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DoMxj
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:01:00 -
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I want you input on whether you think that the existanse of recon ships in every small
(2-3 ships) gangs has made solo play a nearly imposible task. and i dont mean the
falcon or rook but generally all recons.
I remember some years ago that there where players that we all admired as being good
pilots since they good bring down 2-3 or maybe more enemy ships together in their
but now if one of the three enemies is in a recon ship this task is impossible
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:06:00 -
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i dont think it has, many people i know still solo, i meet one of them the other day in curse from my old alliances,
i think it has changed the face of pvp from there introduction but solo is more alive than you think.
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Ferenc Puskas
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:15:00 -
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solo is definitely not dead but it's rare, there's always someone with a recon friend or a logistic ship. BS solo is almost dead since they're to slow to avoid 2-3man gang death squads lol. |
DoMxj
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Armoured C
i dont think it has, many people i know still solo, i meet one of them the other day in curse from my old alliances,
i think it has changed the face of pvp from there introduction but solo is more alive than you think.
Well a curse is a recon ship and 9 out 10 solo stories (in 0.0) i know is with a recon lol.
I dont say that there is no solo going on i just say that solo game has been seriously damaged by recon ships
But i agree that recon ships has given alot to the game they have just f-u-c-k-e-d solo play imo |
Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:21:00 -
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as i said recon redifined solo,
remember just because your solo'ing doesnt mean other people are , so there are group out of there , so to have a ship that can get you out of trouble easier than other ship would probably make it a better ship to take, although i knoew a few people that go with cepters, HACs, i know a guy that goes out with a absolution.
recons made the solo pvp easier to ecsape the blobbers |
Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:29:00 -
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Recons has definetly not killed soloplay.
The slow death of solo is from (many) other reasons. |
Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: DoMxj
I want you input on whether you think that the existanse of recon ships in every small
(2-3 ships) gangs has made solo play a nearly imposible task. and i dont mean the
falcon or rook but generally all recons.
I remember some years ago that there where players that we all admired as being good
pilots since they good bring down 2-3 or maybe more enemy ships together in their
but now if one of the three enemies is in a recon ship this task is impossible
No, not recons. Just Falcons. \o/ |
DoMxj
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: DoMxj
I want you input on whether you think that the existanse of recon ships in every small
(2-3 ships) gangs has made solo play a nearly imposible task. and i dont mean the
falcon or rook but generally all recons.
I remember some years ago that there where players that we all admired as being good
pilots since they good bring down 2-3 or maybe more enemy ships together in their
but now if one of the three enemies is in a recon ship this task is impossible
No, not recons. Just Falcons. \o/
and curse for sure \o/
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.18 21:49:00 -
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Minmatar and Gallente Recons are just long-distance tackle. Damps and webs have both been balanced fairly well too. Amarr Recons are anti-tanking but it seems everyone uses buffer tanks in PvP, so ironically Amarr Recons are most effective not at turning off reppers but turning off the cap-heavy guns of other Amarr ships (and peoples' propulsion mods.) So while these three races can certainly ruin your day there's still a reason why the jokes are always about "Falcon alts", and not Arazu alts or Curse alts.
Falcons and Rooks are both a much greater combat multiplier than the other Recons, especially in small gangs. The supposed trade-off is that Falcons suck in combat compared to ships like the Rapier... but compared to the EWar types used by the other Recons, ECM is a get out of jail free card if things go bad for the Recon pilot. I don't know if ECM necessarily has to be nerfed across the board, but the ships that get range bonuses for jamming mods should probably have those bonuses reduced or replaced. Falcons get what, four times the effective EWar range of other Recon ships?
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baltec1
R.U.S.T.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.18 21:59:00 -
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The irony here is that recons make good solo boats
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.01.18 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 18/01/2009 22:03:22
Combat recons are fine I think, they add a good tactical element to the game.
Force recons however as a whole were very damaging to small gang pvp I'd say, yes.
As although they weren't exactly "I win" buttons, they are the ultimate surprise engage at will ships. With near zero risk, since you pick all the fights, you pick all the victories.
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Horsemen of Apocalypse
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Posted - 2009.01.18 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: DoMxj
I want you input on whether you think that the existanse of recon ships in every small
(2-3 ships) gangs has made solo play a nearly imposible task. and i dont mean the
falcon or rook but generally all recons.
I remember some years ago that there where players that we all admired as being good
pilots since they good bring down 2-3 or maybe more enemy ships together in their
but now if one of the three enemies is in a recon ship this task is impossible
eh, multiple recons in a fleet is no different than multiple nanos or multiple battleships in a gang, i doubt one bs pilot could take 3 other bs pilots, and i doubt one person could take 3 nano's by themselves
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
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Ezael Whiteshadow
Caldari
Divine Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.01.18 23:30:00 -
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The OP is assuming CCP intended EVE to be a solo game. Countless articles and interviews with EVE's creators reveal that CCP want people to play together. I hear this 'solo play is dead' rant over and over again but you have to ask if CCP cares given that they have created a massively multiplayer online game.
To me, this rant seems a bit redundant because, in the end, all ships have the capability of being solo ships it just depends on the target. And recons have not destroyed solo play, people playing with their friends have just made it impossible for 'solo players' to PvP effectively.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.18 23:36:00 -
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going solo is like saying your rambo or terminator , it cool but they get old really fast.
i prefer small gang warfare , solo i have respect for but small gang is better
a nice well balanced small gang a recon or 2 with a commandship and a tackler is a good gang
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Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2009.01.19 00:06:00 -
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i dunno but if the title of this thread had been "Have Recon ships killed solo whatsits", I would've given you a clear answer. As things stand, my secret will die with me!
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.19 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Pompous
i dunno but if the title of this thread had been "Have Recon ships killed solo whatsits", I would've given you a clear answer. As things stand, my secret will die with me!
shame you cant die being a pod pilot and all that ^_^
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2009.01.19 00:18:00 -
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i agree that nanos killed solo play
(see what i did there?)
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Captain Hack
Caldari
The Eye.
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Posted - 2009.01.19 00:26:00 -
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web nerf and agility boost killed solo play
Then the bears came and started yelling and screaming at me, there were nothing I could do about it, like you cannot help but read my signature. |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.19 00:35:00 -
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