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DevilDogUSMC Caldari V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N	Posted - 2009.01.24 07:51:00 - [1] Over the many years I have been playing this game I have seen many things. Great things and also troubling things( to me ). I could go on about the 5 and a half years I've been playing, all the stuff I've seen, but it would then be over shadowed by some 15 year old that just sat in a Helios during a mega blob battle. ( The Point Being ) Its honestly best not to waste your time.. I've often found that the microcosms of Mega Alliance pilots tend to make their own facts about the outcomes of some of these battles, being who is the victor and who is the looser. Despite the losses and the Forum blasting of KB Points you can find in each group a willingness to fight on despite the odds, the objective, and even the leader and treatment one gets in the group they represent. More then the organization itself, ships, and isk its important to look at the game cost based on the time you spend in the real world. Some times huge isk losses means beans to a group that's loaded anyways when the opposing force spent all their time and sweat to " concur the mountain " only to find that in the grand scheme of things the victor is who appeals to the people. Take the Goon / Bob War. Both sides have been going at it for a very long time. Both have had big Gains and Losses they both realize the roles they play in this game. CCP Loves the conflict, gamers love to pick a side and follow that side based on the way they play the game and their investments they make. Personally, I think some groups side with BOB based on the fact they like taking on the huge odds and Some Groups side with goon because they could care less as long as they have a S%#@ TON of fun while shooting an killing. Both in my eyes have managed to stand the test of time thus far and in my mind will continue to grow until something happens in the game mechanics to effect the number of pilots they can put out. I can say that I do have questions the day the conflict ends between BOB/Goon. 1. Who do they go for next. 2. What can the eve community gain from losing a conflict that generates income. 3. How will CCP adjust things in game based on a major faction/s dissolving. All of these things must be taken into account before you think you can understand them. To be honest after all my wondering I still don't know why pilots join corps and alliances to take part. I just know I'm happy seeing people be active and still have a love for the game the same way I have had for over 5 years,,, and not just crappy SP junk but being deeply involved in the growth of this game is what its all about Just my thoughts. DD Fly Safe o/
Cindy McCain Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.24 08:10:00 - [2] Okay.
Talitana Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.24 08:42:00 - [3] i had a worst sleep ever today :(
DevilDogUSMC Caldari V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N	Posted - 2009.01.24 10:22:00 - [4] Originally by: Talitana i had a worst sleep ever today :( Well shoot.. read this 2 more times an it will do what it did to me :P :P o/
Taz Devlin Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.01.24 10:31:00 - [5] Question is: Which of the two sides is the evil one?
Drider Deluxe Caldari Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.01.24 10:38:00 - [6] Originally by: Taz Devlin Question is: Which of the two sides is the evil one? it's a trick question. if bob win they take over all of 0,0 if goons win they kill the game.
Zyz'yx Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.24 10:40:00 - [7] yeah bob is like 2 or 3 days from dissolving I wonder what the war will be like when they are gone.
DevilDogUSMC Caldari V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N	Posted - 2009.01.24 10:44:00 - [8] Originally by: Taz Devlin Question is: Which of the two sides is the evil one? Oh Yummy You asked... Well depends on who you ask.. Some I have known to feel Goon is being the group of players honest with themselves viewing this as just a game doing everything it can to just let the rest of eve know it ( Totally In Their Own Way ) which I can look at and understand based on their actions/forum posts/random ganking I believe BOB friendly groups core belief is the under dog type of story when it comes down to it. meaning everybody must play their part and no matter the odds we can destroy the " Evil Goonies " clearing space and well just honestly playing the game. Despite all that Both sides depending on who you ask would view each one of them having elements of BOTH Good and Evil because they would not have been able to do half the things they have done in game and to an extent outside of the game without any Good or Bad Intentions on those who oppose them. and thus the EVE Cycle Goes Round.
Zyz'yx Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.24 10:50:00 - [9] Originally by: DevilDogUSMC Originally by: Taz Devlin Question is: Which of the two sides is the evil one? Oh Yummy You asked... Well depends on who you ask.. Some I have known to feel Goon is being the group of players honest with themselves viewing this as just a game doing everything it can to just let the rest of eve know it ( Totally In Their Own Way ) which I can look at and understand based on their actions/forum posts/random ganking I believe BOB friendly groups core belief is the under dog type of story when it comes down to it. meaning everybody must play their part and no matter the odds we can destroy the " Evil Goonies " clearing space and well just honestly playing the game. Despite all that Both sides depending on who you ask would view each one of them having elements of BOTH Good and Evil because they would not have been able to do half the things they have done in game and to an extent outside of the game without any Good or Bad Intentions on those who oppose them. and thus the EVE Cycle Goes Round. na dude we are totaly the bad guys, err good guys, wait. I fergot.
News R3porter Caldari THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2009.01.24 11:02:00 - [10] Goona/NC - have the numbers advantage by being blue to 80% of eve however the standard member has less sp on average than a BoB/-A- pilot -A-/BoB - have very highly trained Pvpers and excellent FCs however can rarely fight in even numbers against the NC/Goons Providing eve with unbiased news
Stretchmeat Crotchquake Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.24 11:12:00 - [11] Originally by: DevilDogUSMC 1. Who do they go for next. I dunno but that Angel Cartel's a real pain in the ass and I can't wait to invade their space and kick them out of the game.
Zyz'yx Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.24 11:22:00 - [12] Originally by: News R3porter Bob/-a- - have the numbers advantage by being blue to 80% of eve however the standard member has less brains on average than a goons/nc goons/nc - have very highly trained Pvpers and excellent FCs however can rarely fight in even numbers against the bob/-a-
Talitana Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.24 18:15:00 - [13] Originally by: News R3porter Goona/NC - have the numbers advantage by being blue to 80% of eve however the standard member has less sp on average than a BoB/-A- pilot -A-/BoB - have very highly trained Pvpers and excellent FCs however can rarely fight in even numbers against the NC/Goons our 30 man fleets backbone !!!
stop fire Minmatar Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2009.01.24 18:22:00 - [14] Edited by: stop fire on 24/01/2009 18:22:25 Originally by: Talitana Originally by: News R3porter Goona/NC - have the numbers advantage by being blue to 80% of eve however the standard member has less sp on average than a BoB/-A- pilot -A-/BoB - have very highly trained Pvpers and excellent FCs however can rarely fight in even numbers against the NC/Goons our 30 man fleets backbone !!! just on primetime :/
Dastycakes Caldari THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2009.01.24 18:22:00 - [15] Removing goons from the game would suck. I for one am doing this for the lolz of kicking em in the nuts. I believe both sides do it for the lolz but there is always the serious internet spaceship captian that gets into the game a little too much. If goons do lose, they will probably go back to syndicate and eventualy launch another attack on GBC. The war will never end. If -A-/bob lose, well we know that wouldnt happen All this has happend before and will happen again.
Palmer Eldritch Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.24 19:03:00 - [16] BoB: What are your skillpoints? Goons: Do you know how to target something? BoB: Both sides have taken heavy losses. Goons: Both sides have some ships left.
Norwood Franskly Minmatar Fleet of the Damned B.L.A.C.K.	Posted - 2009.01.24 21:49:00 - [17] Originally by: News R3porter Goona/NC - have the numbers advantage by being blue to 80% of eve however the standard member has less sp on average than a BoB/-A- pilot I think thats a bit of a myth propagated by one side of the conflict. Looking at http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/?o=memberCount Goons have around 5,000 members and maybe 30% of them are active at any given time TCF have about 1,500 members RA have 1,000 Then you've got Razor and MM down south, afaik rest of NC aren't there in any great numbers. Thats another about 5,000 people. Then you've got the various other blues participating in the south, Black, Scorched Earth etc, say another 1,500 people I'll file under misc. 14,000 on the Goon side then On the other side Bob are what the second largest alliance in game have 3,000 or so members AAA have another 2,000 or so. Exe + Atlas + Stain Empire + C0ven = about 4000 pilots. Then the various other guys on their side ex tri, ROL, various GBC etc so say 1,500 misc again 10,500 or something like that on the BOB \ AAA side. So it's not really 80% advantage people are claiming and taking activity and timezones into account the numbers are probably even closer. Someone else may want to do a more accurate count there's various other conflicts happening that are tangentially related eg. UNL vs GBC, PL vs GBC, Drone region guys pitching in for occasional op etc. i've tried to only count who I see as the "regulars" in the fights. But the main point I'm trying to make is I really don't think the numbers are as skewed as people try to spin it.
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.24 21:53:00 - [18] 30% of 5000 would be 1500 active players. If you remove the percent sign it becomes more accurate.
Shinma Apollo Caldari Shut Up And Play	Posted - 2009.01.25 00:31:00 - [19] Originally by: Norwood Franskly Originally by: News R3porter Goona/NC - have the numbers advantage by being blue to 80% of eve however the standard member has less sp on average than a BoB/-A- pilot I think thats a bit of a myth propagated by one side of the conflict. Looking at http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/?o=memberCount Goons have around 5,000 members and maybe 30% of them are active at any given time TCF have about 1,500 members RA have 1,000 Then you've got Razor and MM down south, afaik rest of NC aren't there in any great numbers. Thats another about 5,000 people. Then you've got the various other blues participating in the south, Black, Scorched Earth etc, say another 1,500 people I'll file under misc. 14,000 on the Goon side then On the other side Bob are what the second largest alliance in game have 3,000 or so members AAA have another 2,000 or so. Exe + Atlas + Stain Empire + C0ven = about 4000 pilots. Then the various other guys on their side ex tri, ROL, various GBC etc so say 1,500 misc again 10,500 or something like that on the BOB \ AAA side. So it's not really 80% advantage people are claiming and taking activity and timezones into account the numbers are probably even closer. Someone else may want to do a more accurate count there's various other conflicts happening that are tangentially related eg. UNL vs GBC, PL vs GBC, Drone region guys pitching in for occasional op etc. i've tried to only count who I see as the "regulars" in the fights. But the main point I'm trying to make is I really don't think the numbers are as skewed as people try to spin it. You forget that 90% of RAWR is ratting at any given time, and divided by tz it means rawr has has from 10-100 pilots. Don't forget to add goodfellas, SCA, x13, T E R c i o u s, strip mining club, Skunkworks...
Cindy McCain Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.25 07:09:00 - [20] I read the thread title as Big Ass Goku
SeeSeePee banstick Minmatar THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2009.01.25 08:35:00 - [21] Originally by: Cindy McCain I read the thread title as Big Ass Goku The first signs of denial..
Cindy McCain Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.25 08:37:00 - [22] Originally by: SeeSeePee banstick Originally by: Cindy McCain I read the thread title as Big Ass Goku The first signs of denial.. Yeah I guess you did not read the OP?
SeeSeePee banstick Minmatar THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2009.01.25 08:38:00 - [23] Edited by: SeeSeePee banstick on 25/01/2009 08:38:43 Originally by: Cindy McCain Yeah I guess you did not read the OP? I did, but you reading what you wanted to see is more my point. I expected better trolling from goonswarm :(
Cindy McCain Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.25 08:40:00 - [24] Originally by: SeeSeePee banstick Edited by: SeeSeePee banstick on 25/01/2009 08:38:43 Originally by: Cindy McCain Yeah I guess you did not read the OP? I did, but you reading what you wanted to see is more my point. I expected better trolling from goonswarm :( I expected you to be able to type something without having to click edit
Cindy McCain Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.25 08:42:00 - [25] You need to put some thought into your trolls before you type them dude. Having to edit every single post you make trying to get at me isnt very e cool
SeeSeePee banstick Minmatar THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2009.01.25 08:43:00 - [26] Edited by: SeeSeePee banstick on 25/01/2009 08:43:14 Originally by: Cindy McCain You need to put some thought into your trolls before you type them dude. Having to edit every single post you make trying to get at me isnt very e cool It is often because i forget to make them red, but thanks for trying to have a go at me by picking out small details like that edit - way to make the same point in 2 different posts
Cindy McCain Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.25 08:44:00 - [27] I heard goons like to post
SeeSeePee banstick Minmatar THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2009.01.25 08:45:00 - [28] Edited by: SeeSeePee banstick on 25/01/2009 08:45:50 -
SeeSeePee banstick Minmatar THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2009.01.25 08:46:00 - [29] Originally by: Cindy McCain I heard goons like to post Maybe if you spent less time on the forums, you could spend more time ingame saving your capitals...
Cindy McCain Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.25 08:47:00 - [30] http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/290134

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