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Alexia Morgan
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Posted - 2009.01.14 05:29:00 -
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Edited by: Alexia Morgan on 14/01/2009 05:36:58
I've been thinking about how I felt when I first started playing back in 2006 and I was helped out by some very generous people. The feeling was fantastic!
I want others to feel that too.
So, I'm going to hand out free ISK to new players.
The rules are simple:
- you have to be 2-7 days old
That's it.
I want new players to be encouraged to play more, and to feel good about how supportive veteran players are, and to get excited about this game. Great excitement comes from getting a little bit of a hand when you're first starting out.
Now, some of you might want to pay me back for this gift, when you're starting to make a lot of money. Honestly, I won't say no. :) But also honestly, I don't want or need repayment. Paying me back is your choice. A better way of doing it is to pay it forward.
Give someone else who's new a gift to help them get started, make them happy, and encourage new players to really get into this game. Spread the love.
Contact me in-game with your request. I'll be only too happy to help you out.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.14 06:09:00 -
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Older players all scramble to make newb characters thusly .
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Karasuma Akane
Dirty Sexy Pilots
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Posted - 2009.01.14 06:37:00 -
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Confirming that this character will be receiving the ISK. 
---------- "annoyed trit bars can deliver quite an income"
Originally by: Richard Phallus
Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas damn spies.
Damn counter intelligence officers.
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Alexia Morgan
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Posted - 2009.01.14 06:37:00 -
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Edited by: Alexia Morgan on 14/01/2009 06:37:49
Originally by: Dirk Magnum Older players all scramble to make newb characters thusly .
No worries. If you want to spend the time to make a new character and then wait 2 days so you can then contact me to ask for a minimal amount of ISK, once, then you go for it.

Authentic new players will get something out of this. The rest of you? Go do a mission - it'll take you just a few minutes to make what is a lot of money for a noob.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.14 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Alexia Morgan Edited by: Alexia Morgan on 14/01/2009 06:37:49
Originally by: Dirk Magnum Older players all scramble to make newb characters thusly .
No worries. If you want to spend the time to make a new character and then wait 2 days so you can then contact me to ask for a minimal amount of ISK, once, then you go for it.

Authentic new players will get something out of this. The rest of you? Go do a mission - it'll take you just a few minutes to make what is a lot of money for a noob.
Clearly you don't know how little my time is actually worth to me. 
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SharpMango
14th Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.14 12:16:00 -
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Alexia, just bear in mind ofc that triallists cannot post here. The other thing also would be, would you not feel you're encouraging beggar syndrome? When i first made 4 mill to purchase a caracal after grinding away level2s (i didnt even have a tractor beam so would have to manually go up to each rubbish wreck), i felt over the moon. give a new player 5 mill and that entire desire to make more money will go away, the fact that one has to carefully shepherd their resources to buy the next module etc... it becomes too simple. i DO like it when older players are generous to newer ones, but the newer ones must be met in the right circumstances. For example someone i knew, when she joined the game, she just had the balls to go out and duke it out in 0.0 from practically day1. some old dude, respected her for that and gave her 10 mill after podding her. To me, that is a worthy recipient. And i hope you do have certain criteria for disbursing your money. Then again, it's all your choice. |

Salpad
Caldari Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2009.01.14 12:27:00 -
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I fully support giving small amounts of ISK to new players, and the pay-it-forward rather than payback principle. However, I must warn about giving large amounts of ISK. I was given a very large sum of ISK early in the game, and it did me no good; I spent it unwisely.
I myself tend to give 150k ISK whenever I encounter a really new character (usually if someone convos me for some other purpose, rather than begging for ISK), and I find that, or a slightly higher sum (these days I'd probably give 250k or even 350 ISK) to be a really good thing, since it allows the purchase of a tier 3 frigate, or some neat named modules.
But please, for the sake of the noobs, don't give away millions of ISK to any one new character. Even if you can afford it.
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Alexia Morgan
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Posted - 2009.01.14 21:41:00 -
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I appreciate that trial accounts can't post on the forums, which is why I asked people to contact me in-game.
I also appreciate the good advice people have about giving away money. I don't intend making new players 'rich', but have every desire to help them buy a new frigate + fittings. Enough to get them decently started out mission running.
Thanks for your advice!
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2009.01.14 23:24:00 -
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Please send me money, I'm a new player. .............
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Moar Achura
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Posted - 2009.01.14 23:25:00 -
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I'm brand new, send me money too!
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.15 00:03:00 -
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I've made a new character and will be using this service just FYI.  |

Alexia Morgan
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Posted - 2009.01.15 00:03:00 -
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Contact me in-game with your request. You have to be at least 2 days old, and no older than a week.
Thanks :) |

Moar Achura
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Posted - 2009.01.15 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Alexia Morgan Contact me in-game with your request. You have to be at least 2 days old, and no older than a week.
Thanks :)
I'm so new I don't know how to contact you in game! Send me ISK plz! |

Bo'Tox
Amarr Arkor Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.15 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: SharpMango Alexia, just bear in mind ofc that triallists cannot post here. The other thing also would be, would you not feel you're encouraging beggar syndrome? When i first made 4 mill to purchase a caracal after grinding away level2s (i didnt even have a tractor beam so would have to manually go up to each rubbish wreck), i felt over the moon. give a new player 5 mill and that entire desire to make more money will go away, the fact that one has to carefully shepherd their resources to buy the next module etc... it becomes too simple. i DO like it when older players are generous to newer ones, but the newer ones must be met in the right circumstances. For example someone i knew, when she joined the game, she just had the balls to go out and duke it out in 0.0 from practically day1. some old dude, respected her for that and gave her 10 mill after podding her. To me, that is a worthy recipient. And i hope you do have certain criteria for disbursing your money. Then again, it's all your choice.
And the 5 mill will disappear in an Advanced Learning Skillbook and one other Rank2 Skillbook.....
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Cyprus Black
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.15 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Alexia Morgan Edited by: Alexia Morgan on 14/01/2009 06:37:49
Originally by: Dirk Magnum Older players all scramble to make newb characters thusly .
No worries. If you want to spend the time to make a new character and then wait 2 days so you can then contact me to ask for a minimal amount of ISK, once, then you go for it.
Even just 2 to 5 mill goes a long way for new players. I can't imagine an older player going through the hassle of making a new character for this sort of pocket change. |

Polysynchronicity
Amarr MEK Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.01.15 04:10:00 -
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When I fund newbies, I usually give either items or 1 million ISK. That's enough for a very nicely fitted frigate or most of a destroyer, but isn't really enough to "spoil" you imo. You'll still have to work for anything more than the very basics. |

Bob Ghias
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Posted - 2009.01.15 09:17:00 -
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we made someone roll 2d6 - then gave him that amount in millions of isk..... |

Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club
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Posted - 2009.01.15 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Bob Ghias we made someone roll 2d6 - then gave him that amount in millions of isk.....
bah, 2d10 or gb2WoW |

Dani SP
Caldari Rupture Farms Mining
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Posted - 2009.01.15 16:27:00 -
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I think it would be smarter to help them by doing missions, mining etc.
I am myself a noob (2 months old) but I find great to help dudes who are even more noob than me. I sometimes fly to newbie solar systems (school of applied knowledgers, etc) :) and check for people mining in the ibis.
Sometimes the idiots reject my convos (do they think I am sending an eve-virus or something?) then others just untrust me. Oh, sad thing, they reject the oportunity to get some nice ISKs and meet some new friends :) Daniel, 24, from Spain. Have fun and fly safe =) |

Mithos Victus
Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.01.15 16:39:00 -
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I have three accounts and thus six available empty slots.
The biomass cooldown is what, twelve hours?
So...
Three accounts Six slots Twelve hour cooldown 5 mil/char 60 mil/day 420 mil/week 1.68 mil/month
Hey, that doesn't sound half bad.  |
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Alexia Morgan
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Posted - 2009.01.15 21:40:00 -
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when I decided to do this, I thought to myself, "Self, you're going to get a lot of interest from new players looking for a helping hand."
Little did I know I'd actually get a lot of interest from 'not very smart' people.
But hey, it takes all kinds to make New Eden go round.
The offer is still open to all new players aged between 2 days to 7 days old. Cheers
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Onast
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Posted - 2009.01.16 08:16:00 -
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alexia i think its a very nice idea :) to bad i just barely passed the 7days.. but well, i always liked to earn my own money.
(yaaay my first post ) |

Mithos Victus
Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.01.16 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Mithos Victus on 16/01/2009 18:21:48
Originally by: Alexia Morgan when I decided to do this, I thought to myself, "Self, you're going to get a lot of interest from new players looking for a helping hand."
Little did I know I'd actually get a lot of interest from 'not very smart' people.
But hey, it takes all kinds to make New Eden go round.
The offer is still open to all new players aged between 2 days to 7 days old. Cheers
Yes, because it is smart to give a two day old player a couple of mil to blow on a cruiser they have no idea how to fly, giving them the false sense that everything is easy in EVE, until they are popped after investing every ISK they have and probably didn't even know what insurance is, and then they're back where they started, a little less on the path of learning the right way, rather than thinking EVE is an MMO of free handouts and easy money.
Make a guide for trials and newbies, offer training sessions once a week and give a reward to one of the participants who performs the best after the hour or two of training. Don't just throw ISK at them, that's the last thing they need is to not immediately get an understanding of the one rule in EVE that everyone should be intimately familiar with, don't fly a ship you cannot afford to lose. Cuz you know the first thing they're going to do as a newer player who has just had money thrown at them, is to buy a shiny new ship. |

Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.16 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 16/01/2009 19:42:33
Originally by: Cyprus Black I can't imagine an older player going through the hassle of making a new character for this sort of pocket change.
Confirming my secondary character received funds in the sum of 500,000 ISK.  It was SO worth it.
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Agent Unknown
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Posted - 2009.01.16 20:19:00 -
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I've seen a few people do this in the newbie corporations as well. I had the pleasure of enjoying the fun parts of EVE:
1) Being scammed out of 5mil through a pyramid scheme, 2) Being bait-canned and out another 15mil in equipment after having my Retriever blown to bits, 3) Being podded by pirates upon exiting a 0.4 sec station and losing 40mil in implants..
So yeah...the money may help, but when the unexpected happens, they'll be crying back for more money. As the old saying goes: "Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime".
While I did find it helpful to have a generous donation given to me (someone gave me 1mil when I was around a week old, which helped fix up my frigate to do missions with), too much is a bad thing. I too agree with training newer players instead of handing out ISK like candy. It'll just disappear as fast as it's given.
Everyone will soon learn that the world of EVE is indeed a cold, unforgiving place, with or without help from other players. Of course, joining a player corporation is a great way to make new friends, learn new things about the game, and explore EVE to what it is.
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Alexia Morgan
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Posted - 2009.01.16 22:43:00 -
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For all you people who just love jumping to conclusions about outrageous things, and then acting as if the wild imaginations of your minds are in fact what's happening, I just want to say that I think you're idiots.
And for you who go to the time and effort of making a new character and then waiting 2 days before contacting me, just to get 500,000 ISK, you're even bigger idiots.
I'm giving 500,000 ISK to each new player that wants it. Not millions. And for everyone that wastes their own time proving how stupid they are, I can only laugh at you. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove?
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Mithos Victus
Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.01.17 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Alexia Morgan For all you people who just love jumping to conclusions about outrageous things, and then acting as if the wild imaginations of your minds are in fact what's happening, I just want to say that I think you're idiots.
And for you who go to the time and effort of making a new character and then waiting 2 days before contacting me, just to get 500,000 ISK, you're even bigger idiots.
I'm giving 500,000 ISK to each new player that wants it. Not millions. And for everyone that wastes their own time proving how stupid they are, I can only laugh at you. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove?
We offer constructive criticism, even some alternative methods to help newer players, and this^ is what we get?
Is this the kind of example you are trying to set for new players? _______________________________________________
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