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Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:30:00 - [1] Due to a fundamental breakdown in trust, honour and truth Neo Spartans Corporation has decided to reset Negative Ten Alliance to neutral. Here ends several months of close cooperation and fun, but the time has come for us to break free of our ties, to act as a true pirate corporation. Qapla.
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:32:00 - [2] Edited by: Shigsy on 25/01/2009 01:32:36 This will be dealt with
Renius Minmatar Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:33:00 - [3] Edited by: Renius on 25/01/2009 01:32:56 Good luck......... second
Jogvan coracao ardente	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:34:00 - [4] /o\
Rawrior Gallente Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:35:00 - [5] =0
Chori Moon	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:38:00 - [6] It shall be dealt with.
Arathon Theimies Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:42:00 - [7] This will be dealt with.
Coros Spark. Ignition.	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:47:00 - [8] This will be dealt with.
Ga'len Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:48:00 - [9] This will be dealt with.
Scaldo Pwncakes Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:55:00 - [10] So are you guys going to deal with this or not?
Kirex Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:56:00 - [11] Long over due, tbh. Did you guys realize you didn't need another corp helping you camp the same gate killing single targets 1 by 1? ;o
Fintroll Endemic Aggression	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:56:00 - [12] who cares ur both gay
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.25 01:58:00 - [13] Originally by: Fintroll who cares ur both gay <3 Fintroll
Coros Spark. Ignition.	Posted - 2009.01.25 02:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Fintroll who cares ur both gay <3 Fintroll
Agent Anarchii Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.25 02:51:00 - [15] what do you mean by it will be dealt with?
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.25 03:02:00 - [16] Originally by: Agent Anarchii what do you mean by it will be dealt with? <3 Fintroll
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.01.25 03:35:00 - [17] Originally by: Fintroll who cares ur both gay <3 Fintroll
Force Matrix	Posted - 2009.01.25 04:49:00 - [18] Just thought this thread needed one reply that didnt involve sticking a tongue firmly up Larkonis's butt
Orar Ironfist Digital assassins	Posted - 2009.01.25 06:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Force Matrix Just thought this thread needed one reply that didnt involve sticking a tongue firmly up Larkonis's butt You suck, alot.
Vaden Khale Amarr the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.01.25 06:48:00 - [20] Oh.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries	Posted - 2009.01.25 06:49:00 - [21] I HEAR THAT THIS WILL BE DEALT WITH, C/D?
Skira Ranos Blood Money Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.25 08:16:00 - [22] since when did the EVE-o forums become 4-chan?
Silent Sins Deliciously Vicious	Posted - 2009.01.25 09:55:00 - [23] Finntroll is the **. yeah. yeah. ------------------------------ ****************** ------------------------------
Anderson Williams Gallente Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.25 10:33:00 - [24] Some of us are really shocked tbh...
Zeraphine Akarii Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.25 10:33:00 - [25] Great stuff. Good luck to you, Neo's o7
Senator Pratt	Posted - 2009.01.25 10:37:00 - [26] The important question is, will it be dealt with?
Alekseyev Karrde Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.25 10:59:00 - [27] Originally by: Senator Pratt The important question is, will it be dealt with? At this point, it's not clear. Good luck to the Neo Spartans! --- Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam
Count MonteCarlo Uranus Assault Team	Posted - 2009.01.25 11:08:00 - [28] Hopefully this means that neo spartans won't be known as another noob gatecamping corp, gl lark and **** off shigsy and
Gneeznow Minmatar Goo Spew	Posted - 2009.01.25 11:12:00 - [29] WHEN I WAS ...
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.25 12:14:00 - [30] Originally by: Count MonteCarlo Hopefully this means that neo spartans won't be known as another noob gatecamping corp, gl lark and ** off shigsy and Oh no, we still are Originally by:** Gneeznow WHEN I WAS ... Calm Your Passion
Nathan Harrow Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2009.01.25 12:41:00 - [31] Best of luck guys, when will this be dealt with? Duty.
JoeT Amarr Short Attention Span	Posted - 2009.01.25 13:21:00 - [32] Originally by: Skira Ranos since when did the EVE-o forums become 4-chan? I wonder this everyday. Quote: This will be dealt with. ORLY? - We are anonymous. We Are legion.
Verizana Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.25 14:00:00 - [33] This will be dealt with.
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis Mean Coalition	Posted - 2009.01.25 15:05:00 - [34] Thread needs more drama and smack. THE MOB DEMANDS IT!
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.25 16:49:00 - [35] United and Neo killing each other. Didn't think I'd ever see this coming. What's the scoop? What all have I missed out on in the past several months? CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
Villwrath Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.01.25 18:36:00 - [36] Wait a second, are you saying that the united is untrustworthy and dishonorable? lol well there is a surprise! You Neo guys seemed alright, just horrible at choosing friends I guess. Good luck in your future endeavors guys.
Lord Windu Echelon Holdings Echelon.	Posted - 2009.01.25 20:02:00 - [37] This will be dealt with, probably, maybe, and stuff.
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2009.01.25 20:10:00 - [38] Originally by: Larkonis Trassler Originally by: Count MonteCarlo Hopefully this means that neo spartans won't be known as another noob gatecamping corp, gl lark and ** off shigsy and Oh no, we still are Originally by:** Gneeznow WHEN I WAS ... A YOUNG WARTHOOOOOOOOOOOOOG! After all, everyone needs some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.01.25 23:18:00 - [39]
Gneeznow Minmatar Goo Spew	Posted - 2009.01.25 23:19:00 - [40] you raff you roose!!, post nOw~!!
Taram Caldar Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:00:00 - [41] /me gets out the popcorn popper.
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:21:00 - [42] Originally by: Villwrath Wait a second, are you saying that the united is untrustworthy and dishonorable? lol well there is a surprise! They have a lot of new faces from when I was with them. So I can't say for sure how they are now a days. We were an honorable bunch back then...I would hope they still are. Untrustworthy? Hell they're pirates for crying out loud! CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
ponieus the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:26:00 - [43] I have not logged in for about a month now. This is news to me. I am curious what happend. I always liked you guys. Was fun kicking it in the pocket with you folks. This makes me a sad panda. I hope you guys get what you are looking for. Great group of guys gonna miss the chats we have had. Have fun Neo's best of luck to you.
Captain Pompous	Posted - 2009.01.26 00:52:00 - [44] ^^ oh and i thought negative ten was the standings change that neo spartans set, it's actually an alliance I guess it's a joke or something -------------------------------------------- Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you.
LastRebel Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.26 01:32:00 - [45] Good luck, Spartans o/
Daplat Mode Caldari Mean Corp Mean Coalition	Posted - 2009.01.26 19:19:00 - [46] Confirming nap fest in effect. Also confirming this will not be dealt with. Nice try tho
Orar Ironfist Digital assassins	Posted - 2009.01.26 20:15:00 - [47] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. /signed also Candleja-
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.26 20:18:00 - [48] Originally by: Daplat Mode Confirming nap fest in effect. Also confirming this will not be dealt with. Nice try tho Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Doyalikietindabutt Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.01.26 20:19:00 - [49] Edited by: Doyalikietindabutt on 26/01/2009 20:19:25 Originally by: Daplat Mode Confirming nap fest in effect. Also confirming this will not be dealt with. Nice try tho HAHAHAHAHA, funny one. So, you think that this is some scheme to bait people? Well, are you sure? http://www.nspta.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=61778 http://www.thebl3h.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=104488 This kill is on both of their killboards. Looks like they are shooting each other. I would not say the NAP is still on. I've been poking my eyes around their little pocket, they are not working together at all. I would guess that something happened. the OP says something about fundamental trust issues. I wonder what happened.
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.26 20:20:00 - [50] Edited by: Shigsy on 26/01/2009 20:20:55 im terrible at the forums
Gneeznow Minmatar Goo Spew	Posted - 2009.01.26 20:30:00 - [51] Originally by: Shigsy Edited by: Shigsy on 26/01/2009 20:20:55 im terrible at the forums you should probably deal with that
Bruce Scythe Atomic Mexicans	Posted - 2009.01.26 23:21:00 - [52] In all honesty I could have sworn Neo Spartans were mercs.
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.26 23:49:00 - [53] Originally by: Bruce Scythe In all honesty I could have sworn Neo Spartans were mercs. Not full time. We've dabbled in the odd short term contract here and there.
Daplat Mode Caldari Mean Corp Mean Coalition	Posted - 2009.01.27 09:50:00 - [54] Nah, I didn't say who's trying to NAP who. But needless to say, the attempt was futile.
Anderson Williams Gallente Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.27 10:08:00 - [55] Lol there are always Naps being attempted in the pocket. Always.. you just have to know who to ask. Some know all and some know some... Either way you probably dont know ****...
Kale Kold Caldari Brutal Seizure	Posted - 2009.01.27 11:15:00 - [56] COAD that way --->
Gneeznow Minmatar Goo Spew	Posted - 2009.01.27 11:27:00 - [57] page 3 snypa
Stu Pendisdick Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.27 11:27:00 - [58] 'splain to me why anyone would give a obese hairy rodent's rectum?
Nexus Kinnon Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.01.27 13:12:00 - [59] Originally by: Fintroll who cares ur both gay quotin findongs for page2
Flamable Content	Posted - 2009.01.27 16:42:00 - [60] I heard Neo baited Neg10/United with a neutral fleet, Neo had smartbomb BS and took out most of their pods...Neos didn't lose anything to the neut fleet that Neg10 went to help Neo kill... Sounds fishy to me.
Amy Mouse	Posted - 2009.01.27 17:11:00 - [61] Originally by: Flamable Content I heard Neo baited Neg10/United with a neutral fleet, Neo had smartbomb BS and took out most of their pods...Neos didn't lose anything to the neut fleet that Neg10 went to help Neo kill... Sounds fishy to me. no, ns caps asked united for help when they got tackled and capitals were coming in, united being chicken after other recent hotdrops, came in whimpy battleships and got killed by smartbombs by ns caps fending off fighters from opposing carriers (also they got podded, what ya think smartbombs do?)
Flamable Content	Posted - 2009.01.27 17:20:00 - [62] Originally by: Amy Mouse no, ns caps asked united for help when they got tackled and capitals were coming in, united being chicken after other recent hotdrops, came in whimpy battleships and got killed by smartbombs by ns caps fending off fighters from opposing carriers (also they got podded, what ya think smartbombs do?) You'd think that United would have been the ones resetting NS instead of the other way arround. Maybe it was mutual after that...I dunno. If what you're saying is true then there was a major miscommunication between them. If I'm correct...NS didn't lose anything...so they didn't exactly need Uniteds' help after all... Still sounds fishy to me.
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.27 17:41:00 - [63] Edited by: Shigsy on 27/01/2009 17:42:19 Originally by: Flamable Content Originally by: Amy Mouse no, ns caps asked united for help when they got tackled and capitals were coming in, united being chicken after other recent hotdrops, came in whimpy battleships and got killed by smartbombs by ns caps fending off fighters from opposing carriers (also they got podded, what ya think smartbombs do?) You'd think that United would have been the ones resetting NS instead of the other way arround. Maybe it was mutual after that...I dunno. If what you're saying is true then there was a major miscommunication between them. If I'm correct...NS didn't lose anything...so they didn't exactly need Uniteds' help after all... Still sounds fishy to me. Yeah we lost nothing at all edit: I actually didn't lose anything, not even 1 drone \o/
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.27 17:57:00 - [64] Originally by: Flamable Content Originally by: Amy Mouse no, ns caps asked united for help when they got tackled and capitals were coming in, united being chicken after other recent hotdrops, came in whimpy battleships and got killed by smartbombs by ns caps fending off fighters from opposing carriers (also they got podded, what ya think smartbombs do?) You'd think that United would have been the ones resetting NS instead of the other way arround. Maybe it was mutual after that...I dunno. If what you're saying is true then there was a major miscommunication between them. If I'm correct...NS didn't lose anything...so they didn't exactly need Uniteds' help after all... Still sounds fishy to me. Hello United and Neutral alt (love your scamming BTW Amy Mouse, you must tell me who your main is). Lol. If we'd wanted to bait United's cap fleet we could have done so in a much better way than this. Linkage Contains battle reports from multiple sources. I cba writing again but the gist is. We were ****ing around shooting some pos mods. We got jumped by a 40 man BS gang, lost a carrier due to lag/desynch, managed to get a good spider tank on the go but couldn't break their's. United were asked to bring in their caps as BS would just get eaten by lag before we could rep them. They bought BS, all died. The carriers managed to kill enough stuff to be able to bail. This incident didn't incite the reset. Fair play to them for bringing help anyway. I'd have been as edgey in the same situation. Certain actions and words by United heirarchy afterwards prompted it. Then I got horrendously drunk on Sat night, told United they were getting reset and made this poast. The End. Calm Your Passion
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.27 17:58:00 - [65] Originally by: Gneeznow page 3 snypa Fail Calm Your Passion
Pulanchi	Posted - 2009.01.27 17:59:00 - [66] Originally by: Flamable Content I heard Neo baited Neg10/United with a neutral fleet, Neo had smartbomb BS and took out most of their pods...Neos didn't lose anything to the neut fleet that Neg10 went to help Neo kill... Sounds fishy to me. Wow, that's interesting. Sandwich/Liiza Valora/Ed Sampson told all Negative Ten alliance members to no longer assist Neos as he wanted to pressure them to join the formal alliance. United and Neos had an agreement that effectivly formed an alliance. They would provide intel for each other and help each other out when they got into something that was over their heads. The Neos always honored that agreement. They always put forth an effort above and beyond anyone could expect from a group of friends. They always came and helped United and on more than one occasion the Neos would loose more in ships and pods than United would loose. As for the Neos baiting United, that is total bull**. I hear that Larkonis gave good intel as usual and asked you to come help as United had asked Neos many times before. I believe that he said to you, "Could you come and help, we have a big fight. Could you come in what you can? If you are coming, I would bring caps if you can as we can end the fight quick. If you come in battleships, you will probably die" or something very close to that. I was not their, it's what some United members are telling me. You simply decided to be a total f* tard coward as you always are and tried to leave them out to dry. I am sure that many of United did not agree with you and as it looks like some of them went to the Neos. Tell me, how much of a berating did you give those members of the United that honored the agreement? How much rage and abuse did they receive with you yelling at them for not following your orders to dishonor the agreement with the Neos? Looking at their killboard and yours, I can see that you are again being a total f*** tard again and lying through your teeth. Looks to me that they lost a great deal. You lost only battleships and pods (expensive implants I am sure) and yet the Neos lost a carrier, a command ship, battleships and pods (expensive implants as well). Looks like Lark telling you "if you come in battleships, you will probably die" was accurate. http://www.nspta.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=59185 http://www.thebl3h.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=102130 Sandwich, I am really angry that you have gone and ruined a wonderful relationship with the Neos. I can't say that I am surprised that you posted with an alt as you are such a coward you wouldn't actually use your main. Yes, I am posting with my alt as I left United and I don't want to be harrased in game as you do to all former United members. I had enough of your crap and your constant paranoia putting strain on relationships with other corps. If you didn't trust them Neos, why did you always have Lark as the FC on our major engagements? Is it perhaps he was the FC in the joint engagements because he knows how to lead. You however, like to bludgeon people into submission. No wonder they don't want anything to do with you anymore. Neos, I am sorry that you were left you out to dry in that big fight in Lamadent. Try to understand that there are people in United that do not agree with Sandwich but they are afraid of what he will do to them if they go against him. They look at how he has harassed people in game for months for simply being honorable. He's nothing more that a worthless gate camping griefer who couldn't lead ants on a picnic blanket to the food 2 feet away. The Neos are far better off without United and I wish them the best.
Flamable Content	Posted - 2009.01.27 18:10:00 - [67] Edited by: Flamable Content on 27/01/2009 18:10:38 Originally by: Pulanchi You say "You" as though I'm a member of United...An Alt yes, United Alt...No. Just an old member outside of the loop curious about what all happened.
Alekseyev Karrde Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.27 18:20:00 - [68] humerous stat related to those smart bombs: Though NSPTA had negative efficiency in our contract against them and we've never really run into them before/since, they have a positive global efficiency on our kb because of all the Negative Ten mails they got on. --- Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam
Jogvan Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.27 18:24:00 - [69] Thread needs less alts tbh
Pulanchi	Posted - 2009.01.27 18:30:00 - [70] Originally by: Flamable Content Edited by: Flamable Content on 27/01/2009 18:10:38 Originally by: Pulanchi You say "You" as though I'm a member of United...An Alt yes, United Alt...No. Just an old member outside of the loop curious about what all happened. I am sorry, I thought you might actually be Sandwich. If you are in fact Sandwich and you are lying again, the F*** you. If you are not Sandwich, well then accept my apologies. If you are in fact being truthful, then we are both former members of a fail corp that is doomed to fail with Sandwich at the helm. I can also see that means that you and I are both smarter than Sandwich as we have in fact left. So tell me, do you agree with what I said? Would you add anything here?
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.27 18:38:00 - [71] Edited by: Karrade Krise on 27/01/2009 18:39:07 Can't we all, just get along?
Flamable Content	Posted - 2009.01.27 19:04:00 - [72] Originally by: Pulanchi I am sorry, I thought you might actually be Sandwich. If you are in fact Sandwich and you are lying again, the F*** you. If you are not Sandwich, well then accept my apologies. If you are in fact being truthful, then we are both former members of a fail corp that is doomed to fail with Sandwich at the helm. I can also see that means that you and I are both smarter than Sandwich as we have in fact left. So tell me, do you agree with what I said? Would you add anything here? Well, I find that I'm kinda indifferent on a lot of things. I don't know all the exact details so I don't want to jump onto a bandwagon or anything. There were some things about being in United that were annoying, but it was always tolerable to me. I had left for out of game matters. I wouldn't exactly call Bl3h a fail corp...it was probably the best one I've been in, at least it was while I was in it. They have a new lineup of pilots I've noticed, so I have no idea how exactly they are as a corp. We had issues...but they were issues I'm sure most if not all of the top pirate corps had or has. NS and Bl3h always worked well together...Strange how things can change in less than a year. At least they should be bringing the fight to each other if they havn't changed too much
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.27 19:10:00 - [73] Edited by: Shigsy on 27/01/2009 19:10:51 Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde humerous stat related to those smart bombs: Though NSPTA had negative efficiency in our contract against them and we've never really run into them before/since, they have a positive global efficiency on our kb because of all the Negative Ten mails they got on. The stats were about even stevens as we included all your allies you used against us aswell. Of course your corp stats are going to be better against us when there is is multiply allies helping you aswell edit: I like this thread
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.27 19:12:00 - [74] Edited by: Shigsy on 27/01/2009 19:13:25 I am Pulanchi.
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.27 19:16:00 - [75] Originally by: Shigsy Edited by: Shigsy on 27/01/2009 19:13:25 I am Pulanchi. No! I am Pulanchi!
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.27 19:38:00 - [76] Originally by: Larkonis Trassler Originally by: Shigsy Edited by: Shigsy on 27/01/2009 19:13:25 I am Pulanchi. No! I am Pulanchi! I am Pulanchi! You are all just my alts. Stop arguing with me, Alt!
Alekseyev Karrde Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.27 19:59:00 - [77] 2 Duty guys were in one engagement and then that big brawl. Isnt that cheating to lump em all ;p I meant spec on our board tho, i think you guys have like 60%. --- Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam
Jogvan Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.27 20:32:00 - [78] Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde 2 Duty guys were in one engagement and then that big brawl. Isnt that cheating to lump em all ;p I meant spec on our board tho, i think you guys have like 60%. On our board you guys have 76% eff. but that's including the united bs kills that some of our carrier pilots got on
UnBaLaNcE Amarr Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.27 21:08:00 - [79] Long post inbound, prepare for sore eyes. A large battle took place in the lamadent system were we had a fairly large fleet including capitals deployed to take out a neutral POS. After some time a 40+ (Numbers maybe a bit off) man hostile fleet consisting of Cry Havoc, Noir and Eternal Rapture arrived in system and proceeded to engage us, without going into full details a decision was made to ask The United for assistance, they were fully informed of what the situation was, what we had and what the hostile fleet was made up of. The main member of UnitedÆs leadership that was online at the time (Liiza Valora aka Sandwich) decided that they would not be willing to deploy there capitals and would instead send a twelve man battleship gang to assist us, which we was extremely grateful for, unfortunately due to the issues with lag and module delay they soon found themselves losing there ships and due to the same issues with lag and the fact that our smartbombs would not turn off also saw them losing some of there pods which apparently had expensive implants fitted. After the engagement our CEO Larkonis Trassler was pulled into a private channel on comms by Sandwich were he came under attack for ôputting The united into a meat grinderö failing to provide accurate information and accused of lying. Larkonis was extremely unhappy with this as was the rest of our membership but worse was to come that would see us have no choice but to do what we have done. The very next day Larkonis received a transcript from a member of The United (who I will not name here) which related to various forum posts that Sandwich had made on The UnitedÆs forums regarding the situation that had taken place, and what he viewed as the future relationship between both Corps. Quote: 17 Jan 2009 - Pass it Along Please New post by Sandwich on Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:00 pm Please cease all assistance and operations with the Neo Spartans until further notice. Thank You. edit: Due to our current WAR TIME operations we will be focusing our efforts at maintaining our control in the Rancer pocket. Our resources and allocations need to be focussed on these efforts. The Neo Spartans are blue to us however our business MUST and WILL ALWAYS come first. In my opinion Our best interest at this time is to focus on our CORP and it's MEMBERSHIP. That being said, when in doubt always follow rule number one through three. Rule number one, Always engage on our terms not on anybody else's terms. Rule number two, Always worry about supporting our membership first and foremost. Rule number three, Good intel is key to our success, make sure you have it before acting. Sandwich Last edited by Sandwich on Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:16 pm, edited 2 times in total. Re: 17 Jan 2009 - Pass it Along Please New post by Sandwich on Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:24 pm Without Causing myself to become angry all over again I will try give an objection view point of what occurred and why I am stressing my point of single-minded-ness. Hmmm, doing something/anything without intel in eve-online: is a FOOLS ERAND! I understand what they did for you. I was not there nor have I heard the entire story. However jumping any amount of ships into a 40-60 man blob is simply DUMB. We were asked to do exactly that without the proper intel. We were expecting certain considerations when we arrived those considerations were not met. I was told, "we have 8 carriers engaged now, we are holding our own but need that little bit extra dps to break them." What I saw when I arrived was a 50 man enemy fleet (approximately). I only saw one carrier. When I asked what had happened to the Neo carriers and why more weren't destroyed, I was told some were desynced. Hmmm, sounds strange. Because the banter on ventrillo prior to us getting there sounded like they were killing targets, etc... I believe we were either set-up or we were used so their carriers could warp/jump away. That is my gut
UnBaLaNcE Amarr Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.27 21:09:00 - [80] feeling. That is why I wrote what i did today. We are blue to them for mutual beneficial reasons. Just because we are blue doesn't mean we are obligated to assist them when they get their asses in a sling. They were attacking a POS that they were paid to attack. What do we see from those gains, the answer is nothing. What do we get for our trouble, all 12 of our battleships blown the ** up and many of our members pods destroyed because (Insert Neo Member) was smartbombing in his carrier. Plain and simple we were asked to jump into the quicksand with them. I don't appreciate being used or taken advantage of. The way I see it as long as I'm here it won't happen again. You can bet on it! Matter-o-fact I am so ing ed off right now things in the pocket just might change.... I have to stop talking about it because IÆm just getting fired up again and I still have 3 hours left in my shift at work. Now under these circumstances and being faced with the comments Sandwich had made against our Corp why the ** would we not reset them? Since we first began working together with The United we have done more for them than most people would know and more for them than they have ever done for us, we ourselves have been called to assist them many times and we have been in situations were we have taken heavy losses but we have always stood by them and defended them in every possible way, we have risked our own capitals to save thereÆs many times, and have always trusted them, we have put up with rants and abuse from Sandwich many times, but we brushed it under the carpet and continued to support The United and help them. We have had many opportunities to wipe out the majority of The Uniteds capital fleet as well as there conventional fleet in the past yet we have never done so, or had the thought even cross our minds because of our respect and honesty towards them. People can accuse us of a lot of things, but noone can accuse us of betraying our friends or allies. Faced with the actions and comments made by Sandwich we can no longer brush things under the carpet, we will not be disrespected by anyone, looked down upon by anyone or unappreciated by someone, especially someone we have done so much for in the past and someone we classed as a long term friend and ally. To those members of The United that have supported us in the past and continue to do so you have my full respect, however I can assure you that while you remain a member of The United you will be treated as hostile and engaged on sight, we will not take pity upon you, nor shall we be easy on you because of past events or actions, and you can rest assured that we will defend ourselves and all that we have worked for by any means necessary, and you also have my promise that we will be relentless in our pursuit to remove what we view as a threat to us that lives in such close proximity to our home.
MARS V0LTA	Posted - 2009.01.27 21:33:00 - [81] Edited by: MARS V0LTA on 27/01/2009 21:33:32 What I notice about this thread is a lot of blithering by the Neo Spartans and not much response from the Negative 10 alliance. This reminds me of the time I found my sister's diary and there was ten pages devoted to whining about her boyfriend who had dumped her. Sorry, don't think you'll find a shoulder to cry on in C&P but maybe this is the****utic for you Neo Spartans?
Neo Rainhart Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.27 21:39:00 - [82] <3 pirate drama I'm on Neo's side
Amy Mouse	Posted - 2009.01.27 21:39:00 - [83]
50freefly Caldari Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.27 23:15:00 - [84] Originally by: Larkonis Trassler Originally by: Shigsy Edited by: Shigsy on 27/01/2009 19:13:25 I am Pulanchi. No! I am Pulanchi! These posts must be in jest, for it is I who is Pulanchi.
Coros Spark. Ignition.	Posted - 2009.01.27 23:24:00 - [85] Originally by: 50freefly Originally by: Larkonis Trassler Originally by: Shigsy Edited by: Shigsy on 27/01/2009 19:13:25 I am Pulanchi. No! I am Pulanchi! These posts must be in jest, for it is I who is Pulanchi. Pulanchi = Me
Anderson Williams Gallente Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.28 00:09:00 - [86] NO... my ultimate secret.. I AM Pulanchi!!! Ive lived in the pocket a few months and have been apart of a bunch of organizations all over the area. Ive dealt with both United and Neo. Ive offered intel to both parties.. Partly because I have a respect for Lark... and because for the longest time I have respected United. But you can only respect pompous ***s for so long. Lark has helped or attempted to help me multiple times..he really is a great guy. Ive lost ships to him.. popped some of his. And of all the people Ive fought around here.. he says GF first. Hes a great guy and I got nothing but respect for NSPTA. United on the other hand.. like I said.. You can try to be friendly as often as possible. Like Trying to offer intel on Dead terrorists before they **d ur ass at planet 3. And on the hag gate when THE BASTARDS put that massive camp there... Im in that pocket constantly.. tried to tell you. But I guess being as awesome as you guys are.. You dont need help and just burn bridges everywhere... but what you will find is the more bridges you burn.. the less that your allies have to come save you from your own misdoings that come back to haunt you.
Coros Spark. Ignition.	Posted - 2009.01.28 00:11:00 - [87] Originally by: Anderson Williams ... No Ignition. love?
Anderson Williams Gallente Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.28 00:28:00 - [88] I dont even know who you are. Dont take that the wrong way :)
Coros Spark. Ignition.	Posted - 2009.01.28 00:54:00 - [89] Originally by: Anderson Williams I dont even know who you are. Dont take that the wrong way :) Personal alliances ftl
fazeley Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2009.01.28 23:32:00 - [90] Man, sounds like the Neo S. lads and lasses are well out of it. Throwing your toys out of the pram because you lose a few bits and bobs helping mates is ****ing lame. Never had united down as being such temperamental little schoolgirls. There been a change there or something?
Erichk Knaar Caldari Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.29 03:23:00 - [91] Drama... In all seriousness though, NSPTA are quality opponents. Best of luck.
Anderson Williams Gallente Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.29 05:25:00 - [92] Originally by: Erichk Knaar Drama... In all seriousness though, NSPTA are quality opponents. Best of luck. Quoted for truth.
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis Mean Coalition	Posted - 2009.01.29 05:46:00 - [93] Allies are over rated anyways, shoot them up guys! *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Daplat Mode Caldari Mean Corp Mean Coalition	Posted - 2009.01.29 06:38:00 - [94] Originally by: Artemis Rose Allies are over rated anyways ORLY?
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.01.29 06:39:00 - [95] I'm bored of this thread.. You guys are boring..
Amy Mouse	Posted - 2009.01.29 07:01:00 - [96] why do you want to know who i am lol im only a bystander :) i just know a really blabberly gossiper who is very annoying at times. Thanks for being a fan of my scams!
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.29 07:16:00 - [97] Thread needs moar alt poasts tbh. The Main/Alt Ratio is getting low. Calm Your Passion
Silent Sins Deliciously Vicious	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:43:00 - [98] POASTING TO UP THE RATIO! btw larkonis, the calm your passion video is great. that is all I have to say.
50freefly Caldari Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:45:00 - [99] Originally by: Larkonis Trassler Thread needs moar alt poasts tbh. The Main/Alt Ratio is getting low. Yes sir Also NSPTA are t3h pwnz etc etc
50freefly Caldari Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.29 10:45:00 - [100] Originally by: 50freefly Originally by: Larkonis Trassler Thread needs moar alt poasts tbh. The Main/Alt Ratio is getting low. Yes sir Also NSPTA are t3h pwnz etc etc Lawl. Quotin' fail
Force Matrix	Posted - 2009.01.29 11:31:00 - [101] posting at the end of a thread that is one big bumhole licking conga line of morons parroting 'this will be dealt with'
Silent Sins Deliciously Vicious	Posted - 2009.01.29 11:35:00 - [102] waits for it
Sabrosa Namaste	Posted - 2009.01.29 12:46:00 - [103] I'm an alt, and I'm here to tell you that you suck
Captain Ohoy	Posted - 2009.01.29 13:06:00 - [104] Ohoy! May we be United in telling everyone what Negative Ten does to your mental health.. (oh the puns) 1 2 3 4 lemme hear you scream if you want sum moar!
Captain Matey	Posted - 2009.01.29 13:08:00 - [105] Edited by: Captain Matey on 29/01/2009 13:09:21 Originally by: Captain Ohoy May we be United in telling everyone what Negative Ten does to your mental health.. (oh the puns) Oh I see what you did thar! Edit:Oh and lets not be Undivided on this issue here..
Surpentis Stoner	Posted - 2009.01.29 16:26:00 - [106] Originally by: Larkonis Trassler Thread needs moar alt poasts tbh. The Main/Alt Ratio is getting low. This is being dealt with.
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.29 20:12:00 - [107] Shigsy glances around the room to the dismay of those present... the stench struck him strongly... the stench of cowards I have not much to say here insane laugh. It is clear that the trust of truth and honor among us has been broken... I feel outraged by these disgraces. As a young pod pilot i valued friendship, integrity and democracy above all. To this day these four commands are my bible... my truth... my life. When I joined the blood thirsty corperation of war, war and outnumber, outnumber and fight, fight and life... life, I was surprised to find the stench of cowards. Being new I said nothing... but my nostrils couldnt contain much longer... they were going to explode in the fury of the situation. This situation was not to be lightly sniffed at... for the stench was overpowering. I engulfed myself into it, and found it exhilirating, but many dismay to my honor, I could not trust the values i hold so dearly in my life. Stage 1 was set, friendship. Friendship above all I said to myself, myself agreed with it. I was a new pilot around these parts, new but experienced in the art of spilt blood and loss of life and spaceships. This life was my life... my life my choices... I choose wisely. Shigsy bows briefly to remember the fallen It is obvious that these moral obligations of mine were serious... and not to be taken lightly, for they were held in high regard amongst me. These friendship, were based on values of the bible... we followed the commandments with every corner we turned, every stairs we descended, every ritual we possessed. Shigsy glances around the his follow comrades in arms, and acknowledges their presence in this remarkable day... of moral fibre Unfortunatly the same could not be said for our friends, we were cheated out of, resulting in the loss of a valuable spaceship, Mallina, rest in peace. It was your sacrafice that taught us what we know today. Our true friends are ourselves. We do not need you, and we never have. Be warned, we are coming... shigsy descends into the smoke and light of darkness and chaos. The crowd gasps and inclines their heads, in honor of shigsy, the noble warrior and friend of friends, but enemy of enemies...
Nexus Kinnon Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.01.29 23:29:00 - [108] GL NSPTA, you're better off now.
Capt Lothar the united	Posted - 2009.01.30 00:38:00 - [109] Edited by: Capt Lothar on 30/01/2009 00:40:43 The only post in this entire cluster** of a thread that even begins to make any sense is Unbalance's, so I'll respond to it. I've been away from the game for the most part for the last month or so, logging on here and there, but not for any prolonged period of time. I came on a day or two after this debacle in Lamadent occurred and we spoke with the Neo's on vent. I had every intention of trying to come to a resolution. I've always respected the Neo's and had a good time flying with them. However, after taking time to think about the whole situation and what transpired, I've come to believe that either it was a setup or the Neo's were just looking for a reason to break ties. When we had our talk on vent, Lark claimed that they asked for DPS, saying they had enough carriers there but couldn't break the enemies tanks. I guess at some point he also requested we bring "all our carriers" into the engagement. We had worked well together for some time up to this point, but never have they requested we bring all our carriers into an engagement, especially one involving such large numbers of hostiles. Who wouldn't take a step back and think that was odd? The only time we've ever used caps that I can remember is in a controlled POS situation. Never has a situation like this occurred and never have they, or we for that matter, requested something like this of the other person. What doesn't make sense to me is Lark says they have carriers there but not enough DPS, the united brings 12 dps battleships and all the carriers but one are nowhere to be found. According to the Neo's they all desynced. Fair enough, that's most definitely possible in this game as everyone knows. But why didn't they warp the carriers back into the engagement when they got back into the game? I asked this and never received an answer. So I'm confused as to what you actually wanted. I was told on vent in the aftermath by Lark himself that you needed dps, that you had enough carriers there. But later hear that you wanted "all our carriers" there. As for that post by Sandwich, that was meant to be private. On our forums that were supposed to be private where people can vent frustrations and say they may regret in a day or two. No one is immune from saying something in the heat of the moment that they have regretted saying later. Obviously I can't be certain who "leaked" the post, but I have a strong feeling it wasn't anyone in the united but a certain member of the Neo's that had admin access to our forums. There's no way he wouldn't go in and read our forums after this mess occurred and there's no way he wouldn't relay that information to his corp. Granted, Sandwich is not the most diplomatic to say the least and I know he'd be the first to admit it. But the bottom line is you aren't in our corp...you aren't in an alliance with us...you do your own thing 99% of the time. Of course there will always be a slight distrust of you by our members in the backs of their minds. This is Eve remember? When I stated this very fact on vent, the Neo's acted as if they couldn't believe it. That we would have trust issues in the game of Eve, where people stab each other in the back on a daily basis. They acted as such that I honestly felt guilty for even saying it. Of course after thinking about it in the days afterward I know that I said nothing offensive, and that if you don't have a little distrust in members outside your corp then you're an idiot. In my opinion a request for our entire carrier fleet should be reserved for our own members aid or anyone in our alliance that we have similar goals with. Not friends that 99% of the time are doing there own thing, stuff that the united has no interest in or even knowledge of. How are we to know who you've **ed off in your gallivanting through space. How did we know that that POS you were attacking wasn't one you were being paid to attack as mercs. That has nothing to do with us. That's your business.
Capt Lothar the united	Posted - 2009.01.30 00:38:00 - [110] Reading this thread has thoroughly disgusted me with the Neo's and this game in general. I spoke to the Neo's the other day before reading this craptastic thread and truly thinking about all of what has transpired and I regret it. I gave them the benefit of the doubt and that was a mistake. There are things about the united that I could certainly do without, but nothing is perfect. There are people in the united that could be more diplomatic and friendly, but no one is perfect. This really is a great bunch of guys to be around, sure we have disagreements here and there but obviously that's going to happen anywhere. I'm tired of reading about how **** the united is and how dishonorable we are by people that haven't the first clue wtf they're talking about. We honor every ransom and on the few occasions where we blue people up we tell them what we expect from the get go and stick to it. I'm tired of people acting butt hurt because we didn't want to blue them up or take their intel as the word of God. We only care about ourselves. We don't like the fact that this game is one giant napfest. I can promise you when the Neo's come at us it won't be by themselves, it will be a napfest extravaganza. The united looks out for it's members like no other corp. The Neo's were outsiders by choice. I made it perfectly clear that if they were to join Negative Ten. that nothing would change as far as their leadership goes. They would be there own sovereign corp and wouldn't be taking orders from us like slaves. That's perfectly fine, and we never pressured you into joining Neg Ten. We suggested it because we liked you guys and would have liked us all to be a part of something bigger. Other than this one occasion, we've never been anything but friendly and cooperative in any way we could towards the Neo's. But i guess because Lark says GF in local to his opponents, we're the douchebags in this whole thing... What it boils down to is they're mad because of a forum post made in the heat of the moment by a person that isn't known for his diplomacy. A forum post that I'm convinced was copy pasted behind our backs by a member of the Neo's who were then so appalled at our comments of slight mistrust about them wanting us to drop our entire carrier fleet into a 40+ man hostile blob. It just doesn't sit right with me. I'll never be certain about your true intentions, but it doesn't feel right and that's all I need to know. It was fun while it lasted but everything has an end right :) Good luck to you guys, it truly was a pleasure meeting you. Irl I'm sure we'd be good friends, but when pretend internet spaceships get thrown into the equation you have to take a step back and reassess the situation. o/
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.30 00:41:00 - [111] Edited by: Shigsy on 30/01/2009 00:41:18 .
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2009.01.30 01:04:00 - [112] Originally by: Larkonis Trassler Thread needs moar alt poasts tbh. The Main/Alt Ratio is getting low. I used to be an alt, but I guess now I'm in a corp I'm a main
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2009.01.30 01:06:00 - [113] Originally by: Capt Lothar About a PhD thesis worth of words Dude just say it...don't write War and Peace: Redux about it -------------------------------------------- Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Well done for pointing that out. Well done you.
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.30 02:00:00 - [114] Epic Drama ITT... Epic wall of text inbound... Firstly my fellow C&P denizens I would like to apologise for the poor quality of the OP. I was rather drunk at the time and our reset wasn't handled terribly tactfully. It was something we had been debating for some time within the Corp, long before the Lamadent issue, this was (well, not the fight, but the aftermath) the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. However fair warning was given and we would never for a second have considered a surprise reset, being warriors of truth, valour and honour. Even when virtually paralytic and in a sociopathic mood around ten minutes warning was given before we displayed a show of force in Rancer. Reference our relationship with United: When I first formed the corp, after I was done griefing in hisec I moved back to my old home of the Aemen constellation. We initially had a few tangles with the United, we blew them up, they blew us up, we blew them up more often than they blew us up, but no matter. A peace offering was made and the arrangement was essentially we would camp one end of the pipe they would camp the other. At this time we shed ties with a couple of corps we'd made blue in the area, giving all of them 24 hours notice and making it well known to the leadership of those corps what we were doing. What it boiled down to was we would bomb the small traffic coming away from Jita and we would pick up the big stuff going to Jita and them vice versa. Any ship either party ransomed would be sent on his way blissfully unaware and picked up by the other party further down the line. We shared a vent server, had fun, times were good. Recently however there was a bit of a drop in traffic. United would bomb both gates even if we were camping, sometimes having to be quite forcably asked to move. This caused quite a bit of discontent among members. There were one or two other incidents which added to this friction. Talk was hard to stifle and being the sort of CEO who works for his corp and doesn't have his members work for him the decision was made at some time in the future consider resetting United. However there would be no surprise reset, no traps, no baiting, no hiring mercs... nothing remotely dishonourable. Reference the Lamadent fight: There appears to be a serious bugbear here. Here is a chronology from my head. We are ****ing around in Lama incapping some pos mods. We were bored. I had just recieved a brand new Nidhoggur class war vessel that day and wanted to take it for a spin. Local spikes to 60+ and due to fail scouts and distance from the gate three of our carriers are tackled (myself included). Lag is awful. Looking at what they have, what we have, realising that some of CH's cap pilots that I know the names of are there in BS and there are no hostile Cynos up I give the order for the other carriers to warp back in. I also regularly browse their KB for capital lolmails and realised that the bulk of their cap fleet was some distance away and we had only been on station for 20 minutes or so, so made my mind up that being hotdropped at this point was unlikely. At this point a 'runner' is sent up to united's vent channel to warn them off. We lose one carrier to lag unfortunately but pretty soon we get a good spider tank on the go. Unfortunately all our support gets swept up, between lag and the DPS the gang has we are unable to save our support. After a couple of relog attempts, getting fleet setup properly and getting a damnation in system we manage to stabilise our spider tank. Basically they can't break us and we can't break them, although it's only a matter of time before they run out of cap boosters and die or move some caps into position and we die.
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.30 02:01:00 - [115] I took a condor moment and hopped up to United's channel and informed them of the situation. Told them that if they came in BS they would die and that some extra carriers would be helpful. After all, if our 7 remaining carriers were able to tank this if United could bring equal or even 3 or 4 carriers we could happily take a couple of caps if they were dropped on us. We started getting a few of them in fleet and they jumped down to our channel. I was a bit dismayed when all we got were BS. Despite our best efforts they were all lost, lag was horrendous and we managed to get reps on a few of them but not enough and not soon enough. Reference the accusation of their only being one carrier on grid at the time I refer you to United's KB stats for the engagement where there are multiple carriers on every mail. It is regretable that some United members lost pods to smartbombs. The warpin they got wasn't fantastic and the pilot in question was lagged out. Hell I turned off my smartbomb and ended up on some friendly mails with it. I even smartbombed a couple of corpies to death. C'est la vie. As United turned up we started making some headway. Their help aided us clear up quicker thus minimizing our exposure. As I'd said before, it was said that if they came in BS they would have died. At no point were United supposed to act as a distraction to get our caps out. Many of them had multiple points on them and were stuck fast. As far as our carriers were concerned it was a case of one in, all in, we'd either all die or all get out, and get out we did, GF Cry Havoc, Noir. and Eternal Rapture (incl Total Mantrain). In the aftermath of this I was pulled into a chat with a United director who was not happy about being put into a 'meat grinder'. I had informed him quite well of the situation and that Carriers>Battleships. In the same situation I'd probably have dropped caps. After all, they are just another item in the toy box. Toys are meant to be played with and on occassion broken. The conversation went on for some time. I was accused of never asking for caps like that/he thought it was us on a merc contract and they didn't want to get involved, despite when being given the chance for some easy cap kills they jumped, despite us being on a merc contract. Then I was given a lecture about how I had sometimes refused to help them engage a gang that was passing through. This is fair enough. There have been some occassions where I'd declined to join in. HOWEVER whenever United had sOs'd we had always responded in full force and quickly if they were already engaged. Now I realise that the united is not Neo Spartans and Neo Spartans is not the United. But there have been several occassions where we have dropped caps to help the United out with either a current threat (earlier that day we had blind jumped two carriers in to save one of their's) or a possible threat. Regardless, the Lamadent fight is really neither here nor there. Before I recieved the leaked forum **** from a United member myself and my directors were pulled into a chat with United's directors. Basically what came to light was that they still didn't trust us after all this time working together (~9 months). Yes this is Eve, I may be a pirate but I pride myself on having some integrity and a few values. I'm English, I have a moustache and I smoke a pipe FFS. Following this things got a little bit heated. I don't like being talked to as if I'm a dog turd. I decided at that point things were going to change.
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.30 02:01:00 - [116] Reference the forum ****: It may have been made by someone in the heat of the moment (I think actual posting time is 12 hours after the incident). This does not excuse the fact that it was made by the person who is essentially second in command of the corp. Someone who is in a leadership position within the corp should not be making posts of this nature in the heat of the moment where all and sundry within the corp can read them. It erodes trust, breeds mistrust and discontent. Sorry for the wall of text guys but I had to beat Capt Lothar... tl;dr: I'm a douche.
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.01.30 02:10:00 - [117] Originally by: Larkonis Trassler Sorry for the wall of text guys but I had to beat Capt Lothar... And I believe you did! Congratulations!
UnBaLaNcE Amarr Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.30 02:46:00 - [118] Hello Capt Lother (Rev) Thank you for your recent response to this thread regarding our reset of Negative Ten/The United, Please allow me this chance to clear some things up for you, your corporation, your members and your leadership. I shall respond to your post in a series of breakdowns that will hopefully allow you and your leadership to understand clearly why this reset took place, and possibly to enlighten you to the fact that some of you may have some very serious mental health issues. Shall we begin? Good, I shall start with the basics. What? Neo Spartans only have one carrier on the field? Or do I need an eye test? As was previously explained by myself in my previous reply on the 16/01/2009 our leadership took the decision to attack and take down a neutral POS in the Lamadent system, Our reasons for doing so were simple, we had taken the time to form up a gate camp around 30-45mins before but found that traffic was extremely slow, so the call was made for all capital pilots to switch into there capitals and for the remaining members to assemble in fleet battleships. Our final count was 8 carriers of an assorted mix and around 5 battleships. For those that question the amount of capitals we had deployed I would like to refer you to the following sources 1.Those hostiles (Cry Havoc, Noir and Eternal Rapture) that were present can confirm our numbers 2.Our killboard that shows more than one carrier on multiple kill mails, amazing if we only had one 3.The killboards of those hostiles involved confirming point two 4.The Uniteds killboard confirming points 2 and 3 So Capt Lother (Rev) please explain to me and those brave Neo members that had risked multiple capital ships just were you and Sandwich get your idea that we only had one capital deployed? The fact that you was not even present when this fight took place rules you out to make any assumptions. I can only ask that you do the humanitarian thing and book an appointment with an eye specialist on behalf of your leader Sandwich. Why would they ask us to deploy capital ships? They have never asked this of us before! Not true my dear Watson, Using your powers of logic would surely remind you of the many times that you have deployed your capitals to assist in the destruction of hostile capitals that were not in a ôcontrolledö environment and also posed a calculated risk that could have turned sour at any moment. My personal opinion is that upon hearing Cry Havoc were involved you quite frankly **** yourselves and bottled it. There is no shame in this, and should you have given this as a reason at the time we would have fully understood and accepted your choice, something we did anyway and something we have always done. I am now beginning to get worried, not only would it seem some members have problems with there eyesight, but it would also seem that memory issues are starting to plague you. Neo Spartans Cannot Be Trusted Quite a strange accusation if I say so myself. Most people with any common sense would agree that Eve Online is one of the most brutal MMOÆs in existence, we can also agree that most of us play this game for these very reasons, however I would like to ask you this. If you have never trusted us 100% they why did you place so much faith in us? In 99% of joint operations you have elected one of our members to be the FC, why is this? Is this because you have noone capable of FCÆing, did you not want to take responsabilty or was it you that was looking for a way to break ties with us by hoping that one day an FC from NeoÆs leading a joint op would screw up and that you could then place all the blame onto us? May I also ask this of you, during our conversation on comms regarding the night involved you and Sandwich clearly stated that since working together we had never earned your full trust, yet at the same time you had asked, even begged for our Corp to join you alliance not only on this night,
UnBaLaNcE Amarr Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.30 02:48:00 - [119] but many times before, please explain to me why you would possibly consider inviting a Corp to join your alliance that you did not even trust. Help Our Forums Have Been Breached, Man The Bilge Pumps You have clearly stated that you believe we received our information regarding the post that Sandwich made from a source that was in NeoÆs yet you seem to have overlooked the most basic principles. You yourself have admitted just how bad Sandwich can be, and how bad he has treated people and does treat people, we all know that electing him as a diplomat is quite possibly the worst decision ever made (Apart from electing Darius Johnson to the CSM) Based on his previous actions and the way he has treated people is it any surprise that a member from your own Corp/Alliance would look at the situation and say ôWTF is going on, has our own leader once again **ed up and made a bad decision that has cost us a great friendship and should we now make it clear that the masses do not support the decision and inform our friends what the deal isö So Capt Lother, no we did not infiltrate your forums, and as mentioned it was one of your own members that leaked the forum to us. Oh noes the world is against us No I would not say that is the case Capt Lother, It is true that we have received some positive reviews in this very thread, however there is a reason for this. It is true that we are pirates, we have ed a lot of people off in our time due to what we do, but unlike you we have also earned a lot of respect, unlike you we have not burned all our bridges and we also have a lot of respect for those Corps/Alliances we have fought with, we have had our asses kicked many times and we have dished out a beating our two as well, however unlike you we are generally good sports and take the game as a game. So no Capt Lother, the whole of eve is probably not against you, however you are doing a good job yourselves to seeing that it happens. I would also like to point out that you now seem to be suffering from paranoia, on top of your other health issues I would be worried. My Respect For Capt Lother It is true Capt Lother that I have in the past had a lot of respect for you, however reading your recent post I must admit that you have now lost that respect. The constant changes in your attitude confuse me and remind me of the character Harvey Dent (Two Face) You have spoken outright in the past of your disgust at the situation you found yourself in during your time as a member of The United, you have admitted that in the same situation on the night of the engagement if you had been in charge you would have deployed your capitals to assist us because you fully trusted us and our decisions, yet the next day you change your tune, not only yesterday you came to us and asked us to give you a new home in our Corp, because you was fed up with the ** Sandwich dished out, was unhappy with your leadership and the fact that Katie Door did not have the ôBallsö to stand up to Sandwich and that if we would not employ you, you would in fact stop subbing your accounts, yet once again you have changed your tune. Multiple personality disorder is bad dude, seek help. In ending Since we first started working with The United we have always given our all, when asked for assistance we rushed to your aid in a timeframe that can only be described as extremely quick, asking for the same assistance we would suffer while your leadership cleaned the wax from your ears and stumbled into your ships. During our time as friends we watched as you failed to adapt to the current times and fielded some of the worst setups seen in eve (Yes IÆm referring to your members fitting mag stabs onto laser fitted abandons, or not understanding the stacking penalty, or wondering why you would miss a battleship kill because it speed away using an MWD while your logic was ôThey will come to usö) yet we stuck by you and defended you
UnBaLaNcE Amarr Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.30 02:49:00 - [120] Let me make it clear that the only reason you exist in Rancer is because of us, and for you to then have the cheek to accuse us of your mistakes makes me sick. End epic long post, sorry for the pain to your eyes.
Honest Nonlabor Comply Or Die Retribution.	Posted - 2009.01.30 03:57:00 - [121] Originally by: UnBaLaNcE Let me make it clear that the only reason you exist in Rancer is because of us I smell fun pew pew coming on, its boring as hell where i am now so i might just have to take a spin down there again and watch (or help) the fireworks.
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.30 04:12:00 - [122] Originally by: UnBaLaNcE Let me make it clear that the only reason you exist in Rancer is because of us, and for you to then have the cheek to accuse us of your mistakes makes me sick. End epic long post, sorry for the pain to your eyes. This post seems a bit...unwarranted to me. You, Lark, and Cpt. all three made your points. The way I see it, things weren't handled all that great by either party. The two worked great together, I was there for the "Birth" of the NAP and we had some great fleet battles at each others' side. It sucks to see it end, but from what has all happened in the past week, among previous tensions, perhaps it's for the better for both parties. Knowing both Corps I'm sure you two will have some great fleet battles. I just hope that it stays "friendly" in a sense that the smack doesn't reach r3tard levels such as name calling and petty "You suck, we're better" chest beating... So with that, I offer my respect and salute to both corporations as great pirate corps, best of the best. To each I wish the best of luck, and may the future hold nonstop pew pew! o/ KK
FALLEN XCALIBER Noir.	Posted - 2009.01.30 04:17:00 - [123] So... is this movie over already?
Miney Prospector Caldari Noob Mercs	Posted - 2009.01.30 04:33:00 - [124] Originally by: UnBaLaNcE End epic long post, sorry for the pain to your eyes. It's okay, I only read your first and last sentence anyway.
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.01.30 04:44:00 - [125] Originally by: Miney Prospector Originally by: UnBaLaNcE End epic long post, sorry for the pain to your eyes. It's okay, I only read your first and last sentence anyway. You read that much? Wow, you have more patience than me.
Paula Quartz	Posted - 2009.01.30 10:59:00 - [126] Edited by: Paula Quartz on 30/01/2009 11:09:10 Please allow me to paraphrase the events: Neo Spartans offer The United an opportunity to hurt a few high-profile entities in Eve. The United then face the classic 'fight or flight' dilemma. Despite intel, the United refuse to commit the appropriate resources. However, risking loss of face, they also refuse to stay home in Rancer. Despite intel to the contrary, The United geared up to fail in RR BS's, and throw themselves into a Meat Grinder. Get ganked hard. The United feel sorry for themselves and their mounting lossmails. Risking loss of self-esteem at their apparant failure, the United looked for someone else to blame. The Neo Spartans are the obvious culprit. Blame them! We're good! Instantly, the United felt slightly better about themselves. However, stating that Larkonis provided bad intel is not enough, the United still felt like super-fail-sauce. Becoming slightly disillusional in their sorrow, the United dream up more sinister explanations. It was all a setup. Yes, the Neo Spartans had been fighting a bloody war with mercenaries they had hired themselves, just to screw over the United. It all makes sense now. Happily realizing they are just tragic hero's victimed in a cruel Neo Spartan plot, the United took follow-up measures to raise their self-esteem. Make the Neo Spartans look bad on forums. Distance yourself from them, from the negativity. Ignorance is bliss. Neo Spartans don't like the United's new attitude, and while drunk Larkonis tells the United to go **** themselves, in surprisingly polite terms for a drunkard. Did I get that right?
Russir	Posted - 2009.01.30 11:25:00 - [127] UR R ALL FUKING DIKS UNITED N NEOS SMARTBOMB MY SHUTTLE N I MAK STATION
Coros Spark. Ignition.	Posted - 2009.01.30 14:03:00 - [128] Originally by: Russir UR R ALL FUKING DIKS UNITED N NEOS SMARTBOMB MY SHUTTLE N I MAK STATION Garmon wannabe, 0/10.
Tridik Caldari the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.01.30 14:54:00 - [129] Originally by: UnBaLaNcE Let me make it clear that the only reason you exist in Rancer is because of us, and for you to then have the cheek to accuse us of your mistakes makes me sick. End epic long post, sorry for the pain to your eyes. We were here six months before you, and we will remain here till the end of time.
Coros Spark. Ignition.	Posted - 2009.01.30 15:00:00 - [130] Edited by: Coros on 30/01/2009 15:01:15 Originally by: Tridik We were here six months before you, and we will remain here till the end of time. (Fail troll but I really wanted to say this) :D What if EVE servers close when you're camping in Crielere? Then you'll be in Crielere till the end of time :(
Forum Pron	Posted - 2009.01.30 15:42:00 - [131] Originally by: Tridik Originally by: UnBaLaNcE Let me make it clear that the only reason you exist in Rancer is because of us, and for you to then have the cheek to accuse us of your mistakes makes me sick. End epic long post, sorry for the pain to your eyes. We were here six months before you, and we will remain here till the end of time. Of course you will be. That's because The United never go anywhere else. ALL you do is gatecamp Rancer. They are Pirate Carebears grinding out a living in the most mundane way possible. I know most pirates gatecamp to make a few isk, but the interesting ones get out there and do something different too. Don't you guys get bored of sitting on that gate all the time? I know I did, and I quickly got sick of that a55h*le Sandwich ranting at his own guys. I mean get angry with your enemy by all means but don't attack your own! I can just imagine the roasting he gave the guys the stayed and fought with Neos when "they were set up" I want some excitement from my pirate life, and United didn't have it. Pilots looking for a exciting life of Piracy take note. You guys need to out out there an live a little. Go on some roams, go more than 3 jumps away from Rancer and have some fun for a change. Maybe you should be applying to join the Neos if they'll have you, at least those guys know how to have some fun. ---- Sorry for the Alt, but if by some unlikely chance United do leave Rancer, I don't want it to be when they come for me.
Torhas the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.01.30 17:26:00 - [132] Less BlahBlah, more PewPew.
Coros Spark. Ignition.	Posted - 2009.01.30 17:29:00 - [133] Originally by: Torhas Less BlahBlah, more PewPew. lol veto.
Amy Mouse	Posted - 2009.01.30 17:34:00 - [134] Originally by: Coros Originally by: Torhas Less BlahBlah, more PewPew. lol veto. veto is pretty lame, you get kicked for 1v1's and anything non-blobby
Vespa Maru Minmatar Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.30 18:23:00 - [135] This is my new most favorite thread. Me and the Twilight author are writing the screen play as we speak. Lark you are played by Brad Pitt Dreamy Sparkle!
UnBaLaNcE Amarr Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.01.30 19:05:00 - [136] Edited by: UnBaLaNcE on 30/01/2009 19:09:05 Edited by: UnBaLaNcE on 30/01/2009 19:06:20 Edited by: UnBaLaNcE on 30/01/2009 19:05:31 Originally by: Tridik Originally by: UnBaLaNcE Let me make it clear that the only reason you exist in Rancer is because of us, and for you to then have the cheek to accuse us of your mistakes makes me sick. End epic long post, sorry for the pain to your eyes. We were here six months before you, and we will remain here till the end of time. For united. Dedicated to you
KittyKatMeow	Posted - 2009.01.30 19:40:00 - [137] One curiosity. Did the fellow who managed to pod all the united members with his smartbombs offer to return any of the bounties set to the victim's heads? That would have been a strong indicator of good faith in the aftermath of the battle. If he didn't, I can easily see why the seeds of mistrust were planted.
Darklorden Evident Doom	Posted - 2009.01.30 19:57:00 - [138] Mmm, I smell victory! - - - - - -= Hunger is the perfect motivator for those who are lazy by nature =- -= It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice =-
Anderson Williams Gallente Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.31 14:59:00 - [139] Vespa.. I hate you. I was sitting in class reading the forum and read your post. I hadnt realized that you posted this here. I failed at a strong attempt not to errupt into laughter. So I hate you.. Capt Lothar... Dont take what some of us say personally. And yes you are right.. some of us.. Do remember Blue times and faithfulness and patience for idiots that just seemed not to get the terms of that blue. So yes... You are correct you guys aren't villianous scumbags that just do what they can to screw people. However... sometimes a ***y and pompous attitude puts people off. I wont mention Names... But Im a long time believer of you dont know someone until you fight them. Ive fought United a few times... Ive fought Neos alot more. I remember an infiltrated situation where Star fleet lost a cap because Neos had infiltrated a fail alliance. I remember sitting on a gate and United attempted to gank my fleet... I remember the night the pocket responded to TFS's most failed attempt to be the owners of Hagilur.... I remember the day Lark asked me in a public channel. ECM domi? WTF... and I responded with.. I know. I remember Lark coming on vent when we were showing off pics and showing us one of him.. he DOES have a mustache.. wierdo. Lmfao. I remember being camped by a forced that dwarfed my BS fleet by enough to make it a fail fight on our part... Who was willing to jump carriers in to help? Lark was. So why do I say all that crap and make you wanna harpoon your own eyes out? Because soon very soon this is going to spiral out of control... probably in around a week or two. Next powers in the pocket or people with interests in the pocket are going to be faced with a decisions.... 1. Choose a Side. 2 Do nothing. 3 Fight both. Soo the question isnt whose the bad guy.. whose the Ashole and whose got the wierder looking facial hair loadout... The question is simple.. based off past situations and interactions... who was more Honorable? Who isnt going to screw you? And who would respect and honor what ever Effort you put into a responce to a call for aide? People may get frustrated over the Napfest Eve is atm... Thats stupid. Its a tactic that borders the politics of the world we live in. It seems war maybe coming.. a large one. Some of us dont want to fight.. Some of us wont have a choice but to. So I guess the next question you ask yourself is... Am I too proud to accept the fact that alone I dont have a chance in hell or am I smart enough to realize that sometimes even the biggest bully on the playground cant fight the playground?
Nexus Kinnon Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.01.31 22:27:00 - [140] Originally by: Anderson Williams Vespa.. I hate you. I was sitting in class reading the forum and read your post. I hadnt realized that you posted this here. I failed at a strong attempt not to errupt into laughter. So I hate you.. Capt Lothar... Dont take what some of us say personally. And yes you are right.. some of us.. Do remember Blue times and faithfulness and patience for idiots that just seemed not to get the terms of that blue. So yes... You are correct you guys aren't villianous scumbags that just do what they can to screw people. However... sometimes a ***y and pompous attitude puts people off. I wont mention Names... But Im a long time believer of you dont know someone until you fight them. Ive fought United a few times... Ive fought Neos alot more. I remember an infiltrated situation where Star fleet lost a cap because Neos had infiltrated a fail alliance. I remember sitting on a gate and United attempted to gank my fleet... I remember the night the pocket responded to TFS's most failed attempt to be the owners of Hagilur.... I remember the day Lark asked me in a public channel. ECM domi? WTF... and I responded with.. I know. I remember Lark coming on vent when we were showing off pics and showing us one of him.. he DOES have a mustache.. wierdo. Lmfao. I remember being camped by a forced that dwarfed my BS fleet by enough to make it a fail fight on our part... Who was willing to jump carriers in to help? Lark was. So why do I say all that crap and make you wanna harpoon your own eyes out? Because soon very soon this is going to spiral out of control... probably in around a week or two. Next powers in the pocket or people with interests in the pocket are going to be faced with a decisions.... 1. Choose a Side. 2 Do nothing. 3 Fight both. Soo the question isnt whose the bad guy.. whose the Ashole and whose got the wierder looking facial hair loadout... The question is simple.. based off past situations and interactions... who was more Honorable? Who isnt going to screw you? And who would respect and honor what ever Effort you put into a responce to a call for aide? People may get frustrated over the Napfest Eve is atm... Thats stupid. Its a tactic that borders the politics of the world we live in. It seems war maybe coming.. a large one. Some of us dont want to fight.. Some of us wont have a choice but to. So I guess the next question you ask yourself is... Am I too proud to accept the fact that alone I dont have a chance in hell or am I smart enough to realize that sometimes even the biggest bully on the playground cant fight the playground? what the hell is this post
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.31 22:37:00 - [141] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Originally by: Anderson Williams Vespa.. I hate you. I was sitting in class reading the forum and read your post. I hadnt realized that you posted this here. I failed at a strong attempt not to errupt into laughter. So I hate you.. Capt Lothar... Dont take what some of us say personally. And yes you are right.. some of us.. Do remember Blue times and faithfulness and patience for idiots that just seemed not to get the terms of that blue. So yes... You are correct you guys aren't villianous scumbags that just do what they can to screw people. However... sometimes a ***y and pompous attitude puts people off. I wont mention Names... But Im a long time believer of you dont know someone until you fight them. Ive fought United a few times... Ive fought Neos alot more. I remember an infiltrated situation where Star fleet lost a cap because Neos had infiltrated a fail alliance. I remember sitting on a gate and United attempted to gank my fleet... I remember the night the pocket responded to TFS's most failed attempt to be the owners of Hagilur.... I remember the day Lark asked me in a public channel. ECM domi? WTF... and I responded with.. I know. I remember Lark coming on vent when we were showing off pics and showing us one of him.. he DOES have a mustache.. wierdo. Lmfao. I remember being camped by a forced that dwarfed my BS fleet by enough to make it a fail fight on our part... Who was willing to jump carriers in to help? Lark was. So why do I say all that crap and make you wanna harpoon your own eyes out? Because soon very soon this is going to spiral out of control... probably in around a week or two. Next powers in the pocket or people with interests in the pocket are going to be faced with a decisions.... 1. Choose a Side. 2 Do nothing. 3 Fight both. Soo the question isnt whose the bad guy.. whose the Ashole and whose got the wierder looking facial hair loadout... The question is simple.. based off past situations and interactions... who was more Honorable? Who isnt going to screw you? And who would respect and honor what ever Effort you put into a responce to a call for aide? People may get frustrated over the Napfest Eve is atm... Thats stupid. Its a tactic that borders the politics of the world we live in. It seems war maybe coming.. a large one. Some of us dont want to fight.. Some of us wont have a choice but to. So I guess the next question you ask yourself is... Am I too proud to accept the fact that alone I dont have a chance in hell or am I smart enough to realize that sometimes even the biggest bully on the playground cant fight the playground? what the hell is this post You're both F R E A K I N G V E R T I C A L CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
Anderson Williams Gallente Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.01 01:36:00 - [142] Originally by: Karrade Krise Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Originally by: Anderson Williams Vespa.. I hate you. I was sitting in class reading the forum and read your post. I hadnt realized that you posted this here. I failed at a strong attempt not to errupt into laughter. So I hate you.. Capt Lothar... Dont take what some of us say personally. And yes you are right.. some of us.. Do remember Blue times and faithfulness and patience for idiots that just seemed not to get the terms of that blue. So yes... You are correct you guys aren't villianous scumbags that just do what they can to screw people. However... sometimes a ***y and pompous attitude puts people off. I wont mention Names... But Im a long time believer of you dont know someone until you fight them. Ive fought United a few times... Ive fought Neos alot more. I remember an infiltrated situation where Star fleet lost a cap because Neos had infiltrated a fail alliance. I remember sitting on a gate and United attempted to gank my fleet... I remember the night the pocket responded to TFS's most failed attempt to be the owners of Hagilur.... I remember the day Lark asked me in a public channel. ECM domi? WTF... and I responded with.. I know. I remember Lark coming on vent when we were showing off pics and showing us one of him.. he DOES have a mustache.. wierdo. Lmfao. I remember being camped by a forced that dwarfed my BS fleet by enough to make it a fail fight on our part... Who was willing to jump carriers in to help? Lark was. So why do I say all that crap and make you wanna harpoon your own eyes out? Because soon very soon this is going to spiral out of control... probably in around a week or two. Next powers in the pocket or people with interests in the pocket are going to be faced with a decisions.... 1. Choose a Side. 2 Do nothing. 3 Fight both. Soo the question isnt whose the bad guy.. whose the Ashole and whose got the wierder looking facial hair loadout... The question is simple.. based off past situations and interactions... who was more Honorable? Who isnt going to screw you? And who would respect and honor what ever Effort you put into a responce to a call for aide? People may get frustrated over the Napfest Eve is atm... Thats stupid. Its a tactic that borders the politics of the world we live in. It seems war maybe coming.. a large one. Some of us dont want to fight.. Some of us wont have a choice but to. So I guess the next question you ask yourself is... Am I too proud to accept the fact that alone I dont have a chance in hell or am I smart enough to realize that sometimes even the biggest bully on the playground cant fight the playground? what the hell is this post You're both F R E A K I N G V E R T I C A L This will be dealt with... fires a spit ball
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.01 01:42:00 - [143] Originally by: Anderson Williams This will be dealt with... fires a spit ball dodges spit ball You have been dealt with. COMMENCE MANLOVE! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! This thread is now about spitting and man love.
Bud Puckett	Posted - 2009.02.01 06:16:00 - [144] Originally by: Tridik Originally by: UnBaLaNcE Let me make it clear that the only reason you exist in Rancer is because of us, and for you to then have the cheek to accuse us of your mistakes makes me sick. End epic long post, sorry for the pain to your eyes. We were here six months before you, and we will remain here till the end of time. snowy was cooler tbh
Anderson Williams Gallente Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.01 22:22:00 - [145] NO U
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.01 22:37:00 - [146] Originally by: Anderson Williams NO U I'm better at derailing than you, so NYAH! :P CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
Britannic Lord Amarr Intergalactic Syndicate	Posted - 2009.02.02 18:07:00 - [147] Originally by: Anderson Williams Vespa.. I hate you. I was sitting in class reading the forum and read your post. I hadnt realized that you posted this here. I failed at a strong attempt not to errupt into laughter. So I hate you.. Capt Lothar... Dont take what some of us say personally. And yes you are right.. some of us.. Do remember Blue times and faithfulness and patience for idiots that just seemed not to get the terms of that blue. So yes... You are correct you guys aren't villianous scumbags that just do what they can to screw people. However... sometimes a ***y and pompous attitude puts people off. I wont mention Names... But Im a long time believer of you dont know someone until you fight them. Ive fought United a few times... Ive fought Neos alot more. I remember an infiltrated situation where Star fleet lost a cap because Neos had infiltrated a fail alliance. I remember sitting on a gate and United attempted to gank my fleet... I remember the night the pocket responded to TFS's most failed attempt to be the owners of Hagilur.... I remember the day Lark asked me in a public channel. ECM domi? WTF... and I responded with.. I know. I remember Lark coming on vent when we were showing off pics and showing us one of him.. he DOES have a mustache.. wierdo. Lmfao. I remember being camped by a forced that dwarfed my BS fleet by enough to make it a fail fight on our part... Who was willing to jump carriers in to help? Lark was. So why do I say all that crap and make you wanna harpoon your own eyes out? Because soon very soon this is going to spiral out of control... probably in around a week or two. Next powers in the pocket or people with interests in the pocket are going to be faced with a decisions.... 1. Choose a Side. 2 Do nothing. 3 Fight both. Soo the question isnt whose the bad guy.. whose the Ashole and whose got the wierder looking facial hair loadout... The question is simple.. based off past situations and interactions... who was more Honorable? Who isnt going to screw you? And who would respect and honor what ever Effort you put into a responce to a call for aide? People may get frustrated over the Napfest Eve is atm... Thats stupid. Its a tactic that borders the politics of the world we live in. It seems war maybe coming.. a large one. Some of us dont want to fight.. Some of us wont have a choice but to. So I guess the next question you ask yourself is... Am I too proud to accept the fact that alone I dont have a chance in hell or am I smart enough to realize that sometimes even the biggest bully on the playground cant fight the playground? Do you have a hard-on for Lark?
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.02 18:35:00 - [148] Originally by: Britannic Lord Do you have a hard-on for Lark? \ who doesn't?
Anderson Williams Gallente Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.03 10:16:00 - [149] Originally by: Karrade Krise Originally by: Britannic Lord Do you have a hard-on for Lark? \ who doesn't? United's Leadership.
Necroth Mean Corp Mean Coalition	Posted - 2009.02.03 11:40:00 - [150] I'm on NegTen side ! and for unbalance saying bl3h own rancer because of neo's, i lol'ed a lot on this one :P
Tiskalis	Posted - 2009.02.03 13:19:00 - [151] Originally by: Necroth I'm on NegTen side ! Not surprising considering how many times Neo's have killed you.
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.02.03 14:00:00 - [152] Originally by: Tiskalis Originally by: Necroth I'm on NegTen side ! Not surprising considering how many times Neo's have killed you. Fail?
AAA ismybeeoch	Posted - 2009.02.03 16:58:00 - [153] Originally by: Tiskalis Originally by: Necroth I'm on NegTen side ! Not surprising considering how many times Neo's have killed you. Um. Necroth has 7 kills against the Neos at that link, and no losses. Learn to read a KB?
Kaya Valda Caldari Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.02.03 17:10:00 - [154] Originally by: AAA ismybeeoch Originally by: Tiskalis Originally by: Necroth I'm on NegTen side ! Not surprising considering how many times Neo's have killed you. Um. Necroth has 7 kills against the Neos at that link, and no losses. Learn to read a KB? I'd assumed it was sarcastic?
Sea Kitten	Posted - 2009.02.03 19:45:00 - [155] Originally by: Kaya Valda Originally by: AAA ismybeeoch Originally by: Tiskalis Originally by: Necroth I'm on NegTen side ! Not surprising considering how many times Neo's have killed you. Um. Necroth has 7 kills against the Neos at that link, and no losses. Learn to read a KB? I'd assumed it was sarcastic? Yeah, sure it was....
Anderson Williams Gallente Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.04 10:40:00 - [156] Wait... what?
lollerwaffle Sileo In Pacis	Posted - 2009.02.04 23:05:00 - [157] o/
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.02.05 00:08:00 - [158] this thread is like cheese. its gone mouldy, but sometimes the moldy parts are good for you? so i dunno, maybe this thread isn't like cheese afterall. who would have known
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.05 00:19:00 - [159] Originally by: Shigsy this thread is like cheese. its gone mouldy, but sometimes the moldy parts are good for you? so i dunno, maybe this thread isn't like cheese afterall. who would have known Maybe it's like Pennicillen...I suck at spelling. CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.02.05 00:25:00 - [160] I thought this thread was dead already.. can it go back to being dead? Originally by: Soporo This thread is obviously about hawt EVE sex. That is all.
Lord Acheron Incarnation of Evil	Posted - 2009.02.05 00:26:00 - [161] I only have one thing to point out WTF is up with this absolute failboating mega navy issue fit?!?: http://nspta.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=59273 "Success is commemorated; Failure merely remembered"
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.02.05 00:28:00 - [162] Photobucket + Lord Acheron = FAIL Originally by: Soporo This thread is obviously about hawt EVE sex. That is all.
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.05 00:32:00 - [163] Originally by: Lana Torrin I thought this thread was dead already.. can it go back to being dead? IT'S ALIVE!!! CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
Normin Bates	Posted - 2009.02.05 02:36:00 - [164] Was this dealt with?
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis Mean Coalition	Posted - 2009.02.05 03:45:00 - [165] Originally by: Necroth I'm on NegTen side ! Quick, somebody pick a side for me I can't chose!?!
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.02.05 04:15:00 - [166] Originally by: Artemis Rose Originally by: Necroth I'm on NegTen side ! Quick, somebody pick a side for me I can't chose!?! Come join the Trolls side. Its not the winning that count, its all the bodies you have to eat to get there.
Anderson Williams Gallente Varion Galactic Revolution Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.05 08:06:00 - [167] hits Lana with a massive Trout Shush.
Necroth Mean Corp Mean Coalition	Posted - 2009.02.05 11:19:00 - [168] most fun of this KB link comes out from comments tbh

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