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Malcanis
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Posted - 2009.01.19 18:35:00 -
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Agreed. Let's stop the increasingly threadbare pretence that hi-sec has non-consensual PvP, and change the PvE rewards there to reflect it's "starter area" status. |

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Posted - 2009.01.19 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Skye They're not carebears. They're merely protecting their primary goals. Just ask Malcanis. I'm sure he'll agree with me.
As long as they are protecting their primary goal and not asking CCP to protect it for them then I have absolutely no issue with "carebears" whatsoever. In fact I'd say that if they're protecting their goals themselves then by definition they aren't carebears. It's the ones who run squeaking to the forums and the GMs and the devs for ever more protection who are carebears.
Feel free to spend as much time as you like searching for some post of mine that contradicts this basic principle.
Or do what you normally do, and imagine me saying something that contradicts it, and then post as if I had in fact said it. So much easier 'winning' your imaginary arguments against my imaginary posts, isn't it? Who needs "facts"? |

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Posted - 2009.01.19 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen Ganking carebears who can't possibly fight back != "PVP"
Just as "Shooting fish in a barrel" != "Fishing"
have you ever actually been fishing? Do you know how most fish are caught? |

Malcanis
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Posted - 2009.01.19 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Qordel
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Bish Ounen Ganking carebears who can't possibly fight back != "PVP"
Just as "Shooting fish in a barrel" != "Fishing"
have you ever actually been fishing? Do you know how most fish are caught?
By pretending to be an underage girl on the internet and seducing them into coming to your house where that one guy can ambush them on national television?
I believe that is the greenpeace-approved method. |

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Posted - 2009.01.19 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mikalya
Originally by: Malcanis
As long as they are protecting their primary goal and not asking CCP to protect it for them then I have absolutely no issue with "carebears" whatsoever. In fact I'd say that if they're protecting their goals themselves then by definition they aren't carebears. It's the ones who run squeaking to the forums and the GMs and the devs for ever more protection who are carebears.
Funny thing is I see more people whining about the Bears than bears whining about them What does that make them? By your definition that makes them Bears too...
Not counting yourself in that group as I've never seen you gripe for CCP's help. But the OP is definately in that category 
Ah you must have missed the forum fun this summer then. Bear tears abounded. |

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Posted - 2009.01.19 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
Originally by: Shibbykiko Why not just get rid of concord and make it so you can't lock other people in empire? Thats where this game seems to be heading, it's becoming zone based PvP because care bears are so adamant about have 0 RISK even if it means almost 0 reward. I don't understand why my play style is being forced to change, because people are so anti pvp in a pvp game? (And by my play style I mean actually having the option of attacking and killing some body in empire if I think they are an enemy logistics corp)
I remember starting this game years ago, and there was actually threat that you could be blown up everywhere you went... now its basically none in empire what so ever. It makes the game bland and boring.
So CCP, why is this cold dark evil pvp game, a warm fuzzy carebear land everywhere thats not low/null sec? And why is there so much reward with absolutely 0 risk?
Long story short, Nerf Empire, Nerf Bear rewards, buff 0.0 and low sec so people go there and can be shot.
Except that won't work. The more you increase impact of the risk, the less likely people will be prepared to face the chance of that risk occurring. If you nerf Empire, say by reducing the ISK available there then players will stay in Empire longer to ensure they have sufficient ISK to PVP. C.
~citation needed |
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