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Sir Ninja
Amarr
Band of Boobs
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Posted - 2009.01.14 11:00:00 -
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am i the only one who feels making a new char these days is pritty much pointless?
it would be cheaper and easier just to buy GTC`s sell em for isk and buy a char, this saves you the pain of training the char from scratch with all the learnings and all that junk, and its cheaper to buy it than pay for sub to train it...
Discuss... |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.14 11:27:00 -
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Some people believe that you can have fun at all SP levels.
Crazy, I know.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.14 11:27:00 -
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For some people, it's not about the destination, but the journey.
For others, pre-grown characters feel to them as somewhat of a cheat, cheapening their own experience.
Also, you have to take into account you don't know what kind of history the character has (enemies made being your main issue), and you can't expect others to know this character is no longer the original owner.
And let's not even begin to talk about how many useful SP (for your purposes) vs total SP the character might have.
But yeah, if SP count is all you can possibly think about, starting a fresh character is pointless, and buying one is the advisable route.
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Create a character || Fit a ship || Get some ISK |
TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.14 11:33:00 -
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Rerolling is pretty pointless.
But your first character is a great journey, figuring out stuff, joining corps and working your way through the skill tree. You cannot possibly know what kind of character you want to buy without playing imo.
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
Minmatar
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
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Posted - 2009.01.14 11:54:00 -
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I did have more fun on a day to day base in my first couple of weeks...
Skills being finished in hours instead of weeks... a new ship every day, struggling for every single ISK (I still feel the pain of losing my first Rifter), Industrials had big-@ss cargoholds, Lvl 3 missions were exciting (hell even lvl 2's were a thrill).
I made a fresh character about 2 or 3 years ago to feel it again, but the experience is different now... because you know what lies ahead.
On the other hand, I think the biggest mistake CCP has ever made is to allow people to trade characters for ISK.
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Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
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Tronjay the'3rd
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Posted - 2009.01.14 15:54:00 -
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It may sound crazy, but i sold my 36m sp main (capable of flying every t2 caldari ship) and rerolled my main just a few days ago. I know exactly what to train and what not, and have a solid goal in mind. Buying a new main aint a product of my own hands in regard to name and appearance. I like it already . So to answer your question....I dissagree. |
Sir Ninja
Amarr
Band of Boobs
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Posted - 2009.01.14 19:17:00 -
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i mean when new players join they`ll realize very soon that there is no way of catching up to older players... unless the veterans are from this point training only the charisma skills and their charisma is 3...and the new guy is training at FULL speed !!! |
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
Minmatar
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
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Posted - 2009.01.14 19:30:00 -
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What is this fascination about "catching-up" all about ?
Are we on a train and did some guys miss it ?
Are they playing a different EVE than me ? |
Cromzor
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Posted - 2009.01.15 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
What is this fascination about "catching-up" all about ?
Are we on a train and did some guys miss it ?
Are they playing a different EVE than me ?
When you start, I think its hard to accept the fact that reguardless of how well you understand the game, it will take a year of SP training for you be able to beat a player of equivalent player skill that has played longer. And that's just for one single ship type.
Most high SP players have forgotten how long it takes to train learning, cap, fitting and nav skills.
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Rifter Drifter
Minmatar
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2009.01.15 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cromzor
Originally by: Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
What is this fascination about "catching-up" all about ?
Are we on a train and did some guys miss it ?
Are they playing a different EVE than me ?
When you start, I think its hard to accept the fact that reguardless of how well you understand the game, it will take a year of SP training for you be able to beat a player of equivalent player skill that has played longer. And that's just for one single ship type.
Most high SP players have forgotten how long it takes to train learning, cap, fitting and nav skills.
Fly a falcon.
/thread |
Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.15 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cromzor
Originally by: Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
What is this fascination about "catching-up" all about ?
Are we on a train and did some guys miss it ?
Are they playing a different EVE than me ?
When you start, I think its hard to accept the fact that reguardless of how well you understand the game, it will take a year of SP training for you be able to beat a player of equivalent player skill that has played longer. And that's just for one single ship type.
Most high SP players have forgotten how long it takes to train learning, cap, fitting and nav skills.
They did however train it, my friend. You're allowed to bypass it, if you have the ISK or money. Be happy that you can. |
Lord Windu
Echelon Holdings
Echelon.
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Posted - 2009.01.15 07:02:00 -
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I sometimes make a new char just to have a little fun with, run the tutorials, mine absolute crap in the belts and just mess around. Now if I can do that now and then and still enjoy it after I have been playing for more than 2 years then I don't see why a new player wouldn't.
Sig coming SoonÖ |
Sanzorz
Amarr
Mark Of Chaos
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Posted - 2009.01.15 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cromzor
When you start, I think its hard to accept the fact that reguardless of how well you understand the game, it will take a year of SP training for you be able to beat a player of equivalent player skill that has played longer. And that's just for one single ship type.
Most high SP players have forgotten how long it takes to train learning, cap, fitting and nav skills.
The problem here is that you "think" of this when you run around solo. I bet you've heard it before, but EVE is not really the solo kind MMO. Despite having low SP, then you can be valuable enough in a gang depending on your role. It's still possible to solo, but most people would chose their target no matter what. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.01.15 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
I did have more fun on a day to day base in my first couple of weeks...
Skills being finished in hours instead of weeks... a new ship every day, struggling for every single ISK (I still feel the pain of losing my first Rifter), Industrials had big-@ss cargoholds, Lvl 3 missions were exciting (hell even lvl 2's were a thrill).
I made a fresh character about 2 or 3 years ago to feel it again, but the experience is different now... because you know what lies ahead.
On the other hand, I think the biggest mistake CCP has ever made is to allow people to trade characters for ISK.
There's no way to stop people trading characters for ISK or other negotiables. It'll happen regardless.
All CCP did was make the process relatively secure. |
Mona X
Caldari
Polish Task Forces
C0VEN
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Posted - 2009.01.15 11:46:00 -
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And profitable for CCP.
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PinkMonkey Dragon
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Posted - 2009.01.15 12:16:00 -
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i, for one, love building alts.
i dont much care for the training of the learning skills, but, give it a month,a nd it's out of the way (i'm going much longer than a month on my new alt however, to compete with the caldari--since i didnt want an ugly toon).
i've always had a passion for creating new characters. In the game that brought me to eve, i had 5 characters, that were made, and soemties remade... it's FUN to start out and test new theories. sure, my main flies everything under the gallente and caldari sun, and half the amarr.. but an alt that flies exclusivly minmatar ships... was fun to make. now i LOVE autocannons and arties.. but still havnt trained them on either of my characters i kept.
a new alt is fun, to test how dedicated you can be to a specific skill training goal (such as finding a way to get 24 mill SP in a year)..
i'll always make alts, because i love doing it. that, and they're useful when i need stuffs moved :p |
Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.15 12:50:00 -
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Catching up...
Yeah sure if that is what you are playing the game for... forget it though our dear doctor is still way ahead of you all. 
If you want to have fun and a character that is really your own then start from scratch and build it from there. You will be able to make a near perfect character (we all are guilty of switching training plans to be able to fly this new ship or use the new cool thing that came out recently)
But I hate the trainign skills why do I have to train them... who says you does? Why would you? Train skills you like to have and can have fun with, and then do the learning skills. You can't believe how much fun a 1/10 complex can be in a rookie ship  or doing a level 1 mision and getting 35LP from your agent. I know it is not the big flashy titan and other compensation tools out there but who cares in the end EVE is about having fun not having the highest SP count or the biggest ship. |
Astro Glyde
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Posted - 2009.01.15 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
For some people, it's not about the destination, but the journey.
This came from some dude lost in a forest.
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Kyanzes
Amarr
Utopian Research I.E.L.
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.15 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Kyanzes on 15/01/2009 17:10:25
Originally by: Tronjay the'3rd
It may sound crazy, but i sold my 36m sp main (capable of flying every t2 caldari ship) and rerolled my main just a few days ago. I know exactly what to train and what not, and have a solid goal in mind. Buying a new main aint a product of my own hands in regard to name and appearance. I like it already. So to answer your question....I dissagree.
Ofc the billions of ISK and billions worth of stuff come handy 
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Unclouded by conscience, remorse or delusions of morality. |
Caffeine Junkie
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2009.01.16 12:15:00 -
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I start new chars all the time, train to 10 - 25m SP and sell them.
I think of it as being a public service for the new people who join the game, get to like it and can then jump up to a reasonable SP level once they have the hang of things.
The ISK is nice to ofc.
If everyone just bought chars and didn't start them, pretty soon there wouldn't be many to buy and prices would skyrocket. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Mona X
And profitable for CCP.
So? They're not a charity. |
Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2009.01.16 13:35:00 -
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Of course it's pointless to start a new character, then the guys who come after you will ***** and moan about how they can never catch up to you. |
SCAM CEO
Minmatar
S.C.A.M.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 22:21:00 -
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Journey > Destination, brother I don't judge do what you enjoy doing just don't break any R/L rules |
Anddeh McNab
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.01.17 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
But your first character is a great journey, figuring out stuff, joining corps and working your way through the skill tree.
This. This is my frist char and for me building a character up from scratch, from losing Rifters to now popping BS's in my Mael, from being scared to death of low-sec to roaming FW in an inty; these are experiences that money can't buy.
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"Everyone knows that Amarr BS's only have high slots, low slots and Cap Recharger II slots." |
Sheindo
Amarr
Unconventional Oversights
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Posted - 2009.01.17 12:50:00 -
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Well, it can be as it can't
If you are just a the begining and don't really enjoy your current char have more or less 2 millions sp then for me it is ok to do so, no point to play with something you don't like...
I did it myself and Now after couple of weeks I almost have the same sp that I had with my previous char and I am now finally enjoying playing the game |
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