Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier

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Originally by: low26

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Internet Psychobabble thread # 123,683,973

"You grief in a game so you do it in real life" Yup if you grief in-game at home you must kill small furry animals, drown kittens in front of children, and abuse the crippled and elderly. Give me a break

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Read the thread.

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Originally by: Alowishus

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What victims of "grief" don't realize is that they are STUPID and stupid people deserve what's coming to them. In Eve, in real life.

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Originally by: Mithos Victus

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Edited by: Mithos Victus on 13/01/2009 16:27:19


What I want to know, from all the folks who seem to think that the extreme viewpoint is right in and of itself, is the following:

Do you deny that any violence in real life is associated with games?


So, the kid who shot his parents because they took Halo 3 away?

So, the kid who ran away and died from exposure because his parents took his console away?

So, the healthy adults dying from exhaustion from playing a game for days?

So, the soccer franchises banned for years because people are trampled or beaten to death at events?

So, the people who are figuratively buried in corn fields every day because they had a gambling habit associated with games?



These are just games too, right? Nothing can ever happen bad on the internets, right? This is a fairy tale land of unicorns and sugar plum fairies, right? There are not murderers, offenders, violent offenders, and otherwise habitually promulgated criminals anywhere on the internet or in real life?

Are you trying to tell me, that there is not one single person on the internet who has committed or continues to commit serious crimes and has gone thus far unpunished? Not in your EVE?

Tell me, please tell me about your fantasy world where everything is perfect, and no one is on here in EVE blowing people up because they are violent offenders in real life. Tell me.

Yes, it is just internet spaceships and by all rights nothing should ever matter here. It is just an entertainment venue like any other. But it is time for a serious wake up call, there are real people behind those monitors, and not all of them are BFF material, Paris.

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Originally by: Mithos Victus

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Originally by: low26

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I am Low 26 and I'm a griefer,

A bad person. mean evil and rotten, emotionally abused and psychologically strained by the Internet forces that be. So I think I will kilz you all by boiling you alive in quafe just to hear your screams!(in-game of course)then hang your corpses from the back of my jaguar would that be griefing you? Is that going to change aspects of your real life if so please seek professional help (for real not in-game)

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No, me personally no.

Someone else? *shrug*

This kind of stuff is entering the court systems more and more. You do realize that people can sue others over emotional grief even from an internet game, right?

You do also realize that people can serve time, for inciting real life violence, or somehow engaging in criminal activities, in an online environment, and that just because you do not intend the violence does not mean it will not occur.


Say you pod someone in NBSI a half a dozen times, make fun of their mother in local when they smack you first, and you go about your business. Then you get a notice the next day that person was emotionally unstable and went and committed suicide. You telling me it's just internet spaceships? Sure, you're not technically responsible if you did not have prior knowledge of them, they were unstable. But if the family brings you to trial you would have to prove in a court of law that you had no idea that there were of an emotionally unstable nature and that you did not intend for them to hurt themselves.

How are people missing this? Everyone keeps talking about the doer not the receiver.

Nothing becomes an issue until you run across someone who makes it an issue. But because those people exist, you can never simply assume that everything you do here is 100% harmless, even if it should be.

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Originally by: Mithos Victus

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Originally by: low26

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While true it is appearing in courts doesn't mean it's right or not stupid. hence my post about stupid people. If you are stupid enough to kill yourself over something someone said to you in a game well i say tough. As a society we need to quit condoning and excusing this non-sense

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Yes. But stupid is not a crime. And people have inalienable rights, no?

At least in the states, you know, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.

This is a matter of ethics and morality. People mix it up. It is unethical that people should get away with harassing another person to the point that the person engages in violent or criminal activity under duress. It can also be argued, that it is immoral to punish someone for exercising their right to free speech, as long as that speech could not be considered hate speech, derogatory, inflammatory, or etc. you know the common jargon. But just because something is immoral, does not make it unethical.

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Originally by: Eschiava Q

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Originally by: low26

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Hi Q!
Yea I liked YOHO allot it's just that the U.S.tz kind of fell apart. PRONS is a great corp though good bunch of guy's

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Ahh, that's a shame! I take it the others in the U.S. crowd are finding new homes as well?

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