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W0lverine
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Posted - 2004.07.26 19:54:00 -
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what ship is better and why? help plz:)
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2004.07.26 19:54:00 -
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what ship is better and why? help plz:)
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2004.07.26 19:55:00 -
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crow - hands down
faster, more offence
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2004.07.26 19:55:00 -
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crow - hands down
faster, more offence
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2004.07.26 20:34:00 -
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any more sugestions?
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2004.07.26 20:34:00 -
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any more sugestions?
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Coldstone
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Posted - 2004.07.26 20:43:00 -
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i agree with Gunstar...Crow is a better ship, in my opinion.
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Coldstone
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Posted - 2004.07.26 20:43:00 -
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i agree with Gunstar...Crow is a better ship, in my opinion.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.26 20:46:00 -
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here's a thread where i asked the same question...
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=95184
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.26 20:46:00 -
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here's a thread where i asked the same question...
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=95184
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Kleric
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Posted - 2004.07.26 21:06:00 -
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crow, but raptor is cheaper
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Kleric
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Posted - 2004.07.26 21:06:00 -
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crow, but raptor is cheaper
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2004.07.26 21:06:00 -
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thx
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2004.07.26 21:06:00 -
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thx
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2004.07.26 21:08:00 -
[15]
 Originally by: Kleric
crow, but raptor is cheaper
whats a crows and raptors prise?
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2004.07.26 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kleric
crow, but raptor is cheaper
whats a crows and raptors prise?
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.26 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: W0lverine
Originally by: Kleric
crow, but raptor is cheaper
whats a crows and raptors prise?
go look in market. Last i remember, crow is 11mil at cheapest...but i can't say for raptor.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.26 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: W0lverine
Originally by: Kleric
crow, but raptor is cheaper
whats a crows and raptors prise?
go look in market. Last i remember, crow is 11mil at cheapest...but i can't say for raptor.
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KingsGambit
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Posted - 2004.07.26 22:19:00 -
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From the general attributes and fittings, the Crow seems to have an edge over the Raptor in most things, including the two most important factors...speed and offensive potential. A Crow fitted with 3x Rocket Launchers and good Missile Launcher & Rockets skills can do over 50 dmg/sec at close range, give or take, not including what you fit in the remaining hi slot.
The mid/low slots are same on both, so compare the main attributes (Cap, Shield, Speed, Armour), decide what you want from the ship and then decide. I personally am very much looking forward to flying the Crow in a week's time...and [shameless plug] feel free to check link in my sig below for a BYOC deal if you want one for a great deal less than 11mill! 
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KingsGambit
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Posted - 2004.07.26 22:19:00 -
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From the general attributes and fittings, the Crow seems to have an edge over the Raptor in most things, including the two most important factors...speed and offensive potential. A Crow fitted with 3x Rocket Launchers and good Missile Launcher & Rockets skills can do over 50 dmg/sec at close range, give or take, not including what you fit in the remaining hi slot.
The mid/low slots are same on both, so compare the main attributes (Cap, Shield, Speed, Armour), decide what you want from the ship and then decide. I personally am very much looking forward to flying the Crow in a week's time...and [shameless plug] feel free to check link in my sig below for a BYOC deal if you want one for a great deal less than 11mill!
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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.07.26 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: OFFT on 26/07/2004 22:28:26
Crow IMHO.
There isnt a lev3 mission u cant do I a Crow. Thats a good indicator I think. yes I know PVP is different but hey...
Crows can be got cheaper than 11M.
Get light missiles traind to max. I get 125.4 per light after shields down. Most cruisers take no more than 2mins even if shield and armor repairing.
Its a blast.
See this screenie for what you can do ....
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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.07.26 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: OFFT on 26/07/2004 22:28:26
Crow IMHO.
There isnt a lev3 mission u cant do I a Crow. Thats a good indicator I think. yes I know PVP is different but hey...
Crows can be got cheaper than 11M.
Get light missiles traind to max. I get 125.4 per light after shields down. Most cruisers take no more than 2mins even if shield and armor repairing.
Its a blast.
See this screenie for what you can do ....
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ |
Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.26 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Selim on 26/07/2004 22:32:39
Raptor needs a third turret slot, and 5 more powergrid. Right now its only advantage is that it cant be jammed by just one caldari jammer, and thats a ****e advantage that is only occasionally of benefit. And gawd, give it some more speed.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.26 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Selim on 26/07/2004 22:32:39
Raptor needs a third turret slot, and 5 more powergrid. Right now its only advantage is that it cant be jammed by just one caldari jammer, and thats a ****e advantage that is only occasionally of benefit. And gawd, give it some more speed.
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Grut
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Posted - 2004.07.27 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
Edited by: Selim on 26/07/2004 22:32:39
Raptor needs a third turret slot, and 5 more powergrid. Right now its only advantage is that it cant be jammed by just one caldari jammer, and thats a ****e advantage that is only occasionally of benefit. And gawd, give it some more speed.
Yeah id give it atleast another highslot and maybe another turret slot aswell. Currently a raptor is outclassed at everything, you can rig it with blasters..... a taranis is far better, you can rig it with missiles..... a crow is far better or you can rig it for long range..... a crusader is far better.
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Grut
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Posted - 2004.07.27 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
Edited by: Selim on 26/07/2004 22:32:39
Raptor needs a third turret slot, and 5 more powergrid. Right now its only advantage is that it cant be jammed by just one caldari jammer, and thats a ****e advantage that is only occasionally of benefit. And gawd, give it some more speed.
Yeah id give it atleast another highslot and maybe another turret slot aswell. Currently a raptor is outclassed at everything, you can rig it with blasters..... a taranis is far better, you can rig it with missiles..... a crow is far better or you can rig it for long range..... a crusader is far better.
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2004.07.27 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Grut
Originally by: Selim
Edited by: Selim on 26/07/2004 22:32:39
Raptor needs a third turret slot, and 5 more powergrid. Right now its only advantage is that it cant be jammed by just one caldari jammer, and thats a ****e advantage that is only occasionally of benefit. And gawd, give it some more speed.
Yeah id give it atleast another highslot and maybe another turret slot aswell. Currently a raptor is outclassed at everything, you can rig it with blasters..... a taranis is far better, you can rig it with missiles..... a crow is far better or you can rig it for long range..... a crusader is far better.
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well there are "worst ships",and there are "besT" ships, raptor must be in 1st category...nothing wrong with that....its like merlin is better then condor...
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W0lverine
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Posted - 2004.07.27 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Grut
Originally by: Selim
Edited by: Selim on 26/07/2004 22:32:39
Raptor needs a third turret slot, and 5 more powergrid. Right now its only advantage is that it cant be jammed by just one caldari jammer, and thats a ****e advantage that is only occasionally of benefit. And gawd, give it some more speed.
Yeah id give it atleast another highslot and maybe another turret slot aswell. Currently a raptor is outclassed at everything, you can rig it with blasters..... a taranis is far better, you can rig it with missiles..... a crow is far better or you can rig it for long range..... a crusader is far better.
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well there are "worst ships",and there are "besT" ships, raptor must be in 1st category...nothing wrong with that....its like merlin is better then condor...
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.07.27 01:41:00 -
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crow
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.07.27 01:41:00 -
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crow
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.07.27 01:51:00 -
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I've been messing with Merlin and Kestrel setups, and the Kestrel is far superior, so I'm betting the Crow is the same, since it's the same "type" of setup as the Kestrel.
I wouldn't use Light Missiles as there was a post somewhere regarding the damage comparisons between light missiles and rockets, and rockets have a greater Damage potential over time, mostly because of the INSANE refire rate you can get on the Rocket Launcher. And since I'm assuming you'll be right in close with them, the 25km range of the Light Missile isn't a factor.
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.07.27 01:51:00 -
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I've been messing with Merlin and Kestrel setups, and the Kestrel is far superior, so I'm betting the Crow is the same, since it's the same "type" of setup as the Kestrel.
I wouldn't use Light Missiles as there was a post somewhere regarding the damage comparisons between light missiles and rockets, and rockets have a greater Damage potential over time, mostly because of the INSANE refire rate you can get on the Rocket Launcher. And since I'm assuming you'll be right in close with them, the 25km range of the Light Missile isn't a factor.
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.07.27 04:45:00 -
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Merlin is better than condor is nt an apoplicable comparison. Raptor and Crow are equal ship classes. Both are the lvl 1 interceptors for Caldari. Therefore, they should both be "relatively" equal, ideally each suits different purposes best. But at the current moment it seems the Raptor is too outclassed. Turrets are a more grid-intensive weapon than missile launchers and yet the raptor has less grid.
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.07.27 04:45:00 -
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Merlin is better than condor is nt an apoplicable comparison. Raptor and Crow are equal ship classes. Both are the lvl 1 interceptors for Caldari. Therefore, they should both be "relatively" equal, ideally each suits different purposes best. But at the current moment it seems the Raptor is too outclassed. Turrets are a more grid-intensive weapon than missile launchers and yet the raptor has less grid.
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.27 08:58:00 -
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And the rest :P has 1 less high slot... less speed :/ theres lots of other things which make the Raptor inferior to the crow :( the only good thing about the raptor is that its at a reasonable price unlike the crow which is ridiculously priced.
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FuPhal
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Posted - 2004.07.27 08:58:00 -
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And the rest :P has 1 less high slot... less speed :/ theres lots of other things which make the Raptor inferior to the crow :( the only good thing about the raptor is that its at a reasonable price unlike the crow which is ridiculously priced.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.07.27 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Grut
Originally by: Selim
Edited by: Selim on 26/07/2004 22:32:39
Raptor needs a third turret slot, and 5 more powergrid. Right now its only advantage is that it cant be jammed by just one caldari jammer, and thats a ****e advantage that is only occasionally of benefit. And gawd, give it some more speed.
Yeah id give it atleast another highslot and maybe another turret slot aswell. Currently a raptor is outclassed at everything, you can rig it with blasters..... a taranis is far better, you can rig it with missiles..... a crow is far better or you can rig it for long range..... a crusader is far better.
Damnit, you are posting again... didn't i lock your cage?!
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.07.27 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Grut
Originally by: Selim
Edited by: Selim on 26/07/2004 22:32:39
Raptor needs a third turret slot, and 5 more powergrid. Right now its only advantage is that it cant be jammed by just one caldari jammer, and thats a ****e advantage that is only occasionally of benefit. And gawd, give it some more speed.
Yeah id give it atleast another highslot and maybe another turret slot aswell. Currently a raptor is outclassed at everything, you can rig it with blasters..... a taranis is far better, you can rig it with missiles..... a crow is far better or you can rig it for long range..... a crusader is far better.
Damnit, you are posting again... didn't i lock your cage?!
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Baytt
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Posted - 2004.07.27 11:57:00 -
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ive used both and crow is miles better in almost most aspects and to get over the cost factor of it buy a bpc (should beable to get one for 1mil) and all the components, which should only be around 4mil intotal so ur saving almost 5-10mil depending on the crows price on marktet
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Baytt
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Posted - 2004.07.27 11:57:00 -
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ive used both and crow is miles better in almost most aspects and to get over the cost factor of it buy a bpc (should beable to get one for 1mil) and all the components, which should only be around 4mil intotal so ur saving almost 5-10mil depending on the crows price on marktet
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