markets and amassing what by any definition is a small fortune, carebears aren't morons. and casual carebears even less so sure, mining is boring, missions get tiresome after 15 minutes, incursions are no fun either. what amuses me is that you (random nullsec entity) will sell your moon goo to me for what you think is a competitive price, and i will sell it back to you after turning it into something useful, and pocket a good chunk of isk. you will then get it blown up, and buy another from me, fit it with my guns, and fire my ammunition, every time you die, you make me richer sure, it would be nice if mining ships (hulks) were a bit tougher, industrials weren't made out of paper, and those nasty suicide gankers would just leave me alone, but while they may think ganking a freighter with 1 bill plus in the hold is a big deal, for me it would be a minor inconvenience, a little blip affecting my bottom line. I'm not alone when it comes down to it. Suicide ganking, while inconvenient (and currenty there being quite literally no defence against it) is something that happens to only a small minority of players, and has very little impact on the transport of goods I brave losec in a jump freighter when there is a firesale after alliance XY or Z has cascade failed, and buy up ships and modules on the cheap (suckers) i will routinely sell ships in 'hotzones' in losec, or brave NPC nullsec to make a quick buck, but the majority of my time is spent, quite literally, docked up doing not much. setting invention or copy jobs, filling manufacturing slots and PI takes at most 10-15 minutes a day, i run twice weekly runs to jita to buy/sell stuff. once or twice a month i will set buy orders for minerals to save me having to mine them myself When all is said and done, i can personally supply large corps or small alliances with all the materials they need to wage war, lay claim to moons, set up POCO's, and i can do it, solo. yes, i'm a war proffiteer, yes i probably have more isk than most of you, and yes, absolutely, i'm a casual solo carebear
Jonah Gravenstein 156	Posted - 2012.04.18 23:45:00 - [141] - Quote As the previous poster says, war is good for business, and business is good Other peoples wars covers my PLEX every month, hauling between trade hubs, manufacturing ammo and modules, mining raw materials, these are things that casual "carebears" do, because others in the game see it as below them. Feel free to blow up stuff, I will quite happily resupply you with ships and modules, you keep me in business, and in Eve, by buying up my stuff to destroy so I can sell you some more, your random destruction puts isk in my wallet and pays for my PLEX. Beware of eradicating the casual player from the game, we are seen as prey which is fair enough such is the nature of the beast, but the moment you make your prey extinct, what do you have left? Some of us are prey, some of us are hunters, if the hunters eradicate the prey what do they have left? Adapt/die/HTFU applies to both PVE and PVP.
DonHel Aliastra Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2012.04.19 01:20:00 - [142] - Quote I'm not sure about casual, but I fly solo alot. Occasionally I join a pvp corp or alliance to get a good pvp grind. I would never think of suggesting things that are listed in OP. There is tons of solo content out there that can net you the big ol bucks... pvp isnt that great solo unless u like ganking hopeless miners/haulers/frigs or whatever with the occassional real battle, but there can actually be more rewarding isk to the solo player as theres nothing to split and banter over " but i got the killmail" or some crap. This is a sandbox fit for all, casual , hardcore, insane, or no lifers.. all got the same ends.. just different ways of getting there... so those who do wish to have what OP says solo players want.. htfu and learn the game or gtfo
Pok Nibin Viziam Amarr Empire 121	Posted - 2012.04.19 02:55:00 - [143] - Quote Is the OP the new king of the cowpie? Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to.
Whambot Caldari Provisions Caldari State 5	Posted - 2012.04.19 22:43:00 - [144] - Quote Pok Nibin wrote: Is the OP the new king of the cowpie? Hes definitely the king of something in his own mind. And he lives up to his character name, but the real question is does he play EVE or just forum post all day? Hmm....

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 :: [one page]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.