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Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.26 09:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Cambarus
Mainly because the whole idea behind force recons is that they're not as good in actual combat as combat recons, but they can warp cloaked.
The falcon is dedicated to ewar. Nothing more. No combat ability at all. I.e. the Rapier is a good combat vessel (it was even better before the speed-web-nerf). |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.26 16:20:00 -
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So one nerf must lead to another nerf?
Originally by: Solid Prefekt
And all other Recons ...
Hmm...
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Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.27 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Pohbis
Why do all Gallente ships get huge dronebays?
Why are Minnie ships the fastest out there?
Why do Amarr make awesome tank/gank ships?
Why is Caldari EWAR the best?
Recognize the pattern, then we can have a sensible discussion about the Falcon, and ECM in general, 'cause only true whiners think that nerfing the Falcon will solve anything. They'll be writing nerf Blackbird/Kitsune/Scorpin/Rook threads in no time.
QFT. Finally someone with a big picture. |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.27 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: Colonel Xaven on 27/01/2009 13:22:30
Originally by: Ione Hunt
Originally by: ry ry
there is a weird correlation between people saying the falcon is fine and caldari characters.
crazy.
This.
No one wants to see "their" race nerfed in any way. Vaga pilots didn't want speed nerfed, no matter how overpowered it was. Drake pilots didn't want to see their insane passive tanks nerfed...and the list goes on. This is why you get a lot more "waaaaaaaah, bohoooo, my ship is fine" posts instead of constructive tips on how to improve the imbalance.
- Caldari characters only have Caldari skills and fly Falcons.
- Minmatar characters only have Minmatar skills and fly Vagabonds.
- Gallente characters only have Gallente skills and fly Blasterthrons.
- Amarr characters only have Amarr skills and fly Apocs.
That's why everyone want his race / ship to be totally equal to all other races / ships to make EVE even more exciting.
True story! |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.27 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ione Hunt
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Ione Hunt
Tracking disruptors are useless against missile boats, ECM isn't. 
Then do not fight missile ships in a recon fitted to fight gunnery ships ffs.
I wouldn't...but that doesn't change the fact that one form of ECM works against all ships, while the other doesn't
Umm, TP's work on every ship. Webs do, Neuts do, dampners do and so on. It's not pars pro toto, dude. |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.27 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
Edited by: ry ry on 27/01/2009 13:59:01
so basically everybody should have a falcon with them at all times, otherwise they're not doing it right?
Wrong. Every gang should keep the possibility of ewar in mind and set up accordingly!
Proud member of RZR - Decadence. |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.27 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
Originally by: Colonel Xaven
Wrong. Every gang should keep the possibility of ewar in mind and set up accordingly!
by bringing falcons.
By staying docked in your case.
Proud member of RZR - Decadence. |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.27 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Neena Valdi
Originally by: lecrotta
The ability to do that is sheer blind luck from a ship dedicated to jamming and being setup with 6
Over 50% chance to jam battleship with racial jammers. Blind luck, yeh.
Racial T2 jammers and millions of SP, yes.
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Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.27 19:47:00 -
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I have one ECCM fitted on my logistic ship and it works really well. Could work better, I'm not immune. But that's EVE... |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.29 08:42:00 -
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Huan, I know what you mean. My point is just that every race has its strengths and weaknesses. The Falcon is quite good because its has no split boni and it fills a niche completely whilst the other recons have a combat shape added, true. I love i.e. the Rapier and if I had the same possibilities to do ECM and damage with the Falcon, I'd love it. But it is not the case and so I am willing to cross-train for ships which are useful. If the Falcon "only" gets its range cutted, it will be useless because it fills a niche without any chance of surviving in the field.
The point is that a Falcon in a prepared spot owns, that for sure. In a common gang vs gang meeting it gets melted in no time. If you take away the range, nobody will fly Falcons anymore and imho that is what all the whine threads aim at to ensure the usual tank and gank manner. "Bringing in line" tends to "every race has the same". That combined with tank and gank only would be pretty boring.
The Falcon is not untouchable like the vagabond wasn't either. Just because some are not able to deal with it (and others train it on alts) does not mean to mess up a whole race, because the Falcon is the only useful ship in Caldari line which has a slight advantage.
My 2 cents. |
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Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.30 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
the falcon is a bit overpowered in certain situations
You should stop posting. And your alts too. Seriously...
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