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Venture
Caldari Ganja Unlimited CORE.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 09:57:00 -
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Ok, I have been experimenting with multiple configurations and have found a perfect one for the Drake in level 4 missions.
High Slots: 7x Heavy missile launcher II's 1x tractor beam or salvager
Middle slots 2x Large Shield Extender II's 1x Invulnerabilty Field II The remaining 3 slots fitted with passive shield resistence amplifiers II's specific to the type of damage for the mission rats.
Low Slots: 2x Shield Power Relay II's 2x Ballistic Control Syatem II's
Upgrade Hardpoints: 3x Core Defence Field Purger I's
With this setup I was able to tank the rats and did not have to warp out. My capacitor never went over 30% of capacity and my shields never took more than 60%.
Just to see how much I could take I was able to tank 10 BS's in the Isorum Hijacking Level 4 missions with ease. And completed the mission in 45 minutes with this setup.
IMO this is way better and cost efficient option than the Nighthawk.
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Foulque
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:00:00 -
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Might just be me..... but that fitting looks awfully familiar for some reason. ________
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Venture
Caldari Ganja Unlimited CORE.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:17:00 -
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I saw it on a Nighthawk but decided not to spend all that extra money for a ship and used it on the Drake instead.
This configuration gave me one extra launcher and one extra middle slot. I sacraficed the one low slot but the extra hardpoint made up for the loss. ______________________
Ganja Unlimited Missing link "Smoke everyone and be happy!" |

Gul Rashen
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.26 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Foulque Might just be me..... but that fitting looks awfully familiar for some reason.

Originally by: Venture I saw it on a Nighthawk but decided not to spend all that extra money for a ship and used it on the Drake instead.
This configuration gave me one extra launcher and one extra middle slot. I sacraficed the one low slot but the extra hardpoint made up for the loss.
Go to EVESEARCH Type in Drake+fitting Look at the 1738 similar fittings and enjoy
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Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.26 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Venture I saw it on a Nighthawk but decided not to spend all that extra money for a ship and used it on the Drake instead.
This configuration gave me one extra launcher and one extra middle slot. I sacraficed the one low slot but the extra hardpoint made up for the loss.
You also sacrificed a significant amount of DPS due to the Nighthawk's missile bonuses. |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.26 18:07:00 -
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I am getting 117extra dps out of a nighthawk, with scourge furys. oh and more tank too. and a gang link. the extra 100 mil or so is worth it 
you are mission running, and the nighthawk will most likely retain its value. and well, if losing a nighthawk is an issue to you, well stick to the drake  |

rubico1337
Caldari nefarious badgers inc
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Posted - 2009.01.26 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I am getting 117extra dps out of a nighthawk, with <b>scourge furys.</b>
FAILURE |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.26 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: rubico1337 Edited by: rubico1337 on 26/01/2009 18:16:06
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I am getting 117extra dps out of a nighthawk, with scourge furys
FAILURE
do please explain |

Terminus Vindictus
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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Venture
Also, I was able to break Rachen Mysuna; in LVL 4 Vengence mission; with ease. He gets a 1000hp shield boost every 10 seconds. My DPS with Kinetic Fury heavy missiles was hitting him for 1,351 damage each salvo.
Without having to chase him down until he turns around?!? Doubt it. Not 'with eae' by any rate. My Drake with T1 missiles hits him for 1235 damage per volley every 5.98 seconds, and still can't take him down without going close to him. He recharges a lot while I'm reloading, which is the problem. I'm guessing your firing rate with the T2's is slower than mine, so you're doing slightly less DPS than I am. If you're resorting to chasing him down, then yea it's not that difficult to take him down.
But anyway, decent setup for your Drake.
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Venture
Caldari Ganja Unlimited CORE.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 23:39:00 -
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I didn't have to chase him down, I just follow him and he kept his distance about 35km the entire time. it took about 3 minutes to take his shields down to get in to armor & hull. The problem is he continues to boost his shields the whole time. I only had to reload once for my launchers.
once I get enough ISK together I am going to get another Drake and use 3x Core Defence Field Purger II's instead and to get my heavy missile specialization to L5 to give me a 2% boost to ROF for my launchers. I already have all the base damage modifiers all to L5 so it should be on par with the Nighthawk.
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Dak Sagitarum
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Posted - 2009.01.26 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Venture
once I get enough ISK together I am going to get another Drake and use 3x Core Defence Field Purger II's instead and to get my heavy missile specialization to L5 to give me a 2% boost to ROF for my launchers. I already have all the base damage modifiers all to L5 so it should be on par with the Nighthawk.
Please... save your isk and get a nighthawk  |

Brian Kith
Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.01.27 15:50:00 -
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3 Core Defense Field Purger II: 750 million 3 Core Defense Field Purger I: 45 million
Spending an extra 700 million on rigs instead of 100 million on a superior ship: PRICELESS.
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Tesha Muron
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Posted - 2009.01.27 15:57:00 -
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Or ya know, fly a raven, and finish them mission even FASTER!
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Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.27 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Venture I already have all the base damage modifiers all to L5 so it should be on par with the Nighthawk.
Except for the fact that those same skills also benefit the nighthawk. |

Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.27 16:01:00 -
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That is a pretty standard Drake fitting... as for using purger II's if you have the money to waste why not but I would save your money a little longer buy a nighthawk and slap these purgers on there. It will give you a nice edge over your current drake. ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me. |

Esamir
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Posted - 2009.01.27 17:25:00 -
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Way outside the box 
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nether void
Caldari Shrapnel Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.27 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tesha Muron Or ya know, fly a raven, and finish them mission even FASTER!
Win.
Drake is a fun ship, and looks sexy, but it's still a T1 battlecruiser. --------------------
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pausert
Caldari AFK
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Posted - 2009.01.27 20:53:00 -
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If you can fly a Nighthawk, use it. They out perform the standard Raven on missions now due to the pathetic DPS of cruise missiles.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.27 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 27/01/2009 21:31:27
Originally by: Ralitge boyter That is a pretty standard Drake fitting... as for using purger II's if you have the money to waste why not but I would save your money a little longer buy a nighthawk and slap these purgers on there. It will give you a nice edge over your current drake.
Been there, done that 
Tbh it was more for lack of anything else to waste my vast fortune on but it allowed me a little more DPS by freeing up a low slot.
Oh and a well skilled NH pilot always did outperform a standard Raven most of the time, especially in Caldari space. It wasn't that far off the original Golem/CNR.
These days it's moved a lot closer to Golem/CNR and I suspect that if you run every mission a Caldari agent offers the NH might even be marginally better. Maybe  |

icant c
Amarr Tailored Hoodies Club
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Posted - 2009.01.28 06:22:00 -
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Originally by: Venture once I get enough ISK together I am going to get another Drake and use 3x Core Defence Field Purger II's instead and to get my heavy missile specialization to L5 to give me a 2% boost to ROF for my launchers. I already have all the base damage modifiers all to L5 so it should be on par with the Nighthawk.
While i condone the use of ganja, in this case you just fail. Use the Nighthawk you stubborn carebear and save yourself like 700 million iskies. And read a math book or something cause your logic and calculations are fail..
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GyokZoli
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.28 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: GyokZoli on 28/01/2009 10:46:02
Originally by: Venture I saw it on a Nighthawk but decided not to spend all that extra money for a ship and used it on the Drake instead.
This configuration gave me one extra launcher and one extra middle slot. I sacraficed the one low slot but the extra hardpoint made up for the loss.
Well, a drake cannot do 600 DPS but a Nighthawk can. Also a Nighthawk has higher resists. So you can guess with which ship you can finish the missions - much - faster.
Here is a good Nighthawk PvE setup, around 550 dps omnitank (which is more than enough on any level4's) and around 600 (659 with all level 5) dps damage with kinetic missiles and drones:
[Nighthawk, CS Active] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Small Tractor Beam I
Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5
This baby is zipping through the miissions faster than any Drake or Raven, or even CNR. Well I guess only torp Golem is better.
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Little Teee
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dak Sagitarum
Originally by: Venture
once I get enough ISK together I am going to get another Drake and use 3x Core Defence Field Purger II's instead and to get my heavy missile specialization to L5 to give me a 2% boost to ROF for my launchers. I already have all the base damage modifiers all to L5 so it should be on par with the Nighthawk.
Please... save your isk and get a nighthawk 
yeah but by the time i can train all the skills for the nighthawk i can amt an incredible amt of isk...
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Lady Ione
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Posted - 2009.01.31 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: GyokZoli Edited by: GyokZoli on 28/01/2009 10:46:02
Originally by: Venture I saw it on a Nighthawk but decided not to spend all that extra money for a ship and used it on the Drake instead.
This configuration gave me one extra launcher and one extra middle slot. I sacraficed the one low slot but the extra hardpoint made up for the loss.
Well, a drake cannot do 600 DPS but a Nighthawk can. Also a Nighthawk has higher resists. So you can guess with which ship you can finish the missions - much - faster.
Here is a good Nighthawk PvE setup, around 550 dps omnitank (which is more than enough on any level4's) and around 600 (659 with all level 5) dps damage with kinetic missiles and drones:
[Nighthawk, CS Active] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Small Tractor Beam I
Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5
This baby is zipping through the miissions faster than any Drake or Raven, or even CNR. Well I guess only torp Golem is better.
Well, for one thing the fourth BCS II is near worthless. I run the below:
Switch:
the fourth BCSII for a PDS II
the two pithi b boosters for an 10mn AB II and a Pithum A Medium booster
632dps omnitank 627 dps with scourge fury and hobgob II's 408m/s cap steady @ 50%
It'll be a ****in breeze for any mish + easy on the salvaging with the AB running |

Terminus Vindictus
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Posted - 2009.01.31 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ione
Well, for one thing the fourth BCS II is near worthless. I run the below:
LOL the 4th BCU is about as worthless as a 300-million ISK +5% damage implant then, because the 4th BCU adds roughly 6-7% to your damage. It's one thing to say it's affected by diminishing returns, quite another to claim it's near worthless. If you don't need the added PDU, then it's a great way to speed up missions. I guess in your case you're running around all over the mission space, so you need the PDU for your AB.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.31 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Terminus Vindictus
Originally by: Lady Ione
Well, for one thing the fourth BCS II is near worthless. I run the below:
LOL the 4th BCU is about as worthless as a 300-million ISK +5% damage implant then, because the 4th BCU adds roughly 6-7% to your damage. It's one thing to say it's affected by diminishing returns, quite another to claim it's near worthless. If you don't need the added PDU, then it's a great way to speed up missions. I guess in your case you're running around all over the mission space, so you need the PDU for your AB.
^this^. I don't think it's worth compromising a good tank just to get a 4th BCU but if you've got an excellent tank it's worth it. It's what I did when I splurged on the Purger IIs. You do notice it a bit  -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
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Lasara Dar
Caldari Praetorian BlackGuard
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Posted - 2009.02.03 03:47:00 -
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A passive Tank
High 7X Heavy missile launcher II's
Med 1x Invulnerability Field II 3x Shield Recharger II 2x Large Extender II
Low 4x Shield Power Relay II
Rigs 3x Core Defense Field Purger I
Using this setup you will almost never loose cap. I have a 117 sec shield recharge rate. I see that you focus more on damage than I do but your setup works nice because it is not an active tank. I commend you for doing so well with the drake. My greatest offense is is my greatest defense. Tank your heart out so you can rampage longer. |

Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.03 15:55:00 -
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Bleh, if it doesn't have -at least- two ballistic controls, it doesn't leave the station. |

Dark Prescott
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Posted - 2009.02.09 02:25:00 -
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would you not get more shields per second if you use 3 large extenders? i have the setup as
7 named heavy luanchers 1 siege warfare link shield harmonizing
3 large T2 extenders 2 T2 invulnerability fields 1 shield recharger
3 T2 PDU 1 T1 shield power relay
3 defence field purger
and i get 199.59 shields per second at peak recharge. take almost every mission with out dropping below 75% |
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