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Stargirl
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Posted - 2004.07.27 05:36:00 -
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i'm posting rumors, so many may not be true. but i heard that SA is making everyone fight against CA to prove themselves before they can fly stain and mine the area.
SA is also now supposed to take a share of everything mined in stain so as they can keep building ships for the war with CA.
apparently, if a corp now wants to join SA they have to put their ships and clones on the line and stand up against CA, which means they are asking people to lose ships and possibly implants if podded... and in return they get nothing.
i heard SA people are also getting mad cuz 2 or 3 miners are making millions, while a ton of SA are fighting CA.
SA is also making some systems and belts strictly available to ONE corp.
it seems to be SA is way out of line. their military channel has been monitored by CA for months and right now SA seems to be in a reorganization phase... and if this is all true... you'll start to see your members drop, which means less military, less skilled players, and MORE losses to CA.
SA, i know you're a group of many corps, but whoever makes your decisions really stinks... bad.
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Stargirl
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Posted - 2004.07.27 05:36:00 -
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i'm posting rumors, so many may not be true. but i heard that SA is making everyone fight against CA to prove themselves before they can fly stain and mine the area.
SA is also now supposed to take a share of everything mined in stain so as they can keep building ships for the war with CA.
apparently, if a corp now wants to join SA they have to put their ships and clones on the line and stand up against CA, which means they are asking people to lose ships and possibly implants if podded... and in return they get nothing.
i heard SA people are also getting mad cuz 2 or 3 miners are making millions, while a ton of SA are fighting CA.
SA is also making some systems and belts strictly available to ONE corp.
it seems to be SA is way out of line. their military channel has been monitored by CA for months and right now SA seems to be in a reorganization phase... and if this is all true... you'll start to see your members drop, which means less military, less skilled players, and MORE losses to CA.
SA, i know you're a group of many corps, but whoever makes your decisions really stinks... bad.
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Lotsof Sashimi
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Posted - 2004.07.27 05:40:00 -
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Wow. Today really is the day of bad propaganda. First Zelota, now you.
I give Zelota a 6 for effort. You only get a 3.
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Lotsof Sashimi
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Posted - 2004.07.27 05:40:00 -
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Wow. Today really is the day of bad propaganda. First Zelota, now you.
I give Zelota a 6 for effort. You only get a 3.
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Stargirl
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Posted - 2004.07.27 05:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Lotsof Sashimi
Wow. Today really is the day of bad propaganda. First Zelota, now you.
I give Zelota a 6 for effort. You only get a 3.
i give you a 2 for intelligence.
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Stargirl
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Posted - 2004.07.27 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Lotsof Sashimi
Wow. Today really is the day of bad propaganda. First Zelota, now you.
I give Zelota a 6 for effort. You only get a 3.
i give you a 2 for intelligence.
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Cycler
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Posted - 2004.07.27 06:05:00 -
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Stargirl,
You know, if you woulnd't be an alt and you haven't said you're posting rumors we MIGHT believe you. But these circumstances make your post stink... bad.
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No Good without Evil. No Love without Hate. No Innocence without Sin.
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Cycler
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Posted - 2004.07.27 06:05:00 -
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Stargirl,
You know, if you woulnd't be an alt and you haven't said you're posting rumors we MIGHT believe you. But these circumstances make your post stink... bad.
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No Good without Evil. No Love without Hate. No Innocence without Sin.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.07.27 06:20:00 -
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Sounds like something any organised and committed alliance would do.
No mining without contribution, sounds fair.
The only people that moan about it? Those that just want to benefit from alliance space, while not putting out to defend it.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.07.27 06:20:00 -
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Sounds like something any organised and committed alliance would do.
No mining without contribution, sounds fair.
The only people that moan about it? Those that just want to benefit from alliance space, while not putting out to defend it.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.07.27 06:27:00 -
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SA has a right to ;)
And besides, if its true, they show only 1 thing, the desire and will to destroy CA. Big deal. Their policy, their politics. Not even worth a post...
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.07.27 06:27:00 -
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SA has a right to ;)
And besides, if its true, they show only 1 thing, the desire and will to destroy CA. Big deal. Their policy, their politics. Not even worth a post...
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.07.27 06:31:00 -
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Well afaik SA claiming a percentage of ore mined is nothing new.
Seems perfectly reasonable to require military participation of member corps in exchange for access.. Nobody likes freeloaders.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.07.27 06:31:00 -
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Well afaik SA claiming a percentage of ore mined is nothing new.
Seems perfectly reasonable to require military participation of member corps in exchange for access.. Nobody likes freeloaders.
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.07.27 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Stargirl
i'm posting rumors, so many may not be true.
dito.
Originally by: Stargirl
but i heard that SA is making everyone fight against CA to prove themselves before they can fly stain and mine the area.
wheres the problem? while we are fighting curse, should other corps just mine under our protection and make a ****load of money?
Fancy. |
Moah
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Posted - 2004.07.27 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Stargirl
i'm posting rumors, so many may not be true.
dito.
Originally by: Stargirl
but i heard that SA is making everyone fight against CA to prove themselves before they can fly stain and mine the area.
wheres the problem? while we are fighting curse, should other corps just mine under our protection and make a ****load of money?
Fancy. |
Meridius
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Posted - 2004.07.27 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Stargirl
i heard SA people are also getting mad cuz 2 or 3 miners are making millions, while a ton of SA are fighting CA.
Umm no **** they would get mad.
The way it should work is that every corp in an alliance should have to have a pvp division. If that division holds there end up in battle then there mining division can mine all they want.
That said, i'm not exactly sure how these things actually work out. This is just what makes sense to me.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.07.27 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Stargirl
i heard SA people are also getting mad cuz 2 or 3 miners are making millions, while a ton of SA are fighting CA.
Umm no **** they would get mad.
The way it should work is that every corp in an alliance should have to have a pvp division. If that division holds there end up in battle then there mining division can mine all they want.
That said, i'm not exactly sure how these things actually work out. This is just what makes sense to me.
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.07.27 08:50:00 -
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I think stain are very efficient from what I have seen. They have allowed certain corps sole access to systems before with great success, and have always operated a trial system of some kind. Those who don't wish for such rules can become friends of stain instead.
I wish CA had sole access rights to systems when we were in it because some freeloaders got all the stations and offices which was tarded. While the fighters were struggling to get a quality mining op on the go, the freeloaders are making $$$ on ebay.
Sig Thief
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.07.27 08:50:00 -
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I think stain are very efficient from what I have seen. They have allowed certain corps sole access to systems before with great success, and have always operated a trial system of some kind. Those who don't wish for such rules can become friends of stain instead.
I wish CA had sole access rights to systems when we were in it because some freeloaders got all the stations and offices which was tarded. While the fighters were struggling to get a quality mining op on the go, the freeloaders are making $$$ on ebay.
Sig Thief
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Ajill
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Posted - 2004.07.27 09:03:00 -
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I fail to see how any of that is "bad"
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Ajill
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Posted - 2004.07.27 09:03:00 -
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I fail to see how any of that is "bad"
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.27 09:12:00 -
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That's the current proble with CA, I've heard.
They've now got so many corporations mining but not fighting that the hardcore pvp element are getting ****ed off.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.27 09:12:00 -
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That's the current proble with CA, I've heard.
They've now got so many corporations mining but not fighting that the hardcore pvp element are getting ****ed off.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2004.07.27 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: Aeryn Sun on 27/07/2004 10:01:08
Any alliance has their "secure" channels infiltrated. Thats why its rotated.
Sometimes, SA has spies in CA channels, and sometimes CA has spies in SA channels. Wonder if CCP could give channel admins a log of who invited whom, etc. (hummm )
What I don't understand is... Who are you? Why don't you know these things already? Did we kick your corp out of the Friends of Stain list?
And yes, SA is strict. So are most the other bigger alliances. Its from need.
If you are CA... then pls talk to your corp superiours. Even if we are at war with CA, we still respect them highly. Over the past months, smacktalk has decreased (well.. at least when I am there :) ) to an amazing low... from both sides.
We have limited mineral reserves, just like the next alliance.
Of course newcomers to our alliance have to fight. How else can we get proof of their dedication and ability to keep our space ours. (there is a reason why we haven't gone under even with great difficulties in the past)
Anywhoo.. just my two isks.
Aeryn Sun
SA Fleet Captain
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2004.07.27 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: Aeryn Sun on 27/07/2004 10:01:08
Any alliance has their "secure" channels infiltrated. Thats why its rotated.
Sometimes, SA has spies in CA channels, and sometimes CA has spies in SA channels. Wonder if CCP could give channel admins a log of who invited whom, etc. (hummm )
What I don't understand is... Who are you? Why don't you know these things already? Did we kick your corp out of the Friends of Stain list?
And yes, SA is strict. So are most the other bigger alliances. Its from need.
If you are CA... then pls talk to your corp superiours. Even if we are at war with CA, we still respect them highly. Over the past months, smacktalk has decreased (well.. at least when I am there :) ) to an amazing low... from both sides.
We have limited mineral reserves, just like the next alliance.
Of course newcomers to our alliance have to fight. How else can we get proof of their dedication and ability to keep our space ours. (there is a reason why we haven't gone under even with great difficulties in the past)
Anywhoo.. just my two isks.
Aeryn Sun
SA Fleet Captain
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.07.27 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Aeryn Sun
Edited by: Aeryn Sun on 27/07/2004 10:01:08
Any alliance has their "secure" channels infiltrated. Thats why its rotated.
Sometimes, SA has spies in CA channels, and sometimes CA has spies in SA channels. Wonder if CCP could give channel admins a log of who invited whom, etc. (hummm )
What I don't understand is... Who are you? Why don't you know these things already? Did we kick your corp out of the Friends of Stain list?
And yes, SA is strict. So are most the other bigger alliances. Its from need.
If you are CA... then pls talk to your corp superiours. Even if we are at war with CA, we still respect them highly. Over the past months, smacktalk has decreased (well.. at least when I am there :) ) to an amazing low... from both sides.
We have limited mineral reserves, just like the next alliance.
Of course newcomers to our alliance have to fight. How else can we get proof of their dedication and ability to keep our space ours. (there is a reason why we haven't gone under even with great difficulties in the past)
Anywhoo.. just my two isks.
Aeryn Sun
SA Fleet Captain
Well said Aeryn.
The current situation between SA and CA is good in the way we show respect towards each other (even though we are bitter enemies).
I think it's quite a natural state when you have been fighting so long as you realize that smack talk etc is really not necessary and rather immature as we both enjoy the fights.
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.07.27 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Aeryn Sun
Edited by: Aeryn Sun on 27/07/2004 10:01:08
Any alliance has their "secure" channels infiltrated. Thats why its rotated.
Sometimes, SA has spies in CA channels, and sometimes CA has spies in SA channels. Wonder if CCP could give channel admins a log of who invited whom, etc. (hummm )
What I don't understand is... Who are you? Why don't you know these things already? Did we kick your corp out of the Friends of Stain list?
And yes, SA is strict. So are most the other bigger alliances. Its from need.
If you are CA... then pls talk to your corp superiours. Even if we are at war with CA, we still respect them highly. Over the past months, smacktalk has decreased (well.. at least when I am there :) ) to an amazing low... from both sides.
We have limited mineral reserves, just like the next alliance.
Of course newcomers to our alliance have to fight. How else can we get proof of their dedication and ability to keep our space ours. (there is a reason why we haven't gone under even with great difficulties in the past)
Anywhoo.. just my two isks.
Aeryn Sun
SA Fleet Captain
Well said Aeryn.
The current situation between SA and CA is good in the way we show respect towards each other (even though we are bitter enemies).
I think it's quite a natural state when you have been fighting so long as you realize that smack talk etc is really not necessary and rather immature as we both enjoy the fights.
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2004.07.27 10:35:00 -
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Oh and I have to say one thing:
"apparently, if a corp now wants to join SA they have to put their ships and clones on the line and stand up against CA, which means they are asking people to lose ships and possibly implants if podded... and in return they get nothing."
Woot? Them corps get nothing? Having access and defenses in 0.0 space is valued greatly by most players in the eve community.
Aeryn Sun
SA Fleet Captain
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2004.07.27 10:35:00 -
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Oh and I have to say one thing:
"apparently, if a corp now wants to join SA they have to put their ships and clones on the line and stand up against CA, which means they are asking people to lose ships and possibly implants if podded... and in return they get nothing."
Woot? Them corps get nothing? Having access and defenses in 0.0 space is valued greatly by most players in the eve community.
Aeryn Sun
SA Fleet Captain
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2004.07.27 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Stargirl
i'm posting rumors, so many may not be true. but i heard that SA is making everyone fight against CA to prove themselves before they can fly stain and mine the area.
SA is also now supposed to take a share of everything mined in stain so as they can keep building ships for the war with CA.
apparently, if a corp now wants to join SA they have to put their ships and clones on the line and stand up against CA, which means they are asking people to lose ships and possibly implants if podded... and in return they get nothing.
i heard SA people are also getting mad cuz 2 or 3 miners are making millions, while a ton of SA are fighting CA.
SA is also making some systems and belts strictly available to ONE corp.
it seems to be SA is way out of line. their military channel has been monitored by CA for months and right now SA seems to be in a reorganization phase... and if this is all true... you'll start to see your members drop, which means less military, less skilled players, and MORE losses to CA.
SA, i know you're a group of many corps, but whoever makes your decisions really stinks... bad.
To borrow a term from other people:
Unplug your keyboard.
The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2004.07.27 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Stargirl
i'm posting rumors, so many may not be true. but i heard that SA is making everyone fight against CA to prove themselves before they can fly stain and mine the area.
SA is also now supposed to take a share of everything mined in stain so as they can keep building ships for the war with CA.
apparently, if a corp now wants to join SA they have to put their ships and clones on the line and stand up against CA, which means they are asking people to lose ships and possibly implants if podded... and in return they get nothing.
i heard SA people are also getting mad cuz 2 or 3 miners are making millions, while a ton of SA are fighting CA.
SA is also making some systems and belts strictly available to ONE corp.
it seems to be SA is way out of line. their military channel has been monitored by CA for months and right now SA seems to be in a reorganization phase... and if this is all true... you'll start to see your members drop, which means less military, less skilled players, and MORE losses to CA.
SA, i know you're a group of many corps, but whoever makes your decisions really stinks... bad.
To borrow a term from other people:
Unplug your keyboard.
The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.07.27 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Stargirl
i'm posting rumors, so many may not be true. but i heard that SA is making everyone fight against CA to prove themselves before they can fly stain and mine the area.
SA is also now supposed to take a share of everything mined in stain so as they can keep building ships for the war with CA.
apparently, if a corp now wants to join SA they have to put their ships and clones on the line and stand up against CA, which means they are asking people to lose ships and possibly implants if podded... and in return they get nothing.
i heard SA people are also getting mad cuz 2 or 3 miners are making millions, while a ton of SA are fighting CA.
SA is also making some systems and belts strictly available to ONE corp.
it seems to be SA is way out of line. their military channel has been monitored by CA for months and right now SA seems to be in a reorganization phase... and if this is all true... you'll start to see your members drop, which means less military, less skilled players, and MORE losses to CA.
SA, i know you're a group of many corps, but whoever makes your decisions really stinks... bad.
Trust me, if CA would do this and god i hope so because we really lack the will (as in willing to do so) to handle the situation like SA is doing, then alot of those kill lists everyone who is enemy of CA is posting would be alot shorter.
1 Person who mines ark or bistot can make 300MILJOIN a week!!!! EASY! Now isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth to contribute to a part of space beeing save and putting in some contribution.
I have seen SA recruit tons of corporations, and by doing that alot regions will be mined empty pretty quick if that isnt controlled properly.
SA out of line? No, and i wish that CA would go out of line in such manner.
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.07.27 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Stargirl
i'm posting rumors, so many may not be true. but i heard that SA is making everyone fight against CA to prove themselves before they can fly stain and mine the area.
SA is also now supposed to take a share of everything mined in stain so as they can keep building ships for the war with CA.
apparently, if a corp now wants to join SA they have to put their ships and clones on the line and stand up against CA, which means they are asking people to lose ships and possibly implants if podded... and in return they get nothing.
i heard SA people are also getting mad cuz 2 or 3 miners are making millions, while a ton of SA are fighting CA.
SA is also making some systems and belts strictly available to ONE corp.
it seems to be SA is way out of line. their military channel has been monitored by CA for months and right now SA seems to be in a reorganization phase... and if this is all true... you'll start to see your members drop, which means less military, less skilled players, and MORE losses to CA.
SA, i know you're a group of many corps, but whoever makes your decisions really stinks... bad.
Trust me, if CA would do this and god i hope so because we really lack the will (as in willing to do so) to handle the situation like SA is doing, then alot of those kill lists everyone who is enemy of CA is posting would be alot shorter.
1 Person who mines ark or bistot can make 300MILJOIN a week!!!! EASY! Now isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth to contribute to a part of space beeing save and putting in some contribution.
I have seen SA recruit tons of corporations, and by doing that alot regions will be mined empty pretty quick if that isnt controlled properly.
SA out of line? No, and i wish that CA would go out of line in such manner.
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Moridin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 12:49:00 -
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any corp has to prove itself to become a member. and if you a friend of any alliance u will soon become shot by one of the others. (curse in my case) and just that is a big motivator to get out and get some. so in short, mine for a ship and then pod some.
there are 13 people with Elvis in there name. i intend to get them all and bury the bastard once and for all |
Moridin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 12:49:00 -
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any corp has to prove itself to become a member. and if you a friend of any alliance u will soon become shot by one of the others. (curse in my case) and just that is a big motivator to get out and get some. so in short, mine for a ship and then pod some.
there are 13 people with Elvis in there name. i intend to get them all and bury the bastard once and for all |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.07.27 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 27/07/2004 12:54:14
It sounds like a good policy in my opinon. Far to many ppl who are in alliances these days and reap the benifits of them (which are vastly rewarding in 0.0 space) dont contribute enough back into those allinaces. This is the only way u can be sure their doing something for you before you let them loose in your asteroid belts.
Makes sense no?
Also worth a note, i'm not sure how many of you have visited Catch/Stain/Curse recently, but it's entirley unique to any other area in eve, the sheer hositlity means that these corporations will need time to adapt and operate amongst within them. This tactic will only toughin up these corps, thus making them more suited to operate and contribute towards the SA.
Reverend Necrona |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.07.27 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 27/07/2004 12:54:14
It sounds like a good policy in my opinon. Far to many ppl who are in alliances these days and reap the benifits of them (which are vastly rewarding in 0.0 space) dont contribute enough back into those allinaces. This is the only way u can be sure their doing something for you before you let them loose in your asteroid belts.
Makes sense no?
Also worth a note, i'm not sure how many of you have visited Catch/Stain/Curse recently, but it's entirley unique to any other area in eve, the sheer hositlity means that these corporations will need time to adapt and operate amongst within them. This tactic will only toughin up these corps, thus making them more suited to operate and contribute towards the SA.
Reverend Necrona |
Kipkruide
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Posted - 2004.07.27 12:57:00 -
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besides most corps in SA like putting their clones and ships on the line. :), eve witout pvp is sooo boring. Havent killed anything in a week and i was sent down to empire for a bit of reorganization there because my corpies were getting skittish about the foaming at the mouth thing.
If peeps don't like fighting the good fight i suggest they don't join, might be better of in xetic space, got five times the rare ore and space we do anywayz. :)/.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2004.07.27 12:57:00 -
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besides most corps in SA like putting their clones and ships on the line. :), eve witout pvp is sooo boring. Havent killed anything in a week and i was sent down to empire for a bit of reorganization there because my corpies were getting skittish about the foaming at the mouth thing.
If peeps don't like fighting the good fight i suggest they don't join, might be better of in xetic space, got five times the rare ore and space we do anywayz. :)/.
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The Zuffler
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:18:00 -
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What i want to know is, why do SA say catch region is closed when even CA acknowledge it's a disputed region?
SA have ****ed off a lot of potential friends with this decision.
Most of catch is about as closed as a wide-open barn door...  |
The Zuffler
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:18:00 -
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What i want to know is, why do SA say catch region is closed when even CA acknowledge it's a disputed region?
SA have ****ed off a lot of potential friends with this decision.
Most of catch is about as closed as a wide-open barn door... |
Byarne
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:19:00 -
[43]
now playing Metallica - So What.mp3
So ******* what?
Who cares?
Iv¦e been every ******* were......... so what, so what....
Who cares, who cares... you!
Hahaha
so what you poor little...... ;Ì
i love this song.
peace and love to you all
who cares not you
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Byarne
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:19:00 -
[44]
now playing Metallica - So What.mp3
So ******* what?
Who cares?
Iv¦e been every ******* were......... so what, so what....
Who cares, who cares... you!
Hahaha
so what you poor little...... ;Ì
i love this song.
peace and love to you all
who cares not you
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:40:00 -
[45]
Everything below HY- and V-3 is SA controlled space. Has always been. Why would we change it? We have bled for it, fought hard to retain it.
Control and overview over your regions is core to alliance warfare in EVE. CA do the same with their regions, as do most the other alliances. I see nothing wrong with this.
Aeryn Sun
SA Fleet Captain
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:40:00 -
[46]
Everything below HY- and V-3 is SA controlled space. Has always been. Why would we change it? We have bled for it, fought hard to retain it.
Control and overview over your regions is core to alliance warfare in EVE. CA do the same with their regions, as do most the other alliances. I see nothing wrong with this.
Aeryn Sun
SA Fleet Captain
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FileCop AI
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:54:00 -
[47]
Wow stargirl - you got us ;//
I can only say.. you're absolutely right. Damn... You're a first-class spy ;)
I admit to everything. Yes, SA corps have to fight in order to become members of SA.. OH NO!!!
But yeah, SA is strict. We don't allow the average noob corp member to come mine our ores.. too bad. And you have to fight to be a member, because we are a group of people who like to fight. We're not just here to get rich.
Oh, and that's kinda what people get in return also. The thrill and rush of fighting - along with plenty of opportunities to hunt npc or mine also.
But again, you caught us red-handed. /me shoots himself.
FileCop AI of MASS
Co-CEO |
FileCop AI
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:54:00 -
[48]
Wow stargirl - you got us ;//
I can only say.. you're absolutely right. Damn... You're a first-class spy ;)
I admit to everything. Yes, SA corps have to fight in order to become members of SA.. OH NO!!!
But yeah, SA is strict. We don't allow the average noob corp member to come mine our ores.. too bad. And you have to fight to be a member, because we are a group of people who like to fight. We're not just here to get rich.
Oh, and that's kinda what people get in return also. The thrill and rush of fighting - along with plenty of opportunities to hunt npc or mine also.
But again, you caught us red-handed. /me shoots himself.
FileCop AI of MASS
Co-CEO |
Byarne
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:21:00 -
[49]
Originally by: FileCop AI
Wow stargirl - you got us ;//
I can only say.. you're absolutely right. Damn... You're a first-class spy ;)
I admit to everything. Yes, SA corps have to fight in order to become members of SA.. OH NO!!!
But yeah, SA is strict. We don't allow the average noob corp member to come mine our ores.. too bad. And you have to fight to be a member, because we are a group of people who like to fight. We're not just here to get rich.
Oh, and that's kinda what people get in return also. The thrill and rush of fighting - along with plenty of opportunities to hunt npc or mine also.
But again, you caught us red-handed. /me shoots himself.
<- need i say more
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Byarne
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:21:00 -
[50]
Originally by: FileCop AI
Wow stargirl - you got us ;//
I can only say.. you're absolutely right. Damn... You're a first-class spy ;)
I admit to everything. Yes, SA corps have to fight in order to become members of SA.. OH NO!!!
But yeah, SA is strict. We don't allow the average noob corp member to come mine our ores.. too bad. And you have to fight to be a member, because we are a group of people who like to fight. We're not just here to get rich.
Oh, and that's kinda what people get in return also. The thrill and rush of fighting - along with plenty of opportunities to hunt npc or mine also.
But again, you caught us red-handed. /me shoots himself.
<- need i say more
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:30:00 -
[51]
zuffler = CA alt..?
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:30:00 -
[52]
zuffler = CA alt..?
My vids and random stuff |
Kulach
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:36:00 -
[53]
Originally by: MAXSuicide
zuffler = CA alt..?
Why would zuffler be a CA alt? Most comments from CA people have agreed with SA doing the right thing.
Your comment does not make sense
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:36:00 -
[54]
Originally by: MAXSuicide
zuffler = CA alt..?
Why would zuffler be a CA alt? Most comments from CA people have agreed with SA doing the right thing.
Your comment does not make sense
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:41:00 -
[55]
yeh silly question
This thread is about the practices of the alliances... its really not about SA per say (in my v.)
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Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:41:00 -
[56]
yeh silly question
This thread is about the practices of the alliances... its really not about SA per say (in my v.)
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Harkan Ramientes
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:45:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Harkan Ramientes on 27/07/2004 14:48:33
unsolicited suggestion: if you have doubts just contact an SA representative and ask directly, so you can post something more than "rumors"
and btw, strict or not their set of rules work
Harkan Ramientes -AESC- -®-
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Harkan Ramientes
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:45:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Harkan Ramientes on 27/07/2004 14:48:33
unsolicited suggestion: if you have doubts just contact an SA representative and ask directly, so you can post something more than "rumors"
and btw, strict or not their set of rules work
Harkan Ramientes -AESC- -®-
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:25:00 -
[59]
Originally by: The Zuffler
What i want to know is, why do SA say catch region is closed when even CA acknowledge it's a disputed region?
SA have ****ed off a lot of potential friends with this decision.
Most of catch is about as closed as a wide-open barn door...
If SA/Xetic were not around, we'd claim catch. We only say it's disuputed because we don't control it 24/7.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:25:00 -
[60]
Originally by: The Zuffler
What i want to know is, why do SA say catch region is closed when even CA acknowledge it's a disputed region?
SA have ****ed off a lot of potential friends with this decision.
Most of catch is about as closed as a wide-open barn door...
If SA/Xetic were not around, we'd claim catch. We only say it's disuputed because we don't control it 24/7.
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Sochin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:40:00 -
[61]
Why does everyone assume someone saying something negative about SA is a CA alt. When we want to talk smack about SA, we'll do it with our mains. People already expect us to, so might as well.
In any event, its unlikely this post was a CA alt because everyone in CA knows the system described is a good one. I would like to see it implemented in CA, as we have entirely to many people not pulling their weight.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Sochin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:40:00 -
[62]
Why does everyone assume someone saying something negative about SA is a CA alt. When we want to talk smack about SA, we'll do it with our mains. People already expect us to, so might as well.
In any event, its unlikely this post was a CA alt because everyone in CA knows the system described is a good one. I would like to see it implemented in CA, as we have entirely to many people not pulling their weight.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Orbital Drift
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:51:00 -
[63]
You want the ore, you take the ore.
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Orbital Drift
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:51:00 -
[64]
You want the ore, you take the ore.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:57:00 -
[65]
Interesting, because some of those policies are purely on debate by command, like belt for belt. Guess what? We will never do it again. The trouble Civ and Duke caused with that policy is NOT worth ressurecting. Some SYSTEMS are only allowedfor certain corps to be in... they are called Full Members and thats THIER privilage. Joining stain isa commitment. We only take the best. We hold our members to a trial anda standard, and if they commit to us, we commit to them. Stain is a giant family. Everyone is "related". If you dont cut it, we wont invite the annoying fat, lazy, cousin to dinner. I'm a miner, a fighter, and beaurocrat. I see all sides to each story. But some people getting rich while some people keep them safe and not seeing a return is ****ing ME off. I'm generally the moderate voice in stain. Now, since you knew things you shouldnt know, I have to do an investigation.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:57:00 -
[66]
Interesting, because some of those policies are purely on debate by command, like belt for belt. Guess what? We will never do it again. The trouble Civ and Duke caused with that policy is NOT worth ressurecting. Some SYSTEMS are only allowedfor certain corps to be in... they are called Full Members and thats THIER privilage. Joining stain isa commitment. We only take the best. We hold our members to a trial anda standard, and if they commit to us, we commit to them. Stain is a giant family. Everyone is "related". If you dont cut it, we wont invite the annoying fat, lazy, cousin to dinner. I'm a miner, a fighter, and beaurocrat. I see all sides to each story. But some people getting rich while some people keep them safe and not seeing a return is ****ing ME off. I'm generally the moderate voice in stain. Now, since you knew things you shouldnt know, I have to do an investigation.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Fred0
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Posted - 2004.07.27 20:04:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Sochin
I would like to see it implemented in CA, as we have entirely to many people not pulling their weight.
I think it takes tough times to make a culling of an alliance. SA has had a very rough ride the last 6 months and it's only natural they should emerge stronger from it. Dead weight gone and the ones still there are very battle-hardened. FA also did a clearout after the m0o/FE thingy. The RL analogies are clear and it it's always worked the same way...
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Fred0
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Posted - 2004.07.27 20:04:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Sochin
I would like to see it implemented in CA, as we have entirely to many people not pulling their weight.
I think it takes tough times to make a culling of an alliance. SA has had a very rough ride the last 6 months and it's only natural they should emerge stronger from it. Dead weight gone and the ones still there are very battle-hardened. FA also did a clearout after the m0o/FE thingy. The RL analogies are clear and it it's always worked the same way...
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.07.27 21:43:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 27/07/2004 22:07:04
Sounds good, corps in Alliances should pull their weight, This was a big prob for the CFS lots of corps very few contributing to defence.. Think its called putting you're money where your mouth is.. Good luck SA.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.07.27 21:43:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 27/07/2004 22:07:04
Sounds good, corps in Alliances should pull their weight, This was a big prob for the CFS lots of corps very few contributing to defence.. Think its called putting you're money where your mouth is.. Good luck SA.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Ron Jeremy2K
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Posted - 2004.07.27 21:47:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Stargirl
i'm posting rumors, so many may not be true. but i heard that SA is making everyone fight against CA to prove themselves before they can fly stain and mine the area.
SA is also now supposed to take a share of everything mined in stain so as they can keep building ships for the war with CA.
apparently, if a corp now wants to join SA they have to put their ships and clones on the line and stand up against CA, which means they are asking people to lose ships and possibly implants if podded... and in return they get nothing.
There is nothing wrong with this aproach if thats what SA does, why should they give anyone anything they havent fougth for it?
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Ron Jeremy2K
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Posted - 2004.07.27 21:47:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Stargirl
i'm posting rumors, so many may not be true. but i heard that SA is making everyone fight against CA to prove themselves before they can fly stain and mine the area.
SA is also now supposed to take a share of everything mined in stain so as they can keep building ships for the war with CA.
apparently, if a corp now wants to join SA they have to put their ships and clones on the line and stand up against CA, which means they are asking people to lose ships and possibly implants if podded... and in return they get nothing.
There is nothing wrong with this aproach if thats what SA does, why should they give anyone anything they havent fougth for it?
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