EVE Search - Tech 3 going to be skill based

Check My IP Information

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Tech 3 going to be skill based

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Guttripper State War Academy	Posted - 2009.01.13 17:16:00 - [31] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: DrAtomic The ships will be cruiser sized Each of the modules, you mean ? Has there been any information concerning Tech 3 modules? I thought it was just the cruiser ships to start?
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.13 17:25:00 - [32] Another person who suffers from the "won't fly the ship until I am maxed out in it" syndrome. ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Amy Wang	Posted - 2009.01.13 17:35:00 - [33] Edited by: Amy Wang on 13/01/2009 17:37:45 Originally by: Merdaneth Another person who suffers from the "won't fly the ship until I am maxed out in it" syndrome. that attitude actually makes sense provided you have another ship that is already maxed out and thus more effective then the half baked not maxed out one but to each their own, tbh I prefer people to fly expensive ships with minimal skills for it, we need more of those also agree the t3 will be definately heavily pre nerfed and not worth it in 12490 of the 12500 combinations for at least 1 year I mean look at the Black Ops, came pre nerfed and still didn't get balanced, t3 will be no different for that reason I dont care about t3 skill requirements, if its useful skills as such then sure why not, if they are only for t3 I wont even bother for the next year or so
Soi Mala	Posted - 2009.01.13 17:50:00 - [34] Originally by: DrAtomic We'll get 5 racial ship components. No-one spot anything wrong with that?
Violent Potato	Posted - 2009.01.13 18:20:00 - [35] Wonder how much T3'll cost as well.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.01.13 18:34:00 - [36] Originally by: Soi Mala Originally by: DrAtomic We'll get 5 racial ship components. No-one spot anything wrong with that? I would have expected 100 racial components. 5 components for each of the 5 slots for each of the 4 races… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Marlenus Caldari Ironfleet Towing And Salvage Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.01.13 19:23:00 - [37] They've made it fairly clear that T3 ships aren't going to to be ZOMG better than T2 ships, so I'll be surprised if the skill requirements are substantial. They may not even be built on top of the T2 skills. There's been a strong trend in recent years for new stuff not to have level 5 prerequisites. I'll be stunned if you need more than one L5 skill to get into T3, and not at all surprised if you turn out not to need any.
Ko Shimin Minmatar Independent Terran Empire Terran Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.13 19:32:00 - [38] My main concern is how will the t3 ship be made.. You find the parts exploring by mad for 6 months in order to make a decent ship. When is blown up you lose it and start over looking for parts for the next 6 months? Or, you assemble the parts into a BPO or BPC that allow you to rebuild it?
Ocih Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.13 19:34:00 - [39] Originally by: Kendon Rid** Originally by:** Furb Killer No one is forcing you to skill everything to lvl 5... Unless it is a prereq, i barely ever go further than lvl 4 for any skill. and thats why your in paxton. When I have 2 Avatars on a Paxton Gate, I truly hope you are there to witness it Kendon.
Ocih Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.13 19:40:00 - [40] Originally by: Marlenus They've made it fairly clear that T3 ships aren't going to to be ZOMG better than T2 ships, so I'll be surprised if the skill requirements are substantial. They may not even be built on top of the T2 skills. There's been a strong trend in recent years for new stuff not to have level 5 prerequisites. I'll be stunned if you need more than one L5 skill to get into T3, and not at all surprised if you turn out not to need any. My guess will be 2 L5 prerequisites and they will be core skills and not above 2X. What this new system does is bait people in to multiple racial training. Something T2 took away. My thinking with this T3 is they started introducing end T2 prenerfed so it's a pretty good conclusion this will all come prenerfed.

blomer	Posted - 2009.01.13 20:01:00 - [41] Originally by: Ko Shimin My main concern is how will the t3 ship be made.. You find the parts exploring by mad for 6 months in order to make a decent ship. When is blown up you lose it and start over looking for parts for the next 6 months? Or, you assemble the parts into a BPO or BPC that allow you to rebuild it? Seems to me the only way it would make sense would be for explorers to find "artifacts" that will be used in the invention of BPC's for the ship components. All the components would be manufactured like normal. Otherwise, why would there be racial flavors of technology in "unexplored" space. This way each race research's the "artifacts" and puts their own spin on the enhancements.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2009.01.13 21:07:00 - [42] hidden learning skills troll? - putting the gist back into logistics
ry ry	Posted - 2009.01.13 21:14:00 - [43] Originally by: Marlenus I'll be stunned if you need more than one L5 skill to get into T3, and not at all surprised if you turn out not to need any. that's my thoughts. but Charisma, i'm tellin' ya.
Kalintos Tyl Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.13 21:23:00 - [44] char/mem would be best - least used stats in skills and achuras sceams would be so sweet 60D GTC - shattared link
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council.	Posted - 2009.01.13 21:29:00 - [45] Originally by: DrAtomic Reading the E-ON 14 we'll get 5 racial ship components with a skill attached to it the better the skill the better your ship component functions. The ships will be cruiser sized so it's safe to assume that in order to learn the racial component skills you'll need to meet t2 cruiser requirements. T2 cruisers are specialized ships that require a second skill next to cruiser 5. I'm going to assume that the pre-req for the hull components will be cruiser V. Cruiser V is approx. 30 days training. If the 5 racial hull skills are going to be rank 1 then it will be 35 days of training on top of that. If the 5 racial hull skills are going to be rank 2 then it will be 70 days of training on top of that. If the 5 racial hull skills are going to be rank 5 then it will be 140 days of training on top of that. etc. etc. Given that HAC and logistics are rank 6 skills and battleship rank 8 skills, logic would assume that the racial hull skills are going to be rank 7 skills (approx. 195 days to lvl 5 them). Orrrr 30 + 195 / 30 = 7.5 months of training just to be maxed at using the hulls. An average eve player stays with eve for 7 months. Also it's safe to assume the hulls will be pre-nerfed to hell and only be usefull once you've lvl 5-ed the usage skills. Yes, it's all assumptions based on the E-ON info provided but jeah well... wait a second, what happened to those like 25,700 possible combinations or whatever we heard about a while back? i thought we had from frigate up to battleship sized hulls Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Lui Kai Logistics Incorporated	Posted - 2009.01.13 22:06:00 - [46] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 wait a second, what happened to those like 25,700 possible combinations or whatever we heard about a while back? i thought we had from frigate up to battleship sized hulls Cruiser sized hulls. The ships are built from 5 different types of components, how many variants on components for each slot hasn't been directly released (to my knowledge), though with a bit of math you could probably figure it out. Thus the different permutations. The 25,700 number is more a marketing tool than anything, as it's highly doubtful there will be 25,700 meaningful variations. Still, if there's just two meaningful variations per slot - it's more ships than have ever been released in one expansion before.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.01.13 22:11:00 - [47] Originally by: Lui Kai Cruiser sized hulls. The ships are built from 5 different types of components, how many variants on components for each slot hasn't been directly released (to my knowledge), though with a bit of math you could probably figure it out. The 5 types per component slot number comes from the initial presentation at FanFest. That's also where the 4×5^5 (12,500) permutations comes from.
UMEE	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:07:00 - [48] we dont need more ships, dont need t3. other aspects of the game need improvements badly (FW, PVE environments). i dont care for T3
Ron Bacardi SniggWaffe	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:34:00 - [49] Edited by: Ron Bacardi on 13/01/2009 23:35:02 Originally by: DrAtomic ...assumptions... Until a dev comes out and says "Here are the skill requirements", assumptions are meaningless. Frankly, who cares. The only thing we can safely assume, is that there will be whine threads on the: -skill requirements -cost -nerfed/overpoweredness Constants in life: death, taxes, whine threads.
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:36:00 - [50] Originally by: DrAtomic Yes, it's all assumptions Yeah, it's all assumptions. Wait and see. Fetchez la vache !

Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:37:00 - [51] Originally by: Ron Bacardi Edited by: Ron Bacardi on 13/01/2009 23:35:02 Originally by: DrAtomic ...assumptions... Until a dev comes out and says "Here are the skill requirements", assumptions are meaningless. Frankly, who cares. The only thing we can safely assume, is that there will be whine threads on the: -skill requirements -cost -nerfed/overpoweredness Constants in life: death, taxes, whine threads. are you my alt ? Fetchez la vache !
Ron Bacardi SniggWaffe	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:40:00 - [52] Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Originally by: Ron Bacardi Edited by: Ron Bacardi on 13/01/2009 23:35:02 Originally by: DrAtomic ...assumptions... Until a dev comes out and says "Here are the skill requirements", assumptions are meaningless. Frankly, who cares. The only thing we can safely assume, is that there will be whine threads on the: -skill requirements -cost -nerfed/overpoweredness Constants in life: death, taxes, whine threads. are you my alt ? Yes, wanna make babies? /activate thread derailment
UMEE	Posted - 2009.01.14 01:52:00 - [53] Originally by: Ron Bacardi Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Originally by: Ron Bacardi Edited by: Ron Bacardi on 13/01/2009 23:35:02 Originally by: DrAtomic ...assumptions... Until a dev comes out and says "Here are the skill requirements", assumptions are meaningless. Frankly, who cares. The only thing we can safely assume, is that there will be whine threads on the: -skill requirements -cost -nerfed/overpoweredness Constants in life: death, taxes, whine threads. are you my alt ? Yes, wanna make babies? /activate thread derailment well i have to voice that im getting really tired of this question and its implications. i of course have nothing against homosexuality, but men just need to stop asking other men to conceive children with them. it's been tried, it's not possible. im also tired of posts that go all smartass-like: "observe my coolness, im all emo, this thread is pointless, like life, so stop having discussions and fantasies, everything sounds like whining to me, i embrace nihilism for attention" and so on. damn forum culture and recycled responses, it's all so very frustrating.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.01.14 02:14:00 - [54] Originally by: ry ry ...although i wouldn't be at all surprised if the t3 skills' primary attrib was Charisma. I can just imagine the pod pilots throughout the galaxy having to sweet-talk their ship to do anything: "Come on, baby. You should fire your weapons." "NO! I'm NOT in the mood right now."
Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2009.01.14 02:19:00 - [55] Edited by: Julius Rigel on 14/01/2009 02:19:36 I'm all good with my T1 frig kthxbai. Exaggerated typo O.o
Jmanis Catharg Caldari Dusk Blade	Posted - 2009.01.14 02:31:00 - [56] Y'know, I'm glad they haven't put in extensive skill lists for stuff in the past, otherwise Titans would take months to fully train for... ohwait!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.01.14 02:41:00 - [57] eve online is going to be skill based will be interesting to see what they do with it. I really speced up for my bs a while back, and now am going back and doing cruiser sized stuff, for probably every race. and then into all racial bs. will see how t3 shapes up and affects that plan
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.01.14 03:13:00 - [58] Originally by: Guttripper Originally by: Akita T Originally by: DrAtomic The ships will be cruiser sized Each of the modules, you mean ? Has there been any information concerning Tech 3 modules? I thought it was just the cruiser ships to start? T3 ships are modular, composed of up to 5 types of modules. Think of them as LEGO bricks.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2009.01.14 03:19:00 - [59] I'd better see the ductape holding together my stabberrifterrupturehurricanecyclonetyphoon
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council.	Posted - 2009.01.14 03:30:00 - [60] Originally by: Lui Kai Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 wait a second, what happened to those like 25,700 possible combinations or whatever we heard about a while back? i thought we had from frigate up to battleship sized hulls Cruiser sized hulls. The ships are built from 5 different types of components, how many variants on components for each slot hasn't been directly released (to my knowledge), though with a bit of math you could probably figure it out. Thus the different permutations. The 25,700 number is more a marketing tool than anything, as it's highly doubtful there will be 25,700 meaningful variations. Still, if there's just two meaningful variations per slot - it's more ships than have ever been released in one expansion before. we have to many cruiser sized variations imo cruisers hacs recon force recon heavy interdictor t3 most other ship sized hulls have one or two variations that are meaningful for pvp, all of the above are used extremely frequently like frigs inty's assault ships stealth bombers battlecruisers command ships battleship SOME races marauders (like ive heard that the golem is ok, aweseom tank w/ good damage output, but the kronos on the other hand, not so much destroyer (only good for salvaging, otherwise just underpowered cruisers . . . .) interdictor (i dont see to many of these myself in pvp) carriers motherships (again, i havent flown them, but i keep hearing that carriers > motherships, lol, the analogy was "the difference between a survival rate of a carrier and mothership is about 10 seconds) dreads (woohoo, POS bashing) Titans (goes from giant smartbomb ---> giant damage sponge in 5 seconds) need more ship size hulls that can be used in pvp, tbh, lol, i like flying bigger ships (battlecruisers mostly) my two cents



Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.