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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:05:00 -
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Will you fly with Ben Freegate?
Last week Horatio Starkiller of Oracle brought forward serious allegations regarding PIE flying with a known pirate Ben Freegate (a member of our allies BlackSheep/Amarria Auxillia).
Horatio highlighted the following example of Freegate's piracy: Deception at Obe
Once this was highlighted PIE and our friends in Amarria Auxillia took quick action and Ben Freegate was evicted from the pro-Amarr, anti-terrorist coalition.
Now however we learn that so called 'freedom-fighters' are flying with Mr. Freegate (not Oracle pilots I hasten to add) as detailed in a report by Khaldorn Murino HERE
So my question is, now that Mr Freegate is apparently fighting on the Minmatar freedom fighter side are we likely to see him in terrorists fleets with Oracle members?
A yes or no would suffice!
It would also be nice to get an official Peoples Republic of Minmatar (PRM) and Friends of Matar (FoM) take on this...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:05:00 -
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Will you fly with Ben Freegate?
Last week Horatio Starkiller of Oracle brought forward serious allegations regarding PIE flying with a known pirate Ben Freegate (a member of our allies BlackSheep/Amarria Auxillia).
Horatio highlighted the following example of Freegate's piracy: Deception at Obe
Once this was highlighted PIE and our friends in Amarria Auxillia took quick action and Ben Freegate was evicted from the pro-Amarr, anti-terrorist coalition.
Now however we learn that so called 'freedom-fighters' are flying with Mr. Freegate (not Oracle pilots I hasten to add) as detailed in a report by Khaldorn Murino HERE
So my question is, now that Mr Freegate is apparently fighting on the Minmatar freedom fighter side are we likely to see him in terrorists fleets with Oracle members?
A yes or no would suffice!
It would also be nice to get an official Peoples Republic of Minmatar (PRM) and Friends of Matar (FoM) take on this...
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:25:00 -
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Each Oracle member has their own personal opinions Hardin we do allow freedom of speech, which should be pretty obvious as frequently step over the line, but I am loud mouth and arrogant (especially when angry)and freely admit it. (Big Flaw on my part, speech first think later)
Personally I won't be flying in a 'gang' with Ben Freegate, although you should note that their is nothing we can do to stop him flying with other gangs that may be trying to do the same thing we are and possibly put Ben Freegate at same gate as us or in similar combat situations. -----------
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:25:00 -
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Each Oracle member has their own personal opinions Hardin we do allow freedom of speech, which should be pretty obvious as frequently step over the line, but I am loud mouth and arrogant (especially when angry)and freely admit it. (Big Flaw on my part, speech first think later)
Personally I won't be flying in a 'gang' with Ben Freegate, although you should note that their is nothing we can do to stop him flying with other gangs that may be trying to do the same thing we are and possibly put Ben Freegate at same gate as us or in similar combat situations. -----------
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:32:00 -
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Good answer...
I wonder if PRM and FoM will be as reticent as you to work with such a pilot...
But you are right - it is very hard to keep gangs 'clean' at all times. Or to know the history of individual pilots.
It is something we all should remember in future before we getting excited and start making accusations - something which I am as guilty of as anyone 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:32:00 -
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Good answer...
I wonder if PRM and FoM will be as reticent as you to work with such a pilot...
But you are right - it is very hard to keep gangs 'clean' at all times. Or to know the history of individual pilots.
It is something we all should remember in future before we getting excited and start making accusations - something which I am as guilty of as anyone 
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Ben Freegate
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:43:00 -
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Once again Hardin, I was not 'ejected' or 'evicted' from Blacksheep. I left on my own accord, to the dismay of AA and PIE I might add.
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Ben Freegate
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:43:00 -
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Once again Hardin, I was not 'ejected' or 'evicted' from Blacksheep. I left on my own accord, to the dismay of AA and PIE I might add.
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Maggot
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:46:00 -
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A simple request Mr Hardin, and one I can answer very easily.
FoM welcomes all those who wish to fight against Slavery, whatever their background.
I judge each man and woman on their current actions. The past is no indicator to future performance.
Maggot.
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Maggot
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:46:00 -
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A simple request Mr Hardin, and one I can answer very easily.
FoM welcomes all those who wish to fight against Slavery, whatever their background.
I judge each man and woman on their current actions. The past is no indicator to future performance.
Maggot.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ben Freegate Once again Hardin, I was not 'ejected' or 'evicted' from Blacksheep. I left on my own accord, to the dismay of AA and PIE I might add.
Whatever!
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ben Freegate Once again Hardin, I was not 'ejected' or 'evicted' from Blacksheep. I left on my own accord, to the dismay of AA and PIE I might add.
Whatever!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 27/07/2004 14:11:45 Edited by: zoolkhan on 27/07/2004 14:09:15
Originally by: Hardin
Now however we learn that so called 'freedom-fighters' are flying with Mr. Freegate (not Oracle pilots I hasten to add)
You should have directed this question to us in the first place. oracle is oracle FoM is FoM - and there are no close relations bewteen us. (which is bad as last weekends experiences showed to us...)
An organisation who worked close with pirates together securing a 0.0 space against the own people, even though the fight gainst slavery had to suffer badly from lack of mineral supply... is maybe not the right address for this question or to judge the FoM, dont you think Hardin?
I think oracle would not take your bait and start to attack us openly for giving a single ex-pirate a second chance.
Stop tring to splinter us, we are splintered enough already, more is hardly possible.
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So my question is, now that Mr Freegate is apparently fighting on the Minmatar freedom fighter side are we likely to see him in terrorists fleets with Oracle members?
My question is, who cares? As long he flies for us, he does not harm civillians. Thats a far better resocialisation programm than your slavefarms.
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It would also be nice to get an official Peoples Republic of Minmatar (PRM) and Friends of Matar (FoM) take on this...
Not your business target.
The PRM will deal with it internally if they think it would become necessary.
They certainly dont start any actions on your request no matter how you may camourflage the request.
whowever judges now - should better have an absolutely innocent past..
For official statement of FOM refer to maggots reply.
Now, try ruling your own corp/alliances/gold club.
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 27/07/2004 14:11:45 Edited by: zoolkhan on 27/07/2004 14:09:15
Originally by: Hardin
Now however we learn that so called 'freedom-fighters' are flying with Mr. Freegate (not Oracle pilots I hasten to add)
You should have directed this question to us in the first place. oracle is oracle FoM is FoM - and there are no close relations bewteen us. (which is bad as last weekends experiences showed to us...)
An organisation who worked close with pirates together securing a 0.0 space against the own people, even though the fight gainst slavery had to suffer badly from lack of mineral supply... is maybe not the right address for this question or to judge the FoM, dont you think Hardin?
I think oracle would not take your bait and start to attack us openly for giving a single ex-pirate a second chance.
Stop tring to splinter us, we are splintered enough already, more is hardly possible.
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So my question is, now that Mr Freegate is apparently fighting on the Minmatar freedom fighter side are we likely to see him in terrorists fleets with Oracle members?
My question is, who cares? As long he flies for us, he does not harm civillians. Thats a far better resocialisation programm than your slavefarms.
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It would also be nice to get an official Peoples Republic of Minmatar (PRM) and Friends of Matar (FoM) take on this...
Not your business target.
The PRM will deal with it internally if they think it would become necessary.
They certainly dont start any actions on your request no matter how you may camourflage the request.
whowever judges now - should better have an absolutely innocent past..
For official statement of FOM refer to maggots reply.
Now, try ruling your own corp/alliances/gold club.
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:16:00 -
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Indeed I have not judged or attacked the FoM for accepting Ben Freegate into their ranks, FoM are worthy allies. -----------
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:16:00 -
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Indeed I have not judged or attacked the FoM for accepting Ben Freegate into their ranks, FoM are worthy allies. -----------
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/07/2004 14:30:56
Originally by: Horatio Starkiller Indeed I have not judged or attacked the FoM for accepting Ben Freegate into their ranks, FoM are worthy allies.
Employing a self-confessed pirate who runs rather than accepting his just desserts doesn't sound very worthy to me.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/07/2004 14:30:56
Originally by: Horatio Starkiller Indeed I have not judged or attacked the FoM for accepting Ben Freegate into their ranks, FoM are worthy allies.
Employing a self-confessed pirate who runs rather than accepting his just desserts doesn't sound very worthy to me.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/07/2004 14:38:42 From another thread...
Quote: Edited by: Horatio Starkiller on 19/07/2004 14:30:38 ...Anyway, back to the topic... Ben Freegate = Pirate = Member of AA = Ally of PIE. Even my simply mind can understand that.
Do I need to amend Horatio's equation to take into account the changed circumstances?
(Directed more at Freelance rather than Oracle)
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/07/2004 14:38:42 From another thread...
Quote: Edited by: Horatio Starkiller on 19/07/2004 14:30:38 ...Anyway, back to the topic... Ben Freegate = Pirate = Member of AA = Ally of PIE. Even my simply mind can understand that.
Do I need to amend Horatio's equation to take into account the changed circumstances?
(Directed more at Freelance rather than Oracle)
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:38:00 -
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Leave them be Rodj 
No one is perfect. If they want to fly with Mr Freegate in their ranks then they are perfectly entitled to. After all it yet again clearly demonstrates the difference between the honourable Amarr and the sneaky terrorists who will draw no lines in their determination to destroy our holy way of life.
If they can kill our innocent women and children in their raids surely the inclusion of a pilot like Freegate in their ranks should not be a surprise.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:38:00 -
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Leave them be Rodj 
No one is perfect. If they want to fly with Mr Freegate in their ranks then they are perfectly entitled to. After all it yet again clearly demonstrates the difference between the honourable Amarr and the sneaky terrorists who will draw no lines in their determination to destroy our holy way of life.
If they can kill our innocent women and children in their raids surely the inclusion of a pilot like Freegate in their ranks should not be a surprise.
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Employing a self-confessed pirate who runs rather than accepting his just desserts doesn't sound very worthy to me.
I'd love to pull a quote from one of your other galnet transmissions but my software is buggy, but don't you claim that everyone is re-deemable*? Or is this only the case if it's by begging at your false gods feet.
*Frosty is or in the process of being re-deemed in your eyes, but to us he's fallen down a very dark pit. -----------
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Employing a self-confessed pirate who runs rather than accepting his just desserts doesn't sound very worthy to me.
I'd love to pull a quote from one of your other galnet transmissions but my software is buggy, but don't you claim that everyone is re-deemable*? Or is this only the case if it's by begging at your false gods feet.
*Frosty is or in the process of being re-deemed in your eyes, but to us he's fallen down a very dark pit. -----------
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/07/2004 14:57:44 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/07/2004 14:50:58
Originally by: Horatio Starkiller
Originally by: Rodj Blake Employing a self-confessed pirate who runs rather than accepting his just desserts doesn't sound very worthy to me.
I'd love to pull a quote from one of your other galnet transmissions but my software is buggy, but don't you claim that everyone is re-deemable*? Or is this only the case if it's by begging at your false gods feet.
*Frosty is or in the process of being re-deemed in your eyes, but to us he's fallen down a very dark pit.
I do believe in redemption, but it could be argued that Ben Freegate passed up on his opportunity when he refused to accept his punishment (he has been been very quick to point out that he left AMAX before he was ejected).
My main concern is the apparent moral inconsistencies being displayed by some of your terrorist allies, firstly condemning Ben for his piratical actions, and then accepting him into their ranks without him even apologising for those acts.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/07/2004 14:57:44 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/07/2004 14:50:58
Originally by: Horatio Starkiller
Originally by: Rodj Blake Employing a self-confessed pirate who runs rather than accepting his just desserts doesn't sound very worthy to me.
I'd love to pull a quote from one of your other galnet transmissions but my software is buggy, but don't you claim that everyone is re-deemable*? Or is this only the case if it's by begging at your false gods feet.
*Frosty is or in the process of being re-deemed in your eyes, but to us he's fallen down a very dark pit.
I do believe in redemption, but it could be argued that Ben Freegate passed up on his opportunity when he refused to accept his punishment (he has been been very quick to point out that he left AMAX before he was ejected).
My main concern is the apparent moral inconsistencies being displayed by some of your terrorist allies, firstly condemning Ben for his piratical actions, and then accepting him into their ranks without him even apologising for those acts.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 27/07/2004 14:51:13
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Do I need to amend Horatio's equation to take into account the changed circumstances?
(Directed more at Freelance rather than Oracle)
What are you trying to tell me? That horatio is a free individual with an own opinion?
Yes. this is the case. It is not horatios business that we gave a pirate the chance to better himself as well as it is not yours.
Blacksheep was a troop of PIE-payed mercenaries as we all know, and i am surprised the leave of ben freegate from AA - hit you so hard that you seem to have trouble to get over it.. just as if it would be an ex-pie-member and your mentor/son or wife or soemthing..
Stop whining man, fit your ship..
And dont be surprised if oracle and FoM overcom this in order to overcome you.
Our priorities are quite clear.
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 27/07/2004 14:51:13
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Do I need to amend Horatio's equation to take into account the changed circumstances?
(Directed more at Freelance rather than Oracle)
What are you trying to tell me? That horatio is a free individual with an own opinion?
Yes. this is the case. It is not horatios business that we gave a pirate the chance to better himself as well as it is not yours.
Blacksheep was a troop of PIE-payed mercenaries as we all know, and i am surprised the leave of ben freegate from AA - hit you so hard that you seem to have trouble to get over it.. just as if it would be an ex-pie-member and your mentor/son or wife or soemthing..
Stop whining man, fit your ship..
And dont be surprised if oracle and FoM overcom this in order to overcome you.
Our priorities are quite clear.
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Horatio Starkiller on 27/07/2004 14:58:09 it could be argued this... it could be argued that...
I thought we were 'freedom fighters' and 'defenders of the empire'
/me takes a sip of whiskey after spurting out those last words
not lawyers.
edit: and zool is right it's not my business, I answered your question be satisfied with my answer. -----------
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Horatio Starkiller on 27/07/2004 14:58:09 it could be argued this... it could be argued that...
I thought we were 'freedom fighters' and 'defenders of the empire'
/me takes a sip of whiskey after spurting out those last words
not lawyers.
edit: and zool is right it's not my business, I answered your question be satisfied with my answer. -----------
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Starkiller I thought we were 'freedom fighters' and 'defenders of the empire'
++zoolkhan gives horatio the 'high five' and smiles ++
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Starkiller I thought we were 'freedom fighters' and 'defenders of the empire'
++zoolkhan gives horatio the 'high five' and smiles ++
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:57:00 -
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words are for the weak. I am sure that over the comming weeks Bens loyalties will be proved either way, enough of this petty bickering...... to war! 
Instas??
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Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:57:00 -
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words are for the weak. I am sure that over the comming weeks Bens loyalties will be proved either way, enough of this petty bickering...... to war! 
Instas??
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
Blacksheep was a troop of PIE-payed mercenaries as we all know.
I am afraid we don't all know Zoolkhan. I have said it before and I will state it again until it gets in those thick Minnie skulls. PIE NEVER paid BlackSheep/Amarria Auxillia - EVER.
For one thing we aint rich enough to pay and secondly it is not something we would do anyway - unlike some Minnies who have hired known Mercs to attack CVA corps.
I am afraid all you are hearing Zool is the disgruntled rumblings of a couple of ex-Blacksheep members out to blacken our name! Please do not keep bringing this tired and INCORRECT slur here...
I would have thought you more intelligent than to believe it!
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
Blacksheep was a troop of PIE-payed mercenaries as we all know.
I am afraid we don't all know Zoolkhan. I have said it before and I will state it again until it gets in those thick Minnie skulls. PIE NEVER paid BlackSheep/Amarria Auxillia - EVER.
For one thing we aint rich enough to pay and secondly it is not something we would do anyway - unlike some Minnies who have hired known Mercs to attack CVA corps.
I am afraid all you are hearing Zool is the disgruntled rumblings of a couple of ex-Blacksheep members out to blacken our name! Please do not keep bringing this tired and INCORRECT slur here...
I would have thought you more intelligent than to believe it!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
Originally by: zoolkhan
Blacksheep was a troop of PIE-payed mercenaries as we all know.
I have said it before and I will state it again until it gets in those thick Minnie skulls. PIE NEVER paid BlackSheep/Amarria Auxillia - EVER.
[...cutted some whitenoise..]
I would have thought you more intelligent than to believe it!
Are we upset? Did i hit one of the countless weak points in one of those gold bladed paper apocs :-)
(rusty metal is still better to keep airpressure than bladegold)
To say it with eddies words... lets go to war.
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
Originally by: zoolkhan
Blacksheep was a troop of PIE-payed mercenaries as we all know.
I have said it before and I will state it again until it gets in those thick Minnie skulls. PIE NEVER paid BlackSheep/Amarria Auxillia - EVER.
[...cutted some whitenoise..]
I would have thought you more intelligent than to believe it!
Are we upset? Did i hit one of the countless weak points in one of those gold bladed paper apocs :-)
(rusty metal is still better to keep airpressure than bladegold)
To say it with eddies words... lets go to war.
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:08:00 -
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Indeed we go to war everynight Zoolkhan as you know 
However in my role as PIE's information officer I am not going to let such blatant untruths go unchallenged...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:08:00 -
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Indeed we go to war everynight Zoolkhan as you know 
However in my role as PIE's information officer I am not going to let such blatant untruths go unchallenged...
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Starkiller Edited by: Horatio Starkiller on 27/07/2004 14:58:09 it could be argued this... it could be argued that...
I thought we were 'freedom fighters' and 'defenders of the empire'
/me takes a sip of whiskey after spurting out those last words
not lawyers.
edit: and zool is right it's not my business, I answered your question be satisfied with my answer.
If only the Minmatar rebels had gone to the Imperial courts to attempt to secure their freedom rather than resorting to violence, a lot of unpleasantness could have been avoided.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Starkiller Edited by: Horatio Starkiller on 27/07/2004 14:58:09 it could be argued this... it could be argued that...
I thought we were 'freedom fighters' and 'defenders of the empire'
/me takes a sip of whiskey after spurting out those last words
not lawyers.
edit: and zool is right it's not my business, I answered your question be satisfied with my answer.
If only the Minmatar rebels had gone to the Imperial courts to attempt to secure their freedom rather than resorting to violence, a lot of unpleasantness could have been avoided.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Makkar on 27/07/2004 15:15:00
Originally by: Hardin I am afraid we don't all know Zoolkhan. I have said it before and I will state it again until it gets in those thick Minnie skulls. PIE NEVER paid BlackSheep/Amarria Auxillia - EVER.
It wouldn't really matter if you did pay AMAX/Blacksheep, Hardin. It's not for us to decide how you wish to wage war, after all. If you hire mercenaries, then so be it. You also do your own fighting, and are far better at it than AMAX could ever dream of being. I really don't see what all that fuss was about.
As for fighting alongside Ben Freegate, I don't see why not. We're terrorists, after all. We might as well play the part and side with pirates, don't you think? I'm sure I could call on a few other more nefarious contacts of my personal aquaintance to throw at CVA, but hey, I kind of like things the way they are. Almost civil, wouldn't you say?
Oh and Zool... The CA thing? Please, get over it. We have. You say things like that, and in the same post you wonder why we're not fighting shoulder to shoulder. If you can accept a confessed pirate into your ranks, surely you can let bygones be bygones with a tribe that never were pirates in the first instance?
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Makkar on 27/07/2004 15:15:00
Originally by: Hardin I am afraid we don't all know Zoolkhan. I have said it before and I will state it again until it gets in those thick Minnie skulls. PIE NEVER paid BlackSheep/Amarria Auxillia - EVER.
It wouldn't really matter if you did pay AMAX/Blacksheep, Hardin. It's not for us to decide how you wish to wage war, after all. If you hire mercenaries, then so be it. You also do your own fighting, and are far better at it than AMAX could ever dream of being. I really don't see what all that fuss was about.
As for fighting alongside Ben Freegate, I don't see why not. We're terrorists, after all. We might as well play the part and side with pirates, don't you think? I'm sure I could call on a few other more nefarious contacts of my personal aquaintance to throw at CVA, but hey, I kind of like things the way they are. Almost civil, wouldn't you say?
Oh and Zool... The CA thing? Please, get over it. We have. You say things like that, and in the same post you wonder why we're not fighting shoulder to shoulder. If you can accept a confessed pirate into your ranks, surely you can let bygones be bygones with a tribe that never were pirates in the first instance?
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 27/07/2004 15:41:45 Edited by: zoolkhan on 27/07/2004 15:24:24
Originally by: Makkar Oh and Zool... The CA thing? Please, get over it. We have. You say things like that, and in the same post you wonder why we're not fighting shoulder to shoulder.
I didnt wonder why - i rather pointed out that this fact is a shame.
Just like maggot posted earlier regarding ben we should be judging ppl by their actions.
Some members within oracle earned my respect and helped to correct my view on oracle and to "overcome" (Al, Squal, Horatio etc)
Be ensured, the process of overcoming has already been kicked off 
** minmatar GROUP HUG !** 
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 27/07/2004 15:41:45 Edited by: zoolkhan on 27/07/2004 15:24:24
Originally by: Makkar Oh and Zool... The CA thing? Please, get over it. We have. You say things like that, and in the same post you wonder why we're not fighting shoulder to shoulder.
I didnt wonder why - i rather pointed out that this fact is a shame.
Just like maggot posted earlier regarding ben we should be judging ppl by their actions.
Some members within oracle earned my respect and helped to correct my view on oracle and to "overcome" (Al, Squal, Horatio etc)
Be ensured, the process of overcoming has already been kicked off 
** minmatar GROUP HUG !** 
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 27/07/2004 15:26:10
Edit: To Makkar Good point - for a terrorist 
Edit: To Zoolkhan Can we see a Minmatar goup hug now? 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 27/07/2004 15:26:10
Edit: To Makkar Good point - for a terrorist 
Edit: To Zoolkhan Can we see a Minmatar goup hug now? 
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake My main concern is the apparent moral inconsistencies being displayed by some of your terrorist allies, firstly condemning Ben for his piratical actions, and then accepting him into their ranks without him even apologising for those acts.
Did I actually condemn him or just point out what he did for the galnet to see? -----------
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:26:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Rodj Blake My main concern is the apparent moral inconsistencies being displayed by some of your terrorist allies, firstly condemning Ben for his piratical actions, and then accepting him into their ranks without him even apologising for those acts.
Did I actually condemn him or just point out what he did for the galnet to see? -----------
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:35:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/07/2004 15:38:33
Originally by: Horatio Starkiller
Originally by: Rodj Blake My main concern is the apparent moral inconsistencies being displayed by some of your terrorist allies, firstly condemning Ben for his piratical actions, and then accepting him into their ranks without him even apologising for those acts.
Did I actually condemn him or just point out what he did for the galnet to see?
There's often a pretty fine line between the two. Too fine for some one who wants everyone to keep out the lawyers, I'd say.
I'd say that the difference between pointing out actions so that your friends can condemn them, and condemning those actions yourself is non-existent.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:35:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/07/2004 15:38:33
Originally by: Horatio Starkiller
Originally by: Rodj Blake My main concern is the apparent moral inconsistencies being displayed by some of your terrorist allies, firstly condemning Ben for his piratical actions, and then accepting him into their ranks without him even apologising for those acts.
Did I actually condemn him or just point out what he did for the galnet to see?
There's often a pretty fine line between the two. Too fine for some one who wants everyone to keep out the lawyers, I'd say.
I'd say that the difference between pointing out actions so that your friends can condemn them, and condemning those actions yourself is non-existent.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:46:00 -
[53]
Oh for the love of... Enough already. The question has been answered. The answer is "yes". Any more mincing of words serves no purpose at all.
We're not going to convince the Amarrians they're wrong. They're not going ot convince us they're right. Let's just cut out the bulldrek and kill each other, in space, ship to ship, like civilised human beings.
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.27 15:46:00 -
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Oh for the love of... Enough already. The question has been answered. The answer is "yes". Any more mincing of words serves no purpose at all.
We're not going to convince the Amarrians they're wrong. They're not going ot convince us they're right. Let's just cut out the bulldrek and kill each other, in space, ship to ship, like civilised human beings.
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2004.07.27 23:16:00 -
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Amen.
Enough of the chatter and on with the killing 
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2004.07.27 23:16:00 -
[56]
Amen.
Enough of the chatter and on with the killing 
www.freetribes.net |

Sajuuk Cor
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Posted - 2004.07.28 08:06:00 -
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Rodj Blake: "self-confessed pirate who runs rather than accepting his just desserts doesn't sound very worthy to me."
Sounds like the few CVA pilots we see running around near Misaba periodically.
Be silent. 
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Sajuuk Cor
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Posted - 2004.07.28 08:06:00 -
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Rodj Blake: "self-confessed pirate who runs rather than accepting his just desserts doesn't sound very worthy to me."
Sounds like the few CVA pilots we see running around near Misaba periodically.
Be silent. 
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sajuuk Cor Rodj Blake: "self-confessed pirate who runs rather than accepting his just desserts doesn't sound very worthy to me."
Sounds like the few CVA pilots we see running around near Misaba periodically.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. The CVA does from time to time engage in anti-piracy operations in the vicinity of Misaba. Innocent traders and miners have nothing to fear, as we are dedicated to keeping the spacelanes open. Pirates on the other hand, will be dealt with swiftly and violently.
Quote: Be silent. 
No.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:37:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Sajuuk Cor Rodj Blake: "self-confessed pirate who runs rather than accepting his just desserts doesn't sound very worthy to me."
Sounds like the few CVA pilots we see running around near Misaba periodically.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. The CVA does from time to time engage in anti-piracy operations in the vicinity of Misaba. Innocent traders and miners have nothing to fear, as we are dedicated to keeping the spacelanes open. Pirates on the other hand, will be dealt with swiftly and violently.
Quote: Be silent. 
No.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Sajuuk Cor
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:16:00 -
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My point.. you whine about a pilot running from his just desserts.
The CVA pilots i've seen around Misaba recently, have all run to avoid combat.
Quite surprising, since the CVA claims to be an anti-pirate/anti-terrorist organization...and you consider all of SC to be pirates/terrorists.
Were the pilots going to kill me from their safe spots??
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Sajuuk Cor
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:16:00 -
[62]
My point.. you whine about a pilot running from his just desserts.
The CVA pilots i've seen around Misaba recently, have all run to avoid combat.
Quite surprising, since the CVA claims to be an anti-pirate/anti-terrorist organization...and you consider all of SC to be pirates/terrorists.
Were the pilots going to kill me from their safe spots??
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Vendris
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:22:00 -
[63]
Now now. As far as I've seen, PIE have always claimed to be anti pirate as much as they are anti minmatar. I don't recall them ever saying they're much good at it.
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Vendris
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:22:00 -
[64]
Now now. As far as I've seen, PIE have always claimed to be anti pirate as much as they are anti minmatar. I don't recall them ever saying they're much good at it.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:23:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Sajuuk Cor My point.. you whine about a pilot running from his just desserts.
The CVA pilots i've seen around Misaba recently, have all run to avoid combat.
Quite surprising, since the CVA claims to be an anti-pirate/anti-terrorist organization...and you consider all of SC to be pirates/terrorists.
Were the pilots going to kill me from their safe spots??
And what exactly do the CVA's activities around Misaba have to do with Ben Freegate flying in an Oracle gang?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:23:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Sajuuk Cor My point.. you whine about a pilot running from his just desserts.
The CVA pilots i've seen around Misaba recently, have all run to avoid combat.
Quite surprising, since the CVA claims to be an anti-pirate/anti-terrorist organization...and you consider all of SC to be pirates/terrorists.
Were the pilots going to kill me from their safe spots??
And what exactly do the CVA's activities around Misaba have to do with Ben Freegate flying in an Oracle gang?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:36:00 -
[67]
Rodj, to my knowledge, Ben Freegate has never been in an Oracle gang. The only corp Oracle is likely to be ganged with on combat ops (for various reasons) is TPFM.
The original question has been answered. Twice, by myself alone. Make this a third and final answer; Yes, we would fight alongside Ben Freegate. We're Freedom Fighters - Whatever moral objection you may have to us fighting alongside self confessed pirates in the cause of freedom, you may rest assured we do not share.
ISD Please lock this thread, it's going way off topic.
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:36:00 -
[68]
Rodj, to my knowledge, Ben Freegate has never been in an Oracle gang. The only corp Oracle is likely to be ganged with on combat ops (for various reasons) is TPFM.
The original question has been answered. Twice, by myself alone. Make this a third and final answer; Yes, we would fight alongside Ben Freegate. We're Freedom Fighters - Whatever moral objection you may have to us fighting alongside self confessed pirates in the cause of freedom, you may rest assured we do not share.
ISD Please lock this thread, it's going way off topic.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:39:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 28/07/2004 14:43:27 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 28/07/2004 14:42:12
Originally by: Makkar Rodj, to my knowledge, Ben Freegate has never been in an Oracle gang. The only corp Oracle is likely to be ganged with on combat ops (for various reasons) is TPFM.
The original question has been answered. Twice, by myself alone. Make this a third and final answer; Yes, we would fight alongside Ben Freegate. We're Freedom Fighters - Whatever moral objection you may have to us fighting alongside self confessed pirates in the cause of freedom, you may rest assured we do not share.
ISD Please lock this thread, it's going way off topic.
Makkar, I wasn't trying to score points, merely pointing out that the discussion was deviating from the original question of "would Oracle and Ben Freegate fly together in the same gang?", which I accept you had already answered.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 28/07/2004 14:43:27 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 28/07/2004 14:42:12
Originally by: Makkar Rodj, to my knowledge, Ben Freegate has never been in an Oracle gang. The only corp Oracle is likely to be ganged with on combat ops (for various reasons) is TPFM.
The original question has been answered. Twice, by myself alone. Make this a third and final answer; Yes, we would fight alongside Ben Freegate. We're Freedom Fighters - Whatever moral objection you may have to us fighting alongside self confessed pirates in the cause of freedom, you may rest assured we do not share.
ISD Please lock this thread, it's going way off topic.
Makkar, I wasn't trying to score points, merely pointing out that the discussion was deviating from the original question of "would Oracle and Ben Freegate fly together in the same gang?", which I accept you had already answered.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:54:00 -
[71]
Then why in hell don't you just shut up? Is there someone with a gun to your head demanding that you must get the last post in?
The thread's dead. Question answered. It's finished. Done, dusted, and a exhausted. Let it go, man... Go find a hobby...
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:54:00 -
[72]
Then why in hell don't you just shut up? Is there someone with a gun to your head demanding that you must get the last post in?
The thread's dead. Question answered. It's finished. Done, dusted, and a exhausted. Let it go, man... Go find a hobby...
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:58:00 -
[73]
I haven't stopped posting as yet because people keep responding to my posts 
This is my last post on this thread, however.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:58:00 -
[74]
I haven't stopped posting as yet because people keep responding to my posts 
This is my last post on this thread, however.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |

Ben Freegate
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Posted - 2004.07.28 15:09:00 -
[75]
Rodj, please get off my crotch, I have to scratch it.
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Ben Freegate
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Posted - 2004.07.28 15:09:00 -
[76]
Rodj, please get off my crotch, I have to scratch it.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:13:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Vendris Now now. As far as I've seen, PIE have always claimed to be anti pirate as much as they are anti minmatar. I don't recall them ever saying they're much good at it.
Nope, we like to let our results speak for themselves.
This thread is dead by the by.
Oh and nice one Ben. Quite fitting. ----------------------------------------------
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:13:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Vendris Now now. As far as I've seen, PIE have always claimed to be anti pirate as much as they are anti minmatar. I don't recall them ever saying they're much good at it.
Nope, we like to let our results speak for themselves.
This thread is dead by the by.
Oh and nice one Ben. Quite fitting. ----------------------------------------------
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Russo
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:56:00 -
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I will say it once and once only. Blacksheep, and our current corp, have never been given any money for their service to the Empire and God. Any logs suggesting so were either edited to make it seem as such, or blatant lies. We stand on our own two feet, we just happen to stand with the CVA. I think you apes are just upset at the constant slaughter. Playing dirty in battle doesnt even help, so now you are playing dirty on the galnet. Pft....pathetic. Russo - CEO Amarria Auxilia Your friendly neighborhood badass
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Russo
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:56:00 -
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I will say it once and once only. Blacksheep, and our current corp, have never been given any money for their service to the Empire and God. Any logs suggesting so were either edited to make it seem as such, or blatant lies. We stand on our own two feet, we just happen to stand with the CVA. I think you apes are just upset at the constant slaughter. Playing dirty in battle doesnt even help, so now you are playing dirty on the galnet. Pft....pathetic. Russo - CEO Amarria Auxilia Your friendly neighborhood badass
'Peace is our profession. Mass murder is just a hobby.' |

Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Makkar on 28/07/2004 18:09:44 Oh I give up... Russo, I've said this time and time again in this thread. We really don't care if you received money or not. It doesn't matter to anyone but you and Ben Freegate, it seems, and continuing the argument in this thread serves no purpose.
Oddly enough, I'm considering changing our standpoint on Ben Freegate fighting alongside Oracle, but not on grounds of piracy. It's because apparently he can't stop trolling.
Just quit it, the pair of you. It's getting old, fast.
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Makkar on 28/07/2004 18:09:44 Oh I give up... Russo, I've said this time and time again in this thread. We really don't care if you received money or not. It doesn't matter to anyone but you and Ben Freegate, it seems, and continuing the argument in this thread serves no purpose.
Oddly enough, I'm considering changing our standpoint on Ben Freegate fighting alongside Oracle, but not on grounds of piracy. It's because apparently he can't stop trolling.
Just quit it, the pair of you. It's getting old, fast.
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Ben Freegate
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Posted - 2004.07.28 20:43:00 -
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I cant stop trolling? Im sorry, last time I checked I had one comment in this thread. Im just a wee bit tired of being called a liar and seeing these pointless conversations. I give my side of the story and Im told its not true and to stop spreading lies. I produce logs and Im called a liar. I havnt been able to log onto galnet without seeing my name being brought up in these conversations yet im the troll? The fact is both sides are trying to use this situation to their advantage. First it was oracle who brought up the fact that "a known pirate" was flying with Pie. Go take a look at that thread and see how fast PIE moves in to defend me. Now that I am flying with Fu2 its PIE's turn to say "so you're going to fly with a pirate?". Im done with this crap.
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Ben Freegate
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Posted - 2004.07.28 20:43:00 -
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I cant stop trolling? Im sorry, last time I checked I had one comment in this thread. Im just a wee bit tired of being called a liar and seeing these pointless conversations. I give my side of the story and Im told its not true and to stop spreading lies. I produce logs and Im called a liar. I havnt been able to log onto galnet without seeing my name being brought up in these conversations yet im the troll? The fact is both sides are trying to use this situation to their advantage. First it was oracle who brought up the fact that "a known pirate" was flying with Pie. Go take a look at that thread and see how fast PIE moves in to defend me. Now that I am flying with Fu2 its PIE's turn to say "so you're going to fly with a pirate?". Im done with this crap.
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2004.07.29 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Ph0enix on 29/07/2004 23:14:55
Originally by: Ben Freegate Rodj, please get off my crotch, I have to scratch it.

Trust Russo to try and have the last word.
My 2isk is on this reaching page 4 
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2004.07.29 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Ph0enix on 29/07/2004 23:14:55
Originally by: Ben Freegate Rodj, please get off my crotch, I have to scratch it.

Trust Russo to try and have the last word.
My 2isk is on this reaching page 4 
www.freetribes.net |

Archbishop
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Posted - 2004.07.29 23:30:00 -
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Quote: " First it was oracle who brought up the fact that "a known pirate" was flying with Pie. Go take a look at that thread and see how fast PIE moves in to defend me. Now that I am flying with Fu2 its PIE's turn to say "so you're going to fly with a pirate?". "
A known pirate was never flying with PIE. AA are PIE allies but we don't control thier recruiting. When your crimes against humanity came to light they were dealt with swiftly by your former friends at AA. Friends you shamed with your criminal act. PIE did not defend you traitor don't delude yourself. PIE was defending itself aginst completely baseless claims. It also indicated that the matter would be investigated by AA (since PIE has nothing to do with AA recruiting) and AA would resolve it. They did resolve it by ordering your punishment which you avoided by fleeing. Thus PIE never defended you we defended our own honor and that honor is still intact. As is the honor of Amarria Auxilla in ordering your punishment for the crimes you committed. They retained honor as well. Honor. A word you seemingly know little of as you admit you hire yourself out for money like some kind of Gallante pleasure hub employee.
You? Well we all know what you did.
Have you apologized for the senseless massacre of the civilian transports? No. Have you apologized for bringing this onto your one time corpmates at AA? No. Have you renounced piracy publically? No.
Yet you, with a history of piracy and criminal behavior now join another corp. Your last corp took action to deal with your fall from grace. What will your new corp do? Will the allies of your new corp knowingly fly with a known pirate? From the responses Oracle has retained some honor and said no (individually). That is encouraging.
For in war all we have is Honor and Disgrace.
Archbishop PIE CORPORATION
VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER |

Archbishop
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Posted - 2004.07.29 23:30:00 -
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Quote: " First it was oracle who brought up the fact that "a known pirate" was flying with Pie. Go take a look at that thread and see how fast PIE moves in to defend me. Now that I am flying with Fu2 its PIE's turn to say "so you're going to fly with a pirate?". "
A known pirate was never flying with PIE. AA are PIE allies but we don't control thier recruiting. When your crimes against humanity came to light they were dealt with swiftly by your former friends at AA. Friends you shamed with your criminal act. PIE did not defend you traitor don't delude yourself. PIE was defending itself aginst completely baseless claims. It also indicated that the matter would be investigated by AA (since PIE has nothing to do with AA recruiting) and AA would resolve it. They did resolve it by ordering your punishment which you avoided by fleeing. Thus PIE never defended you we defended our own honor and that honor is still intact. As is the honor of Amarria Auxilla in ordering your punishment for the crimes you committed. They retained honor as well. Honor. A word you seemingly know little of as you admit you hire yourself out for money like some kind of Gallante pleasure hub employee.
You? Well we all know what you did.
Have you apologized for the senseless massacre of the civilian transports? No. Have you apologized for bringing this onto your one time corpmates at AA? No. Have you renounced piracy publically? No.
Yet you, with a history of piracy and criminal behavior now join another corp. Your last corp took action to deal with your fall from grace. What will your new corp do? Will the allies of your new corp knowingly fly with a known pirate? From the responses Oracle has retained some honor and said no (individually). That is encouraging.
For in war all we have is Honor and Disgrace.
Archbishop PIE CORPORATION
VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER |

zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 30/07/2004 08:11:14 Edited by: zoolkhan on 30/07/2004 08:10:50
Originally by: Ben Freegate I cant stop trolling? Im sorry, last time I checked I had one comment in this thread.
Hay ben, take it easy. It is just makkar. Nobody likes his attack everybody who moves, and those who dont move too-forum-style and your just he latest victim, one of many.
Russo though.. he is known as a troll. And nobody should be suprised if he trolls around a bit... in the meanwhile ive learned that both, makkar and also russo have also their good sides.
so.. take it easy buddy :o)
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.07.30 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 30/07/2004 08:11:14 Edited by: zoolkhan on 30/07/2004 08:10:50
Originally by: Ben Freegate I cant stop trolling? Im sorry, last time I checked I had one comment in this thread.
Hay ben, take it easy. It is just makkar. Nobody likes his attack everybody who moves, and those who dont move too-forum-style and your just he latest victim, one of many.
Russo though.. he is known as a troll. And nobody should be suprised if he trolls around a bit... in the meanwhile ive learned that both, makkar and also russo have also their good sides.
so.. take it easy buddy :o)
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Dragon Ramirez
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Posted - 2004.07.30 16:59:00 -
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One question, I was under in the impression that many, many moons ago that Blacksheep (or some of the members that then become Blacksheep) and its recent evolution of Amarria Auxilia, before they found religion (or access to PIEĘs wallet) that they were in fact piratesą So does that mean PIE donĘt mind flying with ex-pirates?! So, if they can not fly with reformed rouges, why can we not?!
If I am wrong I stand corrected, however, that doesnĘt change the fact I welcome Ben to FU2 as someone will to stand up to the evils of slavery.
And now my services are required in a bar somewhereą so if you see my ship wobbling though space tonight or me asleep at a gate, please point me in the direction of Pator.
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Dragon Ramirez
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Posted - 2004.07.30 16:59:00 -
[92]
One question, I was under in the impression that many, many moons ago that Blacksheep (or some of the members that then become Blacksheep) and its recent evolution of Amarria Auxilia, before they found religion (or access to PIEĘs wallet) that they were in fact piratesą So does that mean PIE donĘt mind flying with ex-pirates?! So, if they can not fly with reformed rouges, why can we not?!
If I am wrong I stand corrected, however, that doesnĘt change the fact I welcome Ben to FU2 as someone will to stand up to the evils of slavery.
And now my services are required in a bar somewhereą so if you see my ship wobbling though space tonight or me asleep at a gate, please point me in the direction of Pator.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.31 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dragon Ramirez One question, I was under in the impression that many, many moons ago that Blacksheep (or some of the members that then become Blacksheep) and its recent evolution of Amarria Auxilia, before they found religion (or access to PIE?s wallet)
Just because it is an untruth and a despicable insult, does not mean you have to constantly fling it into my face does it?
I've simply had it with this, will note your name and simply keep it in mind. Enough is enough. ----------------------------------------------
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.31 10:10:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Dragon Ramirez One question, I was under in the impression that many, many moons ago that Blacksheep (or some of the members that then become Blacksheep) and its recent evolution of Amarria Auxilia, before they found religion (or access to PIE?s wallet)
Just because it is an untruth and a despicable insult, does not mean you have to constantly fling it into my face does it?
I've simply had it with this, will note your name and simply keep it in mind. Enough is enough. ----------------------------------------------
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2004.07.31 19:58:00 -
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My god, for the first time ever i agree with Gaius!
Just let it go... Who each side wishes to fight with is their own business. If it gets the result wished (that of a higher death rate of the enemy) then its a fair choice.
Now let this thread die.
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2004.07.31 19:58:00 -
[96]
My god, for the first time ever i agree with Gaius!
Just let it go... Who each side wishes to fight with is their own business. If it gets the result wished (that of a higher death rate of the enemy) then its a fair choice.
Now let this thread die.
www.freetribes.net |

Scaramouche
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Posted - 2004.07.31 22:35:00 -
[97]
Hey......thumbs up to Gaius and Ph0enix, agreed, leave it!
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Scaramouche
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Posted - 2004.07.31 22:35:00 -
[98]
Hey......thumbs up to Gaius and Ph0enix, agreed, leave it!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.08.01 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador .. will note your name and simply keep it in mind. Enough is enough.
How much did you pay them exactly gaius?  
...sorry i could not resist. I would do anything to get on that list , where he just put my corpmate on 
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.08.01 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador .. will note your name and simply keep it in mind. Enough is enough.
How much did you pay them exactly gaius?  
...sorry i could not resist. I would do anything to get on that list , where he just put my corpmate on 
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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