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Hrett The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.23 16:04:00 - [1] The title has two meanings... First, there was a fleet battle on the Villore gate in OMS last night. 35ish Gallente (with about 5ish BS + cruisers and smaller) v. 30ish Caldari (15 BC+ ships). It was my first big fight since returning to EVE after a year's abscence, and it was really cool. . Second, although the Gallente held the field at the end, and came out ahead on kills, but the winner of the Battle was LAG. So put in some petitions - fight for OMS and perhaps Tama to get put on one of the good server blades. ~65 people should not bring a system to its knees like that, especially since both see pretty heavy engagement activity because of FW. I am noticing ~150ish kills in these systems per day. Surely that justifies a better server blade? And for those of you that havent seen it, here is the OMS story, which just happened to pop up on the Eve front page today: http://www.eve-online.com/background/potw/jul01-01.asp So - put in some petitions and fight for Old Man Star!
Snake O'Donell	Posted - 2009.01.23 16:56:00 - [2] We have petitioned this several times. CCP siad they would look into it.
Mitch Taylor Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.01.23 19:42:00 - [3] Perhaps reinforcing Tama and Old man Star would be a good idea.
Unfamed II Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.01.23 20:27:00 - [4] Originally by: Mitch Taylor Perhaps reinforcing Tama and Old man Star would be a good idea. Perhaps? More likely it would be megauberawesomous! But yes, please CCP, do something and we can has moar good fights. Also rework the UI code. Like totally. Originally by: Sandslinger of CA So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2009.01.23 20:38:00 - [5] Both warzones have a handful of systems that see 90% of the action. Common sense would say that it's possible to semi-reinforce them. The Amarr/Minmatar have been pushing for more juice for a while. THIS is probably the best constructed thread with lots of signatories. Lowsec has zero population compared to empire, but the FW zones sees more action than even 0.0 but have less power thanks to being lowsec.
olzi Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.01.23 21:36:00 - [6] Yes, please. Reinforce the OMS node, or atleast give us the ability to submit petitions to reinforce it when we know an above average battle is going to take. The current lower limit of 300 pilots for a node reinforcement petition is way too high for nearly all FW fights, yet the nodes can't handle them.
Florio Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2009.01.23 23:24:00 - [7] Originally by: Mitch Taylor Perhaps reinforcing Tama and Old man Star would be a good idea. yes please.
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2009.01.24 00:49:00 - [8] Edited by: Nyphur on 24/01/2009 00:49:11 OMS and Tama need to be permanantly reinforced. We can't ask for reinforcement via petition because we don't plan these fleet battles. They're primarily spur of the moment things that happen when a good FC decides he wants to run a big fleet or when an enemy fleet is spotted and a defence fleet needs to be formed. There's an assembly hall petition here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=954555
Firkragg Blue Labs Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.01.24 03:50:00 - [9] tbh doesnt even need a reinforced system jsut needs to be took off the hellhole that all low sec systems get put on. Basically an an unreinforced 0.0 system you can have 100man fights and its fine. My guess is that 0.0 systems get put on nodes with other 0.0 systems (most of which are empty) while low sec systems get lumped onto nodes with high sec systems. This is all just guesswork though with experience of combat in all areas of eve in recent times (i.e since they made the changes in QR)
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.24 03:57:00 - [10] An average fleet fight in FW isn't going to need a reinforced node like the kind they get out in 0.0, since we have only a fraction of the number of players involved. That being said I have noticed that a number of the FW systems are rather susceptable to lag from relatively modest numbers of players. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2009.01.24 05:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Terianna Eri An average fleet fight in FW isn't going to need a reinforced node like the kind they get out in 0.0, since we have only a fraction of the number of players involved. That being said I have noticed that a number of the FW systems are rather susceptable to lag from relatively modest numbers of players. Relatively modest? I've been in High sec PVP matches with more people on grid and no lag. They just need to reinforce the entire universe.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.24 14:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Schalac Originally by: Terianna Eri An average fleet fight in FW isn't going to need a reinforced node like the kind they get out in 0.0, since we have only a fraction of the number of players involved. That being said I have noticed that a number of the FW systems are rather susceptable to lag from relatively modest numbers of players. Relatively modest? I've been in High sec PVP matches with more people on grid and no lag. They just need to reinforce the entire universe. Well it's not like the grid will lag the same amount each time. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Hereon Herinnger Gallente Nolra Corp	Posted - 2009.01.24 16:47:00 - [13] Actually, I think it would be better to do a smaller upgrade (maybe fewer systems on one blade or a fast node for the same group of systems, I forget how exactly the hardware works) to most of the FW areas - not every fight is in Tama or OMS. We don't need a dedicated node, since the battles are relatively small, but we do need something. When I first saw these threads after I joined FW, I thought you all were whiners. I have since changed my mind...
YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.01.24 18:24:00 - [14] confirmed. - had a FW break of about 2 month and lag is now not playable anymore. before my break we had kinda like 50-100 ppl each side and lag was doable most of the time. that definatly changed. lost ma ships two times those days in 15-15 engagements in black rise systems with a lokal of freakin 40 ppls. Im not petitioning my losses, Im going for that mayor lag issue.
Hornychef	Posted - 2009.01.24 19:16:00 - [15] Had my first real FW fleet fight in Tama last night. Tremendously enjoyed it and hope to do more. But. It was lag that killed my ship. OK I should maybe have warped out sooner when I realised it was a bit laggy. I just feel its a shame that (judging by everyones reactions) this is a commmon occurence in the FW hotspots. Don't want to comment on what CCP should do with their hardware / software as there is obviously a few different solutions - but it would be nice to see it fixed.
Ginger Lynn Caldari Spook Division	Posted - 2009.01.25 17:48:00 - [16] Edited by: Ginger Lynn on 25/01/2009 17:48:17 20 thoraxes releasing their 20*5 drones to clog things up, remove drone models and drone brackets helps. Also remove and backgrounds from people, like yellow for low sec players etc, keep the criminal one to :P But -drone models-drone brackets. Tremendous performance increase on your side. (I dont got a bad compy, but then there comes 200(40 man, 20 each side) drones on the field, that makes things syrup.)
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.01.25 20:57:00 - [17] Edited by: Raimo on 25/01/2009 20:58:46 Originally by: Hereon Herinnger Actually, I think it would be better to do a smaller upgrade (maybe fewer systems on one blade or a fast node for the same group of systems, I forget how exactly the hardware works) to most of the FW areas - not every fight is in Tama or OMS. We don't need a dedicated node, since the battles are relatively small, but we do need something. When I first saw these threads after I joined FW, I thought you all were whiners. I have since changed my mind... A dedicated (Beefy?) server to the main Black Rise systems and routes, and one to the minnie/Amarr side? Not a bad idea. There are usually only a handful of larger fleets roaming these systems so we only need beef for 1-3 larger simultaneous fights per battlefront IMO... Thus a single server (Or a few, I don't know how they scale) would probably be enough, and a much better alternative to "reinforcing" any single system. However, if that's not an option, yes Tama and OMS need the power most. Drone models have fukk all to do with it btw. I do all my 10+ fights with all the bracket and graphics settings off, no help from that. It's serverside. ---
YORK CRAFT Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.01.26 01:35:00 - [18] Edited by: YORK CRAFT on 26/01/2009 01:37:23 EDIT:done Originally by: Spoon1 With fights like this you have nothing to worry about... http://www.quafeultra.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=100635 I feel sorry about that dude Spoon1, who posted this in another thread, to show the world his uber abilities. Np, I know, our beloved enemies are not standing behind that kinda "stuff". Especially not Dead Parrots, who want real fights. - Well therefor, it indicates, as an example of many others, not even a major lag, it was a TOTAL DESYNCT. And dont tell a '03 Toon something about graphical display settings. - But you know, what Im talking about. Both sides set presssure on ccp to fix that mess. (Just for info : I do have a battle ratio of 73% and an efficiency of 90%, go for my stats on the KBs, np) But congrats, that you showed some balls. It could have been a real good fight, SHAME ON CCP. We all know, this major problem, could be *done within one single Downtime. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Spoon1 Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.01.26 02:06:00 - [19] Edited by: Spoon1 on 26/01/2009 02:06:12 Sigh Some people should not be allowed to breathe let alone breed. Originally by: Spoon1 You are speaking to an 03 player, just not on this char. And I shouldnt have to remind you everyone was affected by desynch, while we jumped into your drone out fleet on the gate. Which btw if you know anything means you had the upper hand from the word go even with a 7 man smaller fleet. Your kb stats mean nothing on here. Nor does your hock about us having balls to bring it. Every fight except one ive been involved in, Gallente won and held the field. Congratulations on your plexing tho.
Hereon Herinnger Gallente Nolra Corp	Posted - 2009.01.26 02:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Raimo Edited by: Raimo on 25/01/2009 20:58:46 Originally by: Hereon Herinnger Actually, I think it would be better to do a smaller upgrade (maybe fewer systems on one blade or a fast node for the same group of systems, I forget how exactly the hardware works) to most of the FW areas - not every fight is in Tama or OMS. We don't need a dedicated node, since the battles are relatively small, but we do need something. When I first saw these threads after I joined FW, I thought you all were whiners. I have since changed my mind... A dedicated (Beefy?) server to the main Black Rise systems and routes, and one to the minnie/Amarr side? Not a bad idea. There are usually only a handful of larger fleets roaming these systems so we only need beef for 1-3 larger simultaneous fights per battlefront IMO... Thus a single server (Or a few, I don't know how they scale) would probably be enough, and a much better alternative to "reinforcing" any single system. However, if that's not an option, yes Tama and OMS need the power most. Drone models have fukk all to do with it btw. I do all my 10+ fights with all the bracket and graphics settings off, no help from that. It's serverside. Now what I said actually makes sense . I think the whole area is more important than any one system. I'm playing on a brand new gaming computer with all brackets and drone models off in fleet battles... I don't think the lag is on my end.
Spoon1 Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.01.26 02:09:00 - [21] And in response to the actual topic. If we could get some better nodes for the hot spots of FW it would be excellent. Anything to help the dsync, so the Caldari can find something else to blame losses on would be welcomed. :) That last bit just had to be added in to ** Off the **** above my first post here hehe ><

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